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Dennis Donovan

(30,075 posts)
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 07:35 AM Saturday

The Guardian: British tourist detained, shackled, sent to immigration detention centre

The Guardian - I was a British tourist trying to leave America. Then I was detained, shackled and sent to an immigration detention centre

Jenny Kleeman
Sat 5 Apr 2025 07.00 EDT



/snip/

Becky was shackled and put into the back of a van. “I had no idea where we were going. It was just bumping around in darkness with handcuffs on.” At 2.30am, she arrived at the Ice facility in Tacoma, Washington. She was made to change into standard-issue underwear, a yellow top and trousers. Officers took away all her personal belongings, measured her height and weight, made her pose for a mugshot, and assigned her an “A” number (short for “alien”). Whenever she asked the people processing her arrival how long she would be detained for, they told her they couldn’t help: they worked for GEO, the private company contracted to run the facility, and not Ice, the government body that would decide her fate.

At 5.30am, she was taken to the dorm that she was to share with 103 other women: a massive room filled with metal tables, benches and bunk beds, some cells around the perimeter, and a row of payphones, “like a hospital mixed with a canteen”. It was bathed in bright halogen light that Becky would come to learn would always be on, albeit slightly dimmed between 11.30pm and 5.30am. Becky’s bunk was on a mezzanine level.



All Becky wanted to do was sleep, but instead she headed to the payphones to make the one free call she had been told she was entitled to, to tell her family how to put money into her inmate account. “In my head, this was a thing I had to do immediately, otherwise I’d be stuck without a way to communicate with the outside world.” She gave her parents her A number, and they tried to reassure her. It’s just one or two days, they repeated to her. A horrible experience. But over soon.

As soon as the call ended, Becky went on one of the detention centre iPads, which had apps allowing inmates to send messages to Ice and check the balance on their inmate account. “I sent a message to Ice straight away saying: ‘I am a tourist. I was just backpacking. I have not outstayed my visa. I’ve only been in America one month and two weeks. I don’t know why I’m here. I want to go home. Please can you help?’” She frantically refreshed the app to see if her account had been credited. (It took longer than expected, because funds can only be transferred into accounts for “illegal aliens” from within the US. Becky’s father, Paul, discovered he could only do it through an American friend.) “I was seeing no money arrive, and I was getting really upset thinking I told them the wrong A number.”

As she sobbed holding the iPad, Becky found herself surrounded by other inmates who wanted to comfort her. A woman called Lucy offered to let Becky use her phone credit if money hadn’t appeared in the account within a few hours. Rosa, a Mexican woman who spoke barely any English and had already been detained for 11 months, offered Becky a Pot Noodle she had been able to buy from the commissary, the shop where they could purchase luxuries. At 8am, Becky finally curled up in her bed to sleep, with Rosa praying in Spanish in the bunk below.

