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milestogo

(19,802 posts)
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 07:46 PM Jan 26

How can you tell when someone with a warped personality has dementia?

Dementia symptoms include memory loss, confusion, and difficulty with communication and planning. Symptoms can also include mood changes, personality changes, and behavioral changes.

Memory loss Forgetting recent events, Forgetting names, Forgetting where things are, and Losing track of time.
Communication difficulties Difficulty finding words, Difficulty following conversations, Difficulty reading and writing, and Repeating questions.

Planning and organization difficulties Difficulty making decisions, Difficulty solving problems, Difficulty following a series of steps, and Difficulty performing familiar tasks.

Mood and personality changes
Anxiety, Irritability, Sadness, Fear, Loss of interest, Depression, and Paranoia.

Behavioral changes Inappropriate behavior and Agitation.

Dementia is a chronic condition that worsens over time. While there is no cure, medications and therapies can help manage symptoms


He has too many of these symptoms to name. He is certainly irritable and agitated. He's paranoid. He finds insult where none is intended. And he's making really stupid decisions. At what point does he get yanked off the stage?
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How can you tell when someone with a warped personality has dementia? (Original Post) milestogo Jan 26 OP
problem is Skittles Jan 26 #1
Trump is mentally ill with dementia and drug abuse. Irish_Dem Jan 26 #2
Drug abuse Mike 03 Jan 26 #6
Yes he was a big time cocaine abuser, ran with the Epstein crowd. Irish_Dem Jan 26 #9
Do you have a link for the cocaine abuse? Polybius Jan 26 #17
Ha ha. Irish_Dem Jan 27 #18
There's no Trump quote on record "bragging" about cocaine use, but plenty saying that he never used drugs Polybius Jan 27 #19
Trump bragged endlessly that his sexcapades were his equivalent of Viet Nam. Irish_Dem Jan 28 #24
google "trump studio 54" rampartd Jan 28 #26
Recall his appearances on Howard Stern's radio show, read about him in tabloids. His 1970s allegorical oracle Jan 28 #31
And he looks like he's absolutely miserable. Maybe he thinks making other people more miserable will relieve it. Walleye Jan 28 #28
Yes hurting other people makes Trump happy for a short period of time. Irish_Dem Jan 28 #32
They have orange skin. yourout Jan 26 #3
Follow Dumpy claudette Jan 26 #4
"difficulty with communication" Mike 03 Jan 26 #5
And now he's making horrible decisions that affect the whole country milestogo Jan 26 #7
I'm getting PTSD with TSF. no_hypocrisy Jan 26 #8
They get even harder to deal with. Intractable Jan 26 #10
My mother had some kind of dementia but she would go in and out of it milestogo Jan 26 #11
And that's because your Mom was a decent person before the dementia. Intractable Jan 26 #12
That would be another one of my relatives. milestogo Jan 26 #14
I'm so sorry for what you've been through Wicked Blue Jan 26 #13
Thanks for the hug. Intractable Jan 26 #15
I'm a nurse. I've worked in lock-down psych, TBI rehab, elder/disabled, and hospice care. Maru Kitteh Jan 26 #16
Those are some big bruises sakabatou Jan 27 #22
It doesn't take much with blood thinners at his age. Add in a poor diet, maybe even a fatty liver Maru Kitteh Jan 28 #35
Thanks for your views. Wondered if that bruise could've been the result of an IV? allegorical oracle Jan 28 #33
Yes, it very well could have been from a blown IV or blood draw. In fact, Maru Kitteh Jan 28 #34
I don't know, other than later stages sakabatou Jan 27 #20
Trump's personality has been warped for over half a century iemanja Jan 27 #21
Since 2017 I have had several bridge partners with dementia. ananda Jan 27 #23
Didn't he go to Studio 54 a lot too in the 1970 Norbert Jan 28 #25
There will be other signs in addition to Meowmee Jan 28 #27
Leaning forward when standing could be a sign of dementia. Emile Jan 28 #29
No. Maru Kitteh Jan 28 #36
Leaning forward posture can be a sign of Lewy body dementia. Truth Emile Jan 28 #37
Oh. "Truth" Maru Kitteh Jan 28 #38
Hatred and anger are his drugs now Walleye Jan 28 #30

Irish_Dem

(65,540 posts)
2. Trump is mentally ill with dementia and drug abuse.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 07:59 PM
Jan 26

He has both a narcissistic and sociopath personalty disorder.
Long time cocaine and adderall abuser.
Now he has dementia.

He is currently enraged all the time, out of control, paranoid, poor judgment
and makes no sense.

A long time criminal history, he is ruthless and dangerous.

Irish_Dem

(65,540 posts)
9. Yes he was a big time cocaine abuser, ran with the Epstein crowd.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 08:19 PM
Jan 26

Probably other drugs as well, and they lived fast and hard.

Now he does adderall to make himself seem more respectable?
But Don Jr and Musk are big drug users so I wonder if Trump joins them
from time to time.

Donjr and Musk always look high as kites in the videos.

