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WarGamer

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Just curious, does Greenland have universal healthcare? SouthernCal_Dem Jan 17 #1
I said they'd be an independent country... why would they adopt American Gov't policies? WarGamer Jan 17 #4
"I said they'd be an independent country" SouthernCal_Dem Jan 17 #6
Yes, but... Bonx Jan 17 #19
If Greenland doesn't like being a colony of Denmark they sure won't like being a colony of the US. Ocelot II Jan 17 #2
Clearly an independent Greenland will have a number of suitors. WarGamer Jan 17 #3
True ck4829 Jan 17 #5
Really? atreides1 Jan 17 #7
Denmark is... WarGamer Jan 17 #8
Thank you for the clarification BannonsLiver Jan 17 #10
More backdoor pro Trump nonsense. Kingofalldems Jan 17 #9
On brand BannonsLiver Jan 17 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jan 17 #12
And then the obligatory response followed by self delete. Kingofalldems Jan 17 #13
I'm not surprised BannonsLiver Jan 17 #14
hmmmm WarGamer Jan 17 #17
Is that the sound a Tesla makes before it cooks off? BannonsLiver Jan 17 #18
Greenland isn't in the Denmark fan club DeepWinter Jan 17 #15
Wouldn't it be Danish rule? BannonsLiver Jan 17 #16
The referendum in question would establish a sovereign country. WarGamer Jan 17 #21
So will the US pick up the tab to subsidize Greenland's government and public services? thucythucy Jan 17 #20
Spare me this malaise Jan 17 #22
Greenland wants independence... WarGamer Jan 17 #23
Iceland *is* independent. Has been for a long time. Ocelot II Jan 21 #26
Just an innocent typo... don't always have to pounce, my friend. WarGamer Jan 21 #27
Get thee to Latest Trump BS ck4829 Jan 21 #24
Huh? WarGamer Jan 21 #25

SouthernCal_Dem

(959 posts)
1. Just curious, does Greenland have universal healthcare?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:51 PM
Jan 17

If so, I wonder how they'd feel about trading their healthcare for American gun violence.

I know most Canadians were opposed when Trump floated Canada as the 51st state.

WarGamer

(16,733 posts)
4. I said they'd be an independent country... why would they adopt American Gov't policies?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:54 PM
Jan 17

SouthernCal_Dem

(959 posts)
6. "I said they'd be an independent country"
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:00 PM
Jan 17

LOL.

Bonx

(2,304 posts)
19. Yes, but...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:58 PM
Jan 17

Services included:
Medical treatment: Free doctor and specialist visits, hospital stays, and nursing care
Dental care: Free emergency dental treatment, and some free dental care for residents
Vaccinations: Free vaccinations within the vaccination program
Transportation: Free transportation to the nearest hospital for prescribed treatments that aren't available locally
Special care: Free care for pregnant women and new parents
Services that may have extra costs:
Aids and appliances: Residents may need to pay a portion of the cost for prosthetics or glasses
Specialized dental treatment: Specialized dental treatment is not available at the National Dentistry
What to expect:
The healthcare system may not be able to provide the same services as European healthcare systems
Some places may only offer minor consultations
Remote areas may have staff shortages at clinics
Medical emergencies may require evacuation to Iceland or Denmark

Ocelot II

(123,950 posts)
2. If Greenland doesn't like being a colony of Denmark they sure won't like being a colony of the US.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:51 PM
Jan 17

Greenland actually wants greater EU involvement.

Greenland wants a stronger EU presence over the territory's critical raw materials needed to build new clean energy technologies such as solar panels and batteries, Aaja Chemnitz, a member of the Danish parliament for Greenland's left-wing Inuit Ataqatigiit (IA) separatist party, told Euronews.

"We (IA) would like to see the EU much more engaged when it comes to rare earths. We know that 73% of everything the EU needs when it comes to rare earths can be found in Greenland, and right now we have more or less a Chinese monopoly when it comes to rare earths," she pointed out, seeing an opportunity for the EU to invest in this area.

In recent years, the EU has pushed for greater cooperation with the island on energy and rare earths, and Commission President Ursula von der Leyen visited the island last March to open an EU office in Nuuk, Greenland's capital.

However, Chemnitz believes that the EU and Denmark have not paid enough attention to Greenlanders but now have a window of opportunity to strengthen relations with the island in a "more realistic way", including on defence and security.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/01/16/greenland-lawmaker-touts-stronger-eu-role-in-islands-critical-raw-materials

WarGamer

(16,733 posts)
3. Clearly an independent Greenland will have a number of suitors.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:52 PM
Jan 17

That's the plan... and first on Greenland's list is security followed by prosperity.

ck4829

(36,877 posts)
5. True
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:59 PM
Jan 17

atreides1

(16,597 posts)
7. Really?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:09 PM
Jan 17

Greenland isn't a member of the EU. Greenland left in 1985, following a referendum in 1982 with 53% voting for withdrawal after a dispute over fishing rights. The Greenland Treaty formalized their exit.

