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Dennis Donovan

(28,454 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:46 PM 20 hrs ago

Greg Sargent: Trump's First Big Fiasco Triggers Stephen Miller's Rage--Take Note Dems

Greg Sargent - (archived: https://archive.ph/0RLFq ) Trump’s First Big Fiasco Triggers Stephen Miller’s Rage—Take Note Dems

January 29, 2025

PAY ATTENTION!
Trump’s First Big Fiasco Triggers Stephen Miller’s Rage—Take Note Dems
The Democrats finally started to find their legs after Trump’s spending freeze. The key lesson? Making sheer political noise about something does make a difference.


Admitting failure is anathema to the authoritarian leader, who is perpetually in danger of being diminished by those who are resentful of his glory—which is why White House adviser Stephen Miller is frantically searching for scapegoats to blame for the unfolding disaster around President Donald Trump’s massive freeze on federal spending. “Welcome to the first dumb media hoax of 2025,” Miller angrily tweeted on Tuesday night. “Leftwing media outright lied, and some people fell for the hoax.”

What Miller is actually angry about is that the media covered this fiasco aggressively and fairly. Miller insists that the press glossed over the funding pause’s supposed exemption for “aid and benefit programs.” But this is rank misdirection: The funding freeze, which is likely illegal, was indeed confusingly drafted and recklessly rolled out. This is in part what prompted the national outcry over the huge swath of programs that it threatened, Medicaid benefits included—and the media coverage that angered Miller.

All of which carries a lesson for Democrats: This is what it looks like when the opposition stirs and uses its power in a unified way to make a lot of what you might call sheer political noise. That can help set the media agenda, throw Trump and his allies on the defensive, and deliver defeats to Trump that deflate his cultish aura of invincibility.

“This has been a red-alert moment for weeks—but now no one can deny it,” Senator Chris Murphy, the Connecticut Democrat who has argued for an emergency footing against Trump, told me. “For my colleagues that didn’t want to cry wolf, the wolf is literally chomping at our leg right now.”

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Greg Sargent: Trump's First Big Fiasco Triggers Stephen Miller's Rage--Take Note Dems (Original Post) Dennis Donovan 20 hrs ago OP
Huh. Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #1
Right? (n/t) OldBaldy1701E 19 hrs ago #13
What needs to be emphasized liberalgunwilltravel 18 hrs ago #23
Miller is the man behind the Mitchenstein Monster's curtain... Hugin 20 hrs ago #2
You mean could NOT care less BonnieJW 19 hrs ago #9
Yes, "in a unified way" very important. We like to be individuals, but we need to get together to fight fascism. Walleye 20 hrs ago #3
I'd love to last longer than this guy Katcat 20 hrs ago #4
I hope I can do something else Marthe48 19 hrs ago #20
When you get done,... would you please hand me the Charmin ? magicarpet 9 min ago #51
I feel the same way. Katinfl 18 hrs ago #27
Me Too MissouriDem47 17 hrs ago #31
Take a number! calimary 10 hrs ago #40
me too gopiscrap 9 hrs ago #46
Take a lesson from the Repugs - yell constantly and repeat repeat repeat. NoMoreRepugs 20 hrs ago #5
And maybe not flat out lie, but use hyperbole JCMach1 20 hrs ago #6
Absolutely! KPN 19 hrs ago #15
THIS! calimary 10 hrs ago #41
Repubs have been "making noise" for decades... Wounded Bear 20 hrs ago #7
I have been Saying that for months. Butterflylady 20 hrs ago #8
Key word: yelling. KPN 19 hrs ago #16
It's not as though we haven't been caterwauling for the past ten years. It's that they are blatant more UTUSN 19 hrs ago #10
That is definitely a big part of it. They are actually openly hurting KPN 19 hrs ago #18
Bunch of idiots Dem4life1234 10 hrs ago #43
THIS Wild blueberry 19 hrs ago #11
MaddowBlog-With chaotic freeze gambit, the Trump White House shows its incompetence (again) LetMyPeopleVote 19 hrs ago #12
They will end up blaming AI for writing the poor memo. NoMoreRepugs 18 hrs ago #25
Combination of stupid and evil Dem4life1234 9 hrs ago #44
Begin an impeachment inquiry stollen 19 hrs ago #14
How does a quick loss help us? onenote 14 hrs ago #38
Border Czar pissed immigrents know their rights. Miller pissed media reported some truth. Attilatheblond 19 hrs ago #17
Trump's "Shock and Awe" of incompetence and stupidity. nt SunSeeker 19 hrs ago #19
"which is why White House adviser Stephen Miller is frantically searching for scapegoats" blame it on emu. Javaman 19 hrs ago #21
In a sane society Miller would be in prison orangecrush 19 hrs ago #22
How has he not ended up prison with his evil self? Dem4life1234 14 hrs ago #36
Fight fight fight lame54 18 hrs ago #24
Lesson: Stand Up to Bullies. Kid Berwyn 18 hrs ago #26
Miller can fuck himself in the face. stollen 18 hrs ago #28
Kennedy sure didn't get the good looking genes of his family did he? Dem4life1234 14 hrs ago #37
Baby Goebbels has a sad 😥 surfered 18 hrs ago #29
I expect to see more back-tracking and blame-laying. pfitz59 18 hrs ago #30
They don't have the capacity of self reflection Dem4life1234 9 hrs ago #45
No idiot mr Rebl2 17 hrs ago #32
It blows my mind that they still play he "leftwing media" card after 40+ years, and at least half the country STILL Karasu 16 hrs ago #33
I've got an idea: Let's deport Miller, Homan, and Trmp MurrayDelph 15 hrs ago #34
Works for me! calimary 10 hrs ago #42
Wish stage left 7 hrs ago #49
I despise this creepy man so much, he is the worst of the team members Dem4life1234 14 hrs ago #35
Fuck Nosferatu Blue Owl 11 hrs ago #39
What position of power does that POS Miller have? None. Initech 9 hrs ago #47
I'm on day five stage left 7 hrs ago #48
This is the same shithead... GiqueCee 23 min ago #50
23. What needs to be emphasized
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:59 PM
18 hrs ago

