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Zorro

(16,596 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:50 AM 12 hrs ago

Trump Threatens to Bypass GOP Congress to Unleash MAGA Plans

If anyone was expecting moderate Republicans in Congress to temper Donald Trump’s more extreme plans on immigration and tariffs, the president-elect doesn’t plan to give them the chance, Trump told lawmakers this week.

During a two-hour meeting with Senate Republicans, Trump said he plans to immediately enact his MAGA vision instead of waiting for Congress to act, according to a new report in the Wall Street Journal. He has already prepared about 100 executive orders, and he has no qualms testing the legal limits of presidential authority, he said.

For months, Trump’s aides have been looking at obscure laws passed about 50 years ago that he can invoke to unilaterally carry out his plans and bypass congressional funding limits. Instead of feeling preemptively constrained by constitutional checks and balances, he plans to do what he wants and take his chances with the courts, the Journal reported.

“The American people can bank on President Trump using his executive power on day one to deliver on the promises he made to them on the campaign trail.” Trump transition spokesperson Karoline Leavitt told the Daily Beast in a statement.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-threatens-to-bypass-gop-congress-to-unleash-maga-plans/

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Trump Threatens to Bypass GOP Congress to Unleash MAGA Plans (Original Post) Zorro 12 hrs ago OP
God help us all. Firestorm49 12 hrs ago #1
I'm pretty sure God is saying Blue_Tires 11 hrs ago #26
drumpf becoming president is proof there are no gods JoseBalow 10 hrs ago #43
God doesn't care ZonkerHarris 9 hrs ago #46
Since according to Christians god appointed him I doubt the cloud sitter Autumn 9 hrs ago #57
And the sun rises in the East. Anyone surprised? Whyisthisstillclose 12 hrs ago #2
Nope orangecrush 11 hrs ago #12
The Sun rises in the West if Trump says so. kiri 8 hrs ago #60
Said the fascist domestic enemy. Doesn't the oath of office say something about protecting against domestic enemies? Hotler 12 hrs ago #3
The "oath of office..." dchill 11 hrs ago #4
I hope his hand burns when he puts bdamomma 11 hrs ago #23
Shh don't say that SARose 11 hrs ago #11
I suspect the chaplain being a "she" made the decision an easy one liberalla 11 hrs ago #20
"oath of office", another myth about to be done away with. republianmushroom 9 hrs ago #50
He enjoys court. We'll be a series of President-Dictators. No more elections. bucolic_frolic 11 hrs ago #5
Not real elections BigMin28 11 hrs ago #19
"Stupid Suckers." - King Felon the Dodger of Drafts (R) BoRaGard 11 hrs ago #6
And they thought it was only for Day 1 aeromanKC 11 hrs ago #7
Let him SARose 11 hrs ago #8
I've had similar thoughts on MAGA regret... liberalla 11 hrs ago #16
Do you know my family? SARose 6 hrs ago #68
The best way to absorb the DENVERPOPS 9 hrs ago #55
I agree SARose 6 hrs ago #67
the RepubliCONs learned from history DENVERPOPS 5 hrs ago #69
What's next? C_U_L8R 11 hrs ago #9
Don't think it can't happen Wifes husband 10 hrs ago #29
Doesn't mean he won't try it. calimary 10 hrs ago #42
Shocking, indeed dalton99a 11 hrs ago #10
Okay Fine, Tread On Me Qutzupalotl 11 hrs ago #13
Wake me up in 4 years, you guys can carry on without me. dem4decades 11 hrs ago #14
Is this true? EndlessWire 11 hrs ago #15
For the felon bdamomma 8 hrs ago #61
Congress needs Rebl2 11 hrs ago #17
I've been planning to setup a monthly donation to the ACLU Unwind Your Mind 11 hrs ago #18
I still haven't forgiven them for Citizens United Blue_Tires 11 hrs ago #25
