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Old Crank

(5,739 posts)
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 06:55 AM Apr 29

Heck of a job Trump. Poilievre losses his seat


Everything Trump touches goes to .....

Canada’s conservative leader Pierre Poilievre loses his own seat in election collapse
The remarkable campaign was upended by a backlash against U.S. President Donald Trump, which sparked a stunning liberal resurgence.

Canada’s conservative leader lost his own seat in Monday’s election to cap off a stunning electoral meltdown that saw the Liberal Party rise from the polling doldrums to secure victory.

Pierre Poilievre, who faced off against Mark Carney and the incumbent center-left Liberals, lost his seat in rural Ottawa to Liberal candidate Bruce Fanjoy, national broadcaster CBC reported.



https://www.politico.eu/article/pierre-poilievre-mark-carney-canada-election-conservative-liberal/
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Heck of a job Trump. Poilievre losses his seat (Original Post) Old Crank Apr 29 OP
The more important thing now is if liberals can get a majority Meowmee Apr 29 #1
There are concerns that P won't lead Old Crank Apr 29 #4
He already said he will Meowmee Apr 29 #5
He says Old Crank Apr 29 #7
Lol we will see 😀 Meowmee Apr 29 #23
He has to hold a seat to serve as leader. AloeVera Apr 29 #13
It's a minority gov with the separatist Bloc Quebecois holding the balance of power. Justice matters. Apr 29 #31
I read it was minority now but not all the details yet... just reading about it. Meowmee Apr 29 #36
It's OK. The PQ is the provincial party in the Quebec elections. Justice matters. Apr 29 #37
Thanks for all the detail 😁 Meowmee Apr 29 #41
I just reviewed the results and realized PM Carney does not need the BQ. Justice matters. Apr 29 #42
I was talking to my brother about it last night or early am and thought he said something about ndp 😁 Meowmee Apr 29 #44
Nope it is a minority government with 169 seats (3 away from majority) with the New democrats with 7 and Bev54 Apr 29 #38
Great news malaise Apr 29 #2
For much, if not most, of the world MLWR Apr 29 #3
This makes me smile. nt Phoenix61 Apr 29 #6
the pendulum appears to finally be swinging back. Javaman Apr 29 #8
May it swing here. pandr32 Apr 29 #26
Everything the GOP felon-rapist touches turns to shit BoRaGard Apr 29 #9
Yeah, Poily, ya hoser, ya! marble falls Apr 29 #12
Oh Canada! NNadir Apr 29 #10
Mango T. Jebus has finally effectively caused an outcome in an election. I hope he has the same ... marble falls Apr 29 #11
Canadians actually know how to fight back against Trumpism. hadEnuf Apr 29 #16
TBH, it's not that difficult for them. maxsolomon Apr 29 #32
At least Canadians realize our guy Trump is no good. Midnight Writer Apr 29 #14
They didn't get a chance to learn how to love him on NBC. Kid Berwyn Apr 29 #30
Happy for you Canada blubunyip Apr 29 #15
thank you. i hope carney keeps him out of this country for the g7 dawn5651 Apr 30 #48
This is what will happen in the U.S. when we Dump Trump, which we will.. a huge shift Left. Joinfortmill Apr 29 #17
The parliamentary system SLClarke Apr 29 #18
Boom! Yes! nt wolfie001 Apr 29 #19
Well done, Canada. Magoo48 Apr 29 #20
Kick dalton99a Apr 29 #21
He has already made moves to have an elected conservative in an Edmonton riding Bev54 Apr 29 #39
Hopefully, this will spread internationally... Wounded Bear Apr 29 #22
Do not pass go, do not collect $200 EnergizedLib Apr 29 #24
I am thrilled our trump clone lost his seat... Spazito Apr 29 #25
Indeed it was. AloeVera Apr 29 #27
Yep, hindsight is 20/20... Spazito Apr 29 #28
Fanjoy beat the trumpy fascist MagickMuffin Apr 29 #29
It is sublime that the most joyless man in Canadian politics was upended by a man with actual joy in his name. Bev54 Apr 29 #40
Love the "Heckofajob!" Grins Apr 29 #33
"polling doldrums" doesn't begin to cover this turnaround. BobTheSubgenius Apr 29 #34
i just hope that the crap party as i call them sends pp a message that they no longer want him as leader. dawn5651 Apr 29 #35
There's a sound of knives being sharpened in the Canadian Conservative Party as I write this. ClarencesBrother Apr 29 #43
that is what i believe is going to happen...saw his interview where he was eating a apple..and if you dawn5651 Apr 30 #47
What I hate about all this is that the NDP is pretty much dead now yliza Apr 29 #45
So much winning. Heckuva job, Chumpy Hassler Apr 29 #46

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
1. The more important thing now is if liberals can get a majority
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:02 AM
Apr 29

and have more power. P will still lead the conservatives even if he lost his seat.

It’s still great Carney is the PM.

Old Crank

(5,739 posts)
4. There are concerns that P won't lead
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:11 AM
Apr 29

Especially after this disastrous showing. The election was theirs to lose. And he lost it.

We will see.

Old Crank

(5,739 posts)
7. He says
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:26 AM
Apr 29

What will the party say. If they are smart they will dump him and his other baggage other than liking Trump.

AloeVera

(2,954 posts)
13. He has to hold a seat to serve as leader.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:06 AM
Apr 29

He made the announcement he would stay as leader before he found out he lost his own seat.

Looks good on him.

The party may try to parachute him into another riding with a by-election. Doubtful though.

