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themaguffin

(4,317 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:58 AM Yesterday

It is not a "buyout." Employees get no money. No severance. Nothing.

the offer is "commit now to quitting in on September and you can work from home until then"

That's it.

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It is not a "buyout." Employees get no money. No severance. Nothing. (Original Post) themaguffin Yesterday OP
Sounds like a standard trump deal. Think. Again. Yesterday #1
He would be making them quit versus getting fired. no_hypocrisy Yesterday #2
even worse there is a clause that says they can move up the date you retire if they want, but not extend it. Blues Heron Yesterday #3
Fortunately... 2naSalit Yesterday #4
My husband has not been offered this deal, but even if he had been he says he will not quit. LiberalLoner Yesterday #9
Good for him! SheltieLover 23 hrs ago #12
❤️❤️❤️ LiberalLoner 23 hrs ago #14
Healthcare gone Walleye Yesterday #5
Oh, no golden healthcare plan like congresfolks get? SheltieLover 23 hrs ago #13
Pension Rebl2 22 hrs ago #19
MAGAs go for it... Lovie777 Yesterday #6
The service we get now from SS, IRS, USPS suck now, what will it be like doc03 Yesterday #7
They're not getting rid of 2 million people. Wiz Imp 22 hrs ago #24
THANK YOU!!!!! I have been trying to tell people that. LiberalLoner Yesterday #8
Exactly. The budget ends in a month... littlemissmartypants Yesterday #10
My employer was 1/2 month for every year exboyfil Yesterday #11
Trump will stiff all of them. It's what he does. Ray Bruns 23 hrs ago #15
How is the IRS going to process all the tax returns? Wicked Blue 23 hrs ago #16
Golden Parachute packed by Wiley Coyote Bo Zarts 22 hrs ago #17
Do you have a link for that? Wiz Imp 22 hrs ago #18
Here's some. Tim Kane warned it's a scam. There is no money budgeted for the payout. SunSeeker 22 hrs ago #25
Thanks. Wiz Imp 21 hrs ago #26
Only drunk russians would want government collapse Nigrum Cattus 22 hrs ago #20
Exactly. Elon issued the same "Fork in the Road" email at X, then stiffed his employees. SunSeeker 22 hrs ago #21
Two "stiff"-ers: Trump and Musk aren't to be trusted. live love laugh 21 hrs ago #27
It's an attempt to break the Unions. There was an earlier article yesterday about how the Trumpinistas were trying to... Hugin 22 hrs ago #22
Treating government workers like those he employed when building his properties and casinos and then kimbutgar 22 hrs ago #23

no_hypocrisy

(49,759 posts)
2. He would be making them quit versus getting fired.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:02 AM
Yesterday

Getting fired would mean:

unemployment insurance (provided Trump doesn't claim their firings were for cause)
and
opportunity to sue for wrongful termination

Blues Heron

(6,284 posts)
3. even worse there is a clause that says they can move up the date you retire if they want, but not extend it.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:03 AM
Yesterday

you could sign it today and be out net week with no cash whatsoever.

2naSalit

(94,642 posts)
4. Fortunately...
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:05 AM
Yesterday

Most of them are too intelligent to be fooled by this. I hope this blows up in his face too.

LiberalLoner

(10,287 posts)
9. My husband has not been offered this deal, but even if he had been he says he will not quit.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:12 AM
Yesterday

Lovie777

(15,942 posts)
6. MAGAs go for it...
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:09 AM
Yesterday

ya know shithole is good for it, cause those liberals always lie.

Wink 😉

doc03

(37,255 posts)
7. The service we get now from SS, IRS, USPS suck now, what will it be like
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:10 AM
Yesterday

with two million less workers.

Wiz Imp

(3,102 posts)
24. They're not getting rid of 2 million people.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:15 AM
22 hrs ago

I don't know where that confusion is coming from. There are 2 million people being offered this deal. The point is they want everyone working in office 5 days a week and they hope/figure this will get a small percentage of them to quit rather than return to the office full time. They expect at most 10% to take this offer. That's 200,000, not 2 million.

In reality, I expect far less than 10% to take the deal

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/28/trump-buyouts-federal-workers.html
Trump administration offering buyouts to nearly all federal workers

The Trump administration is offering millions of federal workers the option to accept buyouts through a government-wide “deferred resignation” program.

The offers come as President Donald Trump’s administration pushes federal employees to return to the office five days per week.

