The naivete (the symbols won't show in the title line for some reason) here has GOT to go.

[hamsterjill]

I’m seeing posters calling him “President Trump” and I was already chastised for commenting that I will never call him that. The usual “we’ve got to give respect if we expect to get respect”.

Did the last eight years not teach Democrats anything? I’m sorry people, but wake the fuck up!!!

This is not charm school and we are not having tea. We are in the fight of our lives for the very existence that we have enjoyed up to this point. Those freedoms we have enjoyed are being chiseled away one by one. Some of us who are seniors have a sincere and real fear for our very existence under this idiot.

The way you fight a bully is with a bigger bully. You can’t shame him. You can’t reason with him. You have to FORCE him. The Democratic party is going to be forced to get its ass down IN THE TRENCHES and fight mano-y-mano with the assholes, or we are lost for good. There is no other choice. We need leaders who get that and are willing to fight dirty if and when needed. Which is going to be a lot!

I, and many others here, raved about Merrick Garland for years. We were met with “oh, just give him some time”. Well, you see where that got us!

Respect, my ass.

[Scrivener7]

1. Oh, for fuck's sake. Did someone seriously say, "We have to give respect if we expect to get respect"?

Do we never learn?

My favorite is, "He won't do that! It's against the law!"

The newest iteration of that is, "But that won't happen! The EO doesn't go that far!"

ANYTHING can happen, kids. The guardrails are gone. Act accordingly.

[BonnieJW]

24. He'll always be felon 47 to me

George Conway calls him FFOTUS

First Felon of the United States

[KPN]

34. mini-Vice President Trump to me.

[barbtries]

83. he's TCFSF to me

now and always. the convicted felon sick FUCK

[wnylib]

86. I give him all the respect that he has earned.

That's why I have so many names for him, but my favorites are:

POSIC -- POS in Chief

FIC -- Felon in Chief

He has done so much to earn that degree of respect so why not give it to him?

[CrispyQ]

2. Why would we call him president when he stated clearly, that he wasn't going to be a president for all Americans?

Fuck that orange piece of shit.

[Farmer-Rick]

32. Yup, he also said he was going to be a

Dictator on day 1. And he's clearly a Nazi lover. So, Nazi dictator seems appropriate.

He ain't no president that's for sure. He's not protecting the Constitution. A dictator on day one doesn't plan on following his oath. A Nazi lover is scum.

He'll never get any respect from me.

[CrispyQ]

35. Apparently the Constitution & the Bill of Rights have been on the WhiteHouse.gov site but are not both 404 errors.

OMG, I just visited & the site vomit inducing.

[Farmer-Rick]

36. Yeah, all it seems to have now

Are vomit inducing pictures of an orange, rotund, balding, ugly Nazi dictator. And pictures of our nation's Whitehouse and plane. I wonder if he's going to give up Epstein's old jet? Pedophiles got to stick together.

America is gone. It's all about the Nazi dictator now.

[yellow dahlia]

73. Bizarre and ominous.

[Clouds Passing]

98. And we won't have to vote anymore. Why does anyone keep talking about the Democrats are gonna sweep the midterms?

He said it! He meant it! He’s gonna do it! Dictator day one. Won’t have to vote anymore.

“When someone shows you who they are believe them the first time!”

[MiHale]

3. Gloves are off in my neck of the woods...I'm loud!

And I don’t give a shit…I’ll shovel it right back down their throats.

[AverageOldGuy]

4. Amen!!!

From time to time I accuse Democrats of “taking a pillow to a knife fight.” Invariably someone is horrified at my use of violent language.

[dalton99a]

6. No mention of cutlery is allowed. Too graphic for tender ears. Only soft and fluffy pillows

[Linda ladeewolf]

25. A soft fluffy pillow

With a brick in the center?!

[Evolve Dammit]

92. Lock in a sock. Preferred in prison attacks..

[sinkingfeeling]

5. He'll always be TSF or the Donvict for me.

[WinstonSmith4740]

64. I missed that long ago memo...

TSF?

