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Maraya1969

(23,134 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 02:30 PM Jan 27

I just wanted to share something with any undoicumented

people. Remember "they" (ICE) have no right to do an "illegal search and seizure" Fuck it if you haven't gotten the right papers yet - they don't know that if they are standing at your closed door. You could say, "My attorney said you need a warrant before I let you in my house, (and fuck them if you don't have a lawyer. I don't think they are allowed to ask)

And then pack your stuff up and go somewhere else.

I have no idea if this will work but I shared how I kept a cop out of my house doing this same thing

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Wicked Blue

(7,185 posts)
1. Good suggestion, but do we know ICE plays by the same rules as cops?
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 02:32 PM
Jan 27

They seem kind of lawless to me.

LauraInLA

(1,697 posts)
9. They are required to have an actual judicial warrant, which apparently they often cut corners on.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 04:51 PM
Jan 27

Greg_In_SF

(160 posts)
10. What is commonly called an order for removal is a
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 05:57 PM
Jan 27

"Warrant For Removal" issued by a magistrate or a judge and can be executed anywhere in the US. It is the final step.

LauraInLA

(1,697 posts)
11. Apparently sometimes they only have the administrative warrant, #200 or #205, which is not sufficient.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 07:16 PM
Jan 27

Meowmee

(6,842 posts)
3. My brother said a house here was raided by ice last week
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 02:41 PM
Jan 27

I am wondering how they knew to raid it, are people informing on other people already? It turned out they were all citizens.

Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

DeepWinter

(775 posts)
7. Re: ICE raids
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 02:49 PM
Jan 27

ICE raids are not announced in advance. Rather, ICE agents are free to enter any public areas of the business, such as a lobby or parking lot. They can use what is visable in such places for further probable cause. However, in order to enter non-public business premises, the agent must have a signed judicial search warrant or the employer's consent.

ICE raids on a private residence almost always already have a warrant.

ICE raids on private businesses may have a warrant, or they may not. Often when they don't, they simply rely on panic and people fleeing into what is public space. History shows this works.

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