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KentuckyWoman

(6,936 posts)
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 01:50 PM Sunday

EDITED ! -- I said "tough shit" to a neighbor today.

Last edited Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:11 AM - Edit history (1)

All my neighbors are on medicare or advantage plan. It's a senior village. One of the most outspoken of the MAGA supporters who lives here was crabbing at me this morning about the cost of her insulin. She filled Dec 27 - $10. Yesterday? $782.

TOUGH SHIT popped out before I could stop it. Loud enough for everyone to hear.

We had a short conversation after that. I did back track it a little because I really wanted her to see that her selfishness hurt her too. She got what she asked for. "Illegals" and "welfare queens" in need of insulin got cut off from a fair price. If no one benefits, that includes her.

I'm telling you, the MAGA geezers around here are not happy. Prices are going up, not down. The noise about invading Canada has them all upset. Firing inspectors and stopping agencies from informing us about health and safety issues has everyone on edge around here.

They got what they asked for. TOUGH SHIT.


EDIT TO ADD

Special thanks to Mrs. Toad - you mentioned a formulary change as a possible reason, since it turns out that provision for insulin was not affected. Too late today, but I'll mention that to her tomorrow. That is a great call out. THANK YOU.

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EDITED ! -- I said "tough shit" to a neighbor today. (Original Post) KentuckyWoman Sunday OP
👍🏼 Clouds Passing Sunday #1
This is only the first week RainCaster Sunday #53
Benefits enid602 Sunday #62
Yes, he is implementing his agenda PatSeg Sunday #73
Project 2025 bdamomma Sunday #83
Any student of history (or even current events for that matter) PatSeg Sunday #88
Project 2025 had no controls RainCaster Sunday #99
That's certainly how it appears PatSeg Sunday #115
Project 2025 will go down in history... RainCaster Monday #118
Sadly, as "How we ended modern civilization for no good reason" PatSeg Monday #125
Tell them to start making signs and protesting. Bluethroughu Sunday #2
You shouldn't apologize to her. LisaL Sunday #3
When my insulin dependent brother dies from not being able to get insulin Attilatheblond Sunday #9
That did happen to my brother. murielm99 Tuesday #137
next time ask her who she voted for Bird Lady Sunday #39
That is the response my sister and I BigmanPigman Sunday #92
Maybe she just didn't hear all the things he had been saying... Jack Valentino Sunday #104
sorry no pass Bird Lady Sunday #114
Yes, they should be. No sympathy for people who COULD be engaged and educate themselves but actively choose not to. Karasu Monday #122
They say they listen to every word trump says. No quarter for these monsters. travelingthrulife Monday #128
Let me guess..she was white,right? BattleRow Sunday #77
Tough tough titty said the cat to the kitty. We used to say. Walleye Sunday #4
😂 NorCalBlue Tuesday #140
FAFO. The G.O.P.'s national diabetes-profiteering-rampage now starting BoRaGard Sunday #5
Removing cap on insuli price will end my brother's life. He won't be able to afford staying alive. Didn't vote Trump Attilatheblond Sunday #6
i'm so sorry oldtime dfl_er Sunday #63
Thank you. I am running out of siblings and losing my YOUNGER brother is gonna hurt Attilatheblond Sunday #65
Ely Lilly supposedly Linda ladeewolf Sunday #95
Walmart has humilin N & R for cheap IbogaProject Sunday #84
She wanted to hurt others Keepthesoulalive Sunday #7
the rain doesn't fall on one man's house WhiteTara Sunday #35
Did he do away with the $35 insulin somehow? doc03 Sunday #8
Yes. An executive order Day One as promised Arazi Sunday #72
Is $35 insulin for seniors already history? SheltieLover Sunday #10
Yes SARose Sunday #12
Omfg! SheltieLover Sunday #24
But the Billionaires need more tax cuts, so nobody above an age to be worked for their profot can be allowed to live Attilatheblond Sunday #64
Exactly SheltieLover Sunday #68
They are deemed "useless eaters" ...eugenics...then euthanasia. BattleRow Sunday #75
Did a trump EO hike insulin prices that much? How did they rise so ridiculously high so suddenly? brush Sunday #11
Yes it was one of the executive orders.nt. drray23 Sunday #14
Didn't remove the insulin cap, but removed lower prices on a slew of other drugs. Wiz Imp Sunday #29
What total horse shit! calimary Monday #119
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Sunday #34
By the way you can tell her that she hasn't seen nothing yet. LisaL Sunday #13
Die XanaDUer2 Sunday #15
The GOP wants older people to die to free us their assets to be used by younger people. TheBlackAdder Sunday #32
They want old sick disabled ppl XanaDUer2 Sunday #37
Killing off us seniors will improve the housing market as well. Conjuay Sunday #85
$35 for insulin for those on Medicare is part of the inflation reduction act. That is not repealed. 33taw Sunday #16
Ty XanaDUer2 Sunday #38
Probably her insurance company changed the brand that is eligible for the $35 cap. Ms. Toad Sunday #46
THIS IS SO HELPFUL !!! KentuckyWoman Tuesday #135
Maybe your neighbor lied? WarGamer Sunday #17
Thanks for setting the record straight on this. ShazzieB Sunday #56
Your posting just makes it clear to me (and perhaps others) that make sure when you are posting, that your SWBTATTReg Sunday #94