/snip


What the fuck???
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The Guardian: British tourist detained, shackled, sent to immigration detention centre (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Saturday OP
Outrageous! SheltieLover Saturday #1
Fascism at work gab13by13 Saturday #2
I saw a sign at today's protest that said, "Are We Great Yet?? ShazzieB Saturday #42
Protest today and every day from now until they're stopped. rubbersole Saturday #3
All in service to a total treasonous racist scumbag's ego. Fuck trump forever and ever LymphocyteLover Saturday #4
LymphocyteLover, trump is the dumb figurehead that the rich greedy oligarchy in America rich7862 Saturday #55
Yeah, true. He still is a uniquely awful being that seemingly holds conservativsm LymphocyteLover Sunday #63
Way to discourage tourism to the US IronLionZion Saturday #5
Trump Rebl2 Saturday #25
The next FIFA world cup is shared between the USA, Old Crank Saturday #37
That's Rebl2 Saturday #47
The World Cup BidenRocks Saturday #56
They should boycott the Olympics as well Horse with no Name Saturday #39
Yep. ShazzieB Saturday #44
You are right about the FIFA games! ShazzieB Saturday #43
"Visit America! Meet many assholes! Try for weeks to get released from our private prisons!" struggle4progress Saturday #6
You can experience prison conditions for free! LisaL Saturday #58
Stephen Miller is stinking trash. orangecrush Saturday #7
Basically, she was going to work in Canada and had the wrong visa Renew Deal Saturday #8
Nothing in your post justifies or warrants the treatment she received. niyad Saturday #11
Indeed AdamThePhantump Saturday #12
Precisely why I always refer to those fkers as the "Rethuglican" party. OMGWTF Saturday #48
Grand old party this ain't AdamThePhantump Saturday #50
I am horrified every day by how many Americans seem to think this is fine. yardwork Saturday #15
It's definitely not the way I think it should have been handled Renew Deal Saturday #32
No, not basically. This is anything but "basic". AllyCat Saturday #22
It may not be basic, but it's accurate. Renew Deal Saturday #33
You are oversimplifying it. There was no reason for her MineralMan Saturday #24
These are separate issues. Renew Deal Saturday #34
Oh, there's a reason to lock her up for a month. Prof. Toru Tanaka Sunday #61
And held her far longer than needed - why? Bev54 Saturday #31
Private prisons are a sin in this country and should be outlawed. Renew Deal Saturday #35
EXACTLY! ShazzieB Saturday #45
That's debatable. LisaL Saturday #57
"working in the US with the wrong visa" ? Seinan Sensei Sunday #62
Certain spots in this country can forget tourism returning anytime soon. Afrocat Saturday #9
So horrible AdamThePhantump Saturday #10
She looks dangerous. milestogo Saturday #13
Is that a PENGUIN button on her jacket?? Pinback Saturday #28
Commissary where they could purchase "LUXURIES"!!! LUXURIES. . like ramen, niyad Saturday #14
I feel like I was reading about Russia, or some other fascist country, not the United States of America. Fla Dem Saturday #16
It reminded me of 1984 DBoon Saturday #51
Becky bromeando Saturday #17
Please, I urge everyone to read the entire article. Horrifying, sickening, niyad Saturday #18
what kind of total effing morons are in charge of the border? 4catsmom Saturday #19
Rosa had been detained 11 months??? What the heck? AllyCat Saturday #20
Sounds like the same treatment an American get if they are arrested on any street in America. LiberalArkie Saturday #21
... Solly Mack Saturday #23
"assigned her an "A" number (short for "alien")" llmart Saturday #26
Is this real!?! I'd think the UK would be up in arms uponit7771 Saturday #27
Of course it's real. LisaL Saturday #59
End of story...if she had lied, she's be a tourist in Canada right now LittleGirl Saturday #29
It was CANADA that denied her entrance because they don't let you GreatGazoo Sunday #64
yes she was at fault to begin with. nt LittleGirl Sunday #66
For profit detention centers... suegeo Saturday #30
OMG! We're a SHITHOLE country with Trump in charge! nt Exp Saturday #36
fucking police state. Rest of the world will soon "divest itself" of the USA. Watch it happen soon. We are not reliable Evolve Dammit Saturday #38
Didn't she look Aryan enough? Ping Tung Saturday #40
This is practice, we're next n/t Cheezoholic Saturday #41
Two words stood out in the OP canetoad Saturday #46
Horrific Meowmee Saturday #49
Nevada and Florida voted for this LS0999 Saturday #52
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Saturday #53
The orange beast's idea of a Stalag. appleannie1 Saturday #54
.. Cha Saturday #60
Holy crap! 😳 ecstatic Sunday #65

gab13by13

(27,523 posts)
2. Fascism at work
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 07:45 AM
Saturday

Repulsive story. I hope that Becky tells her story far and wide in Britain. Bye bye tourism, stupid fucks.

Be careful how you speak today. If you say something bad about Bibi you may be designated a Hamas terrorist and sent to a hell hole prison.

America The Beautiful. Are we great yet?

ShazzieB

(20,127 posts)
42. I saw a sign at today's protest that said, "Are We Great Yet??
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 05:25 PM
Saturday

Followed by "Cuz I Just Feel Embarrassed."

That's how I feel reading this story, except "embarrassed" isn't really quite strong enough. It's a weird mix of emotions that I don't think there's one word that says it all. Kind of like

rubbersole

(9,647 posts)
3. Protest today and every day from now until they're stopped.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 08:13 AM
Saturday

The crashing economy is getting the attention of people that don't care about "civics" matters.

rich7862

(402 posts)
55. LymphocyteLover, trump is the dumb figurehead that the rich greedy oligarchy in America
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:06 PM
Saturday

are using to own everything. The real enemy is the top 1% that are stealing all our money

LymphocyteLover

(7,713 posts)
63. Yeah, true. He still is a uniquely awful being that seemingly holds conservativsm
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 08:03 AM
Sunday

together and promulgates so much damage

Rebl2

(16,086 posts)
25. Trump
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 11:04 AM
Saturday

doesn’t care about tourism. He doesn’t want people from other countries coming to the United States. If I were FIFA (soccer) I would pull all games from the United States next year. We can’t be sure they some won’t be picked up by ICE.

Old Crank

(5,485 posts)
37. The next FIFA world cup is shared between the USA,
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:01 PM
Saturday

Canada, and Mexico.

