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The backlash is starting already (Original Post) malaise Jan 28 OP
They need an injunction. 33taw Jan 28 #1
The shit will hit the fan sooner than we have been thinking malaise Jan 28 #2
General Strike ! Immediately! Captain Zero Jan 28 #4
Don't rule it out malaise Jan 28 #5
wish we markie Jan 28 #20
I actually think NJCher Jan 28 #26
He did not write Project 2025 malaise Jan 29 #34
Do I smell recession? Klarkashton Jan 28 #3
Explain further malaise Jan 28 #6
Screw around with federal funding even for a Klarkashton Jan 28 #10
Thanks malaise Jan 28 #15
For example all National Science Foundation grants just got stopped EdmondDantes_ Jan 28 #11
Depression if long enough. roamer65 Jan 28 #8
Yes, a complete social and economic collapse. ananda Jan 28 #24
and any fool would know this NJCher Jan 28 #27
How can there be a viable end game when all systems collapse? ananda Jan 28 #31
Maybe that's their goal. subterranean Jan 28 #29
Are the Ds hoping to win this fight because they feel the pen is mightier than the sword? Enuf with in2herbs Jan 28 #7
Congress likely does not have standing to sue the president. It usually needs to be a state or a patient etc. LeftInTX Jan 28 #12
But several of these EOs usurp Congress's control of the purse strings. TheRickles Jan 28 #18
I'm not sure. I remember John Boehner's fued with Obama. He kept threatening to sue him. LeftInTX Jan 28 #21
Did you watch the video? What about that was a 'sternly worded letter?" mahina Jan 28 #22
It was a /s reference to Pelosi's governing via sternly worded letters. nt in2herbs Jan 28 #25
Do you think that is helpful, even if it was true? mahina Jan 28 #28
Citizens have a right to accurate, consistent information from their government bucolic_frolic Jan 28 #9
The con is out of control. Quiet Em Jan 28 #13
She works hard behind closed doors. Ferryboat Jan 28 #17
I encourage everyone to contact their reps, INCLUDING MAGAs. ONLY RAISING HOLY HELL CousinIT Jan 28 #14
Everyone with republican senators in their state need to be burning up the phone lines. BComplex Jan 28 #16
I fear relying on Lindsey to do the right thing is a fool's errand. Hope there is a plan B. MLAA Jan 28 #19
As long as he only hurts the 'bad' people. Norrrm Jan 28 #23
Call your Senator and Rep and let them know how you feel surfered Jan 28 #30
I am lucky (?)... rasputin1952 Jan 28 #32
And somebody get Schumer a new phone Mountainguy Jan 28 #33
LOL malaise Jan 29 #36
I truly believe he won't get away Elessar Zappa Jan 29 #35

malaise

(280,444 posts)
2. The shit will hit the fan sooner than we have been thinking
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:16 PM
Jan 28

The kakistocracy is on full display.

NJCher

(38,629 posts)
26. I actually think
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:32 PM
Jan 28

this is trump's dementia coming through.

There is no possible strategic move that can be the underlying reason for these insane directives. He is making a total ass out of himself by doing this, showing once again he has absolutely no concept of how democracy works.

If you think those close to him aren't freaking out, think again. They know when he goes, they go. Buh-bye job.

A friend of mine, who is a fairly distinguished lawyer with many publications to his name, has a little thought line that he plays out on people from time to time. It goes like this: the American system of democracy is so well thought out that it's hard to ram through it.

People here might disagree with that, having seen what we have seen with the legal system (not) holding him accountable, but the Inspectors General and now this are examples of how the system has checks and balances, tenuous as they may be.

Klarkashton

(2,783 posts)
3. Do I smell recession?
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:18 PM
Jan 28

Shut off the root source of real money for a while and see what happens. The libertarians and Birchers are going to have their dreams realized.

Klarkashton

(2,783 posts)
10. Screw around with federal funding even for a
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:30 PM
Jan 28

Short time and shit starts closing down and people instantly get laid off. It's a domino effect.
People lose faith and stop spending. It only takes a week.

EdmondDantes_

(241 posts)
11. For example all National Science Foundation grants just got stopped
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:33 PM
Jan 28

NIH grants, federal education funding. People get paid out of these funds. That money is no longer available, and there's no guess for how long. Those people suddenly can't pay their mortgage or buy stuff.

ananda

(31,185 posts)
31. How can there be a viable end game when all systems collapse?
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 09:21 PM
Jan 28

When all systems collapse, no system of government
can work in any fashion at all.