We're all going to get a crash course on the Impoundment Act Arazi 11 hrs ago #21
Hasn't that been his plan all along? Clouds Passing 11 hrs ago #22
HE LITERALLY SAID HE'D BE "A DICTATOR FROM DAY ONE" Blue_Tires 11 hrs ago #24
Can an Executive Order be nullified no_hypocrisy 11 hrs ago #27
Temporarily, yes, until appeals reach the corrupt court. nt Justice matters. 10 hrs ago #31
People don't understand Wifes husband 11 hrs ago #28
The power of the purse neohippie 10 hrs ago #30
Except that it's not a game. Real people who did not vote for that... Justice matters. 10 hrs ago #33
They may have the majority, but as Hakeem Jeffries pointed out, they won't get anything done without the dems PortTack 10 hrs ago #35
What is there to stop him? Wifes husband 7 hrs ago #65
And we'll see how the courts make him stay within the rails now. lees1975 10 hrs ago #32
Hair Furhair will sign EOs that will overrule any limitations. Justice matters. 10 hrs ago #34
I wonder how his "delay delay delay" tactic will work for him in this case? RainCaster 10 hrs ago #36
I would say not very well. He can't stick with anything long enough to get stuff done. He creates chaos and PortTack 10 hrs ago #40
Plus, he has the attention span of a fly RainCaster 10 hrs ago #41
So Fascism? NameAlreadyTaken 10 hrs ago #37
And...the ACLU, democracy docket, the SPLC and others literally have hundreds of laws ready to go on day one PortTack 10 hrs ago #38
Sure hope that these organizations will be able to stall TSF's asinine plans. I'm at the age where I want iluvtennis 9 hrs ago #49
M.A.G.A. Mr.Bee 10 hrs ago #39
Biden's judges will block him videohead5 10 hrs ago #44
The inauguration will be.... Beck23 10 hrs ago #45
Congress can impeach and remove Trump from office. Frank D. Lincoln 9 hrs ago #47
When you're immune from any consequences, why not? spanone 9 hrs ago #48
Every house and senate member Old Crank 9 hrs ago #51
So glad Legacy Media informed us of these plans BEFORE the election perdita9 9 hrs ago #52
I was aware. Don't know where you have been Wifes husband 6 hrs ago #66
That's good news because it increases the possibility that none of it will survive the inevitable lawsuits. Martin68 9 hrs ago #53
Greed EarthAbides 9 hrs ago #54
Presumes an extinct creature LR3 9 hrs ago #56
Look it ReRe 9 hrs ago #58
Trump rips up the Constitution & throws it away... CaptainTruth 8 hrs ago #59
"Ha ha. Suckers. Ha ha." - The Felon (R) BoRaGard 8 hrs ago #62
Message auto-removed Name removed 7 hrs ago #63
Back again I see. Bye GP6971 7 hrs ago #64

Blue_Tires

(57,394 posts)
26. I'm pretty sure God is saying
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:42 AM
11 hrs ago

"I sent you Hillary, I sent you Kamala and y'all still fucked it all up... From now on, you're on your own!"

Autumn

(46,869 posts)
57. Since according to Christians god appointed him I doubt the cloud sitter
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:44 PM
9 hrs ago

will do anything to help anyone.

Hotler

(12,470 posts)
3. Said the fascist domestic enemy. Doesn't the oath of office say something about protecting against domestic enemies?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:58 AM
12 hrs ago

SARose

(1,004 posts)
11. Shh don't say that
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:14 AM
11 hrs ago

The House Chaplain was just removed because she said something about the “enemies within.”

Jesus Johnson took umbrage and replaced her with someone who has never been a chaplain. Yeah! 🎉

republianmushroom

(18,460 posts)
50. "oath of office", another myth about to be done away with.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:11 PM
9 hrs ago

There is NOBODY to enforce it, the DOJ, you joke.

