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samplegirl

(12,509 posts)
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:05 PM Jan 16

My girlfriend's husband died tonight from Covid

A three month battle trying to get well. Even survived being on a ventilator. But could not rally I am beyond words Trump's dreadful disease still lurks and kills, and I hold him liable.

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My girlfriend's husband died tonight from Covid (Original Post) samplegirl Jan 16 OP
Was he vaccinated? DURHAM D Jan 16 #1
One of my neighbors was extremely sick from Covid pneumonia. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #6
I recently tested positive for covid. DURHAM D Jan 16 #8
I had nine vaxes so far, got covid in Nov. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #9
Hope your cholesterol gets right. nt DURHAM D Jan 16 #10
Tnx. Irish_Dem Jan 17 #117
Gracious! I hope your cholesterol goes down. LoisB Jan 16 #13
Same here. Ms. Toad Jan 16 #24
Look into Novavax for your next shot IbogaProject Jan 16 #52
I'm not fond of the risk profile. Ms. Toad Jan 17 #57
Ohhh, boy. : ( Good luck! electric_blue68 Jan 17 #70
Just relaying my expierience IbogaProject Jan 17 #138
After the first one or two, I had no soreness. Ms. Toad Jan 17 #161
My work manager has that very same spike since her COVID bout. John1956PA Jan 16 #26
When did she have covid? Is she taking a statin? Irish_Dem Jan 17 #120
Glad to hear bdamomma Jan 16 #30
Yes I have all of the vaxes. Irish_Dem Jan 17 #119
Good luck! In case something my doc taught me last month might help, here are two studies on almonds and cholesterol. mahina Jan 16 #53
And organic food ananda Jan 17 #112
Thank you! Irish_Dem Jan 17 #118
Good samplegirl Jan 17 #65
Dang! Good luck on getting normal numbers again! electric_blue68 Jan 17 #68
It is up to the meds, I already have a strict diet and exercise every day. Irish_Dem Jan 17 #116
Just a note... lonely bird Jan 17 #164
Interesting, I did not know that. Irish_Dem Jan 17 #170
Yeah lonely bird Jan 17 #183
I am at 8 vaccinations LetMyPeopleVote Jan 17 #72
Same here Sundance1220 Jan 17 #113
Were we told in the stacks Jan 17 #155
It was my understanding that they hope that some day it will be like the flu shot LetMyPeopleVote Jan 17 #156
The flu shot is like this. in the stacks Jan 17 #157
Right. They came out with a newer, reformulated booster a few months ago due to the new strains. Keep up I guess? Evolve Dammit Jan 17 #194
I was miserably sick and am vaccinated AkFemDem Jan 17 #130
Some are saying those who were vaccinated are now getting sick and dying. Is that true? Anyone else heard this? Jit423 Jan 17 #61
The vaxes saved one of my friends. Irish_Dem Jan 17 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author AkFemDem Jan 17 #131
Not much info because it is a reich-wing myth promulgated by self-styled "purebloods" Bernardo de La Paz Jan 17 #132
It's the same stupid mindset as religious zealots mdbl Jan 17 #154
There are a small number who have a bad reaction to any shot. More than 8 billion doses have been given worldwide. mahina Jan 17 #133
Thanks for this thorough and scientific response nt MadameButterfly Jan 17 #180
Vaccinated people have always gotten sick and died. Mariana Jan 17 #160
Yes, the vaccine lowers your chances of severe disease and death significanrtly but is not bulletproof protection LymphocyteLover Jan 17 #176
This message was self-deleted by its author samplegirl Jan 16 #15
I'm so sorry. I cannot imagine. AllyCat Jan 16 #23
Unfortunately, covid vaccines lose much of their effectiveness against infection after 6 months. SunSeeker Jan 16 #46
My wife and I caught COVID b4 Christmas. I was due to be vaccinated, she had been vaccinated at Costco in Oct. C Moon Jan 16 #49
I'm so sorry. Scrivener7 Jan 16 #2
omg that's horrible... so very sorry... FirstLight Jan 16 #3
66 samplegirl Jan 16 #16
Oh, gosh. Much to young to die that way Iris Jan 16 #48
A friend of mine was just diagnosed with cancer. Ms. Toad Jan 16 #28
I'm sorry about your dad stollen Jan 17 #59
I'm sorry for your loss... rasputin1952 Jan 17 #66
Yeah, My sister picked the place, and it was because of her own greed, IMO FirstLight Jan 17 #86
So sorry to hear that. Awful. Some places are worse than just dying at home. If only "house calls" were still a thing. Evolve Dammit Jan 17 #195
What sad news! I am so sorry for your friend and her family. Diamond_Dog Jan 16 #4
I called her as I did to check on her samplegirl Jan 16 #17
I'm so damn sorry... Hekate Jan 16 #5
The damage Trump did and will do is incalculable. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #7
It's nonstop samplegirl Jan 16 #19
Everything Trump touches turns to shit stollen Jan 17 #60
Can you do some artwork for your friend? Irish_Dem Jan 17 #114
What a beautiful thing to suggest. Her artwork is indeed imbued with love, niyad Jan 17 #134
Yes I can feel all you describe when I look at her work. Irish_Dem Jan 17 #147
I am so sorry, samplegirl. Please convey my sympathies to your friend. I agree with you on LoisB Jan 16 #11
Ty samplegirl Jan 16 #20
Understandably. n/t rasputin1952 Jan 16 #50
I understand. LoisB Jan 17 #62
So sorry sample girl, gab13by13 Jan 16 #12
I just got a Covid booster and a flu shot yesterday. CentralMass Jan 16 #18
I am so sorry to hear this. yellow dahlia Jan 16 #14
Even more horrible when you had to listen to your neighbor, tell you, he lost his friend samplegirl Jan 16 #21
It's not trump's incompetence; it's his malevolence. LuvLoogie Jan 16 #27
He is extraordinarily competent Cirsium Jan 17 #175
I'm very sorry. My brother died of covid at the end of November. rsdsharp Jan 16 #22
I'm so sorry for your loss. Tragic illness that AllyCat Jan 16 #25
Medical facilities have almost completely stopped using transmission reduction protocols. Ms. Toad Jan 16 #32
Your girlfriend's husband? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 16 #29
Girlfriend, like: "friend who is a girl" ColinC Jan 16 #31
The term usually refers to SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #79
It has been used both ways, especially by those of a specific generation ColinC Jan 17 #122
Ok SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #123
We all knew what SG meant. And the fact the girlfriend has a husband gives it more context. Irish_Dem Jan 17 #150
I honestly was slow on the uptake ColinC Jan 17 #200
Some women refer to their female friends as girlfriends JI7 Jan 16 #33
Ok SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #84
Merriam webster: girlfriend: 1: A woman who is a friend. niyad Jan 17 #90
Never heard of it. SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #99
What part of "samplegirl" don't you understand? soldierant Jan 16 #37
So? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #74
Please delete your appallingly insensitive post, and apologize. niyad Jan 17 #78
You're free to report it SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #80
Really? Most of the rest of us understood it perfectly. niyad Jan 17 #87
Most is not all SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #88
Continuing to defend the indefensible is not helping you. niyad Jan 17 #89
With whom? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #98