I see a very special kind of mental blindness in the
Republicans and the media that are enabling this.

in2herbs

(3,420 posts)
7. Are the Ds hoping to win this fight because they feel the pen is mightier than the sword? Enuf with
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:23 PM
Jan 28

sternly written letters and news articles.

LeftInTX

(32,048 posts)
12. Congress likely does not have standing to sue the president. It usually needs to be a state or a patient etc.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:34 PM
Jan 28

Standing is very important without it, case is tossed. It's not the Democrats fault.
It needs to be an "injured" party.

Congress can impeach him anytime. I believe impeachment is their "remedy". But they need the GOP on board.

TheRickles

(2,559 posts)
18. But several of these EOs usurp Congress's control of the purse strings.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:01 PM
Jan 28

So it seems they would have clear standing to sue, as their roles have been directly impacted by Trump's actions.

LeftInTX

(32,048 posts)
21. I'm not sure. I remember John Boehner's fued with Obama. He kept threatening to sue him.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:31 PM
Jan 28

In today's case, the state AGs sued because their states were impacted.

mahina

(19,350 posts)
28. Do you think that is helpful, even if it was true?
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:42 PM
Jan 28

How so?
It's an informative video, whatever one's perspective. You should really check it out.

bucolic_frolic

(48,372 posts)
9. Citizens have a right to accurate, consistent information from their government
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:29 PM
Jan 28

If all we get is fog, no one can make personal, business, or financial decisions. No one can plan the next day, week, or quarter. This is a power and control grab. Privilege. And you can't say anything about it.

Quiet Em

(1,523 posts)
13. The con is out of control.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:34 PM
Jan 28

Thank you Senator Patty Murray. Senator Murray doesn't look for or get a lot of attention but she is always working hard for the people. She's one the best.

CousinIT

(10,831 posts)
14. I encourage everyone to contact their reps, INCLUDING MAGAs. ONLY RAISING HOLY HELL
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:50 PM
Jan 28

may stop this bullshit.

THEY ARE CLEARLY HEARING FROM CONSTITUENTS as I guessed yesterday they soon would.

Threats of "Elon will pay to primary you!" will ring hollow if their own constituents are mad as hell and may not vote for them ever again anyway.

RAISE HOLY FUCKING HELL if you are affected by this. Call them. Tell them how this affects you or those you know, your colleagues, your family.

SHITLER'S ORDERS ARE ILLEGAL.

ONLY CONGRESS appropriates funding, NOT the OMB and NOT the President.

"We don't believe in that law!", is what SHitler's Project 2025 architects told them.

DEMAND THAT YOUR REPS TAKE THEM TO COURT over it.

THE LAW IS THE GODDAMNED LAW. Whether they "believe in it" or not doesn't matter.

BComplex

(9,228 posts)
16. Everyone with republican senators in their state need to be burning up the phone lines.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:31 PM
Jan 28

Go to the Senate website. Get your senator's Washington office and home office phone numbers. Call them!!! Over and over and over until they cry.

DO IT!!

MLAA

(18,850 posts)
19. I fear relying on Lindsey to do the right thing is a fool's errand. Hope there is a plan B.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:07 PM
Jan 28

So good to hear one of our senators speak up loudly and clearly.

rasputin1952

(83,436 posts)
32. I am lucky (?)...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:32 PM
Jan 28

I am in Lincoln NE these days and both Sen's (Rickets & Fischer) have an office in the same building. I will be visiting both tomorrow in the morning.

My Rep (Flood) is nearby, so his office is going to be the final one (if I don't get arrested). All three are R's, which makes it easy for me, they will get no mercy!

Then I have been a member of the Arbor Day Foundation for years, and I'll get more coffee, and make it my final visit. After the SoCal fires, they have the resources to plant a tree for a buck apiece in affected areas. $10, 10 trees, $50, 50 trees. Everything helps, and they have boots on the ground. https://www.arborday.org/

There is an Indivisible meet-up (video) on Feb 5, and I am hooking up with them as well. Lincoln has a Chapter, but I haven't been able to pinpoint the precise location.

We also have a Democratic Office here, but I think I'm going to have to be a little more pro-active, silence is NOT an option.

You can find your local Indivisible Group by going to their site: https://indivisible.org

Don't go it alone, there is strength in numbers and some damn good ideas that can be used locally, we can stop this!

Let's crush this!

Elessar Zappa

(16,292 posts)
35. I truly believe he won't get away
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 06:03 AM
Jan 29

with cutting programs like SNAP, Medicaid, Social Security, or Medicare. Too many people, as well as industries and hospitals, rely on those programs. The backlash would be too big.

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