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Jilly_in_VA

(13,783 posts)
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 01:57 PM Apr 2025

Trump to Get Humiliating Third-Row Seat at Pope's Funeral

President Donald Trump is likely to be seated in the third row at Pope Francis’s funeral Saturday.

Despite being one of the first to confirm his attendance after Pope Francis died on Monday, the thin-skinned president—who famously mocked former President Joe Biden’s placement in the 14th row at Queen Elizabeth II’s 2022 funeral—will be seated several rows back at the state funeral in St Peter’s Basilica, the Daily Telegraph reports.

While not exactly the nosebleed section, Trump is famously unenthusiastic about playing second fiddle to anyone, and is unlikely to be thrilled with his location.

The news comes as the Vatican scrambles to manage what one senior clergyman described as a parade of “big egos.”

Cardinal Vincent Nichols, the Archbishop of Westminster, told the Telegraph the ceremony would be a “masterpiece of stage management when you consider those state leaders who have high opinions of their importance.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-likely-to-get-humiliating-seating-assignment-at-pope-francis-funeral-as-vatican-braces-for-big-egos/

It may be improp[er to laugh, but I'm laughing.

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Trump to Get Humiliating Third-Row Seat at Pope's Funeral (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Apr 2025 OP
I hate to be crass senseandsensibility Apr 2025 #1
Well, if the seating's better than djt's, there will be hell to pay when big orange daddy allegorical oracle Apr 2025 #6
Same row, as I understand it. Alphabetical by country for dignitaries. MineralMan Apr 2025 #9
Biden is not part of the official delegation nilram Apr 2025 #23
Lucky him! WestMichRad Apr 2025 #24
Who bets that we will never hear a fuss about that? MuseRider Apr 2025 #32
The thing is, President Biden is a practicing Catholic, TFG is nothing, he will have no clue what to do Rhiannon12866 Apr 2025 #65
My first thought as well Bayard Apr 2025 #44
God I'd hate to have to be the people seated near him underpants Apr 2025 #2
I think I'd bring one of those portable battery-operated fans Sky Jewels Apr 2025 #14
Perhaps an extra thurible TommyT139 Apr 2025 #55
Trump would be incensed PATRICK Apr 2025 #57
Hah!! TommyT139 Apr 2025 #59
Would be so unfair for Biden to be asked to speak and not Trump. Jit423 Apr 2025 #3
Neither will speak malaise Apr 2025 #5
Maybe it will be montanacowboy Apr 2025 #4
President Uecker. cloudbase Apr 2025 #7
I must be in the front row Tribetime Apr 2025 #39
I believe I read that seating of heads of state and other international dignitaries MineralMan Apr 2025 #8
One article I read said French is used, not English karynnj Apr 2025 #10
Hmm...I suppose that's possible, too. Still, that doesn't get him in the 1st row. MineralMan Apr 2025 #12
Royalty comes before secular heads of state, Tanuki Apr 2025 #54
"...masterpiece of stage management when you consider those state leaders who have high opinions of their importance." Xavier Breath Apr 2025 #11
Yeah, it brings a tear to my eye to think who that asshole represents.... nt allegorical oracle Apr 2025 #26
Not us... The Madcap Apr 2025 #37
Should be the very last row and he must stand. republianmushroom Apr 2025 #13
He shouldn't be allowed in the building. spanone Apr 2025 #15
Maybe he'll burst into flames Dulcinea Apr 2025 #31
Nobody puts Baby Trump in the corner!!! VGNonly Apr 2025 #16
put him in "overflow" and he could wash some feet. And kiss them. As if he cared about ANYONE else.. n/t Evolve Dammit Apr 2025 #17
He bragged about how he never diapered his own babies, not even Ivanka. nt allegorical oracle Apr 2025 #29
figures... Evolve Dammit Apr 2025 #35
I wonder if President Biden is going Figarosmom Apr 2025 #18
Yes he is Rebl2 Apr 2025 #22
I guess he'll be in front row Figarosmom Apr 2025 #38
Not how it works. onenote Apr 2025 #61
What an impotent, little mushroom, Hornedfrog2000 Apr 2025 #19
What? No "Nosebleed" section? No seat behind a pillar? sakabatou Apr 2025 #20
On an out-of-order and backed-up toilet? Orrex Apr 2025 #25
Vatican porta potty! nt Dulcinea Apr 2025 #56
Surprised he Rebl2 Apr 2025 #21
3rd row balcony Blue Owl Apr 2025 #27
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #28
A vengeful God would have tsf spontaneously combust. rubbersole Apr 2025 #30
A gutsy Vatican would not even let him attend. He is pretty much against anything they are for. dutch777 Apr 2025 #33
The Pope is a head of state. It's expected that the US president would attend Ocelot II Apr 2025 #52
My big wonder is what will Melangia wear? Clouds Passing Apr 2025 #34
Bet it's low-cut n't Jilly_in_VA Apr 2025 #40
Omg! Clouds Passing Apr 2025 #43
Boom! MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #62
She will probably wear her "Spy vs Spy" hat...wide brim slobby proof. wcmagumba Apr 2025 #51
Trump may see himself as the main event, but at Pope Francis's funeral, he's reportedly stuck in the third row. LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #36
The look on Pope Francis's face is priceless! Dulcinea Apr 2025 #58
The thought of Trump... SkylineChili Apr 2025 #41
If he bursts into flames, Johonny Apr 2025 #42
He should be seated on the toilet... Xolodno Apr 2025 #45
Smile for the camera Norrrm Apr 2025 #46
The Contrast...everytime I see this; I laugh! 😄 electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #48
The whole royal vs non royal thing helps me make sense of it dsc Apr 2025 #47
Betcha trump races for front row and ignores seating arrangement and polite requests that he isn't supposed to be Conjuay Apr 2025 #49
Would Donald do such a thing? Oh, Yeah! He has done it before. Norrrm Apr 2025 #60
I despise that asshole MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #63
This made me smile LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #50
This would be a good time for the Angel of Death to strike #47 Bread and Circuses Apr 2025 #53
Two things: no_hypocrisy Apr 2025 #64
Seems to be in the front row of dignitaries Meowmee Apr 2025 #66
The BeerBarrelPolka Apr 2025 #67
It looked like he was glaring at someone to his right maybe in one pic Meowmee Apr 2025 #68
Yes BeerBarrelPolka Apr 2025 #69
Feels unfair to the lepers who have to sit next to him. meadowlander Apr 2025 #70

