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Quiet Em

(2,520 posts)
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:04 PM Apr 2025

It is not normal or ok for a sitting Judge to be arrested by the FBI in a courtroom

and then have the FBI director brag about it on the former twitter, now rightwing cesspool X owned by Musk

And while we might not yet know all the details, it's pretty clear this is an escalated attack on due process. This is a big step toward fascism.

Again, not normal or ok. People need to wake up.

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It is not normal or ok for a sitting Judge to be arrested by the FBI in a courtroom (Original Post) Quiet Em Apr 2025 OP
I would have applauded the arrest of Judge Cannon in her courtroom. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2025 #1
Because she should have NEVER been in a bluestarone Apr 2025 #3
only if they played the bad boys music RANDYWILDMAN Apr 2025 #19
A little "bad boys" music ... JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2025 #37
And the Attorney General of the US getting on TV w/ fake outrage, lecturing tone Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #2
The victim of the domestic violence was sitting in the court when when the judge snuck the defendant out the back door 4139 Apr 2025 #4
The real victim is our Constitution and rule of law. Quiet Em Apr 2025 #5
They should've arrested the judge at her home, instead they went for the dramatic 4139 Apr 2025 #8
I don't believe you are fully understanding what has taken place Quiet Em Apr 2025 #10
Not an Assault on the constitution nor the court.z 4139 Apr 2025 #12
This is fascism. Are a Russian bot? OMGWTF Apr 2025 #20
I believe you have mixed and matched, the judge was arrested by the FBI, not ICE 4139 Apr 2025 #21
I'm **NOT** okay with anyone taking anything Putin's Whore and his admin say at face value on DU... you got us fucked up uponit7771 Apr 2025 #25
Ordered by an FBI director Sugarcoated Apr 2025 #29
THIS !!! Why is this poster taking anything of Putin's Whore or his admin at face value? They shouldn't, not on DU uponit7771 Apr 2025 #24
It is not an anomolous event. pat_k Apr 2025 #32
Can you explain why you think this is an assault on the course in the constitution? 4139 Apr 2025 #13
ICE turned it into an immigration case. hadEnuf Apr 2025 #22
Because in the end there will be no justice xmas74 Apr 2025 #36
They should have waited for the court proceeding to finish to take HIM into custody. chowder66 Apr 2025 #14
Dramatic? It is meant to be a threat. bronxiteforever Apr 2025 #15
*Victims GusBob Apr 2025 #6
"Victims"?? I stand corrected, and stand even more angry! 4139 Apr 2025 #7
Best to wait for facts I reckon GusBob Apr 2025 #9
Accusations are just that. I reckon the jury system bronxiteforever Apr 2025 #18
Who told you any of this? Why do you take it at face value? Thx in advance for any input uponit7771 Apr 2025 #23
I disagree. The real problem is this "guidance" pat_k Apr 2025 #30
There are two cases and potentially multiple victims. Gore1FL Apr 2025 #33
You are aware that ICE put out an administrative warrant, right? That's not a judicial warrant. tornado34jh Apr 2025 #34
Yes, its normal in a fascist/ nazi run country. nt ImNotGod Apr 2025 #11
Never mind, just get into the trains to Trump's camps w/ the group showers w/ special nozzles IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #16
Are we woke yet? jalan48 Apr 2025 #17
Just another day for President Vought jayschool2013 Apr 2025 #26
Are the folks who chanted "Genocide Joe" and "Killer Kamala" paying attention too? Oopsie Daisy Apr 2025 #27
The Judge was not arrested in the courtroom. She was arrested in the courthouse parking lot kelly1mm Apr 2025 #28
K & R FakeNoose Apr 2025 #31
Statement of Senator Tammy Baldwin LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #35

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,574 posts)
1. I would have applauded the arrest of Judge Cannon in her courtroom.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:16 PM
Apr 2025

But, nothing about her rulings was "normal".

Irish_Dem

(79,383 posts)
2. And the Attorney General of the US getting on TV w/ fake outrage, lecturing tone
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:16 PM
Apr 2025

and hypocritical statements.

4139

(2,008 posts)
4. The victim of the domestic violence was sitting in the court when when the judge snuck the defendant out the back door
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:26 PM
Apr 2025

“It is not normal or ok for a sitting Judge” to release the defendant, without cause, while victim of domestic violence is sitting there in the courtroom.

For some reason everyone, including the judge, is ignoring the real victim

Quiet Em

(2,520 posts)
5. The real victim is our Constitution and rule of law.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:34 PM
Apr 2025

Are you telling me you are ok with this action by the FBI?

4139

(2,008 posts)
8. They should've arrested the judge at her home, instead they went for the dramatic
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:56 PM
Apr 2025

I don’t see any constitutional issues at all. There’s nothing special about courtroom…. It’s not like embassy, which is for soilforeign soil.

Quiet Em

(2,520 posts)
10. I don't believe you are fully understanding what has taken place
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:06 PM
Apr 2025

and the consequences of what is happening. This is an assault on our Courts and our Constitution by the Trump administration.

Judge Dugan has not done anything to warrant an arrest. ICE, however, and our FBI, have crossed the lines of legality.

4139

(2,008 posts)
12. Not an Assault on the constitution nor the court.z
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:17 PM
Apr 2025

Just an anomalous event.

It’s absolutely despicable the judge helped the defendant in a domestic violence case escape

OMGWTF

(5,000 posts)
20. This is fascism. Are a Russian bot?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:41 PM
Apr 2025

How are you even remotely okay with a judge being arrested by ICE and taken away?