The White House expects up to 10% of federal employees to take the buyout, an official told NBC News.

littlemissmartypants

(26,360 posts)
10. Exactly. The budget ends in a month...
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:13 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:15 AM - Edit history (1)

And the MAGA don't even have a framework for the new budget. So, there's no money for this scheme.

It was initiated by Elon Musk. I just watched a news segment that used a word for word quote comparison with the memo Twitter sent out.

It was when he did his mass layoffs (when many ultimately didn't get compensation) and the wording was exactly the same in some places. Exactly.

It's a total scam and a disgusting insult to these dedicated public servants.

exboyfil

(18,084 posts)
11. My employer was 1/2 month for every year
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:16 AM
Yesterday

Up to 12 months. I got 10 1/2 months plus another two months of WARN (federal law with mass terminations without prior notice). Fortunately I found another position within 10 weeks (70 percent of my old salary when you consider bonus). Hopefully I can get a grade bump in the next couple of years.

Federal workers should seek a better deal unless they have something else already lined up.

Ray Bruns

(4,868 posts)
15. Trump will stiff all of them. It's what he does.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:14 AM
23 hrs ago

It’s not like Trump hasn’t stiffed anyone before. Ask Rudy Giuliani, Erie PA ($40k), El Paso TX ($569k), Missoula County MT ($13k), and Mesa AZ ($65k).

Wiz Imp

(3,102 posts)
18. Do you have a link for that?
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:54 AM
22 hrs ago

I believe you may be right, but that is not what is being reported everywhere.

Wiz Imp

(3,102 posts)
26. Thanks.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:36 AM
21 hrs ago

I know Kaine called it a scam but it appeared to me he was saying if you took the offer and resigned, you would never get the 8 month payout seemingly offered.

I still haven't seen anywhere where it explicitly states that accepting the offer means you continue to telework for 8 month then you're done. In fact, after thinking about it, that doesn't even make sense because there is still a large portion of these 2 million workers who received this "offer" who have been working 5 days a week in the office all along so that would mean they are being offered nothing.

Also, the one link you had this:

Additional info: A follow-up memo said employees who accept the resignation offer would "promptly" have their duties reassigned or eliminated, and be placed on administrative leave.
which certainly implies they are not going to continue to telework for 8 months.

I wish someone would put out a clearly worded explanation for what's going on. I don't expect that from the Trump administration. They sent out this message and it was not at all clear (whether that was intentional or unintentional is also unclear), but their purpose was I think to create panic among the workforce. I'm not sure there is anyone in the Trump administration who is capable of delivering their intended message clearly.

Nigrum Cattus

(308 posts)
20. Only drunk russians would want government collapse
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:06 AM
22 hrs ago

We have to ask why ?
Less people doesn't equal more efficiency.
Are they going to replace those workers with A.I. ?

SunSeeker

(54,290 posts)
21. Exactly. Elon issued the same "Fork in the Road" email at X, then stiffed his employees.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:10 AM
22 hrs ago

From Alt National Park Service, an underground National Park Service employee group resisting Trump's illegality:

Musk and his team have hostilely taken over OPM. The email sent to federal employees tonight closely mirrors the infamous “Fork in the Road” message sent to Twitter (now X) staff after Musk’s 2022 takeover. Elon is actively working with the Trump administration to build profiles on federal workers based on loyalty (political standing).

If you didn’t respond to OPM’s original email asking for confirmation that you received this email with a “yes,” we strongly recommend doing so. Musk’s staff has discussed dismissing anyone who doesn’t comply. For those outside our coalition who are concerned, seeking legal counsel may be advisable.

We are distributing more information directly to coalition members and have been meticulously documenting everything. More details will be released in the future. Also, remember—Elon didn’t pay his people at X who took the buyout.

Additional info: A follow-up memo said employees who accept the resignation offer would "promptly" have their duties reassigned or eliminated, and be placed on administrative leave.
https://www.facebook.com/100064806036542/posts/pfbid02x85hu9XTvyc5QoXUHk2gQ5nXfprwTVoVjn7QBraeb2H86U8u1ykGBpjA3gTFYznRl/?mibextid=Nif5oz

Hugin

(35,213 posts)
22. It's an attempt to break the Unions. There was an earlier article yesterday about how the Trumpinistas were trying to...
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:12 AM
22 hrs ago

Grapple with the fact that many of the Remote Work Feds are also under bargaining units with existing contacts.

I guess this is their “final solution”.

kimbutgar

(23,917 posts)
23. Treating government workers like those he employed when building his properties and casinos and then
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:13 AM
22 hrs ago

Screwing them over and not them.

RESIST!

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