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In It to Win It

(10,178 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:14 PM Jan 27

Trump administration orders sweeping freeze of all federal aid

President Donald Trump’s budget office ordered an expansive freeze Monday of “all federal financial assistance,” a move that could halt payments within days to states and U.S. households that receive assistance like SNAP food aid.

In a two-page memo, obtained by POLITICO and authenticated by three people, the Office of Management and Budget ordered all federal agencies to temporarily suspend payments, while making clear that Social Security and Medicare won’t be affected.

“The use of Federal resources to advance Marxist equity, transgenderism, and green new deal social engineering policies is a waste of taxpayer dollars that does not improve the day-to-day lives of those we serve,” according to the memo.

The document was first reported by the journalist Marisa Kabas.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-orders-sweeping-freeze-023609190.html

https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3lgr2gf5uzk27
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Trump administration orders sweeping freeze of all federal aid (Original Post) In It to Win It Jan 27 OP
does this include funds going to musk enterprises and jef bezos? nt msongs Jan 27 #1
It's a safe bet that it doesn't. LisaL Jan 27 #7
This is illegal. Where are Congressional Dems? Arazi Jan 27 #2
Are you under the impression that minority parties in Congress have any power RockRaven Jan 27 #6
Congressional Dems have standing to sue Arazi Jan 27 #8
I think they'd lose that standing argument. In It to Win It Jan 27 #9
So they should just stand by and become an advisory body Arazi Jan 28 #13
Republicans were shut out in 2008 from power but that didn't stop them DSandra Jan 28 #38
Because what we really need is a doomed lawsuit to establish a bad precedent RockRaven Jan 27 #11
It's just so much easier to blame the Dems at every opportunity Hekate Jan 28 #19
To be clear, I'm not blaming Dems Arazi Jan 28 #22
Oh please...he's not blaming Dems Bengus81 Jan 28 #24
Crop insurance subsidies?? IA8IT Jan 27 #3
USDA Loans? suegeo Jan 28 #27
Wow! Advanced creative writing BOSSHOG Jan 27 #4
I think he won the popular vote this time. Ligyron Jan 28 #26
If only those damn eggs had been cheaper. tavernier Jan 28 #28
He won a plurality Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 28 #41
That's a good point. Ligyron Jan 30 #43
We're in a non-hyperbolic reign of terror. UTUSN Jan 27 #5
The Marxist equity, transgenderism, climate stuff doesn't surprise me with trumpsters, but Silent Type Jan 27 #10
Block Grants? Medicaid, SNAP, HUD, Educational Assistance haele Jan 28 #12
We could see seniors and the disabled out of facilities in a week Arazi Jan 28 #14
I'm not sure when Medicaid and Section 8 post for block grants haele Jan 28 #16
Yup. In general not merciful types Arazi Jan 28 #29
The Media Baron2024 Jan 28 #34
Get ready for the... Xolodno Jan 28 #18
"does not improve the lives of those we serve" orangecrush Jan 28 #15
Pdf of memo: dalton99a Jan 28 #17
They are going to use this as black-mail on a state by state basis. Chakaconcarne Jan 28 #20
Everything these asses have done so far has been right out of Project 2025. n/t OnlinePoker Jan 28 #21
Total BS and illegal. Stops funding for passed LAWS such as the Infrastructure Bengus81 Jan 28 #23
So the OMB can override a Law, huh? Sounds like a suit that will give the felon's SCOTUS the chance to legislate from ancianita Jan 28 #25
Im a Medicaid rep. xmas74 Jan 28 #30
Republicans are clueless about Marxism, let alone 'Marxist equity'. blm Jan 28 #31
A Social Safety Net Baron2024 Jan 28 #35
If this includes FEMA aid, many MAGA voters in disaster areas will find their faces being eaten by those Timeflyer Jan 28 #32
as they SHOULD. B.See Jan 28 #36
I called Sen. Rick (Voldemort) Scott's office re: FEMA funds-the person who answered basically told me to Google it. Timeflyer Jan 28 #39
My grant funds are stopped Stuckinthebush Jan 28 #33
IMPEACH now. It's all we got except lawsuits that go on forever. We know how to do impeachment. Gotta make a statement Evolve Dammit Jan 28 #37
This is something we can do endlessly. EndlessWire Jan 28 #40
I don't see any other recourse besides endless lawsuits that may or may not be ever brought. I hear you though. Evolve Dammit Jan 28 #42

Arazi

(7,597 posts)
2. This is illegal. Where are Congressional Dems?
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:22 PM
Jan 27

This is a five alarm fire AND the sky IS falling kinda thing.

