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speak easy

(12,595 posts)
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 12:32 PM Apr 2025

I am no fan of conspiracy theories, but I can not ignore the facts -

Everything, literally everything the administration has done has weakened the United States.

If it was one thing, tariffs or NATO, you could put it down to ideology, but whether it’s killing scientific and medical research, or crippling our response to natural disasters, or gutting the Federal Government wholesale, when you add it all up, you have to conclude it is by design, a plan to break the U.S. politically, economically, internationally, in defense and soft power,
in everything.

This is an anti-American Administration.

Doh! Yeah, I know, I’m slow on the uptake. My apologies to those who saw what it was from the get go.

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I am no fan of conspiracy theories, but I can not ignore the facts - (Original Post) speak easy Apr 2025 OP
Tariffs for uninhabited islands, but no tariffs for Russia or North Korea. Iggo Apr 2025 #1
Trump's reply to that was, RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA. Emile Apr 2025 #3
And Nancy Pelosi's reply to that was: " 'With him, all roads lead to Putin" MLWR Apr 2025 #37
Think "conspiracy theories" are crazy? Here's one that's real: Project 2000 rigged the game. usaf-vet Apr 2025 #44
I totally buy that conspiracy blue_jay Apr 2025 #67
Trump has something against penguins speak easy Apr 2025 #4
It certainly looks like Putin must be very pleased with everything Trump has done. Doodley Apr 2025 #2
If I allow myself to believe that to which all signs point: it is a Putin-Trump conspiracy hlthe2b Apr 2025 #5
Oh, it rhymes, alright! It also keeps the same meter. slightlv Apr 2025 #34
Presidential salary? maddiemom Apr 2025 #56
But Putin and Trump are not really conspiring together. Putin leads and Trump follows, blindly. SharonAnn Apr 2025 #78
Harris warned everyone here about Trump Kaleva Apr 2025 #6
So did Hillary. skydive forever Apr 2025 #12
Yes. Nobody should be surprised or unprepared. Kaleva Apr 2025 #18
And yet ... the studiously ignorant are. nt eppur_se_muova Apr 2025 #50
This is all for Putin. Mr. Evil Apr 2025 #7
How about a game of solitaire? BattleRow Apr 2025 #75
Imagine what a Russian agent would do as president of the United States. Jim__ Apr 2025 #8
I think Trump, like Putin, hates us for our democracy. speak easy Apr 2025 #15
The Mango-chewin Candidate. dchill Apr 2025 #58
It's a trifecta DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #59
That's a REALLY good way to put it. calimary Apr 2025 #74
Dude was always saying he could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th Avenue and get away with it krkaufman Apr 2025 #9
Look, they have had decades of experience double-talking the American public. OldBaldy1701E Apr 2025 #10
He is destroying America to benefit his mentor and owner Putin kimbutgar Apr 2025 #11
I myself don't consider this a conspiracy theories. William769 Apr 2025 #13
Doesn't matter when you come to know it, as long as you KNOW it. ancianita Apr 2025 #14
G.O.P. war is on truth, democracy, and freedom BoRaGard Apr 2025 #16
And no one wants to acknowledge... GiqueCee Apr 2025 #17
I'm with you NCgayguy Apr 2025 #19
'Today's folks protesting are doing our country a great service.' speak easy Apr 2025 #20
You are speaking facts not a conspiracy theory. The whole plan is to destroy the U.S. LoisB Apr 2025 #21
The evidence is undeniable speak easy Apr 2025 #23
To us; then there are those who are willfully blind. LoisB Apr 2025 #36
It's been quite obvious for some time. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #22
'Most people could not wrap their heads around the ugly reality.' speak easy Apr 2025 #31
It is my science training. You go where the data leads you. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #35
There are so many forces at work. yellow dahlia Apr 2025 #61
Yes quite a few bad actors helped take down the US. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #73
Russian interference in the 2016 election is well-documented. yardwork Apr 2025 #24
The question is, what can be done about it? totodeinhere Apr 2025 #25
You're on the right track Peer Gynt Apr 2025 #26
What else would one expect from a grifter who so easily launched an anti-American insurrection Otterdaemmerung Apr 2025 #27
And another thing AdamThePhantump Apr 2025 #28
It was pretty obvious destroying the country is the goal here Meowmee Apr 2025 #29
"It's been quite obvious for some time." J_William_Ryan Apr 2025 #30
Explanation: Kraznov Martin Eden Apr 2025 #32
There is a James Carville video somewhere here on DU that I watched last night, and Sogo Apr 2025 #33
'Donald Trump hates America' speak easy Apr 2025 #54
As I posted elsewhere, Trump also wants to play the role of General Zod... AntiFascist Apr 2025 #38
But it doesn't AdamThePhantump Apr 2025 #42
He's dividing his base and handing an advantage over to Democrats (good for us!)... AntiFascist Apr 2025 #45
Yay democrats! AdamThePhantump Apr 2025 #48
100% right and very scary - NT CommonHumanity Apr 2025 #39
The Antichrist at work Mblaze Apr 2025 #40
Hell, i'm not even sure if Americans wake up when bluestarone Apr 2025 #41
I hope we wake up. AdamThePhantump Apr 2025 #43
Paul Krugman considered this and decided that it is gross incompetence coupled with vast ignorance. Martin68 Apr 2025 #46
No apoloagy needed, speak easy, and Very Cha Apr 2025 #47
A conspiracy does exist and Progressive dog Apr 2025 #49
Was this your big clue ? eppur_se_muova Apr 2025 #51
What was my biggest clue? Drowning FEMA. speak easy Apr 2025 #52
Also that. nt eppur_se_muova Apr 2025 #53
This is what happens biocube Apr 2025 #55
it's not a conspiracy, it's literally what is happening AlexSFCA Apr 2025 #57
Vlad Victory? czarjak Apr 2025 #60
Trump is getting a huge payoff Old Testament Libera Apr 2025 #62
K&R spanone Apr 2025 #63
He's getting revenge on America, Fil1957 Apr 2025 #64
I've been thinking this for the last few weeks. Ilsa Apr 2025 #65
agreed and it's perplexing. Demovictory9 Apr 2025 #66
They're not even trying to mask it anymore LS0999 Apr 2025 #68
He wanted another Gilded Age. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2025 #69
Has anyone challenged him selling citizenship or whatever he is doing for 5 m I think? Meowmee Apr 2025 #70
Only a select few became super wealthy. The rest? Not so much. SharonAnn Apr 2025 #79
it took years of bashing FDR to bring on the end of the middle class. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2025 #80
Wholly agree. mahina Apr 2025 #71
Standard operating procedure for a dictatorship dedl67 Apr 2025 #72
My local gas stations conspire to fix prices!! GreenWave Apr 2025 #76
KRASNOV Lokee11 Apr 2025 #77