Irish_Dem

(65,540 posts)
18. Ha ha.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 08:19 AM
Jan 27

See what you can find on google.
Listen to the videos from some of his staff from Trump's TV shows.
Look for all the pictures of Trump with Epstein and their parties.
The ones where Melania looks totally zonked out of her mind.

I assure you that Epstein was not running Bible classes and prayer meetings.

I don't know how much of these stories have now been scrubbed from the internet.

It is well known that in the 80's Trump was doing cocaine and screwing every female he
could get his hands on. He used to brag about it.

Polybius

(19,365 posts)
19. There's no Trump quote on record "bragging" about cocaine use, but plenty saying that he never used drugs
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:10 PM
Jan 27

Looking "zonked" at a party isn't hard evidence. You're right about him being a horn-dog though, that he has bragged about on Howard Stern. The amount of women that he had sex with is probably over 500.

Irish_Dem

(65,540 posts)
24. Trump bragged endlessly that his sexcapades were his equivalent of Viet Nam.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:50 AM
Jan 28

Trying not to catch VDs.

He brags about not drinking. He never brags about not doing drugs.

He admits to doing adderrall which is an upper, a stimulant.

Additionally Trump is a pathological liar.

I disagree strongly with you. We can see that DonJr looks high in every video we see of him.
Melania looks high in pictures in the 80's and some of her current photos don't look like she is
a model of sobriety.

Pictorial evidence is very useful in putting together a person's profile.
Also reports from people who know Trump from back in the 80's.

Also to think that Trump was running with Epstein and that crowd and thinking
he was not partaking of the deviant sexual trafficking and drugs going on is naive.

People here also defend Trump saying he is just a funny stupid buffoon and poses no danger
to anyone.

Trump is a vicious, ruthless psychopath. He is a mentally ill drug abuser, rapist and criminal.
I keep saying that underestimating Trump is very dangerous and foolish.

rampartd

(1,735 posts)
26. google "trump studio 54"
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:10 AM
Jan 28

the place was known for cocaine and dancing, and we've all seen him dance.

allegorical oracle

(4,282 posts)
31. Recall his appearances on Howard Stern's radio show, read about him in tabloids. His 1970s
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:47 AM
Jan 28

behavior at NY's "in place" -- Studio 54 -- was a frequent topic. He allegedly did coke there because "everybody" was doing it. Stern would obliquely joke about it (also djt's attraction to daughter Ivanka).

Walleye

(38,613 posts)
28. And he looks like he's absolutely miserable. Maybe he thinks making other people more miserable will relieve it.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:26 AM
Jan 28

Mike 03

(18,211 posts)
5. "difficulty with communication"
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 08:07 PM
Jan 26

That one was hard to miss, and truly by the time COVID happened, it was so bad that I cannot imagine anyone not noticing. It's the poverty of vocabulary, the repetition, and not merely repeating things he's said before but, as Bob Woodward has described, saying the exact same thing in the exact same way four, five times during a twenty minute conversation.

Right now the most perilous aspect of his deterioration is his decision-making. He will make many crucial decisions, including life-and-death decisions, the same cavalier way he approved mass pardons for the J6 insurrectionists. Spur of the moment. To hell with it! The other way is too hard, too time consuming.

milestogo

(19,802 posts)
7. And now he's making horrible decisions that affect the whole country
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 08:15 PM
Jan 26

and the rest of the world.

no_hypocrisy

(50,568 posts)
8. I'm getting PTSD with TSF.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 08:17 PM
Jan 26

Reminds me too much of my abusive father with dementia at the end of his life. You have no idea what a relief it was to me when the doctors told me they couldn't save him.

Intractable

(939 posts)
10. They get even harder to deal with.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 08:23 PM
Jan 26

"How can you tell when someone with a warped personality has dementia?"

This describes my mother. Throughout her life, she spent way too much time by herself because she constantly snubbed other people. It astounded me how people could do nice things for her, only for her to speak negatively of them.

She puts others down to feel better about herself.

In her 30s, she ran meetings for NOW (National Organization of Women). In her 70s, she voted for Trump over Hillary.

Now, she's in memory-care assisted living, living in a cloud of dementia, thinking she's better than everyone else around her.

I have no relationship with her. One day, not too long ago, it became too much for me to bear.

milestogo

(19,802 posts)
11. My mother had some kind of dementia but she would go in and out of it
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 08:29 PM
Jan 26

and she was never hateful. She was just very confused towards the end, but even then she was easy to love.

Intractable

(939 posts)
12. And that's because your Mom was a decent person before the dementia.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 08:33 PM
Jan 26

My mother was a fundamentally nasty person. Once the dementia set in, she could no longer compensate for her angry and jealous thoughts. Always speaking ill of others.

Intractable

(939 posts)
15. Thanks for the hug.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 09:10 PM
Jan 26

I'm not sorry any longer. After 59 years of it, I am finally free.

I should have broken off contact with her years ago. It would have been for her own good. No one makes her more angry than I do. I remind her of my father, a man she did not love, but chose to marry to get away from her own mother and father.