He’s seizing Congress’s authority tonight

RockRaven

(17,016 posts)
6. Are you under the impression that minority parties in Congress have any power
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:36 PM
Jan 27

to supersede the Executive Branch?

Arazi

(7,597 posts)
8. Congressional Dems have standing to sue
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:40 PM
Jan 27

They should do so. Asap.

They should also be unified tonight on calling this out. Loudly. Everywhere and on every megaphone they have.

Arazi

(7,597 posts)
13. So they should just stand by and become an advisory body
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:09 AM
Jan 28

Instead of a coequal branch of government?

I know it’s close to that now with Mike Johnson and Mitch McConnell in charge but this is the fight Dems must attempt

DSandra

(1,532 posts)
38. Republicans were shut out in 2008 from power but that didn't stop them
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:25 PM
Jan 28

"What would Mitch McConnell do..."

Do Democrats truly stand up for the people it represents?

RockRaven

(17,016 posts)
11. Because what we really need is a doomed lawsuit to establish a bad precedent
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:50 PM
Jan 27

of a total obliteration of the separation of powers, regardless of what the Constitution says, derived from whole cloth by a corrupt god-king-enamored SCOTUS as early in TCF's second term as possible. Brilliant strategy.

Arazi

(7,597 posts)
22. To be clear, I'm not blaming Dems
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:25 AM
Jan 28

I’m exhorting them to action. This is the fight they need to engage with.

Today.

BOSSHOG

(41,431 posts)
4. Wow! Advanced creative writing
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:26 PM
Jan 27

And all because a person who more people voted against then voted for is sitting in the same seat that held Lincoln, FDR, JFK, President Obama, President Biden. A man who lies easier than he breaths. A man whose motivation to run for president was the strong desire to stay out of jail where he belongs. He leads todays Republican Party my fellow Americans.

Ligyron

(7,930 posts)
26. I think he won the popular vote this time.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:00 PM
Jan 28

I know, I know…

We’re surrounded by idiots.

Silent Type

(8,646 posts)
10. The Marxist equity, transgenderism, climate stuff doesn't surprise me with trumpsters, but
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:49 PM
Jan 27

hope this isn’t quite accurate. Again, wouldn’t surprise me. In my rube red area, the local white wingers are loving the ICE raids. Sometimes reads like a lynching crowd on the neighborhood sites.

haele

(14,023 posts)
12. Block Grants? Medicaid, SNAP, HUD, Educational Assistance
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:01 AM
Jan 28

Drug Treatment, Disability services, Transportation Assistance, Heating Assistance...

They really tore it all down, didn't they. I'm sure they're going to equate it to ripping the bandaid off quick, and all those lazy elderly, disabled, and children will just suddenly realize they all need to get off their lazy asses and fix their own problems - or starve in a ditch...
Just like the rich folks do.
Yes, it's cruelty. But that's part of the New Republican ideology. You must be cruel so the Mediocre Rich White Man Status Quo can be conserved.



Arazi

(7,597 posts)
14. We could see seniors and the disabled out of facilities in a week
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:10 AM
Jan 28

Like literally on the street

haele

(14,023 posts)
16. I'm not sure when Medicaid and Section 8 post for block grants
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:21 AM
Jan 28

If it's monthly or or a quarterly grant payment based on applicants.

But I do know that landlords and property managers for nursing homes or assisted living are probably going to be starting eviction notices on their resident who use Medicaid or Section 8 if they think that resident won't be able to make up the difference next month.

Arazi

(7,597 posts)
29. Yup. In general not merciful types
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:35 PM
Jan 28

Impatient for their $$ and unrelenting about delays. Not slamming them - they have bills too but they won’t wait his out

Baron2024

(1,334 posts)
34. The Media
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:28 PM
Jan 28

The media needs to actually show the elderly and the disabled being put out into the streets. Maybe that would shock America into action.

Chakaconcarne

(2,746 posts)
20. They are going to use this as black-mail on a state by state basis.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 10:42 AM
Jan 28

"According to the memo, the budget office “may grant exceptions allowing Federal agencies to issue new awards or take other actions on a case-by-case basis.”"

Red States will remain on the teet... Blue states are on their own.

Bengus81

(8,306 posts)
23. Total BS and illegal. Stops funding for passed LAWS such as the Infrastructure
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:46 AM
Jan 28

and the Inflation Reduction act.