Iggo

(49,609 posts)
1. Tariffs for uninhabited islands, but no tariffs for Russia or North Korea.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 12:39 PM
Apr 2025

Probably a coincidence, right?

usaf-vet

(7,743 posts)
44. Think "conspiracy theories" are crazy? Here's one that's real: Project 2000 rigged the game.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:27 PM
Apr 2025

Here’s the blunt truth: Project 2000 was the start of stealing our elections. First, shove Bush into power. Then, quietly computerize the election system while telling voters it’s all about "efficiency" and "security."

The real goal? Make it easier to suppress voters, reject mail-in ballots, and surgically target communities you want to silence — all using data and computer power. It was a long con to normalize cheating right under our noses.

Now fast-forward to today: Project 2025 is the endgame. They’re not just trying to steal elections anymore — they’re coming for our rights, our wealth, and our future, confident they’ve already rigged the system and dumbed down enough of the country to get away with it.

blue_jay

(180 posts)
67. I totally buy that conspiracy
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 01:15 AM
Apr 2025

the second Jeb spoke in some interview in FL before the election was called I knew something was up.

hlthe2b

(112,685 posts)
5. If I allow myself to believe that to which all signs point: it is a Putin-Trump conspiracy
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 12:52 PM
Apr 2025

History may not repeat, but it sure as hell rhymes...

Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin did initially plot together through the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (also known as the Hitler-Stalin Pact). This non-aggression pact, signed in August 1939, allowed them to carve up Eastern Europe into spheres of influence and enabled Hitler to invade Poland, effectively starting World War II. However, this alliance was short-lived, as Hitler later betrayed Stalin by invading the Soviet Union in 1941


Putin has referenced Trump's "seriousness" in his plans to take over Greenland and Canada in recent speeches--as reported by Russian media. Likewise he has suggested an "anticipated" blind eye toward his objectives in Eastern Europe.

Can no one else hear the rhyming? sigh...

slightlv

(7,414 posts)
34. Oh, it rhymes, alright! It also keeps the same meter.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:05 PM
Apr 2025

I think trump doing all this "shock and awe" disaster capitalism stuff is providing cover for putin to carry on with this plans, yet not be so in-your-face about it all. And yes, I thoroughly believe it was all planned. Started around the time of Reagan and PNAC, and just got updated by the Heritage Foundation whenever they had another "Great" idea. If you can put the U.S. back into the time of czarist russia, under the same type of restrictions, we will become like the russian people now -- disillusioned, hopeless, and pliable. However, Americans have *always* been more pliable than any other peoples in the world, AFAIK. They'll not only welcome their dictator masters, they'll hand them the whip. For more than a few of us, tho, we rebel against ANY authoritarianism.. and especially the sadistic way this one is being formed. 90k active duty troops released from the military? 3/4 or more of all federal civil servants kicked out of their jobs? Where are these people suppose to get the money to live on? He's tanking 401k's already. It's 2008 on steroids, and likely to be worse than the 1930's.

Trump is Herbert Hoover without the charm and ideology. trump just does what he's told to do, as long as they make it worth his while. That's why they wrote it all out in a book for him. Of course, HE doesn't read... but Stephen Miller does.

maddiemom

(5,163 posts)
56. Presidential salary?
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 06:14 PM
Apr 2025

What is the story with Trump? Does he take it? Hoover, at least, did not.

SharonAnn

(14,136 posts)
78. But Putin and Trump are not really conspiring together. Putin leads and Trump follows, blindly.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 11:44 AM
Apr 2025

Mr. Evil

(3,434 posts)
7. This is all for Putin.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 01:15 PM
Apr 2025

I'd be willing to bet that if you could speak a certain word or phrase in front of Tulsi Gabbard she'd immediately stand and start speaking fluent Russian (before she could catch herself).

Jim__

(15,060 posts)
8. Imagine what a Russian agent would do as president of the United States.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 01:17 PM
Apr 2025

Actually, we don't have to imagine it. We're living it.

krkaufman

(13,957 posts)
9. Dude was always saying he could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th Avenue and get away with it
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 01:17 PM
Apr 2025

I’m waiting for the editorial cartoons depicting just that, except it’s Uncle Sam he’s gunned-down.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,053 posts)
10. Look, they have had decades of experience double-talking the American public.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 01:18 PM
Apr 2025

It is no wonder that so many fell for it. (Our absolute dependency on stuff that is completely not important to our survival has been drilled into us until even those who can see the programming still obey it from time to time.) Don't feel bad.

Feel Mad.

ancianita

(42,776 posts)
14. Doesn't matter when you come to know it, as long as you KNOW it.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 01:31 PM
Apr 2025

No matter how slow or fast we are about knowing, we're all in this together. You have nothing to apologize for, speakeasy.

GiqueCee

(3,339 posts)
17. And no one wants to acknowledge...
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 01:47 PM
Apr 2025

... the Bear fucking the Elephant in the room. Putin's bloody fingerprints are all over this, and have been for the past ten years. It's a conspiracy, alright, but it ain't no theory; it's as real as a heart attack.

NCgayguy

(255 posts)
19. I'm with you
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:01 PM
Apr 2025

Everything being done by Republicans is premeditated, even the orange buffoon's blatant distractions. It's all to keep everyone talking about the last insane action taken while they execute the next. It gets worse, all those red cap idiots who voted for him that are being hurt by the republican party's actions will soon start thinking the old playground motto, "I'd better defend the bullies or they're gonna come after me". Then you have those idiot become even more militant than they already are. UHM, haven't we seen this before? Oh Yeah, NAZI GERMANY.