She had a shitty childhood. And years later, she failed in her many attempts to pass that anger onto me.



Here I am talking about myself. Fuck that! We got a Trump to deal with.

Maru Kitteh

(29,750 posts)
16. I'm a nurse. I've worked in lock-down psych, TBI rehab, elder/disabled, and hospice care.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 10:23 PM
Jan 26

So far I see roughly the capacity I would expect from a born-wealthy white man of his age who started with a rather pedestrian IQ, a profound, complex personality disorder and the lifelong practice of incurious sloth and gluttony. It’s not impressive, and I wouldn’t expect it to be.

Those who have thought him on the edge of death from dementia, I’m sorry to tell you that you’re mistaken, and believe me, nothing would give me more hope than for his sure and timely demise to be true but alas . . .

Both of his parents showed signs of mental decline before their deaths but from what Mary and Fred Trump have written it doesn’t sound to me like his mother had an Alzheimer’s-type dementia. She sounds like she was a needy, transactional, entitled, manipulative, icy psychopath. She seems to have been ruthless and calculating to the end with her faculties largely intact till the final weeks or months. His father on the other hand seems to have developed a rather classic-style senile dementia and suffered with it for a fairly lengthy period of time.

I saw signs of hope in him showing up with blood-thinner-bruised hands a few months ago, prior to the inauguration. He may have suffered a TIA or minor MI at some point, perhaps with or after Covid. Past is prologue, maybe his disease can progress faster than Mitch McConnell’s.

Maru Kitteh

(29,750 posts)
35. It doesn't take much with blood thinners at his age. Add in a poor diet, maybe even a fatty liver
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 10:40 AM
Jan 28

and it can look real ugly, real fast.

Maru Kitteh

(29,750 posts)
34. Yes, it very well could have been from a blown IV or blood draw. In fact,
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 10:10 AM
Jan 28

given his sedentary lifestyle and strict adherence to a the principle of sparing all physical efforts I would say it’s more likely than not from a blown IV or blood draw than some physical event like hitting his hand while doing something although I will add one caveat - he’s getting old. That means he’s experiencing decreased muscular coordination, and unexpected loss of balance doe to decreased proprioception. He may have lost his footing getting into a golf cart or something and smashed it.

Edited to add; no matter how it happened, the bruising pattern itself points to blood that is not clotting normally, which is usually due to medications commonly called “blood thinners.” It can also be an acquired clotting disorder from something like anemia, infectious disease, and cancer leap to mind. I’m sure there are others (maybe he got bit by a snake, ha ha). As I said though, blood thinners are your number one suspect in this demographic.




ananda

(31,315 posts)
23. Since 2017 I have had several bridge partners with dementia.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:26 PM
Jan 27

I didn't recognize it the first time till a friend explained
it to me.

Right now I only have one partner who can remember how
to play consistently.

I'm cutting back playing time with the others.

It takes me forever to recognize it and figure out how to
deal with it.

THe problem is that they get defensive and combative over
their mistakes, wanting to make them mean something else
that's supposed to make sense, or else putting it on me for
not figuring out what they were really doing.

I literally can't handle that kind of stress all that much. So
as I said, I'm cutting back playing time and just taking it easy.

Turns out, I like it that way. It gives me a chance to relax and
work on my physical issues, and that is going pretty well so far.

Life is good.

Norbert

(6,895 posts)
25. Didn't he go to Studio 54 a lot too in the 1970
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:42 AM
Jan 28

There were probably much Coke and ludes flowing there.

Meowmee

(7,684 posts)
27. There will be other signs in addition to
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:17 AM
Jan 28

The narcissism and psychopathy… some of them can seem similar. However, I think he definitely has worsened and whatever else is going on he’s had personality disorders or whatever you want to call it from the time he was young. Plus add years of drugs etc.

Maru Kitteh

(29,750 posts)
38. Oh. "Truth"
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:56 PM
Jan 28

Truth: You were attempting to imply he has LBD, People have been pointing to pictures of him in high-profile events where he knows he will be highly photographed for about 10 years now and spouting “LBD!!!” CLEARLY, he does not. Again in 2020 the internet was overflowing with remote and promising but superficial diagnosis of every manner of neurological disorders that were certain to result in his complete incapacity and demise at any moment! He was gonna be dead any day now! You may have noticed, it didn’t happen.

You might also notice, he’s never standing that way in candid photos or when he is walking.



It’s the lifts, and his vanity before the cameras, and his insecurity about his weight and height.
https://medium.com/@DrGJackBrown/body-language-analysis-4382-why-is-donald-trump-leaning-forward-29a69fa4e742

I will freely admit I should have been more specific than answering with a simple “no.” That was wrong, I just didn’t have time for any of this. I still don’t. I suppose I should have said “No, leaning forward by itself is not a sign of dementia.” Hopefully everyone would know that anyway. Or more precisely “No, Trump is not standing that way because of a neurological disorder.”

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