[sinkingfeeling]

66. From Biden: "The Sick F**k"

[WinstonSmith4740]

67. Thank you!!

I knew about TFG, but now I love Biden even more than before.

[Bird Lady]

7. I call him

felonious45 and that is what I will continue to call him.
I learned when I was young, to try to make nice with a bully only makes him meaner and I shutter to think how much meaner they can get.

[nwliberalkiwi]

8. No Prisoners

Take no prisoners---the revolution is on.

[CapnSteve]

9. I can't be a bully. It is not who I am. I am, like many people here, a decent human being.

Think of a spectrum, with President Jimmy Carter at one end and Convicted Felon Trump at the other. Where do you fall? Be honest with yourself. I am much closer to President Carter than the Convicted Felon. I am decent, kind, and generous.

For much of my life, I was a door mat, allowing people to walk over me. A "go along to get along" type, but with a lot of help I transformed into an anvil. Attack me, beat me, try to make me change or move on a subject I know is right and the only result is that YOU will be changed, like iron being bent against the anvil's hard surface.

I will not be intimidated, I will not be moved. I am an anvil.

[hamsterjill]

13. Well good for you. But that's not going to win this war.

I’m tired of the “you’ll become like them”. The only alternative is that you will be annihilated by them.

Yes, we are at that point.

I, too, and a good and decent person. But I’m no longer a nice person.

[yellow dahlia]

74. I hear you.

Mr. Dahila often reminds me that I give people the benefit of the doubt...too much. I was raised on "kill them with kindness". We are strangers in a strange land.

[ChazInAz]

93. That was the whole point of Machieveli's "The Prince".

He was advising a kind and decent prince that he had to study and use the practices of his devious, murderous peers against them if he ever wanted to accomplish anything. Otherwise he would be crushed.

[moonshinegnomie]

97. you dont bring knife to a gun fight as teh saying goes

[WinstonSmith4740]

65. Good for you!

I was the same way...go along to get along, don't make waves, etc.

Then 2 things changed. I started teaching Health in High School and Middle School. Anti-bullying is part of the course, and after you repeat the same thing to a whole bunch of different kids, it sinks in...the ONLY way to handle a bully is to stand up to them, something our politicians better learn, and fast. The second thing is that asshole was elected because too many people in this country think it's obviously just fine to put a damned criminal in charge of things. The Police Union discovered it...now that the panther is eating THEIR faces, it's a problem.

So screw 'em all. They want a fight? I think they're going to be shocked at the level of resistance, and then they will, of course, whine about how unfair & mean Democrats are because we won't just let them run roughshod over us. We don't have to be bullies...we just need to be strong.

We have all become anvils, now. Or need to, real fast. They wanna play? Let's play.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

10. If someone here calls him P****dent t***p...

…unless quoting some article or admonishes any here to respect ‘the office’, I will trash their post/Op. Courtesy?? Respect?? We’ve seen how well that works!

[yellow dahlia]

75. Hear! Hear!

[WinstonSmith4740]

11. I strongly suspect...

Anyone here saying WE have to be respectful and be ready to reach across the aisles are lurking trolls who take a great deal of pleasure at seeing us argue amongst ourselves...it takes the spotlight off of them.

I totally agree...screw them. Where exactly did "going high" get us? Michelle figured it out, and stood her ground when it came to playing nice with that cabal of liars and thieves. I taught Health at both the High School and Middle School level...and I spent a LOT of time on bullying. The message I hammered home was the ONLY way to stop a bully is to stand up to him/her. Pick off the "wing men" one at a time, and then go after #1. I'll guarantee they will crumble.

[hamsterjill]

14. I agree. I think many are trolls.

But I also think there are a lot of Democrats who are passive and want to hold themselves to a “moral high horse” saying that THEY would never act up.

We are beyond that!