SARose

(1,004 posts)
8. Let him
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:11 AM
11 hrs ago

Let these fools live out their little boy wet dreams.

Several articles are posted here stating folks didn’t vote for deportation of ag workers, construction workers, oil field workers, etc.

Prove to them they did.

As my Dad always said “there’s always one child who just has to touch the stove to see if it is hot.”😉

I want MAGA America to long for the good old days under Obama and Biden.

Look up the Robber Barons of the Gilded Age and see how that ended.

liberalla

(10,144 posts)
16. I've had similar thoughts on MAGA regret...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:26 AM
11 hrs ago

"OMG! What was I thinking? This isn't what I voted for!"
"If only Biden was still the President!"
"Sleepy Joe wasn't so bad!"
"Why did we think electing a criminal was a good idea?"

SARose

(1,004 posts)
68. Do you know my family?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:53 PM
6 hrs ago

Lol!

They are soooo special nothing bad ever happens to folks like them.

Okay

DENVERPOPS

(10,387 posts)
55. The best way to absorb the
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:36 PM
9 hrs ago

catastrophic results of the Past Robber Barrons/Gilded Age

is to read: THE GRAPES OF WRATH by Steinbeck...............

I read it in eighth grade, and I read it again two months ago........It really impressed upon me how I thought about it in 1961 vs how I think about it in 2025.............after 64 years of living, learning, and observing......
It shows how the uber rich robber barron's actions forced every one into a day by day fight to even subsist..........

That book, and several others, were required reading in my social studies class that year. The others were: Animal Farm, 1984, The Jungle, and the Ugly American........
I have re-read all of those again, in the past six months, just to give me an entirely new perspective.
For starters, I think everyone should read/re-read Animal Farm. And reflect on the Trump/RepubliCon Indoctrination these past 25-45 past years.
Most interesting was that the teacher who required us to read those books, was a devout hard core Republican. AND, he almost got fired for having us read those books..........

And, quite literally, I feel we are on the doorsteps of repeating that segment of history all over again. As someone once said:
"Those who don't learn from history, are bound to repeat it..."

SARose

(1,004 posts)
67. I agree
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:51 PM
6 hrs ago

I feel the same way about history repeating itself.

I just pray we don’t experience the horrid things that happened before the Gilded Age ended in a world war.

DENVERPOPS

(10,387 posts)
69. the RepubliCONs learned from history
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:03 PM
5 hrs ago

and that is why they are hell bent on taking us back to that gilded age.....The RepubliCon Party has made no secret of them LOATHING all that FDR did to get us out of the great depression, and establish regulatory agencies that prevented them from doing what they did during the gilded age. No big secret either, that the RepubliCONs and Trump are going to get complete control of every last Regulatory Agency, and try to actually remove them entirely from the Government.........

The impending threat of A Revolutionary War, A Civil War, and/or a World war are looming out there.............

calimary

(84,858 posts)
42. Doesn't mean he won't try it.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:50 PM
10 hrs ago

To see how far he can push it. And how much he can get away with. ALWAYS testing the limits. That’s just who he is.

EndlessWire

(7,348 posts)
15. Is this true?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:24 AM
11 hrs ago

If it is, we can thank the corrupted SC for a guy who truly is above the law. We are only human, and there are many theories as to how we got here, but someone has to haul this guy in. It seems that only when people get personally hurt will they act. Then, it's hard not to wish the devil be upon them for inflicting pain on the rest of us. Feel it , MAGA, and see what you have done.

That said, I am not at all certain that the election wasn't stolen. We have no choice but to start now, on inauguration day, to plan for a win at the Midterms.

I am astounded at the immense numbers of absolutely rotten people that are running our lives. Ruining our lives, as some of us are older, poorer, and won't be able to manage this assault on our freedom. Eff all MAGA, and especially, eff Trump et al. You can't take death and destruction back, so I hope something bad happens to yah. I'm going to hell anyway...except, I think the next four years will be it.