Is that this fiasco was Stephen Millers’ doing. Make that message loud and clear. Effectively and relentlessly attack the MAGAts one at a time, until they are the ones living in fear. And I think that Russell Vought should be the next target.

Hugin

(35,214 posts)
2. Miller is the man behind the Mitchenstein Monster's curtain...
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:51 PM
20 hrs ago

Attending to details the Monster himself could care less about.

Note: Miller was never granted immunity.

Walleye

(37,196 posts)
3. Yes, "in a unified way" very important. We like to be individuals, but we need to get together to fight fascism.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:52 PM
20 hrs ago

Katinfl

(286 posts)
27. I feel the same way.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 03:03 PM
18 hrs ago

Since trump and I are about the same age, I wonder if I will live long enough to see him gone….. don’t care how, just gone. I don’t plan on checking out any time soon so I just may get my wish. I know I am not alone.

Wounded Bear

(61,099 posts)
7. Repubs have been "making noise" for decades...
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:26 PM
20 hrs ago

mostly about shit that doesn't really matter, thus diverting attention from shit that really needed to get done, but wasn't done because they blocked them in Congress and distracted the public on hate radio/TV.

This current Dem reaction to trump's actions is good trouble personified. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Dems need to get what is really happening out there for people to see.

Butterflylady

(4,094 posts)
8. I have been Saying that for months.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:39 PM
20 hrs ago

Get out there for heavens sake. Get out there every day, yelling if you have to to make people aware of what's going on.

UTUSN

(73,094 posts)
10. It's not as though we haven't been caterwauling for the past ten years. It's that they are blatant more
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:45 PM
19 hrs ago

and are taking more of whatever rope we've allowed them.




KPN

(16,268 posts)
18. That is definitely a big part of it. They are actually openly hurting
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:27 PM
19 hrs ago

their own voting base now — which yhe dumb asses should have seen coming even back to 2015/16. Morons.

Dem4life1234

(2,255 posts)
43. Bunch of idiots
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:38 PM
10 hrs ago

Never seen a group of human beings vote against their best interest like these dumbasses. This wouldn't fly in any other developed nation.

I guess that thirst to hurt others makes them stupid.

Wild blueberry

(7,338 posts)
11. THIS
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:06 PM
19 hrs ago

"This is what it looks like when the opposition stirs and uses its power in a unified way to make a lot of what you might call sheer political noise. That can help set the media agenda, throw Trump and his allies on the defensive, and deliver defeats to Trump that deflate his cultish aura of invincibility."

Yes! Democratic Party must be the Opposition Party, it's all we've got. Defiantly oppose.

LetMyPeopleVote

(157,107 posts)
12. MaddowBlog-With chaotic freeze gambit, the Trump White House shows its incompetence (again)
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:06 PM
19 hrs ago

Miller is an idiot who is incompetent

On the one hand, Team Trump is launching legally dubious power grabs and wreaking havoc. On the other hand, these guys have no idea what they’re doing.
https://bsky.app/profile/stevebenen.com/post/3lgv4ypo7t22y

Remember eight years ago, when Trump launched an ugly and poorly thought-out Muslim ban, sparking outrage, bureaucratic chaos, family hardships, and messy legal fights?

