Chris Hayes: Feel deep in my bones that the backlash to all of this is going to be enormous.

[Dennis Donovan]

Chris Hayes
‪@chrislhayes.bsky.social‬
Feel deep in my bones that the backlash to all of this is going to be enormous. Not sure how it will manifest and when it will explode into view, but confident it’s coming.
January 25, 2025 at 5:00 PM

https://bsky.app/profile/chrislhayes.bsky.social/post/3lglvvotthk2u

[XanaDUer2]

1. Me too nt

[liberal N proud]

2. It can't come soon enough

[regnaD kciN]

3. It may be too late already...

...now that we have a SecDef who believes it's the military's duty to carry out a "Christian Crusade" against the "domestic enemy" right here on U.S. soil.

[bucolic_frolic]

4. I'm not optimistic at all

Trump will demolish the federal government by April 1. Everything is paused so the Feds are spending little money. Then he announces income tax rebates April 15 and declares victory. We are cooked.

[Bread and Circuses]

11. Similar Opinion

I feel the shiteshow is gaining speed and the Felon will keep makes drastic cuts and changes. Some will be stopped by lawsuits, but many will go through.

For example, I’m waiting for he senate and house leadership to tell him that he can’t fire independent inspector general . If it was Obama, they would have been all over Fox screaming.

I expect that the Felon will move fast with the takeover and by summer - it will be mostly done. Thus, enabling him to ravage our institutions and rob everyone and everything.

[appalachiablue]

48. Blitzkrieg

[dickthegrouch]

102. Those lawsuits will take years to resolve though

And by then the worst of the damage will be irreversible

[rampartd]

13. maybe not income tax rebates

he has already (1st term) frozen fica collections. do that long enough then he can stop payments to us useless eaters , what a win for the oligarchs.

[Kid Berwyn]

72. "Culling the Herd"

DU 2021, when we had BOTH houses of Congreff….

Growing body of evidence shows GOP has a paramilitary wing



https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215237077

[Jilly_in_VA]

83. Remember those armed Black dudes marching near Stone Mountain near Atlanta a few years back?

They're on OUR side, and they're not the only ones. It ain't gonna be pretty when they face Meal Team Six and the Gravy Seals.

"Oh they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
and they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go..."

[rampartd]

89. "down the mississippi to the gulf of america"

[defacto7]

101. I'd like to laugh at that but I can't for some reason. n/t

[FirstLight]

15. It's quickly becoming a free for all ...

everyman for himself, cuz once the militias and the military get moving, we're definitely cooked I am not optimistic in any way. I think we've been raised to expect it to a degree... there's a reason post apocalyptic vibe everywhere.

(What we need is an actual coalition, is it the Anonymous, Occupy, what is it? how do we connect and stand firm on our principles when everyone is a target or runing scared?)

[travelingthrulife]

81. The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. George Washington.

[Paladin]

5. The backlash damn well OUGHT to be enormous.

However bad we thought trump's return would be, it is proving to be markedly worse. In just its first few days. If you're not upset and scared shitless, you're not paying sufficient attention. Let the backlash happen---the sooner the better.

[LisaL]

6. I dunno.

Trump skates on everything. Seems there is nothing he can do to turn MAGATs off.

[Paladin]

33. No comment. (nt)

[Mariana]

105. Exactly. The MAGAts will never turn on Trump.

It's a religion, and religious beliefs aren't rational, by definition.

[allegorical oracle]

73. Am no big fan of J. Carville, but he may have a point about letting Trump just "punch himself out."

[Paladin]

82. As always, I think Carville is full of shit.

Awaiting the possibility that trump will self-destruct at some point in the future is the pinnacle of brain-dead wishful thinking. Democratic leadership needs to be working non-stop on actions to stymie the evil measures that trump is implementing right now. Plans for coast-to-coast national protests need to be in place---now, while we still have a country in which to protest. Leaving the whole process to trump, keeping our fingers crossed that trump will help us out---fuck that noise. Just the sort of lame-ass advice I'd expect from a loser like Carville.

[edhopper]

7. Why would you think that

After all he did as President and after, half the country still supports him. By now we must see that they will never turn against him.

[LisaL]

9. Yep, they will support him even if he screws them up.

I wonder if they figured out by now they are not getting those cheap eggs any time soon.

[edhopper]

22. fixed it

Yep, they will support him even WHEN he screws them up.

[Dem4life1234]

60. Hatred tastes too good for them not to support him

[Rebl2]

84. Maybe it

will when it starts hurting them personally.

[edhopper]

85. It did

His response to COVID killed people. He left office with record unemployment. They don't care.

[Rebl2]

88. Older

maga on social security and Medicare will be angry if republicans make cuts to those two things I guarantee.

