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Daleuhlmann

(62 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:01 AM 22 hrs ago

Start Suing, Democratic cities!

Last edited Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:05 PM - Edit history (1)

Yesterday, I had mentioned Cleveland Mayor Bibbs' refusal to let his city's police assist ICE's enforcement of Trump's Nazi-style detainment and depoeration policies against local immigrants. However, he and other Democratic mayors must do more, by filing lawsuits in federal court. That is what the cities of New York CIty and Chicago should have done when Texas' Greg Abbott and Floria's Ron DeSantis shipped to them, without prior notice or permission, busloads of undocumented immigrants and dumped them on .city streets. Start suing their asses!

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sop

(12,183 posts)
1. If past history has taught us anything, it's that suing Trump is the only thing he understands.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:09 AM
22 hrs ago

Apparently, litigation is Trump's Achilles' heel. It's the only way anyone has ever been able to hold him accountable.

choie

(4,938 posts)
2. Our mayor, Eric Adams, is certainly not going to sue
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:21 PM
21 hrs ago

He's too busy trying to get a pardon.

LeftInTX

(31,904 posts)
3. Chicago sued, but it's long and winded.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:40 PM
21 hrs ago

However, it's different when a city sues the federal govt versus another state.
I think eventually Chicago went after the bus companies.
And Chicago also did some other things.
Eventually, they dropped migrants outside the Chicago city limits.
Also under the Biden admin, those migrants were considered "temporarily legal". Now that Trump has changed protections for people from Venezuela and other countries, I don't know how that works.

With regards to the current situation, Chicago is considered to be a "border" city. I don't know how that works, but it seems to be in the middle of the heartland to me. I guess because the Great Lakes are international bodies of water??

I know we're talking about ICE, but I also think border patrol might also be involved in some of this BS too.


dickthegrouch

(3,774 posts)
6. Don't forget all those small city international airports!
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:50 PM
20 hrs ago

And some not so small, DEN, DFW, SLC, for instance.
They all have immigration control lanes.

Daleuhlmann

(62 posts)
7. Thank You for Your Response
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:10 PM
20 hrs ago

Thank you for [thus added information. In response, I'd like to say that suing the business were not enough. They also needed to sue these red states' governors and attorney generals.

LetMyPeopleVote

(157,107 posts)
4. MaddowBlog-Democratic AGs sue Trump admin over federal grants freeze amid widespread confusion
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:44 PM
20 hrs ago

The question was when, not whether, Trump’s funding freeze would face a legal challenge. A group of Democratic state attorneys general answered soon after.
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The question was when, not whether, Trump’s new policy would face a legal challenge. The public did not have to wait too long for an answer.

In a morning news conference, Schumer told reporters that New York Attorney General Letitia James was “going to court” to contest the White House’s “illegal” move. The senator knew of what he spoke: The state’s Democratic attorney general has, in fact, already filed suit taking aim at the president’s legally dubious spending freeze.

She’s partnering in this case with Democratic attorneys general from 21 other states and the District of Columbia: Rob Bonta of California, Kwame Raoul of Illinois, Andrea Campbell of Massachusetts, Matt Platkin of New Jersey, Peter Neronha of Rhode Island, Kris Mayes of Arizona, Phil Weiser of Colorado, William Tong of Connecticut, Kathy Jennings of Delaware, Brian Schwalb of Washington, D.C., Anne Lopez of Hawaii, Aaron Frey of Maine, Anthony G. Brown of Maryland, Dana Nessel of Michigan, General Keith Ellison of Minnesota, Aaron Ford of Nevada, Jeff Jackson of North Carolina, Raúl Torrez of New Mexico, Dan Rayfield of Oregon, Charity Clark of Vermont, Nicholas W. Brown of Washington and Josh Kaul of Wisconsin.

This lawsuit is separate from a related case filed by a coalition of nonprofits and public health advocates, who collectively asked a federal judge for an emergency order to block the White House’s policy. That judge issued an administrative stay on Tuesday afternoon that pushed the start date of the federal funding freeze to Monday at 5 p.m. ET while litigation plays out......

And while that might’ve sounded reassuring, NBC News also reported on some of the preliminary consequences of Team Trump’s gambit.

Nonprofit organizations reached by NBC News said some of their funding appeared to have already been cut off, and they were scrambling to figure out what the implications could be for their programs, like those providing health care, housing and early childhood education.


There are related reports about state-based Medicaid portals’ shutting down as a result of the White House’s move, though administration officials are apparently working to address this.

As for the likely fate of the new cases, NBC News published a separate report noting that the issue could make its way to the U.S. Supreme Court quickly.

Although the court has a 6-3 conservative majority, including three Trump appointees, legal experts say this could be one of several uphill legal battles the administration has picked. There are also Supreme Court precedents that have acknowledged restrictions on presidential power when it comes to how money is spent. In 1974, around the time the Impoundment Control Act was enacted, the court ruled against the Nixon administration in an attempt to withhold funding aimed at reducing water pollution.


Watch this space.

LeftInTX

(31,904 posts)
5. I live in a Democratic city in Abbott's red state. ICE will now be visiting our jail every three hours.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:50 PM
20 hrs ago

However, Texas passed some laws a few years ago. (Can't keep up with all of them) Basically, cities can get in trouble if they resist state laws. Since Ohio is red, I'm surprised Ohio doesn't have a similar law.

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