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This is where they were kind of like where we are think of them now and us in the future
Autumn
(46,998 posts)Polybius
(18,930 posts)While the Soviets didn't win the war, it sadly forever changed them.
Kid Berwyn
(18,899 posts)From a memo from National Security Advisor Brzezinski to President Carter:
A SOVIET VIETNAM?
However, we should not be too sanguine about Afghanistan becoming a Soviet Vietnam:
A. The guerrillas are badly organized and poorly led;
B. They have no sanctuary, no organized army, and no central government all of which North Vietnam had;
C. They have limited foreign support, in contrast to the enormous amount of arms that flowed to the Vietnamese from both the Soviet Union and China;
D. The Soviets are likely to act decisively, unlike the U.S., which pursued in Vietnam a policy of inoculating the enemy. As a consequence, the Soviets might be able to assert themselves effectively, and [in] world politics nothing succeeds like success, whatever the moral aspects.
Source: https://sites.temple.edu/immerman/brezenski-memoranda-to-carter-on-soviet-intervention-in-afghanistan/
We the People helped sow death and destruction on Afghanistan to get back at the Soviet Union for all the evil they perpetrated on the planet. In the process of destroying a fledgling democratic nation that had voted in a socialist leader, we got ourselves Reagan and Poppy Bush's New World Order (including Bush longtime family friend, Osama bin Laden) that led to Baby Doc Bush's post 9-11's a Global War on Terror.
Polybius
(18,930 posts)Was there any stopping the USSR from invading Afghanistan?
Kid Berwyn
(18,899 posts)...destroying Afghanistan is a bad thing which brought down the USSR which is a good thing.
The USSR was crumbling anyway. In 1970, Andrei Amalrik, twice exiled to the Gulag, detailed it:
Will the Soviet Union Survive Until 1984?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3368345
Lookit how Capitalism's Invisible Army archived the book's reception:
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP88-01350R000200800006-0.pdf
Wild blueberry
(7,338 posts)Very poignant. I am also going to see this as us living in cycles. We in the United States are in a very bad one now, but we can work together to make life better for everyone. We all do better when we all do better.
Rot in hell, broligarchs.