Today's folks protesting are doing our country a great service. I just hope none of them get harmed.

BTW, I loved Cory Booker making a stand and God loves Jasmine, but I want to see our DEM LEADERS taking action and not just following up with reels and videos about how great a job they have done. The time for polite response are over, PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, WALK THE WALK OR SHUT UP!

BTW, I don't mean to insult anyone here. I'm a pretty stupid person with no ego. I couldn't join any protest today for personal reasons, so you can call me out on that if you want to, you can't hurt my feelings. Everything I post is just my personal opinion.

Thank you!

speak easy

(12,595 posts)
20. 'Today's folks protesting are doing our country a great service.'
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:06 PM
Apr 2025

Silence is consent. We, as Americans can not consent to traitors taking down the Republic.

Irish_Dem

(79,482 posts)
22. It's been quite obvious for some time.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:10 PM
Apr 2025

Most people could not wrap their heads around the ugly reality.

Yes break the US and destroy everything that made it a powerful, prosperous, respected nation.
And destroy the democratic global alliance.

All by design and in the works for some time.

yardwork

(68,903 posts)
24. Russian interference in the 2016 election is well-documented.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:20 PM
Apr 2025

Trump's connections to Russia are well-documented.

It's not a conspiracy theory if all the facts point in one direction. You can call it a theory that hasn't yet been proven, but there's a lot of evidence.

totodeinhere

(13,686 posts)
25. The question is, what can be done about it?
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:20 PM
Apr 2025

Will we have a fair election in 2026 and 2028? Will the American people have the ability to vote MAGA out and put the Democrats back in power, or not?

Peer Gynt

(10 posts)
26. You're on the right track
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:25 PM
Apr 2025

Trump and his inner circle want to destroy the U.S. economy and military. Look at a map of the arctic or the top of a globe. Putin wants a white supremacist northern (soviet) union, including Canada, the U.S.A., and Greenland. Next will be all of Scandinavia and Finland.

Otterdaemmerung

(136 posts)
27. What else would one expect from a grifter who so easily launched an anti-American insurrection
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:29 PM
Apr 2025

based on a whopper of a lie?

He had no legitimate reason to have a rally across from the Capitol on that Jan. 6. NO reason. He had already lost the election.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
29. It was pretty obvious destroying the country is the goal here
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:38 PM
Apr 2025

Last edited Sun Apr 6, 2025, 01:20 AM - Edit history (1)

Stock market crash the latest casualty. It was on a high in January and he did it by design with the tariff back and forth crap at first and then the April tariffs was the last straw.

J_William_Ryan

(3,306 posts)
30. "It's been quite obvious for some time."
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:42 PM
Apr 2025

It’s been obvious since Nixon – Reagan destroyed the middle class; Trump is going after what is left.

Martin Eden

(15,327 posts)
32. Explanation: Kraznov
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:52 PM
Apr 2025

The Felon is a Russian asset.

The only question is whether he knows it.

Sogo

(6,967 posts)
33. There is a James Carville video somewhere here on DU that I watched last night, and
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:53 PM
Apr 2025

he makes your exact point and flatly states that Donald Trump hates America. He hates everything about its institutions, military, education, etc., the very idea of America.

I agree with you and Carville.

AntiFascist

(13,718 posts)
38. As I posted elsewhere, Trump also wants to play the role of General Zod...
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:12 PM
Apr 2025

He wants the entire world to kneel down before him and pledge their loyalty before he loosens his grip on the economy and democracy. He probably imagines that teaming up with Putin and other authoritarians gives him that much more power in the world.

AdamThePhantump

(240 posts)
42. But it doesn't
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:25 PM
Apr 2025

It doesn’t give him more power. He’s like a coward running to the first autocrat that’ll help him. He wants America to bow to him and say he is lord and savior.

AntiFascist

(13,718 posts)
45. He's dividing his base and handing an advantage over to Democrats (good for us!)...
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:28 PM
Apr 2025

also, Europe and other countries will be doing more business with China, so tariffs will probably benefit China in the long run.

bluestarone

(21,087 posts)
41. Hell, i'm not even sure if Americans wake up when
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:24 PM
Apr 2025

Putin orders his russian boots on American soil.

