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Tickle

(3,632 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:39 AM Jan 29

Trump launches anti-Semitism crackdown as he orders deportation of pro-Hamas

students who terrorized campuses

President Donald Trump will launch an anti-Semitism crackdown on Wednesday when he signs an executive order instructing federal agencies to find ways to deport anti-Jewish activists who violated laws, including students on college campuses.

The executive order will allow the deportation of resident aliens — including students with visas — who broke laws as part of anti-Israel protests following the October 7th attacks in Israel, DailyMail.com confirmed.

Trump, during his presidential campaign, called for the deportation of pro-Hamas students who are in the United States on visas.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14338259/Trump-deport-students-college-campus-protests-antisemite.html



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Trump launches anti-Semitism crackdown as he orders deportation of pro-Hamas (Original Post) Tickle Jan 29 OP
Who's going to determine who is "pro-Hamas" choie Jan 29 #1
I appreciate the laugh today-- Tickle Jan 29 #5
Before long, Trump will be issuing orders to deport US citizens who criticize him. Lonestarblue Jan 29 #2
His minions have already called for the Episcopal bishop to be deported DBoon Jan 29 #9
But Kamala would have done the same, right? newdeal2 Jan 29 #3
More FAFO for the "Uncommitted" idiots. nt SunSeeker Jan 29 #4
I don't agree with this very obvious illegal EO, MarineCombatEngineer Jan 29 #6
Let's hope there is a next time. nt Tickle Jan 29 #7
They NEVER learn. All the way back to Gore who wasn't PURE enough. Gore/Bush Bush/Gore Maru Kitteh Jan 29 #17
Ask me how many shits I give Mountainguy Jan 29 #8
Took the words outta my mouth! Coventina Jan 29 #11
WTF? malaise Jan 29 #10
Ya know what? MarineCombatEngineer Jan 29 #14
This was the logical conclusion of the "Genocie Joe" crowd's efforts. maga should Maru Kitteh Jan 29 #12
Abandon Harris 24... sarisataka Jan 29 #13
Unfair, you say? AloeVera Jan 29 #15
I prefer to be concise sarisataka Jan 29 #16
The "warning" was in both directions. Yet only one side is now held responsible and taunted with "FAFO" and.. AloeVera Jan 29 #23
I hated what was happening in Gaza Keepthesoulalive Jan 29 #26
Ding, ding, ding, MarineCombatEngineer Jan 29 #27
I happen to agree with a lot of what you say. Thanks for the civil response, btw. AloeVera Jan 29 #29
Emotion can short circuit reason Keepthesoulalive Jan 29 #32
The IMEU Gaza poll you're referencing is obvious made up garbage. Mosby Jan 29 #28
Here's a reaction for you. How about FUCK THEM for helping Trump? Maru Kitteh Jan 29 #19
This IS Democratic Underground, isn't it? Why yes, yes it is! AloeVera Jan 29 #20
Yes it is, where we're allowed to express our opinions as long as it's within the TOS MarineCombatEngineer Jan 29 #21
I find the idea of using my body to protect those who worked hard to make my country mean, Beastly Boy Jan 29 #24
BLAH BLAH BLAH. Repeat yourself at will. Facts remain, they got what they worked for. Maru Kitteh Jan 29 #25
.......activists who violated laws, Ping Tung Jan 29 #18
Pure FAFO baby BluenFLA Jan 29 #22
Trump is really making it less safe for Jews in this country. I hope some can explain this to him. nt Jit423 Jan 29 #30
Is being pro-Palestinian the same as being pro-Hamas???? Jit423 Jan 29 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 29 #34
Is Eloon included? LS0999 Jan 29 #33
Welcome to DU LS0999. MarineCombatEngineer Jan 29 #35
No sympathy. nt LexVegas Jan 29 #36

choie

(5,212 posts)
1. Who's going to determine who is "pro-Hamas"
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:50 AM
Jan 29

who is "pro-Palestinian" and who is anti-semitic? Where's the due process?

On edit - why am I asking these questions. The answer is there is no due process.

Tickle

(3,632 posts)
5. I appreciate the laugh today--
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:06 PM
Jan 29

I really needed it.

It seems that anyone advocating for the rights of Palestinians in Gaza risks being swiftly silenced or targeted. The situation is deeply troubling—may reason and justice prevail.







Lonestarblue

(12,392 posts)
2. Before long, Trump will be issuing orders to deport US citizens who criticize him.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:52 AM
Jan 29

Justice John Roberts, what do you think now of giving Trump almost unlimited immunity to do whatever he wants?

DBoon

(23,579 posts)
9. His minions have already called for the Episcopal bishop to be deported
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:41 PM
Jan 29

despite having been born in New Jersey

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,966 posts)
6. I don't agree with this very obvious illegal EO,
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:11 PM
Jan 29

but I do gotta point out that those protesters and their supporters helped get Been A Dick Donald back into the WH, they are reaping what they helped sow.
Maybe next time, if there is a next time, they'll think twice about what the fuck they were doing.

