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applegrove

(124,109 posts)
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 01:30 AM Jan 7

8th Baby freezes to Death in Gaza, as Israeli Forces fire on World Food Programme Workers, Flour Warehouse

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8th Baby freezes to Death in Gaza, as Israeli Forces fire on World Food Programme Workers, Flour Warehouse
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8th Baby freezes to Death in Gaza, as Israeli Forces fire on World Food Programme Workers, Flour Warehouse (Original Post) applegrove Jan 7 OP
When will Netanyahu stop the attacks? brush Jan 7 #1
Once everyone in Gaza is dead Bettie Jan 7 #4
We're so complicit...continuing to supply the weapons and letting it happen. brush Jan 7 #8
When he has convinced a few countries to take in Palestinians for "humanitarian reasons" or because they have no choice. AloeVera Jan 7 #5
Another Nakba. The inhumanity is so infuriating, and the US has it's hand in it... brush Jan 7 #7
Looks like he already persuaded one country Beastly Boy Jan 8 #10
When armed terrorists quit hanging around food warehouses. Beastly Boy Jan 8 #9
BB, come on. You can do better than that. When will Netanyahu... brush Jan 8 #11
No, I cannot do better than this. And I suspect no one can. Beastly Boy Jan 8 #12
Let's just get it done finally. No more back and forth, then one side... brush Jan 8 #13
There can only be one end to the negotiations. When all hostages are home, dead or alive Beastly Boy Jan 8 #17
That insistence on the hostages being released before negotiations begin has gotten us nowhere. brush Jan 9 #18
What has gotten us here in the first place is the abduction of the hostages. Beastly Boy Jan 9 #19
Welcome to another 75 years of hostilities then. brush Jan 9 #20
If hostage taking is tolerated in any way, you are absolutely right. Beastly Boy Jan 9 #21
Freezing Temperatures and Malnourishment Will Be the Grim Reaper's Scythe in Gaza This Winter. C0RI0LANUS Jan 7 #2
Unjustified genocide uponit7771 Jan 7 #3
with malaise Jan 7 #6
When will Hamas Mountainguy Jan 8 #14
Yes. The genocide was their plan. Why else put combatants applegrove Jan 8 #15
If anything, Israel has been holding back Mountainguy Jan 8 #16

Bettie

(17,589 posts)
4. Once everyone in Gaza is dead
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 08:04 AM
Jan 7

he will stop.

If he stops before that, Jared doesn't get his real estate and he doesn't get the gas fields.

brush

(58,575 posts)
8. We're so complicit...continuing to supply the weapons and letting it happen.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 12:20 PM
Jan 7

The cruelty is unspeakable and will only get worst with our own monster about to take over.

AloeVera

(2,147 posts)
5. When he has convinced a few countries to take in Palestinians for "humanitarian reasons" or because they have no choice.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 08:08 AM
Jan 7

The convincing can be accomplished by force, threats, blackmail or "crocodile tears" ("Please help those poor Palestinians, the babies are freezing!" ).

Alternatively, and perhaps concurrently, when he has convinced enough Palestinians that their only choice is to leave or die - and thus painfully consent to their own ethnic cleansing. How's that for the ultimate sorrow and humiliation?

In the meantime, the attacks won't stop - unless world leaders find their moral backbone. So...








brush

(58,575 posts)
7. Another Nakba. The inhumanity is so infuriating, and the US has it's hand in it...
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 12:14 PM
Jan 7

by continuing the supply of weapons and letting warmonger Netanyahu carry on.

It'll get worse now as trump has already told him to "finish it."