English is your first language? The post seemed clear to everyone else. Judi Lynn Jan 17 #107
Thanks for the advice SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #128
I admit that I thought the same thing at first. Cowpunk Jan 17 #158
That is just bizarre to me. niyad Jan 17 #159
Same here, first thought was that his gf's ex died. Pompoy Jan 17 #166
Which I reported JonAndKatePlusABird Jan 17 #109
Well good for you SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #127
Because women have been traditionally judged and associated with their husbands and boyfrineds obamanut2012 Jan 17 #187
I would call it a cultural thing opposed to a language thing. defacto7 Jan 17 #191
Ignore them. If the post said "My friend's husband...", itwould have been much clearer. Wonder Why Jan 17 #135
Yes it would have SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #139
Yes the comment was in very bad taste and poor judgment. Irish_Dem Jan 17 #152
What in the heck obamanut2012 Jan 16 #42
Maybe SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #77
Merriam webster: girlfriend: 1 (as in FIRST definition) A WOMAN WHO IS A FRIEND. niyad Jan 17 #91
Never heard someone use SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #101
Keep trying. We need the laughs. niyad Jan 17 #103
Ok. I once shot an elephant in my pajamas SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #104
Groucho Marx. niyad Jan 17 #106
Lol. Pompoy Jan 17 #168
Guess what, I have JonAndKatePlusABird Jan 17 #110
Yes SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #126
Perhaps you are young? TBF Jan 17 #165
Thank you SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #167
That was not funny, it was mean FullySupportDems Jan 16 #43
It is not funny. There are a couple of comments that are insensitive and childish while our friend, Deuxcents Jan 17 #54
It sure would be cool if some apologies happened FullySupportDems Jan 17 #56
Considering the defensiveness and justifying of said posts, please niyad Jan 17 #97
Sadly, you are right FullySupportDems Jan 17 #190
Not meant to be funny SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #81
Keep defending the indefensible. You are not helping yourself. niyad Jan 17 #93
I don't really care SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #102
If that were true, you would not keep defending your posts. niyad Jan 17 #105
You care so little that you posted to tell us how little you care JonAndKatePlusABird Jan 17 #111
No SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #125
I'm kind of curious as to why you don't care FullySupportDems Jan 17 #140
No I was confused about the usage SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #142
You didn't answer my question FullySupportDems Jan 17 #169
I asked a question SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #177
No, it's not projection FullySupportDems Jan 17 #181
Yes it is SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #184
You asked if her friend was cheating on her dying husband FullySupportDems Jan 17 #185
Your opinion and issue SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #186
Yes I'm aware u don't care FullySupportDems Jan 17 #188
Bye. Have a nice day SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #189
I am embarrassed for you tbh obamanut2012 Jan 17 #145
Good for you SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #149
Really? n/t rasputin1952 Jan 16 #47
Your post is simply beyond the pale. Please delete, and apologize. niyad Jan 17 #75
Sorry SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #82
No, it is not. niyad Jan 17 #83
It is to me SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #85
I'm laughing... PCIntern Jan 17 #121
I know SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #124
Back in the day, women called their female friends "girlfriends." Irish_Dem Jan 17 #148
Thank you SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #151
Good grief MustLoveBeagles Jan 17 #173
As has been explained SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #178
What an Odd Initial Response to Someone Grieving. alcuno Jan 17 #198
Well I'm an odd person SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #201
Gawd how awful. yorkster Jan 16 #34
Girlfriend's husband? Would I be presumptive to ask a question. NotHardly Jan 16 #35
What the hell is wrong with you? orangecrush Jan 16 #51
A smiley face? A smiley face, in your incredibly boorish, rude post? niyad Jan 17 #94
Girlfriend meaning friend MustLoveBeagles Jan 17 #172
So sorry, samplegirl , May his memories of him be a blessing to his wife and you. debm55 Jan 16 #36
My sympathy bdamomma Jan 16 #38
Deepest condolences to you & your friend. SheltieLover Jan 16 #39
My brother checked out during the orange bastard's first tour LilElf70 Jan 16 #40
So sad. Steve was a good guy JohnnyRingo Jan 16 #41
Keith samplegirl Jan 17 #67
Oh yeah. I knew that. JohnnyRingo Jan 17 #69
So sad... rasputin1952 Jan 16 #44
I'm glad she has a nice friend like you samplegirl FullySupportDems Jan 16 #45
I lost my wife three years ago, when Covid was just starting... William Gustafson Jan 17 #55
I am so sorry. Cassidy Jan 17 #144
it has, but there are days that this whole ordeal comes creeping back... William Gustafson Jan 19 #204
I'm so sorry Samplegirl JMCKUSICK Jan 17 #58
Post removed Post removed Jan 17 #63
Aren't we pleasant. sheshe2 Jan 17 #64
JFC, you mean there was something worse than some of the appalling posts niyad Jan 17 #92
Yup. It was bad. sheshe2 Jan 17 #95
Yikes. Unfortunately, there are still a number of truly disgusting posts niyad Jan 17 #96
Post removed Post removed Jan 17 #100
What a POS that creep is mercuryblues Jan 18 #203
Condolences for her, and her family. A {hug} for you. electric_blue68 Jan 17 #71
I am sorry for your friend's loss LetMyPeopleVote Jan 17 #73
My dear SG, holding you and your friend in love and light in this horrific time. niyad Jan 17 #76
I am so sorry for your friend's loss. sheshe2 Jan 17 #108
I'm so sorry for your loss.(((hugs))) sueh Jan 17 #129
I'm so sorry samplegirl radical noodle Jan 17 #136
I'm so very sorry for your loss Quiet Em Jan 17 #137
Your girlfriend's husband Clouds Passing Jan 17 #141
Such a sad and needless loss. pandr32 Jan 17 #143
Covid was the 4th leading cause of death in the U.S. in 2024. Cassidy Jan 17 #146
My sympathies. CrispyQ Jan 17 #153
No it's not Evolve Dammit Jan 17 #192
So sorry Deep State Witch Jan 17 #162
I've had Covid 5 times Jarqui Jan 17 #163
The ones we got from the gov't were expired. I guess they have extended the dating and kits are still good? Evolve Dammit Jan 17 #193
I've heard they're probably still pretty good after the expiry date Jarqui Jan 17 #196
Yes. I'm not sure what's going on. Evolve Dammit Jan 17 #197
After reading all the the responses to this thread, I am even more afraid of what is to come. Katinfl Jan 17 #171
The Covid Pandemic probably won't return. maxsolomon Jan 17 #174
I'm so sorry samplegirl Nittersing Jan 17 #179
So sorry! It's beyond the pale the red idiots voted once again for this menace. Forgetting all about covid PortTack Jan 17 #182
I'm glad to see that a couple of vile comments were removed. love_katz Jan 17 #199
Yes, I think it's a little tamer now. People still like to start Snark. samplegirl Jan 18 #202