July 2026....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_FIFA_World_Cup


FIFA needs to pull the US matches so fans won't be arrested just for showing up. Or you won't have any fans from participating countries at matches.

Rebl2

(16,086 posts)
47. That's
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 06:47 PM
Saturday

what I was trying to say. They have several games in Kansas City, MO where I live.

BidenRocks

(1,300 posts)
56. The World Cup
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:39 PM
Saturday

and the Olympics.
I posted this a month ago and this week I heard that these issues are being discussed.
Football will be fine in Mexico and Canada. Too many brown skin players and fans anyway. Right chump?
The Olympics should be canceled now. Beside fire recovery, we are billions in debt.
Your safety cannot be guaranteed!!

Horse with no Name

(34,157 posts)
39. They should boycott the Olympics as well
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:09 PM
Saturday

It’s not safe for people of color to come to this country

ShazzieB

(20,127 posts)
44. Yep.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 05:31 PM
Saturday

As this story shows, it's not even safe for white people. People of any other color should really think twice (or more) about coming here!

ShazzieB

(20,127 posts)
43. You are right about the FIFA games!
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 05:28 PM
Saturday

Same with any other kind of international athetic competition that's scheduled to be held here. If there are any, they need to be moved to some other country!

LisaL

(47,176 posts)
58. You can experience prison conditions for free!
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:46 PM
Saturday

Shackling included. If your dream is to be treated like a prisoner, you can't go wrong!

Renew Deal

(83,756 posts)
8. Basically, she was going to work in Canada and had the wrong visa
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:05 AM
Saturday

So they sent her back to the US. When the US found out she was recently working in the US with the wrong visa, they arrested her pending deportation.

niyad

(123,131 posts)
11. Nothing in your post justifies or warrants the treatment she received.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:42 AM
Saturday

ICE and that private company are a bunch of sadistic, jackbooted thugs.

OMGWTF

(4,644 posts)
48. Precisely why I always refer to those fkers as the "Rethuglican" party.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 06:57 PM
Saturday

This ain't your grandpa's GOP.

yardwork

(66,101 posts)
15. I am horrified every day by how many Americans seem to think this is fine.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:48 AM
Saturday

It's hard to comprehend.

Renew Deal

(83,756 posts)
32. It's definitely not the way I think it should have been handled
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 12:34 PM
Saturday

The irritable officer that had her sign some document said 2-3 days. If that happened, then this story would have been more about lessons learned.

AllyCat

(17,763 posts)
22. No, not basically. This is anything but "basic".
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:45 AM
Saturday

This is horrific. The only reason she got out was because of connections she was lucky enough to have.

Renew Deal

(83,756 posts)
33. It may not be basic, but it's accurate.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 12:37 PM
Saturday

I think Americans are correct to be outraged about how many of these situations are handled. We need to speak with out votes on Election Day to elect people that represent our views when it matters.

Immigration is still Trumps most popular issue. I’d be interested to see polling on whether Americans think Trump has gone too far. I think he has and is doing it wrong. That said, the popular opinion in this country is that people want to see action.

MineralMan

(148,834 posts)
24. You are oversimplifying it. There was no reason for her
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:57 AM
Saturday

to be incarcerated at all. Please don't make excuses for ICE.

Renew Deal

(83,756 posts)
34. These are separate issues.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 12:44 PM
Saturday

What happened is easily described.

What happened is not what I think should have happened, but I’m not an immigration lawyer. The problem is that when you go to other countries, you play by their rules. Canada deported her to the US. When she got to the US and found out she broke the law, they arrested her. Setting aside Trumps twisted views of our laws, she was in trouble at that point.

Considering the circumstances, I think she should have been put on the first flight to the UK. There is no reason to lock her up for a month.

We need to vote for people that represent our views. I’m not convinced that even Democrats are going to be willing to loosen immigration laws at this time for situations like this.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,547 posts)
61. Oh, there's a reason to lock her up for a month.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 05:55 AM
Sunday

These private prisons with “commissaries” are profit makers. I wonder how much this woman and her family got bilked for.

Bev54

(12,352 posts)
31. And held her far longer than needed - why?
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 12:02 PM
Saturday

Because the facilities are privately owned getting money from the US government, the longer they hold people the more money they make. That was certainly the case with a recent case with a Canadian woman, who again was released only after it was in the press.

Renew Deal

(83,756 posts)
35. Private prisons are a sin in this country and should be outlawed.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 12:47 PM
Saturday

They create perverse incentives for everyone involved.

