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kentuck

(113,145 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:54 PM Jan 29

Did they rescind their "freeze order" because they discovered that Republicans were also...

on Medicaid, and Meals on Wheels, and Section 8 Housing, and Head Start, and Food Stamps?

They like to pretend that it is only Democrats that receive any assistance from the government. I guess they forgot that the most impoverished states, those that receive the most assistance, are red states?

The pressure to rescind most likely came from the Republican side, not the Democratic side, in my opinion. They don't give a crap about what happens to their political opponents. They only want to keep their cult happy.

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NoMoreRepugs

(10,911 posts)
1. Punishing whomever dare vote against or voice opposition to the TrumpenFuhrer is the primary goal.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:56 PM
Jan 29

Omnipresent

(6,615 posts)
3. They don't seem to grasp the idea that these programs are for everyone, regardless of political party affiliation.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:57 PM
Jan 29

IzzaNuDay

(838 posts)
4. Wake up call!
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:58 PM
Jan 29

the GOP and their followers were focused on woke, when in reality, the basic needs of citizens were being degraded or eliminated.

And this is only 9 days in….

LetMyPeopleVote

(157,388 posts)
5. With chaotic freeze gambit, the Trump White House shows its incompetence (again)
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:59 PM
Jan 29

On the one hand, Team Trump is launching legally dubious power grabs and wreaking havoc. On the other hand, these guys have no idea what they’re doing.
https://bsky.app/profile/stevebenen.com/post/3lgv4ypo7t22y

Remember eight years ago, when Trump launched an ugly and poorly thought-out Muslim ban, sparking outrage, bureaucratic chaos, family hardships, and messy legal fights?

Eight years to the day later, he did it again with an ugly and poorly thought-out spending freeze.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/chaotic-freeze-gambit-trump-white-house-shows-incompetence-rcna189776

Exactly eight years to the day later, Trump’s budget office ordered a freeze to federal grants, loans and related assistance — money that Congress has already appropriated — effectively trying to transfer the power of the purse away from lawmakers. A massive national freak-out soon followed, with widespread confusion and chaos, even among the administration’s allies, about how to implement the White House’s policy.

With just minutes remaining before the freeze was scheduled to take effect, U.S. District Court Judge Loren AliKhan agreed to halt the process. NBC News reported:

A federal district judge on Tuesday granted an administrative stay in a case challenging the Trump administration’s planned freeze of federal aid, pausing the plan for a week and setting a hearing for further arguments Monday morning. The order applies only to the pause of disbursements in open grants, Judge Loren AliKhan said. And it doesn’t get into the legality of the freeze; instead, it gives her time to hear more fleshed-out arguments from a coalition of nonprofit groups about why she should issue a temporary restraining order that could block the freeze for an additional two weeks.


......It began with a terribly written memo from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), which The New York Times’ Jamelle Bouie accurately described as “delusional.” White House officials spent much of the day insisting that it was perfectly clear, and news organizations were to blame for any confusion, but many of those same White House officials struggled badly to answer specific questions about the details of the policy — most notably related to the impact on Medicaid beneficiaries. (“I’ll check back on that,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters at her first briefing.).....

In case that weren’t quite enough, the White House also spent much of the day defending the freeze by referencing the “Green New Deal,” which is a broad progressive agenda that, in reality, never actually passed — and therefore can’t be defunded.

The resulting image was unsettling. On the one hand, the president, his political operation and his policy team are engaged in ugly and legally dubious power grabs, wreaking havoc as part of a radical scheme to transform the American system.

On the other hand, these guys still don’t know what they’re doing. As The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank summarized in his latest column, “In just eight days on the job, Trump has taken a wrecking ball to the federal government, and he and his aides apparently couldn’t be bothered to give any thought to the damage and chaos that would ensue.”

TFG is a very stupid person. His staff is just as incompetent as the idiots who tried to do a Muslim ban 8 years ago

mwmisses4289

(341 posts)
7. Most likely they realized
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:00 PM
Jan 29

that many of the grants and other funding goes/will go to the pet projects of the tech bros, billionaire buddies, and himself. Can't put a freeze on the money spigot, ya know.

Lotusflower70

(3,099 posts)
8. Vicious cycle
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:03 PM
Jan 29

It brings back 2016 but only on steroids. They are creating chaos and confusion to distract and deflect. If this is what we see, what is going on behind the scenes? There is more damage that is being inflicted that will be revealed later

allegorical oracle

(3,896 posts)
17. Last I heard, it was frankly unclear whether the freeze remains or not. Impression I got is
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:02 PM
Jan 29

that the original memo was rescinded and replaced, but possibly not the full effects of the freeze. Yesterday, heard a report that the freeze was intended to last until around Feb. 10.

Given TSF's reluctance to ever admit a mistake, am still not entirely sure. Even if SSecurity, Medicare and Medicaid are good to go, it's still not clear for me about the grants funding. Rural areas heavily rely on grants that provide services to low income and elderly patients. Confusion is a terrible disservice. Usually takes several days for accurate info to percolate down to everyone.

JCMach1

(28,281 posts)
13. Everything all the time... This really doesn't matter to them
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:14 PM
Jan 29

Essentially like a probing attack in warfare... However, it's a multi-pronged attack to kneecap Federal Governance and much of their shite will go forward.

They will literally be on to the next atrocity later today, or tomorrow while they are prepping the bigger things like a Canal Zone invasion.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,908 posts)
14. Once you realize that chaos and hitting us with rapidfire shocks is
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:22 PM
Jan 29

intentional and a useful tool for them, then a lot of what they do makes much more sense. I remember reading Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine" 15 years ago wondering if it would happen here.... now its clear to me that so much of what's been done since then has been only a prelude to what is happening now. One big example: busting / weakening unions that would have been more powerfully fighting what is being done to the federal employees.

LetMyPeopleVote

(157,388 posts)
16. The courts are checking on whether the executive order is in effect
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 03:50 PM
Jan 29

The various plaintiffs are checking on the status of the executive order and will not accept the statements of TFG's brain dead press secretary




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