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speak easy

(11,343 posts)
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 01:32 PM Saturday

I am no fan of conspiracy theories, but I can not ignore the facts -

Everything, literally everything the administration has done has weakened the United States.

If it was one thing, tariffs or NATO, you could put it down to ideology, but whether it’s killing scientific and medical research, or crippling our response to natural disasters, or gutting the Federal Government wholesale, when you add it all up, you have to conclude it is by design, a plan to break the U.S. politically, economically, internationally, in defense and soft power,
in everything.

This is an anti-American Administration.

Doh! Yeah, I know, I’m slow on the uptake. My apologies to those who saw what it was from the get go.

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I am no fan of conspiracy theories, but I can not ignore the facts - (Original Post) speak easy Saturday OP
Tariffs for uninhabited islands, but no tariffs for Russia or North Korea. Iggo Saturday #1
Trump's reply to that was, RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA. Emile Saturday #3
And Nancy Pelosi's reply to that was: " 'With him, all roads lead to Putin" MLWR Saturday #37
Think "conspiracy theories" are crazy? Here's one that's real: Project 2000 rigged the game. usaf-vet Saturday #44
I totally buy that conspiracy blue_jay Sunday #67
Trump has something against penguins speak easy Saturday #4
It certainly looks like Putin must be very pleased with everything Trump has done. Doodley Saturday #2
If I allow myself to believe that to which all signs point: it is a Putin-Trump conspiracy hlthe2b Saturday #5
Oh, it rhymes, alright! It also keeps the same meter. slightlv Saturday #34
Presidential salary? maddiemom Saturday #56
But Putin and Trump are not really conspiring together. Putin leads and Trump follows, blindly. SharonAnn Sunday #78
Harris warned everyone here about Trump Kaleva Saturday #6
So did Hillary. skydive forever Saturday #12
Yes. Nobody should be surprised or unprepared. Kaleva Saturday #18
And yet ... the studiously ignorant are. nt eppur_se_muova Saturday #50
This is all for Putin. Mr. Evil Saturday #7
How about a game of solitaire? BattleRow Sunday #75
Imagine what a Russian agent would do as president of the United States. Jim__ Saturday #8
I think Trump, like Putin, hates us for our democracy. speak easy Saturday #15
The Mango-chewin Candidate. dchill Saturday #58
It's a trifecta DENVERPOPS Saturday #59
That's a REALLY good way to put it. calimary Sunday #74
Dude was always saying he could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th Avenue and get away with it krkaufman Saturday #9
Look, they have had decades of experience double-talking the American public. OldBaldy1701E Saturday #10
He is destroying America to benefit his mentor and owner Putin kimbutgar Saturday #11
I myself don't consider this a conspiracy theories. William769 Saturday #13
Doesn't matter when you come to know it, as long as you KNOW it. ancianita Saturday #14
G.O.P. war is on truth, democracy, and freedom BoRaGard Saturday #16
And no one wants to acknowledge... GiqueCee Saturday #17
I'm with you NCgayguy Saturday #19
'Today's folks protesting are doing our country a great service.' speak easy Saturday #20
You are speaking facts not a conspiracy theory. The whole plan is to destroy the U.S. LoisB Saturday #21
The evidence is undeniable speak easy Saturday #23
To us; then there are those who are willfully blind. LoisB Saturday #36
It's been quite obvious for some time. Irish_Dem Saturday #22
'Most people could not wrap their heads around the ugly reality.' speak easy Saturday #31
It is my science training. You go where the data leads you. Irish_Dem Saturday #35
There are so many forces at work. yellow dahlia Saturday #61
Yes quite a few bad actors helped take down the US. Irish_Dem Sunday #73
Russian interference in the 2016 election is well-documented. yardwork Saturday #24
The question is, what can be done about it? totodeinhere Saturday #25
You're on the right track Peer Gynt Saturday #26
What else would one expect from a grifter who so easily launched an anti-American insurrection Otterdaemmerung Saturday #27
And another thing AdamThePhantump Saturday #28
It was pretty obvious destroying the country is the goal here Meowmee Saturday #29
"It's been quite obvious for some time." J_William_Ryan Saturday #30
Explanation: Kraznov Martin Eden Saturday #32
There is a James Carville video somewhere here on DU that I watched last night, and Sogo Saturday #33
'Donald Trump hates America' speak easy Saturday #54
As I posted elsewhere, Trump also wants to play the role of General Zod... AntiFascist Saturday #38
But it doesn't AdamThePhantump Saturday #42
He's dividing his base and handing an advantage over to Democrats (good for us!)... AntiFascist Saturday #45
Yay democrats! AdamThePhantump Saturday #48
100% right and very scary - NT CommonHumanity Saturday #39
The Antichrist at work Mblaze Saturday #40
Hell, i'm not even sure if Americans wake up when bluestarone Saturday #41
I hope we wake up. AdamThePhantump Saturday #43
Paul Krugman considered this and decided that it is gross incompetence coupled with vast ignorance. Martin68 Saturday #46
No apoloagy needed, speak easy, and Very Cha Saturday #47
A conspiracy does exist and Progressive dog Saturday #49
Was this your big clue ? eppur_se_muova Saturday #51
What was my biggest clue? Drowning FEMA. speak easy Saturday #52
Also that. nt eppur_se_muova Saturday #53
This is what happens biocube Saturday #55
it's not a conspiracy, it's literally what is happening AlexSFCA Saturday #57
Vlad Victory? czarjak Saturday #60
Trump is getting a huge payoff Old Testament Libera Saturday #62
K&R spanone Saturday #63
He's getting revenge on America, Fil1957 Sunday #64
I've been thinking this for the last few weeks. Ilsa Sunday #65
agreed and it's perplexing. Demovictory9 Sunday #66
They're not even trying to mask it anymore LS0999 Sunday #68
He wanted another Gilded Age. SleeplessinSoCal Sunday #69
Has anyone challenged him selling citizenship or whatever he is doing for 5 m I think? Meowmee Sunday #70
Only a select few became super wealthy. The rest? Not so much. SharonAnn Sunday #79
it took years of bashing FDR to bring on the end of the middle class. SleeplessinSoCal Sunday #80
Wholly agree. mahina Sunday #71
Standard operating procedure for a dictatorship dedl67 Sunday #72
My local gas stations conspire to fix prices!! GreenWave Sunday #76
KRASNOV Lokee11 Sunday #77