It's always someone else to them. Blue Full Moon Sunday #18
They got what they voted for and Now Cha Sunday #19
I'm not fond of saying "Tough Shit" or FAFO. Vogon_Glory Sunday #28
I'm saying 'tell me I'm wrong' Marthe48 Sunday #52
Since I'm not on Facebook, I'm not going to Vogon_Glory Sunday #111
Veteran organizations protested the VA hiring freeze and Trump made an exemption. They need to speak up to their 33taw Sunday #20
Seriously!? stollen Sunday #21
Executive Order 33taw Sunday #26
Do you have a link? vanlassie Sunday #30
He didn't change the price of insulin. He Eliminated the $2.00 for generic drugs for people on Medicare. 33taw Sunday #36
And the countries will undoubtedly find others to trade with..... Butterflylady Sunday #22
I admire your restraint. Evolve Dammit Sunday #23
Post removed Post removed Sunday #25
An astute first post. Disaffected Sunday #31
What's e-cred? liberalla Sunday #55
Message auto-removed Name removed Sunday #59
No. Not true. Nanuke Sunday #27
My wish is that thinkingagain Sunday #33
Maybe she needs to call Medicare to have them investigate. chowder66 Sunday #40
Most likely it was a formulary change. Ms. Toad Sunday #41
That was very informative, thank you. crosinski Sunday #69
Soon, coffee will also be unaffordable. alarimer Sunday #42
High quality coffee comes from a lot of countries, not just Colombia FakeNoose Sunday #71
Starbucks supposedly gets 100% of theirs from Colombia alarimer Sunday #74
Unfortunately, Vance would be no better - if you-know-who dies. No Vested Interest Sunday #90
I think MAGA mostly hates Vance. alarimer Sunday #110
Starbucks will have a fit if coffee goes up 50%. And I'm pretty sure they donate to politicians. BComplex Sunday #91
"You own this" OR jayschool2013 Sunday #43
The stupidity and ignorance of Magats never lets up. ananda Sunday #44
It should still be in effect per this article. Both Trump and Biden claim that they capped it at $35 for seniors. LiberalArkie Sunday #45
I could be a little more complicated like all medical billing. mackdaddy Sunday #47
Is this post real? Woodwizard Sunday #48
Yup. Take care of yourselves. It's gonna be a rough ride. Joinfortmill Sunday #49
GOOD FOR YOU!! AverageOldGuy Sunday #50
Unfortunately, everyone else got what they asked for too. yellow dahlia Sunday #51
in a surprising way - yes. enjoying the ride. Nimble_Idea Tuesday #139
"Tough shit" was more than appropriate CanonRay Sunday #54
Biden's bigger health care initiatives, such as a $35 monthly cap on insulin, a $2,000 annual out-of-pocket cap totodeinhere Sunday #57
There is an old saying in British politics anamnua Sunday #58
Well, Trump got drunk with power, and is abusing his power, and lost the plot. Initech Sunday #60
Tough shit indeed!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sunday #61
They knew TSF was a lying piece of shit and still voted for him. iluvtennis Sunday #66
I've been using "who cares?". My wife told me I was saying it louder these days, I replied - "I know." marble falls Sunday #67
I love it LilElf70 Sunday #70
MAGAts will complain. And cry 'not fair!' Aussie105 Sunday #76
Karma's a beeyotch 4catsmom Sunday #78
Ditto! choie Sunday #79
Their bdamomma Sunday #80
Not just insulin. Several other drugs that had been capped are now up. JanMichael Sunday #81
2 I take True Blue American Sunday #87
Going to get worse on the healthcare front. paleotn Sunday #82
I guess it's progress that they're noticing this. yardwork Sunday #86
I know a nurse who works at NIH. Beck23 Sunday #89
A person working at NIH and voting for Trump is like LisaL Monday #132
She's still got a $2000 cap, right? uberblonde Sunday #93
Is that the sound of FAFO I hear? tclambert Sunday #96
When people complain but something Trump does, I ask for whom they voted. TomSlick Sunday #97
Meh. Concepts of thoughts and prayers for them. /nt spudspud Sunday #98
Message auto-removed Name removed Sunday #100
Be careful what you vote for, you might just get it Raven123 Sunday #101
Trump::: I don't care about you either. Norrrm Sunday #102
Yep. jeffreyi Sunday #103
Stupid fucks Blue Owl Sunday #105
Tough $h1t, FAFO. There I fixed it for you. n/t aggiesal Sunday #106
I'm waiting to have the same reply sellitman Sunday #107
I wouldn't have said "Tough sh1t" Morbius Sunday #108
We need to always give them the specifics of WHY they Ilsa Sunday #109
of course the hurt will not stop with magats. barbtries Sunday #112
Me: "You voted Republican. You got what you voted for." Grins Sunday #113
Surely they're tough enough to handle a little truth! Or maybe not... dchill Sunday #116
Fucking idiots. Sky Jewels Sunday #117
Holy shit! I didn't know Felon47 canceled the $35 restriction on insulin. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Monday #120
I don't think he did Skittles Monday #121
Thank you. I have diabetic friends, and I was concerned. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Monday #131
Trump doesn't give a damn about that mountain Skittles Monday #133
I'm not JustAnotherGen Monday #123
Still capped by law on medicare. Progressive dog Monday #124
I take another approach: Hieronymus Phact Monday #126
"Goose-stepping morons like yourself should try *reading* books instead of *burning* them!" FailureToCommunicate Monday #127
my response justsomeguy01 Monday #129
Aww, Ain't That a Shame! apeshot Monday #130
Oh my dear heaven... THIS sure exploded. KentuckyWoman Monday #134
Here in Texas TygerrRRT Tuesday #136
yup Nimble_Idea Tuesday #138