Martin68

(26,978 posts)
46. Paul Krugman considered this and decided that it is gross incompetence coupled with vast ignorance.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:32 PM
Apr 2025

But that's just the tariff bit. The arrests and deportations of immigrants, the weaponization of the DOJ, and similar actions are just pure evil.

Cha

(316,494 posts)
47. No apoloagy needed, speak easy, and Very
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:33 PM
Apr 2025

Well Pointed Out..

Mump is working for Putin.. Not the American People.

biocube

(166 posts)
55. This is what happens
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 05:48 PM
Apr 2025

When you have a president who is funded by people like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk that literally hate democracy.

Combine that with a middle-schoolers understanding of geopolitics and trade you get this.

Don't fall for the Russian agent conspiracy theory. If that was true he wouldn't be threatening Iran and would be less friendly to Israel.

62. Trump is getting a huge payoff
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:33 PM
Apr 2025

From Putin. What else makes any sense?

Or maybe (and also) Trump is in very advanced dementia

Fil1957

(514 posts)
64. He's getting revenge on America,
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 11:16 PM
Apr 2025

for losing the 2020 election. Oh sure he says it was rigged, but he knows and believes he actually lost. So he's trying to punish everyone, the Biden voters for obvious reasons, and the Magats because they failed to work hard enough to keep him in office back then.

Similar to the last days of Nazi Germany, when Hitler ordered the destruction of what was left of the German infrastructure because he believed it was the German people's fault they were losing the war, were not worthy of his leadership, and did not deserve to even live.

As he has said before, he loves getting revenge, and he's sure getting some now.

Ilsa

(63,791 posts)
65. I've been thinking this for the last few weeks.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 11:32 PM
Apr 2025

As far as I can tell, he isn't spending any time or energy with the MAGAts. He isn't doing a damn thing for them, and he isn't having any pep rallies for his ego. He just doesn't give a shit about pretending any more. Maybe Malignia's absence is part of his butt-hurt. But yeah, he's taking his anger out on the entire country, even the world. He's too narcissistic and emotionally underdeveloped to be a real leader.

LS0999

(278 posts)
68. They're not even trying to mask it anymore
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 01:21 AM
Apr 2025

As far as I'm concerned it's a terrorist coup. Everything they have done is meant to harm and destroy America. It's almost like they're working directly for the Iranian regime.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,366 posts)
69. He wanted another Gilded Age.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 01:38 AM
Apr 2025

Taking an ax to the economy in every way imaginable, makes sense when you know his Saudi golf buddies can buy stocks at bargain prices - thanks to him

In the last Gilded Age, Americans became the super wealthy. This time wealth and ownership of this country will belong to these new gold card foreign oligarchs who will have our rights - And our money.

That's his new Golden Age.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,366 posts)
80. it took years of bashing FDR to bring on the end of the middle class.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 05:27 PM
Apr 2025

Fascists are the worst Americans EVER!!!

dedl67

(158 posts)
72. Standard operating procedure for a dictatorship
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 06:26 AM
Apr 2025

Standard operating procedure for a dictatorship is to obtain blackmail material on everyone they can who could be useful to it. I would be astounded if Russia does not have such material on many, many people in this country.,

Lokee11

(394 posts)
77. KRASNOV
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 10:53 AM
Apr 2025

Last edited Sun Apr 6, 2025, 01:09 PM - Edit history (1)

SAY IT OUT LOUD!!!!!

This is not new, what I do not understand is how the intelligence agencies allowed this to get this far, unless they have many in on it themselves or are/were so purposefully oblivious to it due to their own cockiness and the belief that it could never happen to them/us?

It baffles me, there is a Traitor in the White House - that is clear - and either those with the actual "authority" and opportunity to stop/end it are too prideful to admit they allowed it to happen and thus it continues, or they are in on it and thus it continues .

I hope I am wrong - I cannot even think straight these days because my anger has clouded my thinking.

Regardless - Cheeto-lini is clearly a Traitor and who knows how many others are too - I suspect many with R's next to their names.

Well - always and forever - ✊FDT!

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