[edhopper]

92. I think they will cut them

For younger people and let us oldsters keep it.
So they can say fuck everyone else, like they just did.

[MadameButterfly]

99. I wonder if cutting it for young people

will get them the money soon enough

[edhopper]

100. When did that matter?

When did they ever off balance the tax cuts?

[MadameButterfly]

110. I think Trump realizes that raising the deficit

again goes agains't his message, and can't be blamed on Covid this time.

Plus, he also has to finance the cryptocurrency reserve.

[edhopper]

111. Trump has no message

his ignorance of economics is monumental. He will do things that contradict themselves and not care about the results.
His explanations of tariffs for instance, is beyond stupid.

[MadameButterfly]

112. All true but he along with Republicans

like to carry on about the deficit even though they raise it more than Dems.

This is a guy who has never had to answer for his actions economically in his own life, and he is bringing that to the country and the world. If bankruptcy laws and then Putin hadn't bailed him out he'd have had to face it. Instead he gets to use us as a piggy bank.

Yeah, I think my cat understands tariffs better the Trump.

[Mariana]

106. He's not going to cut their benefits.

He'll slash the future benefits of younger people, disabled people, etc. The elderly MAGAts will cheer.

[qazplm135]

8. I dunno

Maybe. I don't know if it's a guarantee though

[IcyPeas]

10. I dont see/feel it. The only way would be for every single republican

To come out en masse to say "NO" I mean.. Senators, congressmen/women, judges, lawyers, media....

As long as they all kiss up to him in fear of being primaried or whatever I don't see a backlash.

I have wondered if a few of them would have the guts to do this, would others follow? It's peer pressure for them too.

[bucolic_frolic]

12. Has it happened in any of the GOP controlled state legislatures? No. /nt

[mokeyz]

36. it's tough to be primaried

when there are no elections

[wnylib]

63. Why look for a backlash from MAGAs?

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If there is backlash, it will come from the general public.

[muriel_volestrangler]

14. People are not good at admitting they've been wrong

so I don't think there will any "enormous" backlash.

[Faux pas]

16. Me too

the hump and minions are trying their best bombardment strategy. They're going to be gone much sooner than they expect. I say that because I think most of the shit is illegal.

[Prairie Gates]

17. The backlash will be put down with brutal police repression and MAGA paramilitaries

The denialism about where we are is just sad at this point.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

27. There is denialism on the regime side, too, which makes it easy for them to overplay and get shoved back

... by an enraged populace, if we get there.

[Prairie Gates]

29. I think that's certainly true

Good point.

[bdamomma]

58. I think

we will see that enragement, soon, and I would like them to as you say, "Get shoved back".

Never

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson123

[dweller]

18. Reading that

I’m not sure Chris means it will be a ‘good’ backlash … it could be much the opposite
🫤



✌🏻

[republianmushroom]

19. Chris, it is building.

[johnnyfins]

75. The spring is coiling, ever tighter, day by day.

[elleng]

20. I tend to agree,

SO AGREGIOUS that WE the People CANNOT enable it to continue.

[obamanut2012]

21. I tend to agree -- the Bell Riots redux

[allegorical oracle]

23. Didn't he take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution? Seems like he's already

defied that oath by jumping on the 14th Amendment.

Can't imagine he won't get blow back from his older voter base when they start paying more for their prescriptions. Hope we get ourselves lined up for the next election and take back the Congress. Then we might be able to really impeach him.

[HUAJIAO]

45. What next election?

[FakeNoose]

24. Buyer's remorse

[struggle4progress]

30. I didn't know the gun was loaded

[JoseBalow]

40. Ay dios mio!

(0:05)

[ailsagirl]

25. I'm surprised things are hitting the fan-- so soon!!!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

26. It should, but when and how violently will tRump-Musk-Vance deal with it?

[struggle4progress]

28. An underwater landslide can create a nice unexpected tsunami

[Irish_Dem]

31. There is no data to support the "deep in his bones" feeling.

We see people supporting Trump or saying nothing.

A few people speak out.
We see people who speak out in public being targeted with dire consequences.

[FakeNoose]

49. Aw come on, it's just an expression

Chris Hayes is one of the good guys. Let's cut him a break, even though it's slightly over the top.

There ... I used another dumb expression.

[Amaryllis]

32. Backlash to "all of this." All of what? WHich part?

[RussellCattle]

34. I feel that way too. The MAGA crowd wants to tear down institutions, dismantle the staus quo and create.....

.......chaos that leads to the end of the regulatory state. They got their messiah in Trump and managed to get him elected, even though their views are decidedly in the minority. When they see how this chaos is hurting them personally, some of them will jump ship and go over to the other side, where a majority of Americans will be increasingly appalled at our new reality. Like Chris Hayes has said, the backlash "is going to be enormous".