Maru Kitteh

(29,758 posts)
17. They NEVER learn. All the way back to Gore who wasn't PURE enough. Gore/Bush Bush/Gore
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:51 PM
Jan 29

ONLY Ralph Nader was a ‘worthy’ candidate! They just couldn’t be persuaded to vote for “Republican Lite.” Always the same faithless actors. Always the same script around purity tests and the sacredness and sanctity of their usually white, privileged vote.



Mountainguy

(1,549 posts)
8. Ask me how many shits I give
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:25 PM
Jan 29

About the "Genocide Joe" crowd getting deported.

They were warned what would happen if they helped Trumo get elected and now they get what they asked for.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,966 posts)
14. Ya know what?
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:49 PM
Jan 29

I don't give 2 fucks about this, they made their bed by helping get Been A Dick Donald back into the WH with their Genocide Joe bullshit, now they get to sleep in it.
I sure hope it was worth it to them, other than that, fuck 'em.

Maru Kitteh

(29,758 posts)
12. This was the logical conclusion of the "Genocie Joe" crowd's efforts. maga should
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:47 PM
Jan 29

Throw them a going away party replete with weed, alcohol and hookers - after all, the “Genocide Joe” crowd was absolutely ESSENTIAL in their efforts to get Trump elected! Republicans shouldn’t have any trouble coming up with the weed, booze and hookers. They have plenty.

sarisataka

(21,604 posts)
13. Abandon Harris 24...
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:08 PM
Jan 29

They sowed the wind







and will now reap the whirlwind

I can agree it is unfair, but I have little sympathy. They knew exactly what the risk was when they made their choice

AloeVera

(2,338 posts)
15. Unfair, you say?
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:29 PM
Jan 29

Don't you mean anti-democratic, fascistic and frightening? No longer just a slippery slope but a full view of the abyss?

Surely you don't mean to imply that they "deserve" to be stripped of their rights, deported/imprisoned/displaced and their lives turned upside down? Like the people of Gaza?

That seems a pretty transactional way of looking at democracy and democratic elections. "If you don't give me what I want, if you disagree with me, if you vote the wrong way - I have no sympathy if you lose all your rights like in a banana republic and I won't stand up for you".

It seems to me also that were it another minority group being targeted - blacks, jews, hispanics, LGBTQ+ etc - the outrage would be loud and authentic - as it should be. But there is something about Muslims/Arabs... what would that be??

Lots of rhetorical questions and I don't expect a response, but perhaps some reflection by the "FAFO crowd" here.

Everyone knows the Niemöller poem. He was initially a supporter of Hitler so I found something by the late great James Baldwin that I thought I'd include here. It's from a letter he wrote to Angela Davis in 1970. It's beautiful. He concludes with:

If we know, then we must fight for your life as though it were our own—which it is—and render impassable with our bodies the corridor to the gas chamber. For, if they take you in the morning, they will be coming for us that night.

Therefore: peace.


On edit: link added
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1971/01/07/an-open-letter-to-my-sister-miss-angela-davis/

sarisataka

(21,604 posts)
16. I prefer to be concise
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:38 PM
Jan 29

But I will spell it out- I do not in any way support or condone the revocation of visas or deportation of those who exercised their First Amendment rights

Interesting how you used the term "transactional"

That seems a pretty transactional way of looking at democracy and democratic elections. "If you don't give me what I want, if you disagree with me, if you vote the wrong way -...


That is exactly what the "Genocide Joe" and "Abandon Harris" participated in. They were reminded that they were directly supporting the party that wanted to deport them, was anti-Palestinian and much more pro-Israel. Yet they chose the path anyway.

Do you recall how many minimized the threats they were making? 'It's just symbolic, they will come back in the GE'
They didn't.

AloeVera

(2,338 posts)
23. The "warning" was in both directions. Yet only one side is now held responsible and taunted with "FAFO" and..
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 06:23 PM
Jan 29

"no sympathy".

Which, by the way, seems like just a nicer way of saying "FAFO".

But I am glad to hear your unconditional support for First Amendment rights. There should be no exemptions - we are all equal, right?

Warning your party that their actions or lack thereof will result in loss of support is not transactional. It's a declaration of a very basic democratic principle. We vote - or not vote -according to our conscience and our beliefs. Who among us can say with certainty that if it were OUR people, our tribe, our young kids, subjected to the bombs provided by OUR party, how we would vote? None of us are in their shoes, luckily. But we should be able to recognize the impossible position they were in and the impossible choices they had to make. Maybe we should ask why they were put in that position in the first place.