Irish_Dem

(63,992 posts)
6. One of my neighbors was extremely sick from Covid pneumonia.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:19 PM
Jan 16

Last November. Was heading for a bad ending.
But she rallied and pulled through.

She was vaccinated.

DURHAM D

(32,878 posts)
8. I recently tested positive for covid.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:27 PM
Jan 16

I had no symptoms at all / ever. The only reason I took a covid test was because i had some about to expire and I had a dental appointment coming up. After I tested positive I went to a walk-in clinic and was tested again and given Paxlovid.
Never had any symptoms.
I believe I had 8 shots all together for covid.

Irish_Dem

(63,992 posts)
9. I had nine vaxes so far, got covid in Nov.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:33 PM
Jan 16

Was quite sick, took the Paxlovid, got Covid Rebound and was sicker than with the original covid.
Took two months to get back to 100% feeling better.

But just found out today I have some long Covid problems.
I have always had normal cholesterol and inexplicably shot to a very high number in
recent blood work.

I exercise every day, eat mainly protein and fruits/veggies.
Do not smoke or drink.
And I am low to normal weight.

I did some online research and found out that this is a symptom of long covid.
So now I am on a meds to bring the cholesterol down.
Other than that I feel fine now.

Ms. Toad

(35,923 posts)
24. Same here.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:00 PM
Jan 16

9 vaccinations.

I've had COVID twice - long COVID after the first one. Most of the identified problems have resolved. The one continuing problems - blood glucose is higher and less predictable. I used to be able to control it very precisely with diet - now it is all over the place.

Pretty sure I've been exposed at least twice this week. On Monday I was told one of my professors had COVID so I shouldn't expect to see him this week . . . but I've seen him twice. I'm still masking virtually all the time, so I'm relatively safe. But I hope we aren't starting a little wave through the school.

And - I am expecting to be told I shouldn't continue to vaccinate (I get a month of severe headaches after each vaccination - the last one sent me to the ER).

IbogaProject

(4,062 posts)
52. Look into Novavax for your next shot
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:55 PM
Jan 16

Way milder as in no soreness and no after effects and I feel the coverage has been sustained for a longer period.

Ms. Toad

(35,923 posts)
57. I'm not fond of the risk profile.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:20 AM
Jan 17

It contains added adjuvants - and I already have a wack-a-doodle immune system. Both autoimmune disorders and immune deficiencies. Currently, I react very strongly to vaccines (not just COVID). I've run a 103 temp for several hours after the last several I've gotten. I've fount mixed reviews about the comparative heart risk between the two types of vaccine - but that is an issue because I've had a lifelong heart murmur and am at risk for cardiovascular disease. (I know the risk is higher from COVID than from the vaccine - which is part of why I've had 9 vaccinations already. But the issue here is whether I can continue to live with spending two months a year largely in bed with my blankets over my head - in between running to worship the porcelain throne.)

IbogaProject

(4,062 posts)
138. Just relaying my expierience
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:08 AM
Jan 17

I got really sore from the Pfizer. I still take them as even if I wasnt too at risk I want to reduce any spreading I could do.

Ms. Toad

(35,923 posts)
161. After the first one or two, I had no soreness.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:31 AM
Jan 17

Just the intense fever and month of severe headaches.

John1956PA

(3,710 posts)
26. My work manager has that very same spike since her COVID bout.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:03 PM
Jan 16

She exercises, keeps her weight down, and is otherwise healthy. Her labs were always right on the money before COVID. After she recovered from COVID, she found that her cholesterol readings were elevated. They still have not yet returned to normal.