[Marcuse]

35. The backlash won't affect his zero sum greed base.

[Joinfortmill]

66. Repeat that a million times.

[Javaman]

37. yes it will. history is like a pendulum.

the harder the swing one way, the equal and opposite effect will happen when it swings back.

it won't be pretty.

it will make the reign of terror look like a picnic. they only had the guillotine back that and a few hold over tortures form the Spanish Inquisition (no body expects them)

the shit that can be done now, scares the shit out of me.

[Exp]

38. I'm thinking that lots of back-stabbing will be on display. So much dishonesty can not forward most of the goal that

TSF has in mind.

The MSM will eventually wake up.

[FakeNoose]

50. You might be giving the "MSM" too much credit, my friend

Pretty much every American cable network, news conglomerate and major web forum is owned by a one-per-center. I know there are a few exceptions here and there, but the point is, almost all of them are as happy as pigs in shit right now. The ones that aren't happy are planning to keep quiet and hope for the best.

The Executive Branch, Congress and the judiciary are all in on it, for the most part. We just have to find a way to ride this out for the next four years.

[wiggs]

86. 'How do you know they'll print it?' Says Cliff Robertson to Robert Redford in

Three Days of the Condor.

Not only has media been captured, add to the list the judicial system and most of the federal govt post-purge, and most of the states.

[Joinfortmill]

67. Independent media is growing fast.

[tishaLA]

39. Chris has more faith in our fellow Americans than I do

Other countries are going to have to get involved in some way because we are too divided to mount a serious counteroffensive.

[La Coliniere]

41. Maybe. When people start feeling some stress

from the inevitable increases in the price of food, not just eggs, medicine, building materials etc. etc. etc. will the general public push back with any meaningful urgency. There may also be some blowback from his other dangerous decisions like pulling out of the WHO and the Paris Climate Accord if there’s another global pandemic or cataclysmic natural disaster that affects the US. I don’t know the form it will take if there is blowback, but we should be ready for the felon to declare martial law at the first stone cast. I don’t see the public participating in general strikes because this country is so fractured, sadly.

[kimbutgar]

42. He going to go too far and there will be a major incident that starts a massive pushback

I already saw in my SF newspaper that a group is starting a petition to make California an independent country and they are furious how the 🍑💩🤡said he would make aid conditional on Newsom kissing his big fat a$$.

[Cha]

43. I sure as Shit Hope!!

[Arthur_Frain]

44. Yeah, and Mueller will be coming for a public arrest of tfg soon too.

I’ve seen this movie one too many times. I’m not waiting up this time.

[Bluethroughu]

46. February 14 SICK OUT EVERYBODY STAY HOME.

Sick of the anti-American policies
Sick of the dictatorship
Sick of the income inequality
Sick of the discrimination
Sick of the wrecking of our commons
Sick of the wrecking of our institutions
Sick of paying more taxes
Sick of paying more to corporate greed
Sick of wars

We Love our country and we want it back from corporate rule and oligarchy!

We want peace, strength in our institutions, and power for the people!

[DallasNE]

47. That Is A Long Ways Off

Trump dominates the media as his poll numbers continue to climb. Misinformed people will stay misinformed and it takes a long time for a crack to show and attitudes to change. MSM is scared shitless of a Trump/MAGA boycott for true fact-checking

[cilla4progress]

51. Dear goddess

One can only hope!!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

52. This is how you say "go F yourself sideways with a porcupine" in inspector general speak.

This move was illegal

Link to tweet

[Self Esteem]

53. There will not be a backlash. People have to stop expecting one.

If Trump ordering his supporters to attack the capitol didn't end him - nothing will. The only hope is that he tanks the economy and things get so painful that Americans turn on him over that. But they're not going to turn on him because of any policy or action. I think anyone who's half paid attention to the last few years can tell you that.

Americans don't care about other Americans. They only care about their situation and maybe those closest to them. They would sell you out for cheaper eggs and lower costs.

[LisaL]

55. The only way they are getting cheaper eggs is

if Trump starts laying the eggs himself.

[Self Esteem]

57. Eggs will eventually go back down...just as they did in the middle of Biden's term.

We'll see where Trump is approval wise when that happens. It's not going to be for a while but they'll eventually go back down like they did in 2023:

[LudwigPastorius]

61. I think that depends on the course of the H5 avian flu outbreak than general inflation.

Right now, the only way to keep it from spreading is for farmers to destroy infected eggs and flocks.

[returnee]

54. Felt deep in my bones...

…Harris/Walz was going to win.
Didn’t happen. Can hope and pray for the backlash Hayes feels.