allegorical oracle

(6,139 posts)
6. Well, if the seating's better than djt's, there will be hell to pay when big orange daddy
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:07 PM
Apr 2025

gets back to his royal USA throne.

WestMichRad

(2,886 posts)
24. Lucky him!
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:33 PM
Apr 2025

He doesn’t have to sit by the orange anus this time.
On edit: Oops, I was thinking of Obama.

MuseRider

(35,093 posts)
32. Who bets that we will never hear a fuss about that?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:47 PM
Apr 2025

One grownup dignitary to represent and one big, fat yellow baby to whine and talk over anyone and everyone. I just hope he will somehow control himself and not mention how uncomfortable he was or how he should have been this or that.

One would think he could hold back for something as solemn as this but I am not going to bet on it.

Rhiannon12866

(249,328 posts)
65. The thing is, President Biden is a practicing Catholic, TFG is nothing, he will have no clue what to do
Sat Apr 26, 2025, 04:53 AM
Apr 2025

He was an embarrassment at George H.W. Bush's funeral since all the former presidents and first ladies sat together talking quietly among themselves. They made room for Melania since she and TFG were the last to arrive, but he kept wandering around.

And he has no religion. When his eldest sister planned to marry a Catholic, she was afraid to tell her father - according to Mary Trump's book.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
14. I think I'd bring one of those portable battery-operated fans
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:03 PM
Apr 2025

and blow his stench back at him.

MineralMan

(150,526 posts)
8. I believe I read that seating of heads of state and other international dignitaries
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:10 PM
Apr 2025

is done alphabetically, by country. So, the United States comes just after Turkey in the alphabet. Maybe he can sit next to Erdogan or something.. The USA is just another nation as far as the RCC is concerned.

"Please take your seats, Mr. President, with your party. Thank you."

MineralMan

(150,526 posts)
12. Hmm...I suppose that's possible, too. Still, that doesn't get him in the 1st row.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:17 PM
Apr 2025

Les Etats Unis. Depending on which word they go by, Row 3 is about right, I guess. Poor Donwald...

