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tishaLA

(14,433 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:28 PM 20 hrs ago

RFK said it's harder to get off SSRIs than to quit heroin

In the middle of the GD hearing. It's insane--and somehow nobody on our side pounced and ridiculed him for saying it. I want to pull my hair out.

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RFK said it's harder to get off SSRIs than to quit heroin (Original Post) tishaLA 20 hrs ago OP
Ah, no iemanja 20 hrs ago #1
Nonsense! MineralMan 20 hrs ago #2
Agreed. I got off Zoloft without subsequent cravings for it. John1956PA 19 hrs ago #9
Yes, people stop taking SSRIs all the time. MineralMan 19 hrs ago #10
He ought to know about heroin Historic NY 20 hrs ago #3
Getting off of SSRIs Is No Picnic Deep State Witch 20 hrs ago #4
Whoever said he quit heroin? Sneederbunk 20 hrs ago #5
He's has been in AA for over 40 years womanofthehills 17 hrs ago #28
Does he have a medical background to make this claim? 33taw 20 hrs ago #6
LOL, he's just a rich privileged white guy IzzaNuDay 17 hrs ago #32
I've gotten off SSRIs TBA 19 hrs ago #7
He and the rest of the psycho pack are.... Lovie777 19 hrs ago #8
I've quit cold turkey. Lunabell 19 hrs ago #11
I Never Had A Problem RobinA 19 hrs ago #17
great, now a junkie wanting to govern public health! IzzaNuDay 19 hrs ago #12
Any medicines he does like? Any treatments? Anything at all based in science? Solly Mack 19 hrs ago #13
She was referring to a statement he made womanofthehills 18 hrs ago #19
He was putting down both SSRIs and people who need them. He calls them addicts. Solly Mack 18 hrs ago #20
SSRIs do have a black box warning TexasBushwhacker 17 hrs ago #29
Do you mean publicly or privately? misanthrope 18 hrs ago #21
Exactly right. I agree. Publicly one thing. Privately, another. Solly Mack 18 hrs ago #22
"Any medicines he does like?" Dave Bowman 17 hrs ago #27
He is probably confusing SSRIs with Xanax. John1956PA 19 hrs ago #14
I know some folks had issues tapering off Effexor TexasBushwhacker 17 hrs ago #30
I take an ssri... Mountainguy 19 hrs ago #15
If confirmed he will try to stop Meowmee 19 hrs ago #16
Is he going to "worm" his way out of that one? GreenWave 19 hrs ago #18
Do Republicans really want the welfare of leftyladyfrommo 18 hrs ago #23
Yet another reason he should be kept from public healthcare responsibility. (nt) Paladin 18 hrs ago #24
I think they will come back with medical experts to say that karynnj 17 hrs ago #25
Toast face has spent years talking shit with no pushback Klarkashton 17 hrs ago #26
"Toast face" LOL TexasBushwhacker 17 hrs ago #31
No it isn't. I've gotten off of loads of them because they don't work for me. Crunchy Frog 17 hrs ago #33
Stopping SSRI's cold turkey put me in the ER in college NickB79 11 hrs ago #34
If you've ever seen someone try to come off heroin addiction Sparkly 11 hrs ago #35
Really? It takes 1 weeks to 1 months, depending on the dosage. haele 11 hrs ago #36

John1956PA

(3,539 posts)
9. Agreed. I got off Zoloft without subsequent cravings for it.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:55 PM
19 hrs ago

I got back on Zoloft after I realized that that I function better with it than without it.

MineralMan

(148,299 posts)
10. Yes, people stop taking SSRIs all the time.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:59 PM
19 hrs ago

Often, like you, they return to taking them because they are effective. There's no "withdrawal" from stopping. It's just that symptoms tend to return.

Sadly, there is no universal treatment for depression, bi-polar disorders, or other related illnesses that works for everyone. So, getting back to relatively normal health is always a process of trial and error to some degree.

Deep State Witch

(11,539 posts)
4. Getting off of SSRIs Is No Picnic
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:35 PM
20 hrs ago

I'll give him that. I guess he would know about heroin, though.

womanofthehills

(9,441 posts)
28. He's has been in AA for over 40 years
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:14 PM
17 hrs ago

Says he has gone to an AA meeting almost every day for 40 yrs and still goes. Says he’s heard thousands of stories at these meetings.

TBA

(842 posts)
7. I've gotten off SSRIs
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:49 PM
19 hrs ago

Tapper slowly, Very slowly. Took me about 6 months. Now because of this clusterfuck I'm back on them.

Lovie777

(15,943 posts)
8. He and the rest of the psycho pack are....
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:50 PM
19 hrs ago

hurt a whole lot of people including their psycho base.

Lunabell

(7,214 posts)
11. I've quit cold turkey.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:59 PM
19 hrs ago

Not one problem except my gloom feelings returned. My small dose of Zoloft is a life saver.