PatSeg

(49,789 posts)
73. Yes, he is implementing his agenda
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 04:17 PM
Sunday

at lightning speed. Can't say he's a slacker; he's fulfilling many of his campaign promises.

The best advice I ever gave my children was, "Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it".

I still can't believe these idiots bought his BS again!

bdamomma

(67,219 posts)
83. Project 2025
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 04:49 PM
Sunday

goons are executing these illegal sick manifestos. This will not have a good outcome.

We must not stay silent.

PatSeg

(49,789 posts)
88. Any student of history (or even current events for that matter)
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 04:55 PM
Sunday

knows how this story ends. These "goons" are going to create a world that even they won't want to live in. It's a lose-lose for everyone. I'll never understand such people. It is truly a serious mental disorder.

RainCaster

(11,841 posts)
99. Project 2025 had no controls
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 07:08 PM
Sunday

It looks like any company or lobbyists that wanted could add their wishes into that document with no oversight. Certainly there was never a look at the practicality or morality of what they are doing.

PatSeg

(49,789 posts)
115. That's certainly how it appears
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 10:57 PM
Sunday

I didn't really expect too much morality from these people, but you'd think that at least they would be practical. In the long run, they will lose more than they will gain.

RainCaster

(11,841 posts)
118. Project 2025 will go down in history...
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 02:06 AM
Monday

It will be seen in all it's unedited glory, for all time.

LisaL

(46,910 posts)
3. You shouldn't apologize to her.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 01:53 PM
Sunday

She got what she voted for. It's not like they weren't warned about all this. That they screwed themselves up is one thing. But they screwed the rest of us by voting for Trump and I will never forgive them that.

Attilatheblond

(4,969 posts)
9. When my insulin dependent brother dies from not being able to get insulin
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 01:56 PM
Sunday

those people would be wise to stay the fuck out of my way.