Tanuki

(16,261 posts)
54. Royalty comes before secular heads of state,
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 09:22 PM
Apr 2025

and Catholic royalty are in the front row, with non-Catholic royalty behind them. The secular heads of state are then seated in alphabetical order per the French name of the country, as French was the language of diplomacy when the protocols were developed.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/pope-funeral-seating-plan-donald-trump-b1224146.html

Xavier Breath

(6,413 posts)
11. "...masterpiece of stage management when you consider those state leaders who have high opinions of their importance."
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:15 PM
Apr 2025

Translation: there's this one asshole we all dread having to deal with.

Evolve Dammit

(21,420 posts)
17. put him in "overflow" and he could wash some feet. And kiss them. As if he cared about ANYONE else.. n/t
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:17 PM
Apr 2025

onenote

(45,965 posts)
61. Not how it works.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 10:20 PM
Apr 2025

Argentina gets first seats -- its Francis' home country. Italy goes next -- for obvious reasons. After that, royalty. Then non-royal heads of state are seated by alphabet, using the French names for the country. Because Biden is not part of the official US delegation, it is likely he'll be further back, possibly behind all of the official delegations.

https://www.reuters.com/world/seating-plan-popes-funeral-its-complicated-or-compliqu-2025-04-25/

 

Hornedfrog2000

(866 posts)
19. What an impotent, little mushroom,
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:28 PM
Apr 2025

Unimportant little man to have to sit in the 3rd row! What a loser! Hahahaha

rubbersole

(10,963 posts)
30. A vengeful God would have tsf spontaneously combust.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:40 PM
Apr 2025

"Please, please, please"... (apologies to Sabrina Carpenter)

dutch777

(4,830 posts)
33. A gutsy Vatican would not even let him attend. He is pretty much against anything they are for.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:03 PM
Apr 2025

Ocelot II

(128,840 posts)
52. The Pope is a head of state. It's expected that the US president would attend
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 09:05 PM
Apr 2025

even if he's possibly the Antichrist.

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,320 posts)
36. Trump may see himself as the main event, but at Pope Francis's funeral, he's reportedly stuck in the third row.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:24 PM
Apr 2025


🚨 NEW: Trump may see himself as the main event, but at Pope Francis’s funeral, he’s reportedly stuck in the third row.

Not surprising—it’s no secret the Pope and his people didn’t care for him.

If Biden were still president, he’d be up front—where real leaders sit.


SkylineChili

(63 posts)
41. The thought of Trump...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:54 PM
Apr 2025

This thought of this shithead, rapist, racist, fascist, law-breaking, Constitution-trashing, poisonous, anti-Christ at the Holy Father's funeral makes me want to puke. I hope God smites him where he sits. And his "I don't really care, do you" wife, too.

Xolodno

(7,291 posts)
45. He should be seated on the toilet...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:35 PM
Apr 2025

...that's on the left side as you go towards the Basilica, I know its there. Had to use it in a sudden hurry when I was there, Priests and Swiss Guards didn't even bat an eye, had the look, of, well, if you have to go, go.

dsc

(53,308 posts)
47. The whole royal vs non royal thing helps me make sense of it
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:50 PM
Apr 2025

I had wondered why we would be so far back given that USA starts with an E in French. But the whole royal comes first means many early slots got taken up.

Conjuay

(2,863 posts)
49. Betcha trump races for front row and ignores seating arrangement and polite requests that he isn't supposed to be
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 08:19 PM
Apr 2025

there.

no_hypocrisy

(54,126 posts)
64. Two things:
Sat Apr 26, 2025, 04:46 AM
Apr 2025

1. TSF won't be comfortable, sitting in the midday Vatican sun, listening to Italian, which he doesn't understand. Bored, bored, bored.

2. He won't be able to leave for restroom purposes. His diaper will be protection for only so long.

BeerBarrelPolka

(2,173 posts)
67. The
Sat Apr 26, 2025, 05:21 AM
Apr 2025

The dipshit can't even wear black. He's beyond disgusting.

Edit: And it looks like Biden didn't have the decency to wear black either. Ridiculous.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
68. It looked like he was glaring at someone to his right maybe in one pic
Sat Apr 26, 2025, 05:23 AM
Apr 2025

Maybe Zelensky. Yeah, the blue would make him stand out etc. however I looked it up and navy blue is also considered acceptable for funerals. Biden and Prince William and possibly others also wore blue.

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