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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(117,856 posts)
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:15 PM Tuesday

Muskrat reportedly tells X staff 'we're barely breaking even' as the big banks start getting antsy over their debt

Tech billionaire Elon Musk has been a public figure for decades, but has enjoyed an outsized profile in recent years, not a little of which is down to his decision to acquire Twitter for $44 billion in 2022. In the end, that deal was almost forced on Musk after the courts got involved, but you wouldn't know it from the way the trollish memester launched into his new role with various galaxy-brained schemes that mostly seem to have made Twitter worse: Including, of course, renaming it X.

A new report by the Wall Street Journal claims that some of the banks that helped Musk finance the deal are now getting a little antsy about their investment (some $13 billion of the total) and are looking into how they claw it back. Institutions including Bank of America, Barclays, and Morgan Stanley have been holding onto the debt, hoping for more favourable economic headwinds, and are now hoping to per the WSJ "sell senior debt at 90-95 cents on the dollar, while retaining more-junior holdings."

The waters will apparently be tested next week with a $3 billion package of debt, which follows a sale of $1 billion in debt to private investors. The problem for the banks is that it's widely believed Musk overpaid for the company, and its subsequent underperformance has only confirmed this in the eyes of many. The only real counter to this is Musk's new political position as some sort of right-hand man to President Donald Trump which, some investors believe, could augur well for the future X.

That may prove wildly optimistic (other investors are reportedly braced to take haircuts of around 75%), because few of Musk's grandiose pronouncements about Twitter/X have come to pass. The interest payments alone on Musk's deal amount to $1 billion a year, while new additions such as job listings and a dedicated video tab seem unlikely to make any dramatic change to the bottom line. At one stage Musk said X would become "the everything app", which users could basically live their lives through: That seems like a pipe dream.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/musk-reportedly-tells-x-staff-172612240.html

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Muskrat reportedly tells X staff 'we're barely breaking even' as the big banks start getting antsy over their debt (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Tuesday OP
Sorry rich dude Inkey Tuesday #1
He undoubtedly has the debt structured so that he is not personally liable for it. Norrrm Tuesday #9
Word was they are offering their investments at a loss Klarkashton Tuesday #2
breaking even is an improvement for them... WarGamer Tuesday #3
To be fair, Elon isn't known for telling the truth. They could be losing money hand over fist EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #5
It's already served its purpose and he no longer cares. Basso8vb Tuesday #4
Reading Tea Leaves modrepub Tuesday #6
In other words C_U_L8R Tuesday #7
Ahhh, Banks and other investment vehicles are seeing the light, that muskrat doesn't run a business, he runs them SWBTATTReg Tuesday #8

EdmondDantes_

(217 posts)
5. To be fair, Elon isn't known for telling the truth. They could be losing money hand over fist
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:37 PM
Tuesday

And given they have invented new engagement standards and lost a bunch of advertisers, seems more likely that they aren't even barely breaking even.

Basso8vb

(616 posts)
4. It's already served its purpose and he no longer cares.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:33 PM
Tuesday

He happily took that loss to help install the orange menace.

modrepub

(3,678 posts)
6. Reading Tea Leaves
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:41 PM
Tuesday

The big banks are looking to unload their loans they made to Musk so he could purchase Twitter. I found this article this morning with this blurb:

The Wall Street Journal earlier reported on the banks’ plans, noting that they are shopping senior portions of the debt that would give them back around $0.90 to $0.95 on the dollar.

So, if their only loosing 5-10% of their original loan, why are they trying so hard to discharge it? Is there something worse going on in the Musk universe than what the rest of us schlubs are aware of?

SWBTATTReg

(24,627 posts)
8. Ahhh, Banks and other investment vehicles are seeing the light, that muskrat doesn't run a business, he runs them
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:29 PM
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into the ground. Just because he had a winner one time w/ his tesla/cars, and other things, and scored big in the stock markets, doesn't mean he is good for the long haul. His toxic mouth has cost him a lot of customers and I suspect that it's going to continue, his mouth running all of the time, when tRUMP and his thugs pay less and less attention to him and his contribution on getting tRUMP elected fades into the background (as they seem to be doing, now as we speak).

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