Irish_Dem

(63,992 posts)
120. When did she have covid? Is she taking a statin?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:50 AM
Jan 17

Some research is saying the spike might only last a year.

bdamomma

(67,358 posts)
30. Glad to hear
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:09 PM
Jan 16

you're feeling better. Keep up doing what you're doing to stay well. Yes, Covid is still out there lurking. But those vaccines help. The Shingles vaccine is another preventative one to get.

mahina

(19,412 posts)
53. Good luck! In case something my doc taught me last month might help, here are two studies on almonds and cholesterol.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:57 PM
Jan 16
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21457263/
Effects of almond consumption on the reduction of LDL-cholesterol: a discussion of potential mechanisms and future research directions


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26269239/
Dietary Almonds Increase Serum HDL Cholesterol in Coronary Artery Disease Patients in a Randomized Controlled Trial

ananda

(31,222 posts)
112. And organic food
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:57 AM
Jan 17

After that article on the effect of glyphosates, I went
all organic.

I have never had Covid even after I know I was exposed.

Irish_Dem

(63,992 posts)
116. It is up to the meds, I already have a strict diet and exercise every day.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:33 AM
Jan 17

I weigh 117 and only fluctuate up one pound to 118.
Eat salads, fruit and lean meat.

I did splurge on croissants 6 months on vacation but my blood work was fine after the trip.
It only spiked after covid.

lonely bird

(2,091 posts)
164. Just a note...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:52 AM
Jan 17

If someone has clotting issues like I do (factor 5 Leiden and PGM 2) Paxlovid is not a good choice. According to my PCP Paxlovid can cause bleeding issues.

Irish_Dem

(63,992 posts)
170. Interesting, I did not know that.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:07 PM
Jan 17

I don't have clotting issues.
But Paxlovid might be connected to long covid symptoms.
I don't think they know yet.

lonely bird

(2,091 posts)
183. Yeah
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:44 PM
Jan 17

I got CoVid at Christmas and asked my PCP about Paxlovid and that was when he told me that it wasn’t good for me.

 

Sundance1220

(285 posts)
113. Same here
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:12 AM
Jan 17

Vaccines up to date and have never had covid. My whole family is vaccinated but I'm the only one who has never had it. None had serious cases and even my 84 year old mother sailed through with minor symptoms. We're very fortunate.

 

in the stacks

(14 posts)
155. Were we told
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:53 AM
Jan 17

it would be like a flu shot? I don't recall having that impression. As a matter of course, I remember after the first shot, the second shot (think it was referred to as a "booster" ) was recommended very soon afterwards. Some people balked at that because it didn't make sense to them. But then it just settled into more and more shot because the flu virus morphs.

LetMyPeopleVote

(158,250 posts)
156. It was my understanding that they hope that some day it will be like the flu shot
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:55 AM
Jan 17

Right now, they are dealing with a still mutating virus and so more shots are needed

 

in the stacks

(14 posts)
157. The flu shot is like this.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:59 AM
Jan 17

You get vaccinated for one strain of virus 🦠 but since it morphs it has a poor efficacy rate. In other words, getting the flu shot doesn't prevent a person from getting the flu during flu season. And what bugs me since the Covid jabs were rolled out is that the past few summers we've had flu epidemics long before fall! 🥴

Evolve Dammit

(20,042 posts)
194. Right. They came out with a newer, reformulated booster a few months ago due to the new strains. Keep up I guess?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:41 PM
Jan 17

AkFemDem

(2,424 posts)
130. I was miserably sick and am vaccinated
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:52 AM
Jan 17

I also took Paxlovid. Vaccinated people can get very sick, and yes some die from Covid.

Jit423

(916 posts)
61. Some are saying those who were vaccinated are now getting sick and dying. Is that true? Anyone else heard this?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:44 AM
Jan 17

Trying to find out but not much info on that.

Irish_Dem

(63,992 posts)
115. The vaxes saved one of my friends.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:30 AM
Jan 17

She is 82, not in great health, and was very ill with covid pneumonia but rallied and pulled through.
We all think it was the vaccine that saved her.

If she had not been vaxxed we think she would have died.

The research is showing that the vaccines saves lives.

Response to Jit423 (Reply #61)

Bernardo de La Paz

(52,619 posts)
132. Not much info because it is a reich-wing myth promulgated by self-styled "purebloods"
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:18 AM
Jan 17

When the mRNA vaccines came out, the nitwits claimed people would be dying in droves in six months.

When six month passed, the nuts continued in two ways: a claim that massive deaths were being covered up, but showed up in statistics, and separately that the mass die-off would be in full swing after 3 years. When you look at their statistics, it is not hard to see how they misinterpret them.

It's more than three years now.

Don't waste your time with unscientific nonsense.

mdbl

(5,662 posts)
154. It's the same stupid mindset as religious zealots
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:51 AM
Jan 17

They make all these dumb predictions that never come true then make stupid rationalizations as an excuse for their stupidity.

mahina

(19,412 posts)
133. There are a small number who have a bad reaction to any shot. More than 8 billion doses have been given worldwide.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:46 AM
Jan 17

55 have died from side effects of the shot. 8 billion, 8,000,000,000. Eight thousand millions. For perspective, 1.8411 billion is the entire population of China. The entire world population is 8.025 billion. If it killed people, a *lot* of people would have died of it.

I've had friends who are firmly convinced that the shot causes death because they are being told so by people on Fox or on social media who do not have this country's interests at heart- the opposite. I will never understand why anyone would sell our people that idea. It makes me so sad that so many have lost their lives or have long term health problems because they didn't take the shot. Thank you for asking this question. It's 3 am here and I need to get some sleep before work but here is one study that may be useful.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8875435/
Death after the Administration of COVID-19 Vaccines Approved by EMA: Has a Causal Relationship Been Demonstrated?Abstract
More than eight billion doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered globally so far and 44.29% of people are fully vaccinated. Pre-authorization clinical trials were carried out and the safety of vaccines is still continuously monitored through post-commercialization surveillance. However, some people are afraid of vaccine side effects, claiming they could lead to death, and hesitate to get vaccinated. Herein, a literature review of COVID-19-vaccine-related deaths has been carried out according to the PRISMA standards to understand if there is a causal relationship between vaccination and death and to highlight the real extent of such events. There have been 55 cases of death after COVID-19 vaccination reported and a causal relationship has been excluded in 17 cases. In the remaining cases, the causal link between the vaccine and the death was not specified (8) or considered possible (15), probable (1), or very probable/demonstrated (14). The causes of deaths among these cases were: vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia (VITT) (32), myocarditis (3), ADEM (1), myocardial infarction (1), and rhabdomyolysis (1). In such cases, the demonstration of a causal relationship is not obvious, and more studies, especially with post-mortem investigations, are needed to deepen understanding of the possible pathophysiological mechanisms of fatal vaccine side effects. In any event, given the scarcity of fatal cases, the benefits of vaccination outweigh the risks and the scientific community needs to be cohesive in asserting that vaccination is fundamental to containing the spread of SARS-CoV-2.

https://omh.ny.gov/omhweb/covid-19-resources/vax-infographic-letter.pdf

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10880230/
I am sure there are better videos but I don't have time to search for them right now, though I hope you do.