Bird Lady

(1,969 posts)
39. next time ask her who she voted for
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:53 PM
Sunday

And then ask her how is that working out for her? Then tell her he told you who he is and what he was going to do and yet she voted out of hate and a feeling of superiority designed to hurt people. Stupidity and hatred is terminal, she earned her pain. No sympathy

BigmanPigman

(52,515 posts)
92. That is the response my sister and I
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 05:28 PM
Sunday

are going to say when we hear anyone bitch about tRump in the future. She already said it to an old friend and it worked. The friend was silent after that since she knew my sister's point was spot on.

Jack Valentino

(1,603 posts)
104. Maybe she just didn't hear all the things he had been saying...
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 08:41 PM
Sunday

Not everyone is nearly as tuned in to politics as we are---
but they should be.

Some people near the end of the campaign didn't even know that Biden was not running.

Bird Lady

(1,969 posts)
114. sorry no pass
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 10:36 PM
Sunday

for willful ignorance.
none deserve anything but what they will get. Which is nothing

Karasu

(439 posts)
122. Yes, they should be. No sympathy for people who COULD be engaged and educate themselves but actively choose not to.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 05:30 AM
Monday

BattleRow

(1,299 posts)
77. Let me guess..she was white,right?
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 04:41 PM
Sunday

Surely those folks wouldn't feel the brunt of Trump's rape and pillage.

NorCalBlue

(45 posts)
140. 😂
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:19 PM
Tuesday

Thank you for that one way trip back to 1978!!!! I had forgotten that one. Gonna start using it again!

BoRaGard

(3,715 posts)
5. FAFO. The G.O.P.'s national diabetes-profiteering-rampage now starting
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 01:54 PM
Sunday

"Ha ha. Keep on gobbling up those sugarbabies, you wrinkly old geezer Suckers.
Just shut up your complaining, and hand over your credit cards. Ha ha. Suckers."

- G.O.P. PharmaBros, Inc. (R)

Attilatheblond

(4,969 posts)
6. Removing cap on insuli price will end my brother's life. He won't be able to afford staying alive. Didn't vote Trump
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 01:55 PM
Sunday

When the call comes that he has died, I might be doing a bit more than yelling tough shit to the maga idiots.

oldtime dfl_er

(7,040 posts)
63. i'm so sorry
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 03:44 PM
Sunday

It's absolutely horrific. Many millions of innocent people will be harmed -- some to the point of death - by the morons who wanted to own the libs. There are no words.

Attilatheblond

(4,969 posts)
65. Thank you. I am running out of siblings and losing my YOUNGER brother is gonna hurt
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 03:52 PM
Sunday

Passive by nature, I am losing my filters mighty fast these days. Not much time left on my clock, so at a point, being law abiding has less appeal. Pretty sure I am not the only one.

There's gonna be a huge number of people with nothing left to lose and they will be a bit difficult to deal with for the law and order reliant Billionaire Class.

IbogaProject

(3,978 posts)
84. Walmart has humilin N & R for cheap
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 04:50 PM
Sunday

Not great but that is always availible. There are also two state consortiums working to make cheep insulin.

Arazi

(7,319 posts)
72. Yes. An executive order Day One as promised
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 04:16 PM
Sunday

He kept that one (and the one about being a dictator)

He’s reneging on the other “good” day one promises like “no more inflation!” and “cheap gas and groceries!” and “ending all wars!” etc etc etc

SARose

(1,058 posts)
12. Yes
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:05 PM
Sunday

One of his steakhouse menu executive orders - day one.

Soooo all you “special” MAGATs aren’t so special now are ya?

And, yes, people will die.

Attilatheblond

(4,969 posts)
64. But the Billionaires need more tax cuts, so nobody above an age to be worked for their profot can be allowed to live
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 03:48 PM
Sunday

brush

(58,593 posts)
11. Did a trump EO hike insulin prices that much? How did they rise so ridiculously high so suddenly?
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:02 PM
Sunday

Wiz Imp

(3,102 posts)
29. Didn't remove the insulin cap, but removed lower prices on a slew of other drugs.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:36 PM
Sunday
https://www.denver7.com/lifestyle/health/trump-executive-order-voids-biden-era-order-aimed-at-lowering-prescription-drug-costs

Trump executive order voids Biden-era order aimed at lowering prescription drug costs

By: Danielle Kreutter
Posted 8:13 PM, Jan 23, 2025
DENVER — There have been strong reactions to President Donald Trump's executive order that rescinded a Biden-era executive order aimed at lowering prescription drug costs.