Iggo

(48,766 posts)
1. Tariffs for uninhabited islands, but no tariffs for Russia or North Korea.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 01:39 PM
Saturday

Probably a coincidence, right?

usaf-vet

(7,428 posts)
44. Think "conspiracy theories" are crazy? Here's one that's real: Project 2000 rigged the game.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:27 PM
Saturday

Here’s the blunt truth: Project 2000 was the start of stealing our elections. First, shove Bush into power. Then, quietly computerize the election system while telling voters it’s all about "efficiency" and "security."

The real goal? Make it easier to suppress voters, reject mail-in ballots, and surgically target communities you want to silence — all using data and computer power. It was a long con to normalize cheating right under our noses.

Now fast-forward to today: Project 2025 is the endgame. They’re not just trying to steal elections anymore — they’re coming for our rights, our wealth, and our future, confident they’ve already rigged the system and dumbed down enough of the country to get away with it.

blue_jay

(46 posts)
67. I totally buy that conspiracy
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 02:15 AM
Sunday

the second Jeb spoke in some interview in FL before the election was called I knew something was up.

hlthe2b

(109,042 posts)
5. If I allow myself to believe that to which all signs point: it is a Putin-Trump conspiracy
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 01:52 PM
Saturday

History may not repeat, but it sure as hell rhymes...

Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin did initially plot together through the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (also known as the Hitler-Stalin Pact). This non-aggression pact, signed in August 1939, allowed them to carve up Eastern Europe into spheres of influence and enabled Hitler to invade Poland, effectively starting World War II. However, this alliance was short-lived, as Hitler later betrayed Stalin by invading the Soviet Union in 1941


Putin has referenced Trump's "seriousness" in his plans to take over Greenland and Canada in recent speeches--as reported by Russian media. Likewise he has suggested an "anticipated" blind eye toward his objectives in Eastern Europe.