4139

(2,008 posts)
21. I believe you have mixed and matched, the judge was arrested by the FBI, not ICE
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:00 PM
Apr 2025

How are you okay with a judge helping a domestic violence defendant/perp escape?

uponit7771

(93,469 posts)
25. I'm **NOT** okay with anyone taking anything Putin's Whore and his admin say at face value on DU... you got us fucked up
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:10 PM
Apr 2025

Sugarcoated

(8,235 posts)
29. Ordered by an FBI director
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:20 PM
Apr 2025

A maga loyalist who serves an unhinged fascist and not the rule of law

uponit7771

(93,469 posts)
24. THIS !!! Why is this poster taking anything of Putin's Whore or his admin at face value? They shouldn't, not on DU
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:10 PM
Apr 2025

... something stanks like a muthafucka

pat_k

(12,663 posts)
32. It is not an anomolous event.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:00 PM
Apr 2025

Given that the outcome of an ice arrest could be being sent to a concentration camp in a foreign country, people of good conscience are being forced to make choices -- obstruct ice actions if they can or live with the knowledge that you stood by while someone was sweep into a system being run by a lawless regime.

My sister used to teach in Oakland, CA public schools. People who are still there are putting together strategies for protecting students and parents from ICE. And they all know they could end up in jail. It is a matter on conscience.

I am sure her former colleagues are not alone.

If the 47 regime had any interest in beefing up enforcement against undocumented people commiting crimes, they would afford people the due process they are owed. In denying rights, they are forcing Americans of good will to take a path of civil disobedience to prevent the blatant violations.

I hope that this case results in an injunction against the appalling "guidance" empowering ice to invade court rooms. More on that here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220269030#post30

4139

(2,008 posts)
13. Can you explain why you think this is an assault on the course in the constitution?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:21 PM
Apr 2025

I don’t see it… the judge was hearing a case about domestic violence, not immigration.

hadEnuf

(3,511 posts)
22. ICE turned it into an immigration case.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:03 PM
Apr 2025

None of the alleged victims will see justice, nor will the alleged perpetrator get justice. ICE barged into a legal proceeding in a courthouse and flushed everything down the toilet. There was no way that the alleged perpetrator was going to have his day in court after that.

What part of due process do you not understand?

xmas74

(30,008 posts)
36. Because in the end there will be no justice
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:14 PM
Apr 2025

If the defendant is taken away before a trial is held.
The charge was there but there was no trial. Isn't it innocent until proven guilty?

I'm no fan of dv but this isn't right and you know it. He has the right to face his accuser in court and she has the right to pursue justice. This right was taken away when ICE entered the court room to deport him. That's what should make everyone furious right now.

chowder66

(11,761 posts)
14. They should have waited for the court proceeding to finish to take HIM into custody.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:21 PM
Apr 2025

GusBob

(8,111 posts)
9. Best to wait for facts I reckon
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:59 PM
Apr 2025

The only accusation I read was he a "hit someone 30 times after being asked to turn down music" so I could be wrong

The affidavit mentions battery and domestic violence

bronxiteforever

(11,063 posts)
18. Accusations are just that. I reckon the jury system
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:29 PM
Apr 2025

will do its job because I reckon affidavits can be wrong or be in fact lies.

uponit7771

(93,469 posts)
23. Who told you any of this? Why do you take it at face value? Thx in advance for any input
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:08 PM
Apr 2025

pat_k

(12,663 posts)
30. I disagree. The real problem is this "guidance"
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:46 PM
Apr 2025
https://www.ice.gov/doclib/foia/policy/11072.3_CivilImmEnfActionsCourthouses_01.21.2025.pdf

Allowing ICE to take people into custody who are simply appearing in court as part of a civil matter, criminal matter, or a check in or adjudication of a case related to an asylum petition should be appalling to anyone who believes in the rule of law. Implicit in that belief is the principle that all incentives should be in favor of encouraging people to comply with the law. If you claim to believe in the rule of law but are in favor of forcing people into a catch 22 of following the law and appearing and risking being unlawfully sent to a foriegn prison for life or violating an appearance order, then I submit you really don't care about the rule of law.

Turning courthouses into ICE playgrounds is appalling. Period. I hope this case results in an injunction on the appalling guidance.

Gore1FL

(22,814 posts)
33. There are two cases and potentially multiple victims.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:01 PM
Apr 2025

What specifc laws did the judge break?
Who signed the arrest warrant?
What facts do you know regarding the timeline of events inside the courtroom that day that we do not?



tornado34jh

(1,517 posts)
34. You are aware that ICE put out an administrative warrant, right? That's not a judicial warrant.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:01 PM
Apr 2025

With an administrative warrant, you can't enter a private place or a place where there is a expectation of privacy such as courtroom without consent. Very important distinction. For example, if somebody came to your house to search your place without a judicial warrant, would you consent to that? Also, they could have waited until after the hearing, or better yet, tell the chief judge or whoever is the main person there well in advance. Heck, the courtroom opened at 8:15 am, so I doubt the judge could have had enough time to get to him in the docket. Also, perhaps you should ask the local/state police if he was arrested, particularly in regards to the serious charges against them. Normally, you would have a bail or some type of hearing. It sounds like there wasn't.

 

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
16. Never mind, just get into the trains to Trump's camps w/ the group showers w/ special nozzles
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:24 PM
Apr 2025

☹️

People need to wake up.

OR
never mind, get on these passenger trains to
Trump’s camps,
and just get into those group showers
with those special nozzles

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
27. Are the folks who chanted "Genocide Joe" and "Killer Kamala" paying attention too?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:18 PM
Apr 2025

I guess they're deliriously happy... clearly this is exactly what they wanted to happen. The "uncommitted" movement and those who encouraged it, advocated for it, and promoted it should pay for their treachery. I hope they're voted out and replaced with loyal Democrats.

 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
28. The Judge was not arrested in the courtroom. She was arrested in the courthouse parking lot
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:20 PM
Apr 2025

several days after the alleged incident.

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