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deminks

(11,327 posts)
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 02:20 PM Jan 23

WAPO: GOP members sent rape threats to Cassidy Hutchinson after her testimony

https://bsky.app/profile/joshtpm.bsky.social/post/3lggl4ipoy22k

wait what

so GOP members of Congress sent rape threats ("sexually explicit texts&quot to Cassidy Hutchinson after her testimony and now GOP leadership is afraid they'll come out?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/01/23/cassidy-hutchinson-lawmakers-texts/

MAGA Mike told his goons not to subpoena Cassidy for fear these texts will come out?

I say bring them out anyway, now. We need to know who the predators are.


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WAPO: GOP members sent rape threats to Cassidy Hutchinson after her testimony (Original Post) deminks Jan 23 OP
Gaetz was bored that day. Lemons UK Jan 23 #1
Gaetz wouldn't even make my list of suspects Attilatheblond Jan 23 #2
She's too old for him Renew Deal Jan 23 #11
Where's the rape threat? HereForTheParty Jan 24 #59
Stop it -- they are threatening her with sexual assault obamanut2012 Jan 24 #61
" they are threatening her with sexual assault" HereForTheParty Jan 24 #69
Sexual texts that are unsolicited and graphic are sexual harassment and abusive. 58Sunliner Jan 26 #77
She's still one of them. So, even after they abused her, Maru Kitteh Jan 23 #3
That's such a weird phenomenon angrychair Jan 23 #4
Stockholm syndrome nt newdeal2 Jan 23 #14
Trama bonding. Irish_Dem Jan 23 #24
But she didn't vote for him this time. Wiz Imp Jan 23 #28
I think she's plenty smart and just afraid to make any moves. LastDemocratInSC Jan 23 #34
I may have to copy this to an easy-to-find location, since this confusion seems to be widespread. soldierant Jan 23 #45
Interesting pov. electric_blue68 Jan 24 #50
Not original with me, although I do change some of the terms soldierant Jan 26 #75
I wouldn't call her "one of them." Straw Man Jan 27 #81
Note the plural "memberS/lawmakerS" RockRaven Jan 23 #5
I am surprised by Josh Marshall; there is no mention of rape threats in the article. n/t demmiblue Jan 23 #6
WAPO archive link (no paywall): Buns_of_Fire Jan 23 #7
Thank you for that link, Buns_of_Fire! skylucy Jan 23 #9
Thanks for this! ShazzieB Jan 23 #20
Threatening to rape a witness may not always be covered by the debate clause struggle4progress Jan 23 #8
Ha, are you sure? There are no longer any rules that Rs follow chicoescuela Jan 23 #48
Of course they did malaise Jan 23 #10
Wonder if the G.O.P. RAPE threats will somehow be leaked BoRaGard Jan 23 #12
Note that hostile work environment does not apply to them JT45242 Jan 23 #13
I would suspect moniss Jan 23 #15
Jordan is a good guess. I would rate MTG as a top suspect too. Wiz Imp Jan 23 #29
Your're maybe onto something with MTG. nt moniss Jan 23 #37
More republican values ? republianmushroom Jan 23 #16
Publish them. Name and shame. EllieBC Jan 23 #17
It has Rebl2 Jan 23 #30
Yes, release their names NOW!! Quakerfriend Jan 23 #18
Never Rebl2 Jan 23 #32
TY I'm surprised Bezos Fascist Fuck WaPo Cha Jan 23 #19
You can be sure someone moniss Jan 23 #38
WTF. Release the names AND the threats! dchill Jan 23 #21