Can no one else hear the rhyming? sigh...

slightlv

(5,266 posts)
34. Oh, it rhymes, alright! It also keeps the same meter.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:05 PM
Saturday

I think trump doing all this "shock and awe" disaster capitalism stuff is providing cover for putin to carry on with this plans, yet not be so in-your-face about it all. And yes, I thoroughly believe it was all planned. Started around the time of Reagan and PNAC, and just got updated by the Heritage Foundation whenever they had another "Great" idea. If you can put the U.S. back into the time of czarist russia, under the same type of restrictions, we will become like the russian people now -- disillusioned, hopeless, and pliable. However, Americans have *always* been more pliable than any other peoples in the world, AFAIK. They'll not only welcome their dictator masters, they'll hand them the whip. For more than a few of us, tho, we rebel against ANY authoritarianism.. and especially the sadistic way this one is being formed. 90k active duty troops released from the military? 3/4 or more of all federal civil servants kicked out of their jobs? Where are these people suppose to get the money to live on? He's tanking 401k's already. It's 2008 on steroids, and likely to be worse than the 1930's.

Trump is Herbert Hoover without the charm and ideology. trump just does what he's told to do, as long as they make it worth his while. That's why they wrote it all out in a book for him. Of course, HE doesn't read... but Stephen Miller does.

maddiemom

(5,117 posts)
56. Presidential salary?
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 07:14 PM
Saturday

What is the story with Trump? Does he take it? Hoover, at least, did not.

SharonAnn

(14,014 posts)
78. But Putin and Trump are not really conspiring together. Putin leads and Trump follows, blindly.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 12:44 PM
Sunday

Mr. Evil

(3,238 posts)
7. This is all for Putin.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:15 PM
Saturday

I'd be willing to bet that if you could speak a certain word or phrase in front of Tulsi Gabbard she'd immediately stand and start speaking fluent Russian (before she could catch herself).

Jim__

(14,657 posts)
8. Imagine what a Russian agent would do as president of the United States.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:17 PM
Saturday

Actually, we don't have to imagine it. We're living it.

krkaufman

(13,832 posts)
9. Dude was always saying he could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th Avenue and get away with it
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:17 PM
Saturday

I’m waiting for the editorial cartoons depicting just that, except it’s Uncle Sam he’s gunned-down.

OldBaldy1701E

(7,591 posts)
10. Look, they have had decades of experience double-talking the American public.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:18 PM
Saturday

It is no wonder that so many fell for it. (Our absolute dependency on stuff that is completely not important to our survival has been drilled into us until even those who can see the programming still obey it from time to time.) Don't feel bad.

Feel Mad.

ancianita

(40,243 posts)
14. Doesn't matter when you come to know it, as long as you KNOW it.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:31 PM
Saturday

No matter how slow or fast we are about knowing, we're all in this together. You have nothing to apologize for, speakeasy.

GiqueCee

(2,087 posts)
17. And no one wants to acknowledge...
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:47 PM
Saturday

... the Bear fucking the Elephant in the room. Putin's bloody fingerprints are all over this, and have been for the past ten years. It's a conspiracy, alright, but it ain't no theory; it's as real as a heart attack.

NCgayguy

(21 posts)
19. I'm with you
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:01 PM
Saturday

Everything being done by Republicans is premeditated, even the orange buffoon's blatant distractions. It's all to keep everyone talking about the last insane action taken while they execute the next. It gets worse, all those red cap idiots who voted for him that are being hurt by the republican party's actions will soon start thinking the old playground motto, "I'd better defend the bullies or they're gonna come after me". Then you have those idiot become even more militant than they already are. UHM, haven't we seen this before? Oh Yeah, NAZI GERMANY.

Today's folks protesting are doing our country a great service. I just hope none of them get harmed.