?si=EJcbKoCxytJIXIx8

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-vaccines-infographic

“I have nothing against RFK Jr. from a human perspective, he should probably be an environmental leader, that's the kind of thing he's trained for — but under no circumstance should he be a health secretary. So his health secretary position, or the potential position, will doom us to outbreaks for our kids.”

~ Gov. Josh Green on President-elect Donald Trump’s pick to lead the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
Read and listen to this story

hope this helps. good night!


Mariana

(15,329 posts)
160. Vaccinated people have always gotten sick and died.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:26 AM
Jan 17

It's much less likely if they're vaccinated, but it does happen.

LymphocyteLover

(7,324 posts)
176. Yes, the vaccine lowers your chances of severe disease and death significanrtly but is not bulletproof protection
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:08 PM
Jan 17

Response to DURHAM D (Reply #1)

AllyCat

(17,497 posts)
23. I'm so sorry. I cannot imagine.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:00 PM
Jan 16

All our medicine still doesn’t save some of our friends. My heart goes out to you all.

C Moon

(12,713 posts)
49. My wife and I caught COVID b4 Christmas. I was due to be vaccinated, she had been vaccinated at Costco in Oct.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:52 PM
Jan 16

Neither got a fever, but I was completely drained on day 1. She had a horrid sore throat. We both had coughs that persisted for 4 weeks.

I'm going to get another vax, regardless.

FirstLight

(14,537 posts)
3. omg that's horrible... so very sorry...
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:11 PM
Jan 16

If I may ask, how old was he?

My Dad died from Covid complications in 2023. He had recovered from the disease but within a week, his gallbladder literally died (coagualtion issues most likelly) and though they were pumping him full of antibiotics to bring down the swelling for an othroscopy, he went septic within 24 hours. He went within 4-5 days...

I still bllame the fucking Care Facility for not following protocol when they KNEW they had Covid in there. He collapsed outside on the patio and they "lost" him for 30 mns before calling for EMT's when he had the disease... if they had been more careful, maybe he wouldn't have suffered. But then again, memory care IS truly suffering...long and drawn out disaster

Ms. Toad

(35,923 posts)
28. A friend of mine was just diagnosed with cancer.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:06 PM
Jan 16

He was hospitalized, getting him stable, and was exposed to COVID while in the hospital. He went in yesterday to get a port for chemo - and tested positive for COVID diagnosed with pneumonia and readmitted. The port will have to wait for another day.

I speculated to him that most of his care team probably wasn't masking up, even though he has COVID that he caught while hospitalized the first time. He said it's about 50-50.

So irresponsible.

rasputin1952

(83,480 posts)
66. I'm sorry for your loss...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:37 AM
Jan 17

The staff is overworked and thin in most of these facilities.

While those in direct contact with individuals who need care are dedicated to those under their care, it is the "upper caste" who do everything they can to cut costs. Those who need care suffer, usually in silence.

Most states could care less and do little to ensure proper care. I worked for a few after I got out of the Army (I was a Medical Plt Sgt) and had no problem calling the "powers that be" at the state level. There are some companies that own virtually all of the Care Facilities in a state. It came down to "if you save a dollar, do it."



FirstLight

(14,537 posts)
86. Yeah, My sister picked the place, and it was because of her own greed, IMO
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:23 AM
Jan 17

She didn't want dad's prolonged care to eat up our inheritance... The place had billing and management issues from the get-go. And the staff was lazy at best, not even really overworked, just didn't care enough to make the effort.

I hated visiting him there and the food they served was a fucking joke. We tried to get them to give h8im better options, even went out of our way to buy/provide things he liked because they "said" they would give it to him. The staff put it in their refrigerator instead and they disappeard ...

I'm glad he's crossed over, he didn't deserve that at all. His last year after Mom passed was hell for him, and even with dementia, he was aware enough to know he wasn't home or in a "normal" place...

Evolve Dammit

(20,042 posts)
195. So sorry to hear that. Awful. Some places are worse than just dying at home. If only "house calls" were still a thing.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:49 PM
Jan 17

samplegirl

(12,509 posts)
17. I called her as I did to check on her
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:49 PM
Jan 16

And he went back to the hospital the day before.
He was at nursinghome for rehab.
I've had enough.

Irish_Dem

(63,992 posts)
114. Can you do some artwork for your friend?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:26 AM
Jan 17

Your artwork is imbued with love, it shows in every brush stroke.

niyad

(122,101 posts)
134. What a beautiful thing to suggest. Her artwork is indeed imbued with love,
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 09:35 AM
Jan 17

and light, and joy.

Irish_Dem

(63,992 posts)
147. Yes I can feel all you describe when I look at her work.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:26 AM
Jan 17

I thought perhaps I was the only one who noticed it.
Love, light, joy.
The emotional component of samplegirl's art is palpable.

Samplegirl reported I think sending some of her art work to another friend experiencing a loss.
I hope she does as well with this current friend.
I know it would be healing for the friend.

LoisB

(9,446 posts)
11. I am so sorry, samplegirl. Please convey my sympathies to your friend. I agree with you on
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:39 PM
Jan 16

where the blame lies. So many needless deaths.

gab13by13

(26,443 posts)
12. So sorry sample girl,
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:40 PM
Jan 16

I had Covid shots about 8 months ago, I didn't realize there are any more to get. I got the Pfizer shot.