The GOP controls women by threatening to rape them. Irish_Dem Jan 23 #22
Unsurprising. (nt) Paladin Jan 23 #23
She's very brave. rubbersole Jan 23 #25
Republicans are degenerate slobs! Bluethroughu Jan 23 #26
Absolutely Rebl2 Jan 23 #27
There is no bottom for the GOP sakabatou Jan 23 #31
Perverted goons. Joinfortmill Jan 23 #33
We need goons from the left Dem4life1234 Jan 23 #35
Scum of the earth, republicons. spanone Jan 23 #36
When did WaPo become aware of this information? Raven123 Jan 23 #39
Bring it out. Just bring it. "We need to know who the predators are." Rec x 1000. Evolve Dammit Jan 23 #40
The Republican Party has become a terrorist organization. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 23 #41
Nothing to see here, folks.. Permanut Jan 23 #42
Read the full article karin_sj Jan 23 #43
They wouldn't call her as a witness choie Jan 23 #44
Degenerate goons indeed Alice Kramden Jan 23 #46
So Mike Johnson is a conspirator covering up a crime, the crime of sexual harassment. Makes him criminal too. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 23 #47
What the ever-loving fuck is wrong with them? Initech Jan 23 #49
Then why don't they name them? There has to be Democrats on the January 6th committee privy to that. JohnSJ Jan 24 #51
Sure, i favor having that sub-committee investigate the investigators and the witnesses. Jit423 Jan 24 #52
An Organized Crime Party would do this. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 24 #53
This thread frustrates me, from the headline on down and throughout AZJonnie Jan 24 #54
+1 onenote Jan 24 #55
The WaPo article never mentions rape threats: "sexual texts from members who were trying to engage in sexual favors" Celerity Jan 24 #57
This. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 24 #58
He also states, without evidence, that the texts were sent after her testimony. demmiblue Jan 24 #65
Can't put it past MAGA, they're accepting the evil that good may come uponit7771 Jan 24 #67
True but there's a difference between saying 'it's possible' and 'it's factual' AZJonnie Jan 24 #73
Well I am going out on a limb and will say this has never happened to you. 58Sunliner Jan 26 #78
I'm sorry, and yes, what you said is true. However, the OP's headline is still bullshit. AZJonnie Jan 27 #80
They didn't want her to testify because she would expose the abuse related to her testimony. 58Sunliner Jan 27 #82
The WaPo article doesn't back up Marshall's claim of rape threats. Celerity Jan 24 #56
Standard MAGA male tactic--not surprised at all. Revolted, but not surprised. Timeflyer Jan 24 #60
It is rape, and I don't understand why some DUers aren't getting and are snarking at the OP obamanut2012 Jan 24 #62
Some of us "aren't getting" the OP because its misleading and unsubstantiated onenote Jan 24 #64
+1 Celerity Jan 24 #66
We don't have any idea what was actually said though AZJonnie Jan 24 #74
Absolutely. It's astounding. 58Sunliner Jan 26 #79
Terrorists Use Sexual Violence Kid Berwyn Jan 24 #63
Be proud gqp..be proud. Hateful SOBs PortTack Jan 24 #68
This is on a "need to know" basis... dchill Jan 24 #70
What. A. Surprise. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 24 #71
Republicans won't care. Kablooie Jan 24 #72
WTF is wrong with these psychos? This is not how normal humans behave! Initech Jan 26 #76