BTW, I loved Cory Booker making a stand and God loves Jasmine, but I want to see our DEM LEADERS taking action and not just following up with reels and videos about how great a job they have done. The time for polite response are over, PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, WALK THE WALK OR SHUT UP!

BTW, I don't mean to insult anyone here. I'm a pretty stupid person with no ego. I couldn't join any protest today for personal reasons, so you can call me out on that if you want to, you can't hurt my feelings. Everything I post is just my personal opinion.

Thank you!

speak easy

(11,343 posts)
20. 'Today's folks protesting are doing our country a great service.'
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:06 PM
Saturday

Silence is consent. We, as Americans can not consent to traitors taking down the Republic.

Irish_Dem

(67,636 posts)
22. It's been quite obvious for some time.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:10 PM
Saturday

Most people could not wrap their heads around the ugly reality.

Yes break the US and destroy everything that made it a powerful, prosperous, respected nation.
And destroy the democratic global alliance.

All by design and in the works for some time.

yardwork

(66,101 posts)
24. Russian interference in the 2016 election is well-documented.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:20 PM
Saturday

Trump's connections to Russia are well-documented.

It's not a conspiracy theory if all the facts point in one direction. You can call it a theory that hasn't yet been proven, but there's a lot of evidence.

totodeinhere

(13,593 posts)
25. The question is, what can be done about it?
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:20 PM
Saturday

Will we have a fair election in 2026 and 2028? Will the American people have the ability to vote MAGA out and put the Democrats back in power, or not?

Peer Gynt

(9 posts)
26. You're on the right track
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:25 PM
Saturday

Trump and his inner circle want to destroy the U.S. economy and military. Look at a map of the arctic or the top of a globe. Putin wants a white supremacist northern (soviet) union, including Canada, the U.S.A., and Greenland. Next will be all of Scandinavia and Finland.

Otterdaemmerung

(126 posts)
27. What else would one expect from a grifter who so easily launched an anti-American insurrection
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:29 PM
Saturday

based on a whopper of a lie?

He had no legitimate reason to have a rally across from the Capitol on that Jan. 6. NO reason. He had already lost the election.

Meowmee

(8,427 posts)
29. It was pretty obvious destroying the country is the goal here
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:38 PM
Saturday

Last edited Sun Apr 6, 2025, 02:20 AM - Edit history (1)

Stock market crash the latest casualty. It was on a high in January and he did it by design with the tariff back and forth crap at first and then the April tariffs was the last straw.

J_William_Ryan

(2,622 posts)
30. "It's been quite obvious for some time."
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:42 PM
Saturday

It’s been obvious since Nixon – Reagan destroyed the middle class; Trump is going after what is left.

Martin Eden

(14,100 posts)
32. Explanation: Kraznov
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:52 PM
Saturday

The Felon is a Russian asset.

The only question is whether he knows it.

Sogo

(6,173 posts)
33. There is a James Carville video somewhere here on DU that I watched last night, and
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:53 PM
Saturday

he makes your exact point and flatly states that Donald Trump hates America. He hates everything about its institutions, military, education, etc., the very idea of America.

I agree with you and Carville.

AntiFascist

(13,196 posts)
38. As I posted elsewhere, Trump also wants to play the role of General Zod...
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:12 PM
Saturday

He wants the entire world to kneel down before him and pledge their loyalty before he loosens his grip on the economy and democracy. He probably imagines that teaming up with Putin and other authoritarians gives him that much more power in the world.

AdamThePhantump

(216 posts)
42. But it doesn't
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:25 PM
Saturday

It doesn’t give him more power. He’s like a coward running to the first autocrat that’ll help him. He wants America to bow to him and say he is lord and savior.

AntiFascist

(13,196 posts)
45. He's dividing his base and handing an advantage over to Democrats (good for us!)...
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:28 PM
Saturday

also, Europe and other countries will be doing more business with China, so tariffs will probably benefit China in the long run.

bluestarone

(19,451 posts)
41. Hell, i'm not even sure if Americans wake up when
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:24 PM
Saturday

Putin orders his russian boots on American soil.