Biden's order instructed the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to explore different ways to lower drug costs for Medicare and Medicaid programs. In response, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services announced a list of generic medicines that would be capped at $2.

That program was activated, and it's unclear if it ever will be now that the action has been voided by Trump. Denver7 reached out to spokespersons for the CMS and HHS, who said they are not responding to most media requests at this time.

“HHS has issued a pause on mass communications and public appearances that are not directly related to emergencies or critical to preserving health," the HHS spokesperson said in a statement. "This is a short pause to allow the new team to set up a process for review and prioritization. There are exceptions for announcements that HHS divisions believe are mission critical, but they will be made on a case-by-case basis.”


Response to brush (Reply #11)

LisaL

(46,910 posts)
13. By the way you can tell her that she hasn't seen nothing yet.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:05 PM
Sunday

Trump is just starting. Wait till she finds out that her benefits are also cut.

XanaDUer2

(14,958 posts)
37. They want old sick disabled ppl
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:51 PM
Sunday

To die too get us off ss and Medicare fill stop. Sorry this assholes meds went up but oh well. I'm confused bc i didn't realize this applied retroactivrly. No matter she ain't seen nothing yet

33taw

(3,007 posts)
16. $35 for insulin for those on Medicare is part of the inflation reduction act. That is not repealed.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:07 PM
Sunday

Ms. Toad

(35,796 posts)
46. Probably her insurance company changed the brand that is eligible for the $35 cap.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 03:01 PM
Sunday

They aren't required to cap all insulin - just a single brand. Since the last purchase was in 2024, the formulary probably changed Jan 1. She'll need to find which brand is now capped.

WarGamer

(16,071 posts)
17. Maybe your neighbor lied?
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:10 PM
Sunday
Biden’s bigger health care initiatives, such as a $35 monthly cap on insulin, a $2,000 annual out-of-pocket cap on prescription drugs and Medicare’s negotiating drug pricing provision weren’t affected by Trump’s executive actions Monday.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-reverses-biden-policies-drug-pricing-obamacare-rcna188555

ShazzieB

(19,149 posts)
56. Thanks for setting the record straight on this.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 03:40 PM
Sunday

My husband is an insulin dependent diabetic, and I was on the verge of panicking. Fortunately (for now, at least), we are on Medicare.

SWBTATTReg

(24,620 posts)
94. Your posting just makes it clear to me (and perhaps others) that make sure when you are posting, that your
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 05:42 PM
Sunday

facts are indeed true, and can be easily verified. In this case, fellow DUers came to the rescue, and stated what really happened.

Slow down and don't panic, and make sure what you are posting is in fact, true. Otherwise, you'll panic a lot of us, we don't want that.

Vogon_Glory

(9,649 posts)
28. I'm not fond of saying "Tough Shit" or FAFO.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:32 PM
Sunday

I was taught to believe that such language was vulgar. But saying “you got what you voted for” and (most often) “You’re old enough to know better” expresses my feelings about as well.


I’d like to say “PT Barnum was right,” but I doubt that most MAGA Magoos have the education or the smarts to understand what I was saying.

33taw

(3,007 posts)
20. Veteran organizations protested the VA hiring freeze and Trump made an exemption. They need to speak up to their
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:12 PM
Sunday

reps, senators and the POS himself.

33taw

(3,007 posts)
36. He didn't change the price of insulin. He Eliminated the $2.00 for generic drugs for people on Medicare.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:51 PM
Sunday

Congress is trying to repeal the inflation reduction act that sets the limit on insulin at $35.

Butterflylady

(4,094 posts)
22. And the countries will undoubtedly find others to trade with.....
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:17 PM
Sunday

Leaving us in the dust and who can blame them. When the shelves are empty, well , FAFO.

Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

liberalla

(10,189 posts)
55. What's e-cred?
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 03:39 PM
Sunday

Did you mean: What is e-credit?

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?
Thanks

Response to liberalla (Reply #55)

thinkingagain

(1,140 posts)
33. My wish is that
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:49 PM
Sunday

Those who are putting together lawsuits against this admin
Would file one regarding
Firing inspectors and stopping agencies from informing us about health and safety issues

Because to me Americans have the right to health and safety if things aren’t inspected, that could cause us illness or death for example
those in charge of America are not doing their job and should be blamed

chowder66

(10,046 posts)
40. Maybe she needs to call Medicare to have them investigate.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:55 PM
Sunday

Seems like it could be a mistake or she's lying to you.