Attilatheblond

(5,035 posts)
2. Gaetz wouldn't even make my list of suspects
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 02:23 PM
Jan 23

He relies on young and naive women for his pleasures. Rape and threats of rape are tools of angry, violent, usually cowardly men.

HereForTheParty

(568 posts)
59. Where's the rape threat?
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:22 AM
Jan 24

It's appalling, but I don't see anything that is a threat to rape her.

HereForTheParty

(568 posts)
69. " they are threatening her with sexual assault"
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 01:14 PM
Jan 24

Honest question - where do you see that in the article? A "sexually explicit text" doesn't mean a rape threat.

58Sunliner

(5,167 posts)
77. Sexual texts that are unsolicited and graphic are sexual harassment and abusive.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 10:12 PM
Jan 26

No one in the media has seen the actual texts. We are forced to rely on the repubs telling us they were "soliciting". Sounds like perp talk to me for abusive threatening, and demeaning harassment. Every woman knows that this type of unsolicited comment or communication is a thinly veiled threat when given in response to her testifying against one of them.

Maru Kitteh

(29,493 posts)
3. She's still one of them. So, even after they abused her,
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 02:24 PM
Jan 23

She still considers herself a conservative Republican. So I guess she’s not smart as many may have hoped.

angrychair

(10,083 posts)
4. That's such a weird phenomenon
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 02:32 PM
Jan 23

How can people like Pence or Hutchinson get actual violent threats from their own Party, not just from randos on the street but people they know personally, that are gop leaders, yet still remain unwaveringly loyal? It's literally like a cult. That is the only possible explanation.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,935 posts)
34. I think she's plenty smart and just afraid to make any moves.
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 04:58 PM
Jan 23

She's in a bad spot at a bad time dealing with malevolent political operatives. It's likely she is concerned about her future in more ways than just being an outcast in her party.

soldierant

(8,152 posts)
45. I may have to copy this to an easy-to-find location, since this confusion seems to be widespread.
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 08:32 PM
Jan 23

Left and right are not actually political positions, but economic ones.

There is anothe dimension to politics - it is Autocracy and Democracy. In order to easily compare this with lrft and right, you can think of this dimension as up and down and make a graph of it. Any one can be anywhere on that graph

Hutchinson is on the good side in terms of form of government. She is on the wrong side economically. So is Liz Cheney, incidentally.

While I too feel emotionally that left and democracy go together, and right ans autocracy go together, that's just a feeling. The fact is that they don't necessarily.

This combination may feel weird, but it isn't. There are many people in this category. If we are going to meet them where they "are at," we need to learn to separate the two in our minds.

We don't need to get them to move left. We need to get them to realize the difference between the two divides, and that they are already on the right side of one of them, and that that one was what this last election was actually about.




soldierant

(8,152 posts)
75. Not original with me, although I do change some of the terms
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 08:59 PM
Jan 26

because I think a few are confusing here: politicalcompass.org.

There was a period in the 1990s when we almost got it - we had candidates saying they were "fiscally conservative and socially liberal." Almost. But that language went away, roughly when the "fidcally conservative" candidates failed to persuade enough Republicans to vote for them.

Straw Man

(6,831 posts)
81. I wouldn't call her "one of them."
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:47 AM
Jan 27

There's a difference between being a conservative Republican and being a MAGA fascist thug. The former is regrettable; the latter is abhorrent.

RockRaven

(16,783 posts)
5. Note the plural "memberS/lawmakerS"
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 02:44 PM
Jan 23

Not just a "bad apple" or "lone wolf"

It is just who they are as a party.

BoRaGard

(3,839 posts)
12. Wonder if the G.O.P. RAPE threats will somehow be leaked
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 03:36 PM
Jan 23

G.O.P. is really into the heinous rape thing. What absolute pigs they are.

JT45242

(3,087 posts)
13. Note that hostile work environment does not apply to them
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 03:44 PM
Jan 23

I'll bet Gaetz know who they were.

EllieBC

(3,411 posts)
17. Publish them. Name and shame.
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 04:05 PM
Jan 23

Stop playing nice with these people. We always take the high road and where has it gotten us?

rubbersole

(9,043 posts)
25. She's very brave.
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 04:43 PM
Jan 23

Kinda pulled back the curtain on J6. tsf probably has her on the list right under Liz Cheney.

Rebl2

(15,450 posts)
27. Absolutely
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 04:47 PM
Jan 23

She should release them herself. On second thought no. They will hunt her down if she did that.

Dem4life1234

(2,340 posts)
35. We need goons from the left
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 04:58 PM
Jan 23

I mean it, we need equally nasty goons from the left to be just as nasty to these scumbags.

Raven123

(6,306 posts)
39. When did WaPo become aware of this information?
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 05:04 PM
Jan 23

Why is it coming out now?
Yes, it should all be made public.
Where is the Ethics Committee?
Sad to think these threats weren’t reported to the Police (I am assuming it wasn’t), I can certainly understand why Hutchinson felt she couldn’t report them. Says volumes about the GOP.