I had something 2 months ago, I think it was that stomach virus. I had chills for 2 months but finally got over it.

The new administration will make it hard to get vaccinated I'm afraid.

yellow dahlia

(1,402 posts)
14. I am so sorry to hear this.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:44 PM
Jan 16

You and your friend have my condolences.

Covid is such a "crap shoot". Some skate by with sniffles, while others can't rally against it. I have a good friend with Long Covid which has changed his otherwise healthy life.

I concur with you assessment that this is the fault of The Felonious Grifter.

I feel like we live with a collective angst as a result of his incompetence. I have more I could say, but will save it for now.

Again - please relay my condolences to your friend.

samplegirl

(12,509 posts)
21. Even more horrible when you had to listen to your neighbor, tell you, he lost his friend
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:52 PM
Jan 16

Because of a virus from China!

LuvLoogie

(7,775 posts)
27. It's not trump's incompetence; it's his malevolence.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:04 PM
Jan 16

This country is succumbing to greed that is aided and abetted by racist-addled stupidity. Civil society allowed trump to gain the highest office twice. The powers that be smell blood. Their victory is at hand.

rsdsharp

(10,473 posts)
22. I'm very sorry. My brother died of covid at the end of November.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:54 PM
Jan 16

He caught it in a skilled nursing facility.

Ms. Toad

(35,923 posts)
32. Medical facilities have almost completely stopped using transmission reduction protocols.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:09 PM
Jan 16

A friend recently diagnosed with cancer caught COVID while hospitalized. Is hospitalized again because it is now COVID pneumonia (delaying his cancer care). And still - the very facility that gave him COVID, and knows he is positive now, is largely not masking around him.

SocialDemocrat61

(3,493 posts)
29. Your girlfriend's husband?
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:06 PM
Jan 16

So she was cheating on her husband with you while he was sick with covid?

SocialDemocrat61

(3,493 posts)
79. The term usually refers to
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:17 AM
Jan 17

“ frequent or regular female companion in a romantic or sexual relationship”.

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
122. It has been used both ways, especially by those of a specific generation
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:21 AM
Jan 17

Women have often called their friends "girlfriends." One of the clues as to how normal this usage is would be the responses in the thread.

Irish_Dem

(63,992 posts)
150. We all knew what SG meant. And the fact the girlfriend has a husband gives it more context.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:29 AM
Jan 17

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
200. I honestly was slow on the uptake
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:13 PM
Jan 17

There has been a running meme/ joke on the internet over the last couple years that went along the lines of "my wife's boyfriend is.. (insert random event here)" or "my husband's girlfriend is...blah blah blah"

At first glance I thought that's what this was until I spent five 5 seconds seeing the comments and seeing that the person posting is a woman. It didn't take long to know what she meant, and that it isn't a joke or funny.

My heart goes out to her and her friend.

niyad

(122,101 posts)
90. Merriam webster: girlfriend: 1: A woman who is a friend.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:35 AM
Jan 17

"Girlfriends" multiple season tv sitcom

SocialDemocrat61

(3,493 posts)
98. With whom?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:08 AM
Jan 17

I asked a question because I found the op confusing. Sorry if questions offend you.

Judi Lynn

(162,942 posts)
107. English is your first language? The post seemed clear to everyone else.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:30 AM
Jan 17

If you seek clarification, try to be respectful and serious asking for help understanding.

Cowpunk

(817 posts)
158. I admit that I thought the same thing at first.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:01 AM
Jan 17

I know that a female friend is often called a girlfriend, but my male brain took a while to get there.

Pompoy

(162 posts)
166. Same here, first thought was that his gf's ex died.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:09 PM
Jan 17

As you say, male brain? But was quick to realize my mistake.

109. Which I reported
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:25 AM
Jan 17

Sorry if English isn’t your first language, but, colloquially, my entire life (36yo) I’ve heard my female friends refer to their female friends as “girlfriends”.

Here’s the kicker: I (and every other guy) don’t call my guy friends “boyfriends”.

English is weird like that.

obamanut2012

(28,246 posts)
187. Because women have been traditionally judged and associated with their husbands and boyfrineds
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:44 PM
Jan 17

And men not their wives and girlfriends.

It is rooted in misogyny, like most things, but many women now embrace it as he opposite.

defacto7

(13,799 posts)
191. I would call it a cultural thing opposed to a language thing.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:08 PM
Jan 17

Why shouldn't a guy call his male friends their boyfriend or a manfriend? Logically, there's no linguistic reason ... except our culture says, "don't do it."

Wonder Why

(4,969 posts)
135. Ignore them. If the post said "My friend's husband...", itwould have been much clearer.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 09:58 AM
Jan 17

I misunderstood too but by the time I read it, there were a lot more posts so I didn't question it. Some people will attack if you don't get something right away. Not uncommon on this site.

SocialDemocrat61

(3,493 posts)
139. Yes it would have
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:09 AM
Jan 17

But in this day and age there are many different kinds of relationships out there.

Irish_Dem

(63,992 posts)
152. Yes the comment was in very bad taste and poor judgment.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:30 AM
Jan 17

To accuse sample girl of having an affair with a woman who just lost her husband.
And sample girl is grieving the loss as well.

SMH

obamanut2012

(28,246 posts)
42. What in the heck
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:31 PM
Jan 16

Is this really the time? And it is obviously she means her friend, but let's say it's more: thruples exist.

SocialDemocrat61

(3,493 posts)
77. Maybe
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:16 AM
Jan 17

But saying girlfriend which is typical defined as “frequent or regular female companion in a romantic or sexual relationship” vs friend is confusing.

TBF

(35,010 posts)
165. Perhaps you are young?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:08 PM
Jan 17

I am in my 50's and growing up all of our female friends were referred to as our girlfriends. Now I think it may refer more to "girlfriend" as a romantic/sexual partner, no matter gender. But at the time, many decades ago, it was more generic.