Ms. Toad

(35,796 posts)
41. Most likely it was a formulary change.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:56 PM
Sunday

Companies are required to have a single insulin available capped at $35/month. Because the last purchase was in 2024 and formularies on 1/1/2025, my guess is that the brand she was receiving was the $35 one in 2024 - and a different one is $35 in 2025. But, unless your neighbor figures out how to get back to the insulin that costs $35, she will be paying far more than the $2000 cap on meds - since off-formulary purchases don't count toward the cap.

Trump's executive order does not change either the $2000 cap on Medicare drugs or the $35 cap on insulin. Those provisions are part of the law passed by Congress. Trump cannot undo a law by executive order.

alarimer

(16,741 posts)
42. Soon, coffee will also be unaffordable.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:56 PM
Sunday

Trump has threatened 50% tariffs on Colombia for turning back two military planes of migrants (because they were military planes and not normal commercial planes).

So your neighbors will be mad about that too. But at least a lack of coffee never killed anyone, as far as I know. Can always switch to tea for now.

People are now entering the "finding out" portion. I can't really laugh because there will be a lot of undeserved collateral damage. Some, like my dad, will not learn their lesson because, for now, my parents are fairly insulated from a lot of these things. For now.

FakeNoose

(36,394 posts)
71. High quality coffee comes from a lot of countries, not just Colombia
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 04:14 PM
Sunday

... although I will admit, Colombian arabica is my absolute favorite. Even Hawaiian coffee is quite acceptable.

I've accepted that changes are occurring in my life, and Chump is the cause of 98% of them. The sooner he dies or leaves office, the better off we will all be.

alarimer

(16,741 posts)
74. Starbucks supposedly gets 100% of theirs from Colombia
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 04:25 PM
Sunday

But certainly a lot of coffee does come from Colombia.

No Vested Interest

(5,219 posts)
90. Unfortunately, Vance would be no better - if you-know-who dies.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 05:08 PM
Sunday

Might be worse - Vance is a good speaker and could easily be elected Pres., in fact, apparently, some R's already have Vance in mind to follow you-know-who.

alarimer

(16,741 posts)
110. I think MAGA mostly hates Vance.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 09:24 PM
Sunday

He really isn't sincere in anything. He just sucks up to Trump.

I think MAGA hates anyone not Trump. I don't think they will follow anyone else.

BComplex

(9,218 posts)
91. Starbucks will have a fit if coffee goes up 50%. And I'm pretty sure they donate to politicians.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 05:23 PM
Sunday

I hope it was just a threat....like he threatened to lower the price of eggs and then didn't.

ananda

(31,136 posts)
44. The stupidity and ignorance of Magats never lets up.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 03:00 PM
Sunday

Now they're complaining because it's them getting screwed,
when it's been clear since 2015 that Donald Trump was
a selfish Nazi psychopath.

LiberalArkie

(17,006 posts)
45. It should still be in effect per this article. Both Trump and Biden claim that they capped it at $35 for seniors.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 03:01 PM
Sunday

Snip

The Inflation Reduction Act gave Medicare the power to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies for lower prices for certain prescription drugs beginning in 2026. It also caps insulin costs at $35 per month for Medicare beneficiaries and a $2,000 out-of-pocket annual cap for people enrolled in a certain drug plan.

Trump's reversal of the 2022 "Lowering Prescription Drug Costs for Americans" executive order does not necessarily impact measures in the Inflation Reduction Act.

Since Congress passed the Inflation Reduction Act, it's unclear whether Trump's executive action will have any impact on the legislation's drug price caps, according to USA TODAY.

However, experts in the pharmaceutical industry have voiced concerns that the reversal could impact drug prices by curbing research into cost-reduction models and suggests that reducing drug prices is not a priority for the Trump administration.

Snip

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/01/24/will-cost-of-insulin-increase-after-trump-executive-order/77881017007/

mackdaddy

(1,640 posts)
47. I could be a little more complicated like all medical billing.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 03:05 PM
Sunday

Before her passing I took care of my mothers bills including medical co-pays.

She was on insulin and other expensive blood thinners so the total was six to 8 thousand per year which made her in and out of the 'doughnut hole' and some limits even 4 years ago.