Permanut

(6,797 posts)
42. Nothing to see here, folks..
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 05:17 PM
Jan 23

Their Grand High and Exalted Mystic Rapist does it, so no problem.

karin_sj

(1,151 posts)
43. Read the full article
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 07:39 PM
Jan 23

And this jumped out at me:

"Before that meeting, a Johnson aide told Loudermilk’s staff that multiple colleagues had raised concerns with the speaker’s office about the potential for public disclosure of “sexual texts from members who were trying to engage in sexual favors” with Hutchinson, according to correspondence produced at the time that detailed the conversation."

Calling threats of rape "sexual text from members trying to engage in sexual favors" is next level gaslighting. She definitely needs to name and shame, and why this hasn't already been done is a travesty. The people that did this need to be removed from congress.

choie

(5,047 posts)
44. They wouldn't call her as a witness
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 07:44 PM
Jan 23

because she'd tell the truth, which would go against their lying narrative.

Bernardo de La Paz

(52,296 posts)
47. So Mike Johnson is a conspirator covering up a crime, the crime of sexual harassment. Makes him criminal too. nt
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 09:12 PM
Jan 23

JohnSJ

(97,264 posts)
51. Then why don't they name them? There has to be Democrats on the January 6th committee privy to that.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 12:11 AM
Jan 24

Jit423

(796 posts)
52. Sure, i favor having that sub-committee investigate the investigators and the witnesses.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 12:12 AM
Jan 24

Now the witnesses can tell it all to the MAGAs who refused to listen the first time.

AZJonnie

(262 posts)
54. This thread frustrates me, from the headline on down and throughout
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 02:15 AM
Jan 24

If you look at the BlueSky message, the situation is that Josh Marshall is responding to an excerpt from the WaPo article that mentions 'sexually explicit texts' and he takes the liberty of translating those three words for all of us as being synonymous with 'rape threats', with no source whatsoever, just out of the blue. Then everyone here reads it and believes what Marshall has said is fact, rape threats were made. We don't know that, nor, I would wager, does Josh Marshall. Frankly it's pretty much click-bait.

The fact that there were sexually explicit texts sent her way, in that context, is already terrible (and possibly criminal) sexual harassment. We KNOW that happened, from the actual WaPo story. Is this not bad enough? With all the other horrors going on, I personally don't really need to see any hyperbole making me feel even more stressed and pissed. JMHO, fwiw, friends

Celerity

(47,715 posts)
57. The WaPo article never mentions rape threats: "sexual texts from members who were trying to engage in sexual favors"
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:04 AM
Jan 24

The vermin Rethugs wrre hitting on her, not threatening rape, according to the article. No idea why Josh Marshall injected rape threats into it.

demmiblue

(37,990 posts)
65. He also states, without evidence, that the texts were sent after her testimony.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 11:14 AM
Jan 24

If anything, I would have assumed that they were sent during her time in the Trump administration. Again, though, it is not specified.

I am totally not surprised that this thread has so many recs. That is all I'm saying about that.

58Sunliner

(5,167 posts)
78. Well I am going out on a limb and will say this has never happened to you.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 10:23 PM
Jan 26

Women who have worked out in the labor force know exactly that this type of behavior, especially when given in response to testifying against their leader, challenging abuses in the work place, etc..., is meant to be threatening and demeaning. They don't have to say 'I will rape you". They phrase it in vulgar, sexually explicit, and demeaning ways and the threat is a given. I'm sorry you don't understand that. It's pretty simple really. I too am disappointed by this thread. The number of people who can't grasp the reality of what these men were attempting to do to her, the means they used, and what women cope with is disheartening.