I HATE who trump is, what he looks like, his ignorant spawn, every lie out of his mouth, and his gold-covered shitters, especially the one where he placed our country's classified docs. Can I pray for a monster hurricane to flatten MAL? Maybe a sinkhole...

bdamomma

(66,964 posts)
61. For the felon
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:17 PM
8 hrs ago

who is a climate denier may Mother Nature and Sister Climate change (a fellow DU'er referred to Climate change as this) nail his a$$ to the wall in Mar la loco.

I wish his cult would retaliate if his so-called promises are just lies, (we know he can never tell the truth).

Unwind Your Mind

(2,190 posts)
18. I've been planning to setup a monthly donation to the ACLU
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:26 AM
11 hrs ago

Monday would be a good day to do that, if anyone would like to join me 😊

Arazi

(7,194 posts)
21. We're all going to get a crash course on the Impoundment Act
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:31 AM
11 hrs ago

Not sure if Congressional Dems have the legal ability to sue WHEN Traitor seizes funds that Congress has already allocated. Also untested is how willingly Congress abdicates its authority. Not looking good for this Congress desiring to stand up for itself.

I believe states would have the right to sue?

IANAL but none of this has been tested in court.

Buckle up

Blue_Tires

(57,394 posts)
24. HE LITERALLY SAID HE'D BE "A DICTATOR FROM DAY ONE"
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:36 AM
11 hrs ago

He said he "wanted the kind of generals that Hitler had"...

He's promised "military tribunals and firing squads for his political enemies"...

Instead of pretending to be shocked, WHY didn't people DO SOMETHING TO STOP IT? Yeah, yeah I know... Something something Gaza even though 90% of the loudest Pro-Pal accounts on Twitter vanished after the election 🙄

Wifes husband

(149 posts)
28. People don't understand
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:57 AM
11 hrs ago

Listen. It's over. You need to read your history. Dictators just take power.

Read what Andrew Jackson did at the trail of tears. Absolutely illegal. Did it anyway.

No president has ever been held accountable for anything, and the new one has been held immune for anything he does. He can pardon any of his minions, so forget about any control over them.

neohippie

(1,178 posts)
30. The power of the purse
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:12 PM
10 hrs ago

I am not sure that he can bypass Congress's control of funding what he wants. But I also wouldn't trust the GOP to stand in his way as they have done nothing but enable all of this

I guess we're about to see the beginning of the hunger games

Justice matters.

(7,659 posts)
33. Except that it's not a game. Real people who did not vote for that...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:18 PM
10 hrs ago

will really suffer immensely due to big private money into politics where there should not be any.

PortTack

(34,990 posts)
35. They may have the majority, but as Hakeem Jeffries pointed out, they won't get anything done without the dems
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:32 PM
10 hrs ago

So, if there’s no money, there’s no money. What’s he going to do? Spend his own money? HE DOES’T HAVE ANY MONEY

Wifes husband

(149 posts)
65. What is there to stop him?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:59 PM
7 hrs ago

He is immune from prosecution. He can pardon his minions. He owns the courts and Congress.

lees1975

(6,180 posts)
32. And we'll see how the courts make him stay within the rails now.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:16 PM
10 hrs ago

Executive orders have limitations. Funding doesn't accompany them.

Justice matters.

(7,659 posts)
34. Hair Furhair will sign EOs that will overrule any limitations.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:22 PM
10 hrs ago

Courts will oppose them until appeals will reach the corrupt court...

Good effin luck if they don't rule them "Official Act" thus "immune goes the felon" (otherwise, face insurrectionists at the door).

RainCaster

(11,766 posts)
36. I wonder how his "delay delay delay" tactic will work for him in this case?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:34 PM
10 hrs ago

He only knows one strategy- delay. How will that work for him when the government bureaucracy requires an OK from the courts before they will implement his desires? Same with the military.