But a big one was at the beginning of the year the co-pays reset and started over. So some of what this woman may have seen was she had already paid the co-pays for last year for her December purchase and they now started over so the new price might include all the new copays. And these copays may be much much higher with changes to her medical plan and whatever Trump did by taking a meat axe to all the programs Biden had put into place.

Woodwizard

(1,101 posts)
48. Is this post real?
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 03:16 PM
Sunday

I cannot find any information on this already effecting billing.

I did find info saying it is not.

There is so much to find wrong that is happening embellished stories are not necessary.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-reverses-biden-policies-drug-pricing-obamacare-rcna188555

totodeinhere

(13,456 posts)
57. Biden's bigger health care initiatives, such as a $35 monthly cap on insulin, a $2,000 annual out-of-pocket cap
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 03:43 PM
Sunday

on prescription drugs and Medicare’s negotiating drug pricing provision weren’t affected by Trump’s executive actions Monday.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-reverses-biden-policies-drug-pricing-obamacare-rcna188555

Let me be clear. I oppose Trump and I voted for Harris. But at the same time I believe that it does no good in the long run to be spreading misinformation at DU.

Initech

(103,113 posts)
60. Well, Trump got drunk with power, and is abusing his power, and lost the plot.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 03:44 PM
Sunday

They voted for this shit. Let me go find the world's tiniest violin.

marble falls

(62,803 posts)
67. I've been using "who cares?". My wife told me I was saying it louder these days, I replied - "I know."
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 03:55 PM
Sunday

LilElf70

(654 posts)
70. I love it
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 04:10 PM
Sunday

when I read stories like this. The con man narcissist is finally getting called out. People are figuring out they got screwed, and didn't feel a thing. Isn't that a shame? That's how con men operate. It's too late now. Are ya ready for 10 bucks for a dozen eggs, 2 bucks an orange, head of lettuce 15 bucks? I hope you don't need a new roof anytime soon. It's coming. This whole con is about to blow up.

To those that knew this was going to happen, save now because inflation is going to go thru the roof. The weird part is these magat idiots still keep buying trump trading cards, fake guitars and watches, etc. I hope they find our what a scam this has been, before they go broke. Food is a necessity. Fake guitars are not. Gee,,,,,,, the stupidity is unbelievable.

Aussie105

(6,612 posts)
76. MAGAts will complain. And cry 'not fair!'
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 04:39 PM
Sunday

Dems won't - we were expecting it, they weren't.

Trump is going out of his way to make America a worse place to live, he is doing it out in the open, and is proud of it.

Invoking the 25th is just days away, if there is enough backbone in the corridors of power for that to happen.

Truth be told, Repug voters thought they were safe and Trump would only hurt the others, the D voters, the brown people, the gender fluid people, the book readers, the thinkers, the 'not us' people.

Trump told his biggest lie there, he hates everyone equally, and wants to hurt everyone in America. Except his immediate family and the boot lickers.
And even they need to watch their step.

No one knows how you voted, there isn't a database with your name and how you voted a pharmacist can look up and charge different amounts for insulin based on that. (If the story is true the price has shot up.)

JanMichael

(25,377 posts)
81. Not just insulin. Several other drugs that had been capped are now up.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 04:45 PM
Sunday

Fuck the ones that voted for Trump or didn't vote at all because of eggs or Palestine. Fuck them fuck them fuck them.

I really don't care anymore. Oh no I need Melonomas jacket...

paleotn

(19,816 posts)
82. Going to get worse on the healthcare front.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 04:46 PM
Sunday

Wait until they repeal the ACA this year. Don't think they aren't seriously considering it. And it's not just those in the ACA market and expanded Medicaid who will suffer. Since business models for the healthcare insurance industry take into account the ACA existing, going on 15 years now, this will cause major disruptions in the market and much higher premiums for everyone. Including those of us on employer plans.

Elmo isn't smart enough to understand that Americans don't react well to pain, economic or otherwise, and tend to lash out at even minor inconveniences. Violently sometimes. There's already a good deal of pain for many Americans. To the point that a huge number of them think Luigi Mangione is a folk hero. They're sowing the wind. I hope that Dems are smart enough to harness the whirlwind. Hubris and going too far are always their downfall.

Beck23

(310 posts)
89. I know a nurse who works at NIH.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 04:57 PM
Sunday

There are patients at NIH and nurses giving them treatments. This person is a big Trumper. I wonder how she feels now that the Trump administration has stopped cancer supplies to NIH.