AZJonnie

(262 posts)
80. I'm sorry, and yes, what you said is true. However, the OP's headline is still bullshit.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:26 AM
Jan 27
"WAPO: GOP members sent rape threats to Cassidy Hutchinson after her testimony" is a lie. Not only did the WaPo NOT say "rape threats", but it didn't say when they supposedly happened. She'd been working for Trump for awhile, and these advances could have been before she was acting against Trump, for all we know from what the article states. I'm sorry if I prefer to live in a world where my fellow liberals don't make up unsubstantiated spin and then falsely attribute it to the Washington Post. I don't disagree with the point you're making about the nature of the world here, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't admit what we know and don't know, based on what the story actually says. Say "in my opinion, these were probably effectively rape threats", the way you just explained. I wouldn't have taken a single issue with that approach, nor would anyone else on this board. Or, you say "Josh Marshall: GOP members sent rape threats to Cassidy Hutchinson after her testimony". I.E. the actual source

58Sunliner

(5,167 posts)
82. They didn't want her to testify because she would expose the abuse related to her testimony.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 06:24 PM
Jan 27

I doubt they would have sent those texts while she was employed at the Whitehouse. They could be sued for harassment if that was the case, but as a private citizen, it's a very different scenario, she would not have grounds to sue for sexual harassment. I'm certain they understood the difference, even if you don't. No one saw the texts, unless Marshall was allowed to view them off the record and that is a possibility. We only have republican men telling us that they don't want them made public because it would look bad. Which to my mind answers the question, how bad were they? I don't have to imagine, I've lived it. These are despicable, misogynistic, cretins. I have no doubt she was sent violent/demeaning pornographic clips and explicit texts that were intended to threaten her into silence.

Celerity

(47,715 posts)
56. The WaPo article doesn't back up Marshall's claim of rape threats.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:56 AM
Jan 24
Before that meeting, a Johnson aide told Loudermilk’s staff that multiple colleagues had raised concerns with the speaker’s office about the potential for public disclosure of “sexual texts from members who were trying to engage in sexual favors” with Hutchinson, according to correspondence produced at the time that detailed the conversation.

Additionally, a member of Johnson’s staff told Loudermilk aides that Hutchinson, an aide to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, could “potentially reveal embarrassing information,” according to a separate email reviewed by The Post and corroborated by two additional people.

obamanut2012

(28,171 posts)
62. It is rape, and I don't understand why some DUers aren't getting and are snarking at the OP
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:59 AM
Jan 24

Unwanted and unsolicited sexual "favors" is a threat of sexual assault. "Come suck my dick, Cassidy," or similar is a sexual threat of rape/sexual assault to shut a woman up. It has been done for forever. Period.

It is scary and humiliating, and shame on anyone refusing to understand that and downplay any of this.

onenote

(44,921 posts)
64. Some of us "aren't getting" the OP because its misleading and unsubstantiated
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 10:53 AM
Jan 24

It indicates that the Post has reported that repub members sent "rape threats" to Hutchinson. But the Post article doesn't say that. Josh Marshall says that. And if he has substantiation for that claim, he should put it forward. Maybe it will turn out to be the case, but I'm not blindly accepting Josh Marshall's word for it when he doesn't offer any substantiation.

So you can keep your shame. I still prefer to live in a world where unsubstantiated claims are exactly that -- unsubstantiated claims.

AZJonnie

(262 posts)
74. We don't have any idea what was actually said though
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 03:29 PM
Jan 24

Your argument is based on a hypothetical text. And in fact, we don't even know the texts happened in the context of her giving testimony. They could've been any at time, perhaps long before anyone could've known that she 'needed to be shut up' because she'd later testify against Trump If WaPo had stated that what you theorized was actually texted to her, during or soon after her testimony, then I doubt anyone here would downplay it. Although I think you'd see arguments made that she definitely should've reported it at the time, to the world, including from myself.

Kid Berwyn

(19,000 posts)
63. Terrorists Use Sexual Violence
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 10:04 AM
Jan 24

Republicans and NAZI gangsters also use violence to achieve political aims.

What a coincidence!

Kablooie

(18,826 posts)
72. Republicans won't care.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 02:12 PM
Jan 24

They’ve become completely amoral and are willing to accept any crimes done to further their power.
Exactly like all other, criminal dictators have done in history.

Initech

(103,324 posts)
76. WTF is wrong with these psychos? This is not how normal humans behave!
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 09:11 PM
Jan 26

Rape threats and death threats are NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOR! It is utterly psychotic!

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