Eight years to the day later, he did it again with an ugly and poorly thought-out spending freeze.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/chaotic-freeze-gambit-trump-white-house-shows-incompetence-rcna189776

Exactly eight years to the day later, Trump’s budget office ordered a freeze to federal grants, loans and related assistance — money that Congress has already appropriated — effectively trying to transfer the power of the purse away from lawmakers. A massive national freak-out soon followed, with widespread confusion and chaos, even among the administration’s allies, about how to implement the White House’s policy.

With just minutes remaining before the freeze was scheduled to take effect, U.S. District Court Judge Loren AliKhan agreed to halt the process. NBC News reported:

A federal district judge on Tuesday granted an administrative stay in a case challenging the Trump administration’s planned freeze of federal aid, pausing the plan for a week and setting a hearing for further arguments Monday morning. The order applies only to the pause of disbursements in open grants, Judge Loren AliKhan said. And it doesn’t get into the legality of the freeze; instead, it gives her time to hear more fleshed-out arguments from a coalition of nonprofit groups about why she should issue a temporary restraining order that could block the freeze for an additional two weeks.


......It began with a terribly written memo from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), which The New York Times’ Jamelle Bouie accurately described as “delusional.” White House officials spent much of the day insisting that it was perfectly clear, and news organizations were to blame for any confusion, but many of those same White House officials struggled badly to answer specific questions about the details of the policy — most notably related to the impact on Medicaid beneficiaries. (“I’ll check back on that,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters at her first briefing.).....

In case that weren’t quite enough, the White House also spent much of the day defending the freeze by referencing the “Green New Deal,” which is a broad progressive agenda that, in reality, never actually passed — and therefore can’t be defunded.

The resulting image was unsettling. On the one hand, the president, his political operation and his policy team are engaged in ugly and legally dubious power grabs, wreaking havoc as part of a radical scheme to transform the American system.

On the other hand, these guys still don’t know what they’re doing. As The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank summarized in his latest column, “In just eight days on the job, Trump has taken a wrecking ball to the federal government, and he and his aides apparently couldn’t be bothered to give any thought to the damage and chaos that would ensue.”

TFG is a very stupid person. His staff is just as incompetent as the idiots who tried to do a Muslim ban 8 years ago


Attilatheblond

(4,969 posts)
17. Border Czar pissed immigrents know their rights. Miller pissed media reported some truth.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:26 PM
19 hrs ago

These poor schmucks seem powerfully allergic to truth and facts.

Javaman

(63,277 posts)
21. "which is why White House adviser Stephen Miller is frantically searching for scapegoats" blame it on emu.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:36 PM
19 hrs ago

he's supposed to be things all "efficient" and shit, right?

what a bunch of bumbling boobs.

they couldn't find their hands with both hands let alone their asses.

pfitz59

(11,204 posts)
30. I expect to see more back-tracking and blame-laying.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 03:32 PM
18 hrs ago

As the idealogues continue their charade of competence.

Rebl2

(15,331 posts)
32. No idiot mr
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:37 PM
17 hrs ago

miller the media, for once, told the truth, the whole truth. There was NO hoax from the media you effing nazi.

Karasu

(439 posts)
33. It blows my mind that they still play he "leftwing media" card after 40+ years, and at least half the country STILL
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:49 PM
16 hrs ago

fucking buys it.

MurrayDelph

(5,473 posts)
34. I've got an idea: Let's deport Miller, Homan, and Trmp
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 06:00 PM
15 hrs ago

to the Netherlands. Specifically, The Hague.

Dem4life1234

(2,255 posts)
35. I despise this creepy man so much, he is the worst of the team members
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:04 PM
14 hrs ago

I cannot stand this racist. He is the worst member of his team. He should know better because if this was 1930s Germany, he would have been stripped of his citizenship for being Jewish. That is what angers me about him. The hypocrisy. Um, his family ran to the United States to escape persecution.

Then he calls us liars?

The ones who had left his first administration actually had humanity and some kind of decency. These ones who remain loyal to him are absolutely batshit crazy and evil.

Words cannot describe this.

Initech

(103,113 posts)
47. What position of power does that POS Miller have? None.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 12:22 AM
9 hrs ago

So fuck him and his stupid opinions.

stage left

(3,034 posts)
48. I'm on day five
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:01 AM
7 hrs ago

of calling my misrepresentatives and bitching about various aspects of this mess. I reccomend it. For those of you who live in blue states. tell your reps to step up.

GiqueCee

(1,620 posts)
50. This is the same shithead...
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 09:17 AM
23 min ago

... that declared early in Trump's first regime that "the President will not be questioned."
Wanna make a bet, asshole?

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