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He's fucking freezing SNAP? (Original Post) choie Jan 27 OP
Only until he can kill it completely. yourout Jan 27 #1
Just to intimidate the peasants and let them know who's boss. He'll give it back Wingus Dingus Jan 27 #2
Not a surprise. Still, federal food aid has always benefitted farmers & used to be popular with them. Hekate Jan 27 #3
All this shit was in Project 2025 iemanja Jan 27 #4
If not all of it, a vast majority of it was. mwmisses4289 Jan 28 #70
He trying to starve people to death in the US. Bluethroughu Jan 27 #5
This is illegal usurpation of Congressional authority Arazi Jan 27 #6
As powerless as they were yesterday, and will be tomorrow, that's where. RockRaven Jan 27 #10
When are people going to get that? Hekate Jan 27 #19
Congressional Dems have standing to sue Arazi Jan 27 #22
Remind me which judge type people have the ultimate say on that... RockRaven Jan 27 #25
Dems have put judges in place Arazi Jan 28 #29
Counting is hard, I know. One two three. One two three four five six. RockRaven Jan 28 #32
It really sucks bpositive Jan 27 #26
Amazing isn't it. BamaRefugee Jan 28 #48
Thanks to the electoral college and a corrupt supreme court, Mysterian Jan 28 #66
Funny how that works every fucking time. Autumn Jan 28 #68
Messaging, though. BadgerMom Jan 28 #38
Possibly watching reruns of Mr Rogers Neighborhood at Garlands home but to be fair SCOTUS says tRump is a special boy yaesu Jan 27 #12
I believe that's an illegal order. sakabatou Jan 27 #7
Trump loves making illegal orders. He knows no one will stop him. Irish_Dem Jan 28 #58
It's a non-hyperbolic reign of terror. UTUSN Jan 27 #8
If you hear a MAGAt/Con/Repug, or a nonvoter, complain about this remind them RockRaven Jan 27 #9
Let them eat cake. jls4561 Jan 27 #11
Sure - it hurts people who (probably) didn't vote for him Retrograde Jan 27 #13
okay. reminder to self... chaos is the intent stillcool Jan 27 #14
Slow genocide. moondust Jan 27 #15
Yes, it looks like a serious population reduction. ananda Jan 28 #28
Maybe. moondust Jan 28 #31
What I think Trump-Musk wants is a country... ananda Jan 28 #67
The new gap will be filled by Russia and China. Irish_Dem Jan 28 #59
yup ananda Jan 28 #60
I'm not seeing any MSM confirmation of this, only foreign aid freeze. nt yaesu Jan 27 #16
All federal aid is frozen iemanja Jan 27 #21
Thank you. nt yaesu Jan 27 #23
There was specific info about payments to individuals not being frozen. I'm thinking they're relying on the fact LauraInLA Jan 28 #33
The memo says payments to individuals will continue but doesn't outline state level funding uponit7771 Jan 27 #17
THIS. nt scipan Jan 28 #47
"The use of Federal resources to advance Marxist equity, transgenderism, and green new deal social engineering policies" HereForTheParty Jan 27 #18
That's on an actual government document. It's like a brain-dead Freeper wrote it. Wingus Dingus Jan 27 #20
Sounds like a script from his MAGA/KKK rallies tulipsandroses Jan 28 #27
Straight up fascism orangecrush Jan 28 #30
So much for the House controlling the purse strings. gab13by13 Jan 27 #24
Sounds like a clickbait article Greg_In_SF Jan 28 #34
Knowing that orange shitstain,... LudwigPastorius Jan 28 #35
Thankfully Greg_In_SF Jan 28 #37
Watch for his SNAP beneficiary KKKultists to worship him all the more fervently Orrex Jan 28 #36
SNAP? How Much More can I hate this "man". Yeah, i know some of this was talked about. What the hell about Medicaid?!!! electric_blue68 Jan 28 #39
Feels like there's nothing he HASN'T frozen at this point. Karasu Jan 28 #40
This will impact farmers as much as people in poverty. 33taw Jan 28 #41
The cruelty is the point notinkansas Jan 28 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Daleuhlmann Jan 28 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Daleuhlmann Jan 28 #44
Another Order That Will Be DOA in the Courts! Daleuhlmann Jan 28 #45
The article does not mention SNAP at all Ms. Toad Jan 28 #46
I thought SNAP was administered by grants to the states Arazi Jan 28 #49
Yes, SNAP is funding administered by the state. choie Jan 28 #50
But that $$ comes from grants from the feds? Arazi Jan 28 #52
You're correct, funding is federal. choie Jan 28 #54
It is administered by the States, Ms. Toad Jan 28 #65
It isn't given to individuals obamanut2012 Jan 28 #61
So individuals don't get a card equivalent to a debit card. Ms. Toad Jan 28 #64
These kinds of threads are getting painfully numerous AZJonnie Jan 28 #51
Pretty clear, they just froze all indirect payments JCMach1 Jan 28 #56
It is getting to the point I will be trashing threads again. valleyrogue Jan 28 #62
No it's not. This is the real deal Arazi Jan 28 #63
they actually mentioned transgendering in the memo Skittles Jan 28 #53
The directives are so vague that even Federal workers are struggling Mike 03 Jan 28 #55
oh they will get to SS and Medicare Skittles Jan 28 #57
He will be sued videohead5 Jan 28 #69

Wingus Dingus

(8,824 posts)
2. Just to intimidate the peasants and let them know who's boss. He'll give it back
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:24 PM
Jan 27

before there's riots.