[dalton99a]

12. Convicted felon Donald Trump, rapist, traitor.

[johnnyfins]

15. How about

Illegitimate President Trump?

Because, according to the United States Constitution, that is what he is.

[Wounded Bear]

16. Whatever. I call him trump. No capitals, no p-word...

[calimary]

26. Yep!!! So do I.

I didn’t vote for him for President, and I refuse to validate him in ANY way.

[joshdawg]

27. I agree!

He doesn't even deserve to be called Mr. Just call him trump. No caps.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

54. That's the nicest thing I will say about him. We need to come up with something better.

“The rapist” “the felon”. Something that would really piss him off.

[LearnedHand]

55. I mean, since his new memecoin is called $Trump

I think STRUMP is a perfect nickname for that blob of festering maggots.

[Wonder Why]

80. Mump to recognize his co-president.

[benfranklin1776]

17. You're damn right ✊🏼

Motherfucking traitorous insurrectionist is an illegitimate placeholder there in violation of the 14th Amendment. He is not and never should be referred to as President.

[yellow dahlia]

76. Hear! Hear!

[odins folly]

18. Shitbag has and will remain my go to

As for bringing myself down to their level, bullshit. I said to my wife just today, we are empathetic people, except for assholes, rapists, traitors, nazis, child/ spouse/ animal abusers...

Fuck those people, i refuse to normalize or turn the other cheek or see things from their perspective...

[jmbar2]

19. Everyone is stressed by this new administration. That was their plan.

Grant your fellow DUers a lot of grace and tolerance as we all process this new world we live in. Don't turn on each other.

I believe trolls may be amongst us.

[hamsterjill]

43. No one is turning on each other.

We are just expressing the reality of what is instead of hiding from it.

Each person can do as they feel.

[Mike 03]

52. I agree with you, and it's remarkable how some people cannot

perceive the irony in their own posts.

[yellow dahlia]

77. Good points

[Dorothy V]

20. The orange monstrosity doesn't hold office, it infests it. It has no humanity, no respect for anybody, it regards only

itself, all of which should be obvious to anybody. It should receive all the respect it shows others, which is absolutely zero.
It has no respect even for those it appears to admire, like Putin for instance. It views even he as something to be used, and is too stupid to realize it is the one being used.
It is worse than a bully, for under the surface a bully is still a human, something it has never been.
This is indeed a war. The orange monstrosity and its supporters and minions are a plague, like the most virulent bacteria and viruses. Treat them accordingly, with no mercy.
Be strong. Be brave. We can do this, each in whatever capacities we have.
We dare not fail.

[Lucky Luciano]

21. "His Lowness" is how I refer to him...though I usually don't capitalize it.

[LiberalLovinLug]

22. Unfortunately the Democratic Party is still stuck in the past

We desperately need fighters who are elected. Younger and more new media savvy. Popular with the people. But at the first opportunity to put AOC as the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, they get scared and put in an old white guy that nobody’s heard of.

So sick of it. I’m older now but I think it’s way way past time to hand the party over to a new generation

[SpankMe]

23. Funny thing

I post about how Dems have to be bigger assholes and grow a spine, and I get flamed by the "we go high" crowd, or the post gets jury-hidden for "bashing Dems".

I agree with the spirit of the OP. Dems are going to have to shift from being "nice" and "demonstrating that we are the party of maturity" to forceful and relentless activism.

Repubs have engineered their way to where they are by breaking traditions and doing what they do simply because they legally can. Example: Holding Obama's SCOTUS pick for over 10 months until after an election to get a Repub into a SCOTUS seat, and then rushing Amy Coney-Barret through 2 weeks before an election to get ANOTHER Repub into a SCOTUS seat.

But when we suggested urging Sotomayor to retire so Biden and a Dem Senate could get in a younger left-leaning justice in place for a longer term SCOTUS seat hold, we were flamed for betraying Sotomayor and thwarting traditions. Now, if Sotomayor's health deteriorates further in the next 4 years, we're going to be reduced to a 7-2 SCOTUS.