Chuck Schumer:

“They say this is only temporary, but no one should believe that," he said. "Donald Trump must direct his Administration to reverse course immediately and the taxpayers’ money should be distributed to the people. Congress approved these investments and they are not optional; they are the law.”

ancianita

(39,956 posts)
25. So the OMB can override a Law, huh? Sounds like a suit that will give the felon's SCOTUS the chance to legislate from
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:00 PM
Jan 28

the bench. Or the chance to stand up for the First Branch's constitutional powers.

xmas74

(29,850 posts)
30. Im a Medicaid rep.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:35 PM
Jan 28

How long before I lose my job and my insurance?
I'm in remission but I need the insurance to catch it.

blm

(114,021 posts)
31. Republicans are clueless about Marxism, let alone 'Marxist equity'.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:50 PM
Jan 28

Marxism is often criticized by the likes of Dr. Jordan B. Peterson for its championing of equality of outcome. This abhorrent tag, arguably, gives Marxism a stigma that is intensified by a collective right-wing obsession on the web. I took the liberty of searching about equality of outcome on a popular video-sharing website. I was not disappointed. Hundreds of videos stared at me, screaming how pernicious the Marxist notion of equality of outcome is. Yet, almost no one from that camp seemed to quote extensively from real Marxist literature. Apart from a few monotonous, soulless readings of the Communist Manifesto, most of these videos did not seem to have any substance. But, does Dr. Peterson’s argument against Marxism hold any water? Did Marx and Engels really vouch for equality of outcome at all? Or, is it just sloppy research to conflate the duo with the so-called “social justice warriors”?

Well, basic Marxist literature reveals that an accusation cannot be more preposterous. Marx never saw equality of outcome as a goal. If anything, he detested this bourgeois notion. In The Critique of the Gotha Programme, Marx says:
…one worker is married, another is not; one has more children than another, and so on and so forth. Thus, with an equal performance of labor, and hence an equal in the social consumption fund, one will in fact receive more than another, one will be richer than another, and so on. To avoid all these defects, right, instead of being equal, would have to be unequal.

https://medium.com/@aleftwanderer/does-marxism-call-for-equality-of-outcome-47327d07b105

Baron2024

(1,334 posts)
35. A Social Safety Net
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:32 PM
Jan 28

A social safety net in a mixed capitalist economy is not Marxism. The Trump Regime calling public assistance Marxism is pure propaganda. We need to counter that propaganda in the media and online. A dissertation on Marxism is not an effective counter argument. We simply need to say " No, public assistance is not Marxism. Calling it Marxism is a lie. It is Fascist propaganda." Which is both true and accurate.

Timeflyer

(3,032 posts)
32. If this includes FEMA aid, many MAGA voters in disaster areas will find their faces being eaten by those
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:48 PM
Jan 28

leopards we warned them about.

Timeflyer

(3,032 posts)
39. I called Sen. Rick (Voldemort) Scott's office re: FEMA funds-the person who answered basically told me to Google it.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:33 PM
Jan 28

He wasn't sure, but he will log my opinion that I'm against freezing FEMA funding. So...let's all call all our elected gov't officials daily, and express deep, overwhelming, "is this even constitutional," concern about the latest distracting BS SHitler has pulled.

Oh, and the phone guy also said that, if SHitler does something a voter think is unconstitutional, they can always sue to have that corrected.

Stuckinthebush

(11,102 posts)
33. My grant funds are stopped
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:50 PM
Jan 28

Millions of dollars used to provide addiction treatment services to 10,000 people annually. Stopped.

Fuck Trump. and to hell with those people who voted for him.

Evolve Dammit

(20,275 posts)
37. IMPEACH now. It's all we got except lawsuits that go on forever. We know how to do impeachment. Gotta make a statement
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:21 PM
Jan 28

EndlessWire

(7,584 posts)
40. This is something we can do endlessly.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:40 PM
Jan 28

Impeach him, fail...do it again. Immediately. He's a rat weasel who deserves to be in jail. I haven't once heard anyone say anything other than, "What He wants, His vision of His agenda, etc." Nothing about the People.

Well, eff him. Eat another cheeseburger and drop dead. Let him shove his P25 agenda up his doughy, fat ass.

Sorry, I'm having a bad day. Even my dog is in a bad mood. We're going back to bed to watch videos and snack on crackers and dog treats. Probably run out.

Evolve Dammit

(20,275 posts)
42. I don't see any other recourse besides endless lawsuits that may or may not be ever brought. I hear you though.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:38 PM
Jan 28
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