PortTack

(34,990 posts)
40. I would say not very well. He can't stick with anything long enough to get stuff done. He creates chaos and
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:37 PM
10 hrs ago

Then walks away.

He really is very boxed in….he knows it and that’s why all the bluster.

RainCaster

(11,766 posts)
41. Plus, he has the attention span of a fly
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:42 PM
10 hrs ago

Too easily distracted by everything.

This will be a fun time to sit back and watch the GOP fail.

PortTack

(34,990 posts)
38. And...the ACLU, democracy docket, the SPLC and others literally have hundreds of laws ready to go on day one
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:35 PM
10 hrs ago

He didn’t get much done the last time. It isn’t going to be that much different this time.

iluvtennis

(20,983 posts)
49. Sure hope that these organizations will be able to stall TSF's asinine plans. I'm at the age where I want
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:08 PM
9 hrs ago

the years to pass slowly, but with TSF in office, I want the years to pass as quickly as possible.

videohead5

(2,507 posts)
44. Biden's judges will block him
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:55 PM
10 hrs ago

I don't know about the Supreme Court, but it will take months probably a year or more for the case to ever get to SCOTUS.

Beck23

(295 posts)
45. The inauguration will be....
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:55 PM
10 hrs ago

Extremely cold and windy, in the 20s. I hope he begs for earmuffs to hold his hair on his head.

Update. The inauguration will be moved inside.

Frank D. Lincoln

(738 posts)
47. Congress can impeach and remove Trump from office.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:01 PM
9 hrs ago

IF even hardline and MAGA Republicans realize how dangerous Trump is and mutiny against him. I know that's a HUGE if, but it's possible in theory.

And if JD Vance tries it, Congress can get rid of him too.

But of course I know that no one will stop Trump.

Old Crank

(5,106 posts)
51. Every house and senate member
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:11 PM
9 hrs ago

Might as well put their junk in a jar and hand carry it to the White house Tuesday morning. That is why those grovellers were voted in to do.

perdita9

(1,197 posts)
52. So glad Legacy Media informed us of these plans BEFORE the election
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:22 PM
9 hrs ago

Rather than obsessing over Kamala's shoes and how she should be doing more interviews.

Martin68

(24,822 posts)
53. That's good news because it increases the possibility that none of it will survive the inevitable lawsuits.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:28 PM
9 hrs ago

I also love the snub of the MAGA Congress. That will certainly insure a lot of infighting and warfare between different factions on the right. Will the Republican-mjority congress let Trump bypass them entirely, treating them like the weak, useless pile of crap they actually are?

EarthAbides

(139 posts)
54. Greed
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:32 PM
9 hrs ago

Remember the oligarchs own what Americans want/need, food, money, technology, electricity, healthcare and housing. If the people don't like what the orange magat is doing, blackmail and extortion from the oligarchs will be the name of the game.

LR3

(1 post)
56. Presumes an extinct creature
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:42 PM
9 hrs ago

Haha, it's so cute that there are still journalists that think there are such things as moderate Republicans in Congress that would temper Donald Trump’s more extreme plans.

ReRe

(10,969 posts)
58. Look it
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:56 PM
9 hrs ago

He said he was going to be dictator on Day 1. He's going to pass these 100 Executive Orders, then sit back and relax. He'll fly around to warmer clims' and play golf, sell his junk. Maleria could coordinate the redecoration of the White House from her quarters in NYC. It will all fall into place after that 1st day.

I always thought the President proposes and the Congress disposes, that Congress holds the purse strings.
I guess I don't understand "Executive Orders" that well. Is there no one on DU who can iron out Exec Orders for us? If so, you have the stage. Kindly step forward and post and OP filling us all in on the particulars, please!

CaptainTruth

(7,319 posts)
59. Trump rips up the Constitution & throws it away...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:05 PM
8 hrs ago

...& millions of brainwashed idiots cheer.

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