The excuse is that if we do it, that'll give Repubs an excuse to do it. Well, Repubs are doing it anyway. I don't see why we shouldn't throw the throttles to the firewall and do what needs to be done.

Sometimes you stick to tradition and decorum. Sometimes you employ rough strategy. Now is the time to be rough.

[Linda ladeewolf]

28. I have no problem with it.

I wish to hell democrats would grow a spine, toughen up and be ready to brawl. That’s the only thing these (foul word) understand. As for giving them an excuse, they don’t need one. They just do it.

[hamsterjill]

44. Well said!

Kudos!!!

[FB47243]

29. If you're gonna fight

If you’re going to fight.

Then dont fight to win.

You must Fight to annihilate your opponent.

[58Sunliner]

30. It's not elegant or erudite, he's a pos to me.

[Wild blueberry]

31. Our Democratic Party must be an OPPOSITION party now

Fight.
Fight nationally, fight locally, fight the bullies.
By the way, I'm calling him Frump.

[KPN]

33. II agree. It's hard for me to see things coming to a conclusion, for or against us, without a fight. It would

be foolish turn one's cheek if that is so especially when, for some -- perhaps many, life is in the balance. While to some, that may seem like hyperbole, I sure wouldn't bet my life on it.

[3catwoman3]

37. If the office holder does not respect the office, and he does not...

...then I see no reason why I/we should.

[Different Drummer]

38. My current derisive nickname for the White House tenant is...

donzilla (note the lack of capitalization).

[Celerity]

39. naivety is our proper British English spelling, FWIW

[GoodRaisin]

40. I'll call him by what he is.

Dick Tater.

[LoisB]

41. IT "ain't" shyte to me, especially not my President.

[LiberalArkie]

42. But when is he going to bring back Leaded Gas for the cars? And eliminate all the air quality standards.

Regular gas is (if available any where) was a lot cheaper than this leaded stuff. Hire more Americans and bring back the coal electric plants. Every neighborhood needs one so their don't have to rely on that thing called the "GRID" whatever that is.

[NoMoreRepugs]

45. Be proud, be the bigger asshole and fight to get our Democracy back.

[DingleBerryNW]

46. I will always refer to him as the orange anus

[Vinca]

47. Well said. Enough with the kumbaya.

[StarryNite]

48. Agreed

I've called him a lot of things most recently I've been calling him the felon. He deserves no respect, never did, never will.

[DENVERPOPS]

49. Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The dems have been taking the "High Road" while fighting a party that is utilizing Guerrilla Warfare.

The Dems leadership has been walking down the jungle path, swatting at mosquitoes, and has been oblivious to the herd of charging elephants...........pun intended........

[usaf-vet]

50. If I had been 2000 mile closer. To the building worksite. And 30 years younger. I would have been there with tool.....

..... belt on asking what's next Jimmy!

He was a great humanitarian and it would have been a true gift and honor to have been holding the other end of the tape measure.

[generalbetrayus]

51. I like word play, so I call him Orange Julius Caesar,

a combination of the drink Orange Julius and the dictator Julius Caesar.

[pfitz59]

53. I call him 'the orange pustule'

because he always looks ready to explode.

[muriel_volestrangler]

56. To get "naïveté" in a thread or post title, you need the HTML codes for accented characters

use
na& iuml;vet& eacute;
but without the spaces after the "&"s.

[hamsterjill]

60. Thanks.

I don’t have the patience but I appreciate you sharing.

[Buddyzbuddy]

57. I'm starting to think Diaper Don, which is how I refer to him,

might be a too endearing term.

[Hassler]

58. He didn't put his hand on the Bible. I'll play

MAGA Stoopid and claim he's not legitimately president.

[hamsterjill]

61. Love this!!!

n/t

[Aussie105]

59. The Office of President deserves respect.

But the person who wears the title needs to earn respect, just like anyone else with a title.
Any title doesn't automatically imbibe the wearer with intelligence, respect or your cooperation.
That is a dumb-person type of fallacy.