ShazzieB

(20,127 posts)
45. EXACTLY!
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 05:40 PM
Saturday

The privately owned firms that run these facilities have ZERO incentive to help anyone get out of there. In fact, they have a clear incentive to keep them there, so they keep making money!

So this how our tax dollars are now being wasted, while funding for programs that feed starving people and support education, scientific research, and SO many more things are being gutted. Talk about lopsided priorities!

LisaL

(47,176 posts)
57. That's debatable.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:43 PM
Saturday

She was going to stay with a host family and do household chores. Regardless, I fail to see how that justifies shackling her and keeping her in prison like conditions.

Afrocat

(2,804 posts)
9. Certain spots in this country can forget tourism returning anytime soon.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:15 AM
Saturday

We are turning into those countries where you tell your people not to do anything stupid, or just not go period.

Pinback

(13,129 posts)
28. Is that a PENGUIN button on her jacket??
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 11:08 AM
Saturday

She’s probably one of those Heard and McDonald Islands terrorists!!1!

niyad

(123,131 posts)
14. Commissary where they could purchase "LUXURIES"!!! LUXURIES. . like ramen,
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:46 AM
Saturday

personal care items, over-processed, over-salted food items. LUXURIES!!!

Fla Dem

(26,477 posts)
16. I feel like I was reading about Russia, or some other fascist country, not the United States of America.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:52 AM
Saturday

Very depressing.

niyad

(123,131 posts)
18. Please, I urge everyone to read the entire article. Horrifying, sickening,
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:59 AM
Saturday

disgusting what we are paying for with this sick, twisted, sadistic, monstrous reign if terror.

4catsmom

(633 posts)
19. what kind of total effing morons are in charge of the border?
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:01 AM
Saturday

they seem completely stupid. We must prosecute the people who are doing this

LiberalArkie

(17,875 posts)
21. Sounds like the same treatment an American get if they are arrested on any street in America.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:19 AM
Saturday

In rural America it may take a couple of weeks in confinement in the local jail before the circuit judge makes his circuit back to that city or county. No bail until he makes his rounds back.

I am guessing the city/county is making money from the commissary and phone and clothing money. The housing cost a lot so they must do pretty good on the "inmate services" otherwise they would not be incarcerating many people.

llmart

(16,386 posts)
26. "assigned her an "A" number (short for "alien")"
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 11:04 AM
Saturday

How soon before the American gestapo starts tatooing people like her?

Fuck Trump and the entire GOP and all the imbeciles who voted for them or didn't vote at all.

LittleGirl

(8,642 posts)
29. End of story...if she had lied, she's be a tourist in Canada right now
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 11:17 AM
Saturday

This is so messed up. I am so pissed this happened to her.

You can't come to this country and be a tourist with an agreement to do things for your host that may sound like working for housing.

GreatGazoo

(4,106 posts)
64. It was CANADA that denied her entrance because they don't let you
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 09:42 AM
Sunday

exchange work for housing. Even among Canadians they don't permit bartering of work for education, etc.

She DID "come to this country and be a tourist with an agreement to do things for your host..."

suegeo

(2,986 posts)
30. For profit detention centers...
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 11:57 AM
Saturday

They have no incentive in seeing people being released. Hurts the bottom line.

Maybe there is some kind of $ kick back scheme for the ICE nazis to pick up people willy nilly, put them in a for-profit detention center.

In any event, this woman, and others, should not have been detained.

Evolve Dammit

(20,471 posts)
38. fucking police state. Rest of the world will soon "divest itself" of the USA. Watch it happen soon. We are not reliable
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:07 PM
Saturday

Of course Vlad, Orban, Erdogan and MBS will be welcome partners ....

Ping Tung

(2,025 posts)
40. Didn't she look Aryan enough?
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:18 PM
Saturday
I should like to be able to love my country and still love justice.
Albert Camus

canetoad

(18,866 posts)
46. Two words stood out in the OP
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 05:43 PM
Saturday

...worked for GEO, the private company contracted to run the facility

Would this private company would be paid by the abduction?

LS0999

(138 posts)
52. Nevada and Florida voted for this
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 08:22 PM
Saturday

Two states with an outsized dependence on tourism. I feel sorry for Hawaii though. It's the lockdown economy again except the disease is MAGA instead of covid. Who the hell wants to visit now. After liquidation day even domestic tourism will drop.

ecstatic

(34,713 posts)
65. Holy crap! 😳
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 11:40 AM
Sunday

My heart is breaking. This is a new low. We're headed for North Korea territory.

But why? Why are magats determined to destroy our country?

There are people who insist that we shouldn't let tRump's chaos trigger us, but how can I ignore this stuff?

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