In March 2015, the President of the EU Commission, the Prime Minister of Denmark and the Greenland Premier signed 'an umbrella' framework document outlining EU-Greenland relations, a "Joint Declaration on relations between the European Union, on the one hand, and the Government of Greenland and the Government of Denmark, on the other". By this document, the EU confirms its long lasting links with Greenland and reiterates the geostrategic importance of Greenland for the EU

In 2024 an opinion poll found that 60 percent of Greenland's population would vote in favor of re-joining the EU, an increase from 2021 where only 40 percent were in favor.

WarGamer

(16,733 posts)
8. Denmark is...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:16 PM
Jan 17

And Egade said just a few days ago they were hoping for an independence referendum in 2025.

After that they can apply to join the EU or stay separate... we'll see.

BannonsLiver

(19,027 posts)
10. Thank you for the clarification
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:24 PM
Jan 17

I got a whiff of propaganda as soon as I started reading.

“Good Duers don’t propagandize other DUers.” 😉

Kingofalldems

(39,477 posts)
9. More backdoor pro Trump nonsense.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:18 PM
Jan 17

BannonsLiver

(19,027 posts)
11. On brand
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:24 PM
Jan 17

Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #11)

Kingofalldems

(39,477 posts)
13. And then the obligatory response followed by self delete.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:29 PM
Jan 17

BannonsLiver

(19,027 posts)
14. I'm not surprised
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:34 PM
Jan 17

WarGamer

(16,733 posts)
17. hmmmm
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:36 PM
Jan 17

BannonsLiver

(19,027 posts)
18. Is that the sound a Tesla makes before it cooks off?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:38 PM
Jan 17
 

DeepWinter

(931 posts)
15. Greenland isn't in the Denmark fan club
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:34 PM
Jan 17

Greenlands Prime minister made a statement, he's open to talking with Trump.

https://nypost.com/2025/01/11/us-news/greenland-leaders-ready-to-talk-with-trump/

"Greenland’s leader Múte Egede said he is prepared to enter into negotiations with President-elect Trump about the future of the mineral-rich arctic territory — but warned his people had no interest in becoming Americans."

"“We have a desire for independence, a desire to be the master of our own house … This is something everyone should respect,” he said. “Greenland is for the Greenlandic people. We do not want to be Danish, we do not want to be American. We want to be Greenlandic.”

(Context - Greenland has not been happy with Dutch rule for quite some time. There is a desire to split off from Denmark, to be sovergn.)

BannonsLiver

(19,027 posts)
16. Wouldn't it be Danish rule?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:36 PM
Jan 17

WarGamer

(16,733 posts)
21. The referendum in question would establish a sovereign country.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:21 PM
Jan 17

By definition that means Danish rule ends.

thucythucy

(8,830 posts)
20. So will the US pick up the tab to subsidize Greenland's government and public services?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:39 PM
Jan 17

Denmark provides more than half a billion dollars annually to Greenland, accounting for more than half its public budget and twenty percent of its GDP.

I hardly think a GOP dominated US government will be in favor of all that "socialism" currently funded by Denmark.

Then too--with our relaxed gun laws they can probably look forward to lots more school shootings.

If people in Greenland think a US sponsored corporate destruction of their environment will somehow benefit the average Greenlander they're in for a cruel awakening.

malaise

(282,446 posts)
22. Spare me this
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:23 PM
Jan 17

imperialist crap

The US does not own our planet.
Sort out your own domestic mess.

WarGamer

(16,733 posts)
23. Greenland wants independence...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:25 PM
Jan 17

Last edited Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:31 PM - Edit history (1)

Other nations will swoop in looking to benefit... right?

Ocelot II

(123,950 posts)
26. Iceland *is* independent. Has been for a long time.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 02:49 PM
Jan 21

Where does Iceland figure into this?

If you're confusing Iceland with Greenland you really don't understand the situation.

WarGamer

(16,733 posts)
27. Just an innocent typo... don't always have to pounce, my friend.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:31 PM
Jan 21

Greenland on the other hand... is NOT independent... yet.

ck4829

(36,877 posts)
24. Get thee to Latest Trump BS
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 02:36 PM
Jan 21

WarGamer

(16,733 posts)
25. Huh?
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 02:38 PM
Jan 21
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