Martin68

(25,358 posts)
46. Paul Krugman considered this and decided that it is gross incompetence coupled with vast ignorance.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:32 PM
Saturday

But that's just the tariff bit. The arrests and deportations of immigrants, the weaponization of the DOJ, and similar actions are just pure evil.

Cha

(309,492 posts)
47. No apoloagy needed, speak easy, and Very
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:33 PM
Saturday

Well Pointed Out..

Mump is working for Putin.. Not the American People.

biocube

(46 posts)
55. This is what happens
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 06:48 PM
Saturday

When you have a president who is funded by people like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk that literally hate democracy.

Combine that with a middle-schoolers understanding of geopolitics and trade you get this.

Don't fall for the Russian agent conspiracy theory. If that was true he wouldn't be threatening Iran and would be less friendly to Israel.

62. Trump is getting a huge payoff
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 11:33 PM
Saturday

From Putin. What else makes any sense?

Or maybe (and also) Trump is in very advanced dementia

Fil1957

(36 posts)
64. He's getting revenge on America,
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 12:16 AM
Sunday

for losing the 2020 election. Oh sure he says it was rigged, but he knows and believes he actually lost. So he's trying to punish everyone, the Biden voters for obvious reasons, and the Magats because they failed to work hard enough to keep him in office back then.

Similar to the last days of Nazi Germany, when Hitler ordered the destruction of what was left of the German infrastructure because he believed it was the German people's fault they were losing the war, were not worthy of his leadership, and did not deserve to even live.

As he has said before, he loves getting revenge, and he's sure getting some now.

Ilsa

(62,683 posts)
65. I've been thinking this for the last few weeks.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 12:32 AM
Sunday

As far as I can tell, he isn't spending any time or energy with the MAGAts. He isn't doing a damn thing for them, and he isn't having any pep rallies for his ego. He just doesn't give a shit about pretending any more. Maybe Malignia's absence is part of his butt-hurt. But yeah, he's taking his anger out on the entire country, even the world. He's too narcissistic and emotionally underdeveloped to be a real leader.

LS0999

(138 posts)
68. They're not even trying to mask it anymore
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 02:21 AM
Sunday

As far as I'm concerned it's a terrorist coup. Everything they have done is meant to harm and destroy America. It's almost like they're working directly for the Iranian regime.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,030 posts)
69. He wanted another Gilded Age.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 02:38 AM
Sunday

Taking an ax to the economy in every way imaginable, makes sense when you know his Saudi golf buddies can buy stocks at bargain prices - thanks to him

In the last Gilded Age, Americans became the super wealthy. This time wealth and ownership of this country will belong to these new gold card foreign oligarchs who will have our rights - And our money.

That's his new Golden Age.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,030 posts)
80. it took years of bashing FDR to bring on the end of the middle class.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 06:27 PM
Sunday

Fascists are the worst Americans EVER!!!

dedl67

(6 posts)
72. Standard operating procedure for a dictatorship
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 07:26 AM
Sunday

Standard operating procedure for a dictatorship is to obtain blackmail material on everyone they can who could be useful to it. I would be astounded if Russia does not have such material on many, many people in this country.,

Lokee11

(318 posts)
77. KRASNOV
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 11:53 AM
Sunday

Last edited Sun Apr 6, 2025, 02:09 PM - Edit history (1)

SAY IT OUT LOUD!!!!!

This is not new, what I do not understand is how the intelligence agencies allowed this to get this far, unless they have many in on it themselves or are/were so purposefully oblivious to it due to their own cockiness and the belief that it could never happen to them/us?

It baffles me, there is a Traitor in the White House - that is clear - and either those with the actual "authority" and opportunity to stop/end it are too prideful to admit they allowed it to happen and thus it continues, or they are in on it and thus it continues .

I hope I am wrong - I cannot even think straight these days because my anger has clouded my thinking.

Regardless - Cheeto-lini is clearly a Traitor and who knows how many others are too - I suspect many with R's next to their names.

Well - always and forever - ✊FDT!

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