RobinA

(10,228 posts)
17. I Never Had A Problem
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:33 PM
19 hrs ago

and I've been on ADs for 30 years. Always followed doctor's protocol, which can be slow, but no problem.

IzzaNuDay

(817 posts)
12. great, now a junkie wanting to govern public health!
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:02 PM
19 hrs ago

the only needles RFKJr is interested in are for shooting up dope. He and Hegseth will make a great couple!

womanofthehills

(9,441 posts)
19. She was referring to a statement he made
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:56 PM
18 hrs ago

Last edited Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:16 PM - Edit history (1)

In the past about school killings - he had said something like the shooters were influenced by video games, social media , etc and some were on SSRI’s.

She said she was on SSRI’s in the past and he was putting down people on SSRI’s.

Didn’t quite get the connection myself.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,802 posts)
29. SSRIs do have a black box warning
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:28 PM
17 hrs ago

In pediatric patients (those under 18) SOME studies have shown increased suicidal behavior, but not all studies. Furthermore, the risk of suicide for untreated major depression is very real and should not be ignored.

misanthrope

(8,333 posts)
21. Do you mean publicly or privately?
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 03:15 PM
18 hrs ago

Because he's had no qualms with using steroids and other growth hormones in the past, solely for shortsighted and vainglorious reasons. I suspect he has also had the benefit of much of modern medical science but doesn't talk much about that.

He has no problem with modern medical science's diagnosis of his spasmodic dysphonia. I suspect he has undergone therapy for the still-largely mysterious condition, but his frustration with it along with his ongoing grift led him to list flu vaccines as a possible cause for it. I guarantee if valid science came up with an effective treatment, Kennedy would waste no effort in securing it for himself. Whether he would admit it or not is another story.

John1956PA

(3,539 posts)
14. He is probably confusing SSRIs with Xanax.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:07 PM
19 hrs ago

Xanax is an anti-anxiety medication which can become quite addictive. My experience with taking the SSRI medicine Zoloft has never entailed any addition to it .

TexasBushwhacker

(20,802 posts)
30. I know some folks had issues tapering off Effexor
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:33 PM
17 hrs ago

which is an SNRI. Xanax is a benzodiazepine (sp). Yes, it benzos can be abused and you can build a tolerance. Totally different drugs than SSRIs.

Mountainguy

(1,209 posts)
15. I take an ssri...
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:13 PM
19 hrs ago

And there are plenty of days I forget to take it and don't notice any difference.

Do heroin addicts usually forget to take their heroin and only realize it hours later?

Meowmee

(6,560 posts)
16. If confirmed he will try to stop
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:21 PM
19 hrs ago

Any medications that help people and will endanger many and I believe murder millions given the chance.

karynnj

(60,075 posts)
25. I think they will come back with medical experts to say that
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:02 PM
17 hrs ago

it is not true. At most the Senators could say it sounds wrong. I hope their staff is putting together a long list of inaccuracies.

Klarkashton

(2,669 posts)
26. Toast face has spent years talking shit with no pushback
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:08 PM
17 hrs ago

The minute he gets any guff he folds up and doesn't know anything about anything.

Crunchy Frog

(27,229 posts)
33. No it isn't. I've gotten off of loads of them because they don't work for me.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:40 PM
17 hrs ago

Yes, the withdrawal effects can be pretty nasty and last a long time. No, you don't get cravings for them like you would with heroin.

He really doesn't appear to know anything about anything.

NickB79

(19,721 posts)
34. Stopping SSRI's cold turkey put me in the ER in college
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:09 PM
11 hrs ago

I got so incredibly sick when I forgot to refill my meds before Christmas break, my roommates insisted I let them take me in. After half a day, an IV for dehydration, anti-nausea meds, and an SSRI refill, they sent me home.

But you know what? When I tapered off gradually a year later, absolutely no issues.

Sparkly

(24,444 posts)
35. If you've ever seen someone try to come off heroin addiction
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:28 PM
11 hrs ago

(or methadone), you know there is NO comparison at ALL.

What an IDIOTIC thing to say.

(There's are also criminal, legal, financial, health insurance limitations for most heroin addicts -- maybe not the privileged ones - that prevent challenges so absurd that a successful person couldn't jump through the hoops. Not so with prescribed anti-depressants that didn't cause arrests, felonies, jail sentences, drivers' license revocations, the "box" that makes employers say no forever, etc...)

haele

(13,783 posts)
36. Really? It takes 1 weeks to 1 months, depending on the dosage.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:38 PM
11 hrs ago

That's if you don't want any withdrawals. I've heard Heroin junkies need Methadone in tapering doses for six months at a minimum. Some take it longer (co-worker in the cubicle next to me in the 90's; he was calling the insurance company to arguing about his son's treatment coverage at work every month for almost a year)

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