Beastly Boy

(11,558 posts)
10. Looks like he already persuaded one country
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:49 AM
Jan 8
War and peace: Israeli physicians treating Palestinian patients

For the past three decades, we—along with other Israeli Jewish and Arab health-care professionals—have worked with Palestinian physicians residing in Gaza and the West Bank to provide clinical care for patients. To advance this cooperation, in November, 2021, the Rambam Health Care Campus, a tertiary-care, academic, governmental medical centre in Haifa in the north of Israel, launched a mission to bridge the gap between Israeli and Palestinian communities and offer services, including paediatric and adult haemato–oncological services, to Palestinian patients from both Gaza and the West Bank. To that end, we established a special coordination unit to facilitate optimal clinical and administrative management for these individuals. Severely ill patients were referred to the Rambam Health Care Campus by their local treating physicians for therapeutic modalities that were unavailable in Gaza and the West Bank. 34 paediatric patients (aged 2 months to 13 years) and 84 adults (aged 16–74 years), mainly with life-threatening diseases, such as acute leukaemia and bone marrow failure, received medical care at our institution. 15 paediatric and 48 adult patients underwent the most comprehensive medical treatments, including allogeneic stem-cell transplantation and novel immunotherapies. These intensive therapies are inherently associated with substantial adverse effects, demanding close medical monitoring in both inpatient and ambulatory settings and continuous communication with patients, caregivers, and Palestinian medical staff. To facilitate such cooperative patient management, we opened an in-hospital housing facility, fully equipped to address the multifaceted, long-term needs of these patients, matching their actual clinical and psychological status and their cultural identity. Apart from medical care, we have taken upon ourselves the task to address a broad array of other needs not otherwise covered for this population, such as food, housing, clothing, and medically necessary health care of their accompanying family members, transportation from checkpoints to the hospital and back, religious services, and free-time activities for the younger patients. Moreover, with the aim of providing autonomy in health care to the highest degree, we provided residency and fellowship-level training to Palestinian physicians in Gaza and the West Bank. Graduates maintain ties with the Rambam Health Care Campus and have gone on to be able to deliver many aspects of care close to the patients’ homes.
Following the heinous attack by Hamas terrorists on Oct 7, 2023, who brutally murdered 834 innocent civilians1 and more than 350 soldiers, and took 239 hostages2 (including babies, children, women, and older people, many of whom have complex medical conditions and require medications and care), our world has changed. Yet, despite the war, we keep providing the full range of clinical care, including medical and social support, to the Palestinian patients in Israel who are unable to return home and sometimes have little contact with their families. Importantly, even in these difficult days, patients from the West Bank continue to be referred to the Rambam Health Care Campus and are warmly accepted by the multicultural staff (ie, Jews, Muslims, Christians, and Druze) of the paediatric and adult haemato–oncological divisions. For some of the patients who can no longer travel to our centre, we are providing remote medical consultations.
Despite the murderous crimes committed by Hamas, we believe in the strength of humanity and are doing our best to render medical and support care to those in need at our doorstep and within our facility, irrespective of the patients’ religion or nationality. The same is true in multiple clinical departments at the Rambam Health Care Campus and at medical centres throughout Israel. We demand from Hamas an attitude of care towards our hostages and call for their immediate release.3 We call upon the International Committee of the Red Cross to intensify its efforts to conduct humanitarian visits to the hostages to deliver them the required medical assistance and ensure connection with their families. We expect the entire international medical community to stand with us and condemn this inhumane attack. The human spirit will prevail and good will triumph over evil, which will enable us to resume the mission of professional and human cooperation for the sake of the patients, to which end we have sworn our physician's oath.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02565-5/fulltext

As for the countries who scream the loudest about Israel's atrocities in Gaza, no such luck, apparently.

Beastly Boy

(11,558 posts)
9. When armed terrorists quit hanging around food warehouses.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:38 AM
Jan 8

The answer is as obvious as it is inescapable.

This is why Hamas apologists remain so resistant to it. It robs them of their blinders.

brush

(58,575 posts)
11. BB, come on. You can do better than that. When will Netanyahu...
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 06:43 PM
Jan 8

sit down with an honest broker nation or nations, and that does not mean the US because we are complicit, and reach an agreement to get hostages released and a ceasefire. This doesn't have to go on for another 75 years.

Beastly Boy

(11,558 posts)
12. No, I cannot do better than this. And I suspect no one can.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 07:03 PM
Jan 8

I have yet to see evidence that this is not the case.