An alarming recent poll found that of the MILLIONS of "lost votes" for Harris (those who voted for Biden but did not vote in 2024), about a third gave their reason as Gaza. These people were not all Muslims/Arabs. Like wth? Shouldn't that prompt some urgent, critical self-reflection, some outreach or reconciliation with those voters? Some rethinking of foreign policy positions? They may be lost forever otherwise.

Maybe it's just easier to keep blaming "them" and engage in the unseemly schadenfreude of FAFO (not directed at you, but I have seen it too many times).

Keepthesoulalive

(1,068 posts)
26. I hated what was happening in Gaza
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:02 PM
Jan 29

But the only one who could Help them was Harris. Trump told them what he was going to do and he has done it before. They blamed Biden for a situation that seemed manufactured to interfere in our elections. They were warned and as we are all finding out actions have consequences and we are all paying the price for their stupidity.

AloeVera

(2,338 posts)
29. I happen to agree with a lot of what you say. Thanks for the civil response, btw.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:35 PM
Jan 29

Here is the thing: they didn't BELIEVE Harris would help them or that she would be better for Gaza. Why didn't they believe it is the question Democrats should be asking. And why was Gaza a dealbreaker for so many Democrats? And why was Netanyahu allowed/able to sabotage a ceasefire time after time, or lay waste to Gaza and starve its population? Aside from the immorality of it, all of it made Biden look bad which played into both Trump and Netanyahu's schemes. Why did all of it unfold the way it did?

Those are hard questions. I don't know if they will ever be asked, let alone answered and that's really too bad.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,068 posts)
32. Emotion can short circuit reason
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:19 PM
Jan 29

There were a lot of bad players pushing propaganda on both sides. You don’t hear about the atrocities anymore, not because they have stopped but there is no need anymore. The newspapers and blogs carried their message and they won.

Mosby

(18,221 posts)
28. The IMEU Gaza poll you're referencing is obvious made up garbage.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:27 PM
Jan 29

The entire non profit is biased against the Democratic party and Zionists. They literally admit to their biases:

It's clear: Harris lost A LOT of votes because of the Biden admin's support for Israel’s genocide.


Yeah, that's not biased, lol.

A big reason Democratic candidates ignore their voters is their reliance on megadonor-backed super PACs like AIPAC, which spent record amounts of dark money in 2024 attacking those who opposed Israel’s genocide. Voters Harris lost want super PAC money out of Democratic primaries.


AIPAC isn't even in the top 25 PACs. Lost voters think the Democrats should not accept super pac money? Complete bullshit.

The Democratic Party needs to come to terms with the real reasons it lost the presidency in November, including because after over a year of unprecedented protests and calls for Biden to stop sending weapons to Israel, party leadership failed to listen to its own voters.


Uh huh.


Maru Kitteh

(29,758 posts)
19. Here's a reaction for you. How about FUCK THEM for helping Trump?
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 05:17 PM
Jan 29

It’s honest, and concise. They knew there were exactly two viable candidates and they sure as FUCK KNEW they were not helping Harris - so FUCK THEM. They got what they worked for.



MarineCombatEngineer

(14,966 posts)
21. Yes it is, where we're allowed to express our opinions as long as it's within the TOS
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 05:55 PM
Jan 29

and I agree 100% that they helped get that blob of pig shit re-elected, so now they're reaping what they helped sow.
did they really think would happen?
Did they think that because they went against Harris/Walz that Been A Dick Donald would spare them?
Well, looks like they badly miscalculated.
I have zero fucks to give, they got what they wanted, now they have to live with the consequences.

Beastly Boy

(11,805 posts)
24. I find the idea of using my body to protect those who worked hard to make my country mean,
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 06:36 PM
Jan 29

Last edited Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:47 AM - Edit history (2)

anti-democratic, fascistic and frightening a bit hard to justify. I have no problem acknowledging their deportation to be anti-democratic in the same breath as I denounce their contributions to it having taken place. I will also point out that there are many good pro-democratic people who made no ridiculous demands and didn't vote for Trump but will nevertheless suffer the same fate because of them.

I would suggest that a clear distinction between the former and the latter is in order when invoking Baldwin.

Maru Kitteh

(29,758 posts)
25. BLAH BLAH BLAH. Repeat yourself at will. Facts remain, they got what they worked for.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 06:37 PM
Jan 29

Congratulations are in order for everyone who cheered them on.

Ping Tung

(1,777 posts)
18. .......activists who violated laws,
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:53 PM
Jan 29

Were they arrested? Tried anf found guilty?

Or is this just another goofy idea that he hopes to cheered for?

Jit423

(1,027 posts)
30. Trump is really making it less safe for Jews in this country. I hope some can explain this to him. nt
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:38 PM
Jan 29

Response to Jit423 (Reply #31)

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,966 posts)
35. Welcome to DU LS0999.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:44 PM
Jan 29

I love your description of him, although I would've called him a Spaced Out Nazi.

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