Think of the past Presidents you liked and respected, and you will be judging on their personality and actions, not the title.

There needs to be a big gap between the words 'President' and 'Trump' before I'm comfortable with that.
(Some swear words interposed between the two words helps.)

[Sparkly]

62. My favorite is, "It's the arrogance of the LEFT that got him elected!!"

"If people like you didn't look down your noses and criticize him... didn't keep investigating him... didn't call his supporters wrong for supporting him... didn't call him a criminal... didn't call his voters stupid..."

I say, people who commit crimes - you know, criminals - are investigated, prosecuted, and usually found guilty (if the courts don't give them special treatment).

When accused of calling them names, I say it must be in my nature - I'm told I am a commie liberal Marxist libturd feminazi coastal elitist (who's either too lazy to work and "sucks on the government teat" for "freebies" OR who's a "hot-tub lounging, chardonnay-sipping, latte-drinking, intellectual).

In any case, supposedly it is BECAUSE they're looked down upon by "people like me" that they vote for Republicans. I liken that to, "You callin' me STUPID? You wanna see STUPID? Hold my beer and watch this!" Then they vote for rightwing nuts, proving they're absolutely stupid. Is the point supposed to be, "See what you made me do?" Or "I'm not stupid?" Cuz either way, it's extremely stupid.

NO respect from me.

And they've thrown Decorum out the window. Not sure what Democrats should do about that.

[TBF]

63. I don't care what we call him - but he needs to go.

He and that entire group of oligarchs who are next going to try to take Social Security - they will try to color it up by privatizing (which means Wall Street types have full access to charge all the fees they want - it will be a disaster.

[Hope22]

68. He will always be T or TSF to me.

TSF can mean many things so I feel OK with using it. That being said GWB was and always will be *. I’m good with a one stroke symbol forTSF,😁🤣😁🤣 Let’s do it!!!

[kimbutgar]

69. I can't write his name anymore so I use emojis that best describe him🍑💩🤡!

I think those emojis effectively describes him.

[damifino10]

70. Respect my ass

In the world I grew up in, over 80 years ago, respect had to be earned not just labled.
Orange jello will never have my respect.

[Orrex]

71. I will continue to call him "the festering orange prolapse" until his great-grandchildren are dust

[yellow dahlia]

72. Hear! Hear!

I have NEVER called him president. I have always called him the grifter. I sometimes called him the Grifter in Chief, back in 2026. I now call him The Fucking Felonious Grifter.

The problem with people like him - is it is difficult for the "rest of us", because we have different ammo and wear and different uniform...and are playing on a different field. We need to adapt.

[struggle4progress]

78. As long as we're not saying "Gulf of Mexico" but "Gulf of America"

maybe we can also say "Asshole Trump" instead of "President Trump"

[Six117]

79. That treasonous illegitimate POS is no President

The text of our Constitution is crystal clear.
It deserves no respect.

Fuck the bullshit

[WokeAintWhatIAm]

81. Getting the Pace of Race we're running...

[Aussie105]

82. We need a new Bingo card!

As befits a rogue dictator and an incompetent administration, there will be many changes fostered onto us, with appropriate language to paper over the destructiveness of those changes.

eg
'In the light of current affairs' = we are going to cut something.

'In hindsight, the J6 people were patriots' = Damn the Justice System, they are my type of guys!

'Tariffs will empower the economy!' = Expect prices to go up.

'This new appointee is inexperienced but perfectly suitable to the job' = He kisses ass bigly!

'Elon is my tech adviser and right hand man' = Elon bought the election for me. Ego almost as big as mine!

etc

[Jack Valentino]

84. He's Not MY ABOMINATION !!!!

Would you "give respect" to a rabid dog ?? No.................

[AllaN01Bear]

85. my late mom

said they took school boards , city councels . library boards . chounty super visors . etc and local dog catcher if that applys ,we meed to do same .(my words)i aint going to fight dirty as we do we are lower than them and i dont stoop to no one .