LisaL

(46,910 posts)
132. A person working at NIH and voting for Trump is like
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 08:08 PM
Monday

a person who is cutting a tree limb they are sitting on.

TomSlick

(12,073 posts)
97. When people complain but something Trump does, I ask for whom they voted.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 06:36 PM
Sunday

If they voted for Trump, I tell them they got what they bought. Buyer's remorse can be tough.

Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Raven123

(6,252 posts)
101. Be careful what you vote for, you might just get it
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 08:00 PM
Sunday

And so far, they are getting exactly what they voted for.

Morbius

(181 posts)
108. I wouldn't have said "Tough sh1t"
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 09:13 PM
Sunday

I would have said "Remember you asked for this."

It sounds a little less harsh and sinks in better, in my opinion.

Ilsa

(62,418 posts)
109. We need to always give them the specifics of WHY they
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 09:14 PM
Sunday

are now getting screwed. She needs to know that $STrump rescinded the $35 max per month for insulin, and the pharmaceuticals are thrilled to raise that price. STrump was bought by Pharma and he gave them what they wanted, snd "to hell" with everyone else.

barbtries

(30,102 posts)
112. of course the hurt will not stop with magats.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 09:32 PM
Sunday

we are all in trouble.

and by the way boy it did not take long for big pharma to put the squeeze on. fucking predators with no soul only greed.

Grins

(7,992 posts)
113. Me: "You voted Republican. You got what you voted for."
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 09:46 PM
Sunday

Been repeating Mencken’s line for years:

” Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard”.

I would have said, “So sorry. But you voted Republican!”

“Tough shit” also works!

My fear as Republicans begin to make life miserable for those who voted for them - some damn Democrat will jump in and try to stop them. Don’t!!!! Only when it starts to hit them personally will they open their eyes.

All that Democrats have to say is: “Toldja’!!!”

Sky Jewels

(8,853 posts)
117. Fucking idiots.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 11:39 PM
Sunday

I hope the MAGA dumbshits suffer in misery.

And, yes, I know, everybody else suffers too.

120. Holy shit! I didn't know Felon47 canceled the $35 restriction on insulin.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 03:46 AM
Monday

Talk about giving a big "fuck you" to those who brought you to the dance. I don't need insulin, but my Mom did, and I hate to think of what would have happened to her without Tricare.

131. Thank you. I have diabetic friends, and I was concerned.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 08:02 PM
Monday

I'm still pissed off about reverting Denali's name to Mt. McKinley. It was a long battle to get the name changed to something Alaskans already used from that of a president who had no connection to the state. It was originally named by a gold miner who was fan-girling McKinley because he signed the Gold Standard Act into law. This legislation officially established gold as the basis for the U.S. monetary system.

On the other hand, the name "Denali" comes from the Koyukon Athabascan word meaning "the high one" or "the great one." Native Alaskans have used this name for thousands of years.

I imagine Felon47 acted because he undid Obama's success at restoring the mountain's name to its original one, which honored the traditions of Alaska natives. It was a racist twofer, screwing over two people of color with one stroke of the pen.

Progressive dog

(7,319 posts)
124. Still capped by law on medicare.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 08:45 AM
Monday

No, Trump did not get rid of Medicare’s $35 insulin cap
Despite online claims, President Donald Trump’s executive orders did not include removing Medicare’s $35 monthly out-of-pocket price cap, which is set by law.
https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/verify/medicare-verify/trump-insulin-35-cap-medicare-fact-check/536-c22d2c99-8384-415f-9d9e-bfadd507d323

FailureToCommunicate

(14,371 posts)
127. "Goose-stepping morons like yourself should try *reading* books instead of *burning* them!"
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:37 AM
Monday

- Indiana Jone's father (Sean Connery)

MAYBE MAGAs should have paid attention to what TSF was saying he would do once elected!

Now, it's "tough shit" for ALL of us.

apeshot

(6 posts)
130. Aww, Ain't That a Shame!
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 03:49 PM
Monday

I know where the trumpanzees can find Sympathy. It's in the Dictionary, between Suicide and Syphilis.

TygerrRRT

(4 posts)
136. Here in Texas
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:12 AM
Tuesday

Here in Texas, they still applaud everything he does. And he has the news so full of what they want that they distracted from the reality of high insulin or eggs. Because "Trump has done more for America in 4 days than Biden did in 4 years" is the slogan. I gave up on these people.

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