And BTW, bringing up intentions of the bad guys is not evidence. It is speculation. It doesn't even begin to indicate absence of terrorists around food warehouses.

brush

(58,575 posts)
13. Let's just get it done finally. No more back and forth, then one side...
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 07:33 PM
Jan 8

pulls back from negotiations, then the other. We don't need another 75 years of warring — one side hits, the other hits back.

That's insane. And with insane ass trump taking over soon, and already having given Netanyahu the go-ahead to "finish it", even more inhuman crap may happen.

Beastly Boy

(11,558 posts)
17. There can only be one end to the negotiations. When all hostages are home, dead or alive
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 09:05 PM
Jan 8

Hamas knows this. They have the hostages. The sooner they release them, the sooner this back and forth will end.

brush

(58,575 posts)
18. That insistence on the hostages being released before negotiations begin has gotten us nowhere.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 12:19 PM
Jan 9

It's dumb and not backed up by history. Even Nixon and Reagan, both accused of treason and prolonging respectively, the Vietnam War, and the Iranian hostage crisis, had enough sense to engage in back-channel talks with the enemy to achieve the end of the Vietnam War (Nixon), and the Iranian hostage crisis (Reagan).

Netanyahu/Likud need to take a lesson from history and, like I said, get the fucking Gaza/West Bank war over.

It's way past time.

Beastly Boy

(11,558 posts)
19. What has gotten us here in the first place is the abduction of the hostages.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 01:06 PM
Jan 9

And insisting on the hostages being released is dumb?

If this is the case, count on me being "dumb" and detesting with a passion all those who are being "smart" for the rest of my life.

C0RI0LANUS

(2,566 posts)
2. Freezing Temperatures and Malnourishment Will Be the Grim Reaper's Scythe in Gaza This Winter.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 03:52 AM
Jan 7

A wounded Palestinian girl is treated as she lies on a bed at Kamal Adwan hospital in the northern Gaza Strip, 17 Dec 2024. (Photo: Reuters)




Slow-moving vehicles draped in bright blue flags driven by unarmed drivers like this one above transporting crates of food to a refugee camp are easily mistaken for a terrorist truck carrying bombs, WMDs, or space lasers. (Photo: WFP)

WFP Statement:

"The World Food Program (WFP) strongly condemns the horrifying incident on 5 Jan, when a clearly marked WFP convoy was shot at by Israeli forces near the Wadi Gaza checkpoint, putting the lives of our staff at tremendous risk and leaving the vehicles immobilized.

The convoy, consisting of three vehicles carrying eight staff members, came under hostile fire despite having received all of the necessary clearances from Israeli authorities. At least 16 bullets struck the vehicles.

Thankfully, no staff members were injured in this terrifying encounter.

This unacceptable event is just the latest example of the complex and dangerous working environment that WFP and other agencies are operating in today. Security conditions in Gaza must urgently improve for lifesaving humanitarian assistance to continue.

WFP urges all parties to respect international humanitarian law, protect civilian lives, and allow safe passage for humanitarian aid."



This ICC-indicted war criminal is the longest-serving PM in Israel's history, having served a total of over 17 years.

Links:

https://www.wfp.org/news/statement-shooting-wfp-convoy-gaza

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2024/12/28/gaza-babies-freezing-to-death-due-to-cold-weather-lack-of-shelter-unrwa-chief

https://www.icc-cpi.int/defendant/netanyahu

Mountainguy

(1,207 posts)
14. When will Hamas
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 08:20 PM
Jan 8

release hostages and stop using civilian infrastructure and vehicles for military purposes? When will they release their hostages and surrender in the face of an unwinnable war?

applegrove

(124,109 posts)
15. Yes. The genocide was their plan. Why else put combatants
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 08:22 PM
Jan 8

under hospitals and civilian buildings. Israelis fell into the trap.

Mountainguy

(1,207 posts)
16. If anything, Israel has been holding back
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 08:29 PM
Jan 8

They could have killed every person is Gaza 10 times over by now if that was their goal.

Beyond that, yes Hamas does was civilians in Gaza to die because it helps it in the propaganda war, as evidenced by things like this exact thread.

And no, it's not a genocide.

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