Hekate

(96,598 posts)
3. Not a surprise. Still, federal food aid has always benefitted farmers & used to be popular with them.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:25 PM
Jan 27

RockRaven

(17,008 posts)
10. As powerless as they were yesterday, and will be tomorrow, that's where.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:30 PM
Jan 27

Turns out that voting (or not voting) matters.

A lot.

Every time.

Over time.

Hekate

(96,598 posts)
19. When are people going to get that?
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:37 PM
Jan 27

goddam hard for any Dem in the House or Senate to “do” anything when the MAGAGOPs have a trifecta

Altho my Senator Schiff has been speaking out on MSNBC a lot lately

Arazi

(7,593 posts)
22. Congressional Dems have standing to sue
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:42 PM
Jan 27

And they need to get out in front of this tonight.

Where’s our leadership ffs?!

No more passivity please. Time to get very VERY loud. This is a total power grab to neuter all of Congress. Even Republicans should protest this illegal move

RockRaven

(17,008 posts)
25. Remind me which judge type people have the ultimate say on that...
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:44 PM
Jan 27

And the general philosophy and past behavior of these ones, and how that relates to what you are asserting.

Arazi

(7,593 posts)
29. Dems have put judges in place
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:07 AM
Jan 28

Time to ante up on where they stand on our Constitution.

And ffs, this is going to gut red state governors as hard as blue states.

RockRaven

(17,008 posts)
32. Counting is hard, I know. One two three. One two three four five six.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:40 AM
Jan 28

Ugh... Who can keep it straight!?

BamaRefugee

(3,774 posts)
48. Amazing isn't it.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:59 AM
Jan 28

But the other side never never ever stops, in or out of power, thinking up an endless buffet of skullduggery, which has a massive cumulative effect, yet we keep saying they’re stupid.

Mysterian

(5,397 posts)
66. Thanks to the electoral college and a corrupt supreme court,
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:44 AM
Jan 28

and of course the undemocratic apportionment of senators. Yes, rotten relics of our past have come back to spoil democracy in the U.S.A.

BadgerMom

(3,127 posts)
38. Messaging, though.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 01:27 AM
Jan 28

We are powerless except for our voices. We can express what we would do differently. We can reach out to those hurting because of this. WE CAN BEGIN ASKING FOR THEIR VOTE NOW!

yaesu

(8,622 posts)
12. Possibly watching reruns of Mr Rogers Neighborhood at Garlands home but to be fair SCOTUS says tRump is a special boy
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:31 PM
Jan 27

and can break any law in the land. Welcome to fascist shithole USA.

Irish_Dem

(65,540 posts)
58. Trump loves making illegal orders. He knows no one will stop him.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:56 AM
Jan 28

And it demonstrates his total power and control.

RockRaven

(17,008 posts)
9. If you hear a MAGAt/Con/Repug, or a nonvoter, complain about this remind them
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:28 PM
Jan 27

that this is what they chose.

jls4561

(2,107 posts)
11. Let them eat cake.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:30 PM
Jan 27

Yeah, I know she really said brioche, but either way, it didn’t work out well for her.

Retrograde

(10,970 posts)
13. Sure - it hurts people who (probably) didn't vote for him
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:32 PM
Jan 27

He's all about cruelty and pettiness

ananda

(31,315 posts)
28. Yes, it looks like a serious population reduction.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:04 AM
Jan 28

The USA will not be the USA much longer.

I think the new gap will be filled by Trump
friendly foreigners.

I've thought this for awhile now.

moondust

(20,782 posts)
31. Maybe.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:28 AM
Jan 28

Last edited Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:58 PM - Edit history (1)

Add up all his actions hostile to public health, from drinking bleach to appointing an anti-vax nutjob to head HHS--and everything in between--and it starts to become plausible.

A disturbing thought on the 80th anniversary of the liberation of a genocidal death camp where between 1.1 and 1.5 million were murdered by criminals who thought they were superior.

ananda

(31,315 posts)
67. What I think Trump-Musk wants is a country...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:06 PM
Jan 28

filled with wealthy white plutocrats with everyone
else working as slaves.

Talk me down on this if you wish.

iemanja

(55,655 posts)
21. All federal aid is frozen
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:40 PM
Jan 27
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/trump-administration-orders-sweeping-freeze-of-all-federal-aid/ar-AA1xYihL?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Grants and loans are also frozen. There are multiple threads with different news sources on the grants and loans.