[Joinfortmill]

68. You may have been right. The whole story on that hasnt been told

[bobalew]

104. Actually Harris did win...

Except for the possibility that TFG & Eloon his buddy did a really bang up job of CHEATING. When did Chump ever get anything without cheating?

[Sibelius Fan]

56. Wishful thinking. America is getting exactly what it wanted when voters elected tRump.

[Dem4life1234]

59. It's been a week

And I'm damn irritated, how can this go on for four years?

None of his EO has actually benefitted the average American.
.

[Strelnikov_]

62. Majority in this country are sleepwalking

When their day to day lives start to be negatively impacted in a significant way, things they have always taken for granted are gone, they will wake up.

And, those who are to blame will be clear to them.

We are where we are today because the social safety nets constructed and maintained over the years have facilitated the political nihilism of the sleep walking majority.

To paraphrase Churchill, this is their ‘finest hour’.

[HereForTheParty]

64. Not from this congress

with all due respect to your bones.

[Joinfortmill]

65. Me, too. Stay strong. Only watch pro democracy MSM

[Hotler]

69. False hope? Wasn't something similar said about Garland delivering justice years ago.?

maybe not.

[Prairie_Seagull]

70. How long before the 60 vote threshold rule in the Senate is changed?

When tiny hands EO policies trickle down and people are forced to pay... attention, I 'think' the rubber will hit the road.

I thought I knew this country well enough. Pendulum swings back and forth.

This is something else.

Edit: We need both houses. I know, easy to say.

[TommieMommy]

74. I hope so 🙏 can't wait for him to go down forever and we can all live in peace 🙏💙💙💙💙

[krawhitham]

76. I've heard that for 9 years

[paparush]

77. CDC and Bird Flu

Mark my words.

Trump ordered the CDC to stop reporting on Bird Flu because he’ll use the coming pandemic as his excuse for declaring martial law and suspending the Constitution. He wasn’t lying when he said you’ll never have to vote again.

[Gore1FL]

78. I fear this will end in fire. nt

[MontanaMama]

79. The comments on Chris' thread

don’t support his feeling. Democrats in that conversation overwhelmingly feel abandoned by Dem leadership in the House in particular.

[99MainSt]

80. I hope it's not just wishful thinking

I usually agree with Chris. Hopefully there will be a strong backlash but predicting one requires better evidence than that which resides in his bones.

[Mr. Mustard 2023]

87. I have the same feeling.

MAGA may be biting off more than they can chew, or pissing off more people than they can intimidate at one time.

[Mz Pip]

90. I don't see it.

Trump supporters seem fine with what he’s doing and even when prices skyrocket they will just say it’s a sacrifice we all have to endure to make America great again.

Every despicable thing he’s done hasn’t made much difference. He’s more popular than ever.

[pfitz59]

91. As Trumpism hits more folk in the pocket book

their anger will boil. Sadly, much of it will be skillfully redirected toward 'the other'. "It's not Trump's fault your Medicaid went away! Libtards did it!"

[Kablooie]

93. It's probably good that...

All this is happening at once.
Trying to change everything immediately becomes glaringly apparent.
If this had been done over a period of years it might not get the same attention.

He creates an explosion on the first day and a backlash will have to be huge to counteract it.

[CaptainTruth]

94. Me too.

[stollen]

95. Perhaps Americans need to get a good taste

of fascism.

I tried my best to cocoon them, but it was not to be.

[BannonsLiver]

96. One of the best "woe" threads since the election

Chef’s kiss in the responses.🤪

[ratchiweenie]

97. It all scares me.

[HarryM]

98. If WWIII doesn't break out first. N/T

[Magoo48]

103. A massive, consistent, ever growing backlash is exactly what is needed. For 4 years

Americans in general have shown an unwillingness to be inconvenienced for any reason, no matter how profound, as exemplified by our reaction to climate catastrophe. The grassroots must be willing to sacrifice consistently, courageously when needed, and massively.
May we collectively be inconvenienced now for as long as it takes. Our freedoms are on the line.

[4catsmom]

107. I expected Backlash on Nov 5

But we didn't get it. Don't underestimate how brainwashed his cult is. most of the true believers will live in a mud hut and eat rabbit dung if that's how they end up, and they'll still say they are better off than they were under Biden.

[Aussie105]

108. There is already a backlash.

The first step has been achieved - people knowing or coming to realise Trump isn't good for the country.

The second step is much harder. People working out what to do about it.
Complaining to your neighbour or anyone who stops to listen won't achieve anything.

The third step is even harder - coordinating resistance into an effective action plan.

One thing is for sure - waiting out the 4 years or hoping the Grim Reaper visits Trump soon, isn't an effective option.

[PatSeg]

109. And it's going to be very messy

A lot of people are going to get hurt.