Deuxcents

(20,945 posts)
54. It is not funny. There are a couple of comments that are insensitive and childish while our friend,
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:04 AM
Jan 17

Samplegirl is in distress. 🌺

niyad

(122,101 posts)
97. Considering the defensiveness and justifying of said posts, please
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:03 AM
Jan 17

don't hold your breath waiting for apologies. I had to double-check, make sure I was still reading DU, and had not been accidentally switched to another site.

111. You care so little that you posted to tell us how little you care
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:48 AM
Jan 17

Since it’s NBD, hopefully you’ll see EVERY SINGLE REPLY to your posts and realize the term “girlfriend” is hilariously innocuous.

The best part is if you continue defending your stance of “girlfriend = romantic partner”, after all of us straight up telling you that that is not necessarily the case, every word you type is wasted. You have a biiiiiiiiiig uphill mountain to climb to convince me you’re not being disingenuous.

FullySupportDems

(276 posts)
140. I'm kind of curious as to why you don't care
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:10 AM
Jan 17

If others think what you asked seemed out of place and rude, you don't care? I don't get that. This thread was about a very sad loss and you appeared to be joking at the use of the word girlfriend.

FullySupportDems

(276 posts)
169. You didn't answer my question
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:49 PM
Jan 17

I know you asked a question. I asked why you don't care. When your question included asking if her friend had been cheating on her dying husband, it went beyond merely being a question about their relationship. Don't you think that was a hurtful implication?

Kicking people when they're down? Have you ever heard of that?

FullySupportDems

(276 posts)
181. No, it's not projection
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:13 PM
Jan 17

By me or anyone else here confronting you about it. You asked a shitty question that had nothing to do with the grief being expressed about somebody dying. I'm sure you know what grief means.

You ought to feel badly about it. It's your issue you think it's no big deal.

FullySupportDems

(276 posts)
185. You asked if her friend was cheating on her dying husband
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:33 PM
Jan 17

You shouldn't have asked a question like that and you aren't adult enough to even admit it. People tell you you are being mean and you don't care? Yeah, I got nothing. It's all name calling from here.

FullySupportDems

(276 posts)
188. Yes I'm aware u don't care
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:46 PM
Jan 17

It's such an evolved philosophy really. Just don't give a shit. Here I am giving it a go. Bye.

SocialDemocrat61

(3,493 posts)
85. It is to me
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:22 AM
Jan 17

The term girlfriend usually means “ frequent or regular female companion in a romantic or sexual relationship”.

PCIntern

(27,173 posts)
121. I'm laughing...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:08 AM
Jan 17

Last edited Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:38 AM - Edit history (1)

I had the exact same thought when I saw the title…

But I apologize: my condolences. Awful stuff

Irish_Dem

(63,992 posts)
148. Back in the day, women called their female friends "girlfriends."
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:28 AM
Jan 17

Perhaps you are young and didn't realize that fact.

alcuno

(8,083 posts)
198. What an Odd Initial Response to Someone Grieving.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:34 PM
Jan 17

Doesn't matter who they are. Accusing someone of "cheating" through the use of a question? And to keep it going after multiple people called you on it. Odd.

yorkster

(2,714 posts)
34. Gawd how awful.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:16 PM
Jan 16

And goddamn Trump. I have had a couple of mild run-ins with maskholes. I know I may let loose if it happens again. Very distressing to hear this. So sorry about your friend's husband and so worried for all of us.

NotHardly

(1,618 posts)
35. Girlfriend's husband? Would I be presumptive to ask a question.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:16 PM
Jan 16

No harm, no foul in either instance.

niyad

(122,101 posts)
94. A smiley face? A smiley face, in your incredibly boorish, rude post?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:48 AM
Jan 17

This is not freeperville, or x or meta.

LilElf70

(711 posts)
40. My brother checked out during the orange bastard's first tour
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:19 PM
Jan 16

I blame him 100%. I'll never forget how he downplayed the entire situation. Let's do some bleach. No need to wear a mask. And so on, and so forth.

JohnnyRingo

(19,654 posts)
69. Oh yeah. I knew that.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:54 AM
Jan 17

I don't know where Steve came from. Glad I didn't write that on the card.

rasputin1952

(83,480 posts)
44. So sad...
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:41 PM
Jan 16

Grief is one emotion that is hard to overcome.

My heart goes out to all who have lost a loved one regardless of the initiating circumstances.



William Gustafson

(416 posts)
55. I lost my wife three years ago, when Covid was just starting...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:08 AM
Jan 17

... She had been battling a brain tumor for more than 15 years. We did two surgeries', Kemo, and Radiation, and every time we thought they finally got it all, it would come back. Her last hope was to try Gene Therapy.... All was going well, until she got a blood clot in the brain, and had a stroke.... (side effect of the medicine from the Gene Therapy)
She went into emergency, and they were not able to remove all of the clot, due to them piercing her blood vessel with the tool they remove clots with... thankfully, she didn't bleed long, but they couldn't get all of it out....
About that time, Covid was ramping up... They closed the hospital to all visitors...
The last time I seen her in the hospital, she was being transferred to a Therapy wing. After 2 1/2 months of not seeing her, because of the Covid restrictions, they realized she would not recover from her stroke, so they sent her home...
I was her soul caregiver all the way to the end. She was bedridden, up to the day she passed.... On February 14, she passed away.
Because of Covid, I was not able to help her in her therapy, visit her, or even just hold her while she was in the hospitals.
I have learned to accept things out of my control, but I know that she is no longer suffering. Life is pretty lonely at times, but I know that we will be together again, someday.
Give your friend a hug, and let her know that in time, the pain will subside, she will find things that make her happy, it just takes time. The loss can never go away, but if we hold them in our hearts and minds, this is how we honor them...

Cassidy

(218 posts)
144. I am so sorry.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:20 AM
Jan 17

I hope that the pain continues to subside and you will have the good memories in its place.

William Gustafson

(416 posts)
204. it has, but there are days that this whole ordeal comes creeping back...
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 09:21 PM
Jan 19

I know that I did everything I could to try and keep her alive, but in the end, God had different plans for her...