(oops. Same source. I'll look for another one).

LauraInLA

(1,763 posts)
33. There was specific info about payments to individuals not being frozen. I'm thinking they're relying on the fact
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:41 AM
Jan 28

that there will be a huge outcry over Medicaid and SNAP, and those programs will be worked in. It’s disgusting, but it’s been their playbook all week.

uponit7771

(92,496 posts)
17. The memo says payments to individuals will continue but doesn't outline state level funding
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:35 PM
Jan 27

This is hot garbage showmanship

HereForTheParty

(695 posts)
18. "The use of Federal resources to advance Marxist equity, transgenderism, and green new deal social engineering policies"
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:36 PM
Jan 27

Jeebus.

tulipsandroses

(6,913 posts)
27. Sounds like a script from his MAGA/KKK rallies
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:04 AM
Jan 28

He's drunk with power. It may end up biting him in the ass.

Greg_In_SF

(171 posts)
34. Sounds like a clickbait article
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:50 AM
Jan 28

"Could affect SNAP". Three unnamed sources.

The only confirmation I can find is that certain foreign aid has been halted.

LudwigPastorius

(11,844 posts)
35. Knowing that orange shitstain,...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 01:13 AM
Jan 28

this probably means he'll freeze SNAP funding to blue states only.

electric_blue68

(20,213 posts)
39. SNAP? How Much More can I hate this "man". Yeah, i know some of this was talked about. What the hell about Medicaid?!!!
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 01:38 AM
Jan 28

I'm not on SNAP, had been. Dammit, people need this!!!

My facility apt, and meals is partly based on Medicaid (+SS, and NYS Payments)!

Oh, I managed to tamp down most of my anxieties, and fears pre J20.

:donotpanic: :donotpanic: :donotpanic:

Ok, not panicking (yet?).

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Daleuhlmann

(399 posts)
45. Another Order That Will Be DOA in the Courts!
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:42 AM
Jan 28

Somebody should have set a burning match this two-page memo! It violates not only the anti-impoundment law, but the Constitution's separation.of powers.

Ms. Toad

(36,187 posts)
46. The article does not mention SNAP at all
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:06 AM
Jan 28

And specifically says the freeze does not apply to direct said to individuals.

Arazi

(7,593 posts)
49. I thought SNAP was administered by grants to the states
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:03 AM
Jan 28

I honestly don’t have a handle on that tho.

Medicaid is grant funded to the states to iirc

Ms. Toad

(36,187 posts)
65. It is administered by the States,
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:41 AM
Jan 28

But the programs are administered for the benefit of individuals who are people receive the equivalent of a debit card to buy food for themselves and their families.

Not to mention, the SNAP funds are not funds that are arguably used to promote a woke agenda (etc.). Read the actual document and didn't buy trouble where there isn't any (yet).

Ms. Toad

(36,187 posts)
64. So individuals don't get a card equivalent to a debit card.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:33 AM
Jan 28

Which they can use to buy food?

It must certainly is given to individuals.

AZJonnie

(471 posts)
51. These kinds of threads are getting painfully numerous
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:52 AM
Jan 28

I, for one, would appreciate a title like "Trump OMB order is unclear about whether SNAP payments could be halted" instead of terrifying declarations like the OP here? I feel there's enough verifiably terrifying shit going on this past week without people framing their speculation as if were fact in their thread titles. But maybe that's just me, and if so, I apologize for bringing it up

JCMach1

(28,445 posts)
56. Pretty clear, they just froze all indirect payments
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:25 AM
Jan 28

Only excluding Social Security and Medicare.

Everything

valleyrogue

(1,826 posts)
62. It is getting to the point I will be trashing threads again.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 09:01 AM
Jan 28

This is clearly click bait b.s.

Arazi

(7,593 posts)
63. No it's not. This is the real deal
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 09:18 AM
Jan 28

Traitor cut off all federal funding which includes all grants to states and that means SNAP along with everything else

Skittles

(162,389 posts)
53. they actually mentioned transgendering in the memo
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:18 AM
Jan 28

FUCK EVERYONE WHO VOTED FOR THESE FUCKING ASS CLOWNS

Mike 03

(18,211 posts)
55. The directives are so vague that even Federal workers are struggling
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:33 AM
Jan 28

to understand them.

I am slowly making my way through this subReddit for Federal Workers. There's a lot of information here about a "sweeping freeze in federal aid" that appears to exclude only Social Security and Medicare if I'm understanding this correctly.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/new/

This website is constantly updating with new posts. This website is overwhelming (and sad) but it offers a good way to try to understand what Trump is doing to our government and its agencies.

videohead5

(2,568 posts)
69. He will be sued
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:13 PM
Jan 28

President Biden put a record number of judges on the federal bench. This will be blocked within a few hours if not minutes.

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