[IzzaNuDay]

87. I'm calling him dotard (thank you Kim Jung Un)

Best description of him! He’s not my president!

[punguin54]

88. I am not allowed to call him, at least on DU, a certain name.

Rhymes with punt.

[Baron2024]

89. Dictator Trump

Dictator Trump is probably the best thing to call him. It is accurate and it is not a joke. Jokes will not stop these people. Trump is a President only in name. What he is, in fact, is a Dictator who is trying to gain total control over the government and establish in America a Christian Fascist Police State. That is what is happening.

[Baron2024]

90. Also

The OP is right on target. Trump and his gang of MAGA criminals are threatening our lives and the freedom of our nation. We have the moral right and the responsibility to defend ourselves. We must be as ruthless in the defense of our nation as Trump is towards innocent people. It is time to fight fire with fire.

[BlueMTexpat]

91. Since the 2024 election,

I have called him Felon Scumbag (the Scumbag label inccorporates a LOT of awfuls, all of which he has earned).

Since his pardon of the Jan 6 insurrectionists, I have added Traitor. His pardon of the criminals he inspired is an implicit admission that he led them.

Everyone in the world knows exactly who I mean when I say "Felon Scumbag Traitor" and it keeps his crimes alive and present, IMO.

I will NEVER EVER use the title "President" for such a total POS. I gave him a brief chance in 2016. Never again.

Anyone on DU who tells me to "respect" or "work with" him, will immediately go to my "Ignore" list.

[Ferrets are Cool]

94. No respect for an unreformed felon and rapist. Anyone who respects a rapist can KMA.

[Dem4life1234]

95. I have never called him president

He does not warrant such a term.

[moonshinegnomie]

96. we need to adopt a page from the maga morons

dont give them teh slightest benefit of teh doubt. Ive been saying for years that the dems need to abandon trying to comprimise with fascists. fight hard,fight dirty and fight to win.

[orleans]

99. i googled and that poster said

"if you want respect for Democratic Presidents, you give respect to Republican Presidents. We are a Democracy, the political pendulum always swings in healthy Democracies. We understand and respect that.
I do not like President Trump, but our Democracy did vote him in"



my first thought was the "brandon" thing -- "let's go brandon" crap
seems to me those republican asswipes didn't show biden a lot of respect

like you said: "respect, my ass"
i agree. fuck trump. fuck his cult. fuck them all!

[hamsterjill]

100. My, you are resourceful!!! LOL

Glad you agree with my thinking.

I believe that what we’ve been seeing in the last few days with all that the asshole has done is much a “test” case to see just how much he can get away with. Nothing is stopping him and he’s only going to be emboldened to do more unimaginable things. Heard today that he’s made it where some health sites are barred from sharing information, etc. (I’m paraphrasing badly but don’t have access to provide a link just now) with the public until February 1st.

Things are only going to get worse until someone or some thing forces (emphasis on that word)…forces him to stop.

[Prairie_Seagull]

101. No mas benefit of the doubt.

no mas.

[Rose Siding]

102. Ever and only the felon.

period

[OldBaldy1701E]

103. Hear Hear! (n/t)

[LeftInTX]

104. If a post is in breaking news, the rules are that it must be quoted from the source word for word.

I don't see anyone calling him "President Trump" in General Discussion. Sometimes articles are posted and the article is quoted.
But that doesn't mean posters feel comfortable with the "president"......

[hamsterjill]

105. Please see reply #99.

In this instance, that was not the case.

[ismnotwasm]

106. Who said that? Gross

He’s a destructive, entitled asshole.

[Conjuay]

107. yeah, send him over to my house, I'd love to show him my ass.

[rasputin1952]

108. I have a Tee-Shirt (from the W days)...

"Not My President".

I wear it here in Nebraska (yes, it is cold!) and I get a LOT of smiles and thumbs up!