When Covid was ramped, and all the hospitals closed their door to visitors, that was the worse time.... not knowing what she was going through, how they were treating her and her being alone in all of this... it was heart wrenching to watch...

Sadly, I was not alone in this, as many families that lost their loved ones to Covid, were in the same boat as me...
It's nothing I would wish on my worst enemy, then to go through that again...

and thank you for your thoughts... I appreciate it...

JMCKUSICK

(971 posts)
58. I'm so sorry Samplegirl
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:25 AM
Jan 17

Covid will forever be known as the time where the genius of science was met by the ignorance of social media users creating one of the greatest self owns in human history.

Response to samplegirl (Original post)

sheshe2

(89,643 posts)
95. Yup. It was bad.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:48 AM
Jan 17

I am glad you did not see it and I am hoping samplegirl did not see it either.

Hugs.

niyad

(122,101 posts)
96. Yikes. Unfortunately, there are still a number of truly disgusting posts
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:57 AM
Jan 17

that are still here. I am stunned.

Response to sheshe2 (Reply #64)

mercuryblues

(15,426 posts)
203. What a POS that creep is
Sat Jan 18, 2025, 02:15 PM
Jan 18

The only way I would invite him to a party is if we can play pin the tail on the donkey. With him being the donkey.

niyad

(122,101 posts)
76. My dear SG, holding you and your friend in love and light in this horrific time.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:15 AM
Jan 17

Is there anything we can do for either of you?

Cassidy

(218 posts)
146. Covid was the 4th leading cause of death in the U.S. in 2024.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:24 AM
Jan 17

I plan to wear my mask every public place every winter for the foreseeable future. I also plan to wear them places like grocery stores year round. It stuns me that medical personnel do not wear masks. If someone gives me grief, I pretend that I am sick and offer to cough on them.

CrispyQ

(39,049 posts)
153. My sympathies.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:48 AM
Jan 17

That's a long time to suffer. I still mask & last week in the grocery store a woman said to me as we crossed in the aisle, "Covid's over." I coughed really loud inside my mask & she hustled away. It's not over!

Jarqui

(10,566 posts)
163. I've had Covid 5 times
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:49 AM
Jan 17

The first time, there wasn't a safe testing method for it so my doctor recommended against testing.
I came back with it from travelling.
I had ordered N95 masks in Jan '20 when I first heard about it - from two different places fearing an order would get stolen. Both orders never made it.
But early on, I got N95 masks. I have worn them in public ever since.
I've never missed a vaccination.
We socially distanced. etc.
My doctor and I came up with an anti covid cocktail - much of what they gave Trump when he got it.

In spite of all that, I've had it 5 times.
I have immediate family in retail.
Got it once from my dentists office.
2024 was long Covid. After a month of it in Jan, it morphed into a 12 week pneumonia and then into some sort of chromic gout-like arthritic attack (I don't drink, etc). Blood tests did not clear up until Sept.
Put on a bunch of weight from being idle so long. I still have 10 lbs to lose.

I think what Trump (& Reps like DeSantis) did about it was horrific - they killed a lot of people.
I think Dr. Fauci and others like him were heroic and wonderful - they saved lives.

A dear friend's wife nearly died from it last week. Paxlovid appears to have helped save her.
My daughter's family of four may be fighting it now. They seem to be coming through it ok. Everyone's test kits have expired and new ones haven't been easy to find.

Evolve Dammit

(20,042 posts)
193. The ones we got from the gov't were expired. I guess they have extended the dating and kits are still good?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:35 PM
Jan 17

Jarqui

(10,566 posts)
196. I've heard they're probably still pretty good after the expiry date
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:11 PM
Jan 17

If you have nothing, it might be better than nothing

but it still leaves that uncertainty "what if the test is wrong because it is past its best before date?" ...

A top 10 killer ought to have a decent supply of those tests

Katinfl

(292 posts)
171. After reading all the the responses to this thread, I am even more afraid of what is to come.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:08 PM
Jan 17

With trump and RFK Jr. In office we are screwed if something like this happens again. We were lucky because Biden was able to get us back on track after Covid but we will not have an incoming democratic president this time. I am fearing bird flu will become a thing in time.

maxsolomon

(35,829 posts)
174. The Covid Pandemic probably won't return.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:58 PM
Jan 17

Another Pandemic from whatever disease this close to Covid probably won't happen. The last one prior to Covid was during WW1.

Covid is now Endemic. A portion of the population who would have previously died from Flu or Pneumonia are now dying from Covid.

PortTack

(35,259 posts)
182. So sorry! It's beyond the pale the red idiots voted once again for this menace. Forgetting all about covid
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:28 PM
Jan 17

They all have ppl that died, or are now long covid victims. They never learn!

love_katz

(2,910 posts)
199. I'm glad to see that a couple of vile comments were removed.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 09:49 PM
Jan 17

I have been on DU for many years. My profile may not reflect that, but I lurked here for a very long time before deciding to join. There used to be some really bad flame wars here, back in the early days. I also lost my original posting identity, back during one of the change overs in versions of DU.

I have never had to alert on someone's comments in all the years that I have been a member. This thread changed that for me. Thank you, MIRT, for deleting the comments.



As democrats, I know we need to be able to disagree with each other and have tough discussions. But the removed comments were cruel and contained personal attacks on the commentator for the original OP. She doesn't deserve those kind of attacks.

The attacker also seemed to be spouting false information about COVID-19.

Thank you MIRT, and thank you EarlG and Elad for keeping DU the decent place it is, to hold discussions.

samplegirl

(12,509 posts)
202. Yes, I think it's a little tamer now. People still like to start Snark.
Sat Jan 18, 2025, 07:58 AM
Jan 18

I just ignore it. If you're going to joke about the death of somebody's friend, that's pretty bad.
And you must be an attention getter!

I wish that Ohio would use their head with Amy Acton, running for governor instead of Ramaswami after all she was the one that backed wearing masks and Fauci!
If you're not safe in a hospital from Covid then where are you?????
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