Justice matters.

(8,412 posts)
31. It's a minority gov with the separatist Bloc Quebecois holding the balance of power.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:35 PM
Apr 29

Racist Albertains scream independence to become the orange menace's 51st state...

They should create their own provincial separatist party like the Parti Quebecois in Quebec does, otherwise they have zero chance of ever doing it.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
36. I read it was minority now but not all the details yet... just reading about it.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 06:08 PM
Apr 29

My brother said conservatives gained a lot too, so it was a thin margin. I didn't know pq was still separatist. Yikes, those Albertans are nuts, I assume not all.

Justice matters.

(8,412 posts)
37. It's OK. The PQ is the provincial party in the Quebec elections.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:19 PM
Apr 29

The BQ (Bloc Québécois) is the (brother) party that presents candidates in federal elections only. It now holds the "balance of power" in Ottawa's Chamber of Communes (Parliament system) where it must side with the Liberal minority there in order to keep the government passing its bills, thus remaining at the elms.

That means that PM Carney and his team must negotiate every vote with the BQ in order to stay in power. If the BQ decides to vote against any of his bills, thus siding with the conservatives opposing them, the minority could be defeated and a new election would have to be called to sort it out.

Each federal election costs a lot of money to each party, and their coffers are near empty at the moment, so no party holding the balance of power is interested to provoke a new election soon, unless, like for example, the provincial separatist party (PQ) was to win a majority in Quebec and would hold a winning referendum for Quebec's separation, and then Ottawa would refuse to recognize the results; that would be unacceptable for the federal delegation in the Bloc, of course. The Bloc could then "defeat" any bill there (if the cons would oppose that same bill), provoking a federal election to be called.

It's kind of unpredictable at the moment, but the next provincial election in Quebec is not in the view yet.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
41. Thanks for all the detail 😁
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:44 PM
Apr 29

I have to read more about it. My brother understands it all. I guess we should have been voting but we never have for Canadian elections.

Justice matters.

(8,412 posts)
42. I just reviewed the results and realized PM Carney does not need the BQ.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:08 PM
Apr 29

So my explanation is not accurate now.

He needs the small delegation of the NDP (New Democratic Party, the "Left&quot and the smaller 1 instead.

172 is the majority mark.

He has 169 and the NDP has 7.

These may change as a few recounts will have to be held in narrow gap wins.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4jd39g8y1o

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
44. I was talking to my brother about it last night or early am and thought he said something about ndp 😁
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:14 PM
Apr 29

It's all a blur. I have not slept much 😹

Bev54

(12,496 posts)
38. Nope it is a minority government with 169 seats (3 away from majority) with the New democrats with 7 and
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:27 PM
Apr 29

green party with 1. He does not need the bloq, thankfully.

BoRaGard

(5,675 posts)
9. Everything the GOP felon-rapist touches turns to shit
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:37 AM
Apr 29

Tuff nuts Poily. Hang with a lying scumbucket, wind up a loser

marble falls

(65,946 posts)
11. Mango T. Jebus has finally effectively caused an outcome in an election. I hope he has the same ...
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:04 AM
Apr 29

... effect in every election from now on!

Midnight Writer

(24,147 posts)
14. At least Canadians realize our guy Trump is no good.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:14 AM
Apr 29

A bit of a sanity check for me, since about everyone I talk to thinks he's great.

Canadians re-affirm my judgement.

Kid Berwyn

(20,618 posts)
30. They didn't get a chance to learn how to love him on NBC.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 12:47 PM
Apr 29

From Google the not-dumb smart A.I.:

The Apprentice was so successful that, according to Trump, he earned $214 million from 14 seasons of the show, plus more from related product licensing as his name as a brand became more valuable. As the popularity of the series grew, more and more of the tasks began to be tied to specific companies.

SLClarke

(61 posts)
18. The parliamentary system
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:41 AM
Apr 29

This is AMAZING, truly amazing! In the parliamentary system, the head of the party usually comes from a very safe seat, and mostly has a 100% chance of keeping it. For Poilievre to lose his seat to a Liberal candidate makes it an even more powerful statement of the dislike that Canadians have for That One.
I, a an immigrant from England, am stunned by the result. Delighted too.

Bev54

(12,496 posts)
39. He has already made moves to have an elected conservative in an Edmonton riding
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:34 PM
Apr 29

give up his seat for PP to run in a bi-election. Carney has to call for the bi-election, which is fun. Poilievre will forever be in opposition, he does not know how to govern and not sure he even wants to. He likes being a Maple Maga acting like a vindictive, grievance guided, nasty immature juvenile.

Wounded Bear

(62,120 posts)
22. Hopefully, this will spread internationally...
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 09:44 AM
Apr 29

There has been a resurgence of extreme right wing politics around the globe, and the rise of fascisitic/autocratic regimes in Europe and elsewhere. Nice to see Canada beat that movement down. I hope the rest of the world follows.

Go Canada!

AloeVera

(2,954 posts)
27. Indeed it was.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 11:23 AM
Apr 29

Poilievre is probably kicking himself now for going after Trudeau so viciously and unfairly. Talk about cutting off your nose!

Spazito

(55,185 posts)
28. Yep, hindsight is 20/20...
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 11:40 AM
Apr 29

Had Trudeau stayed we would be seeing a majority Con government, imo, that would sell Canada out without a second thought.

Bev54

(12,496 posts)
40. It is sublime that the most joyless man in Canadian politics was upended by a man with actual joy in his name.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:37 PM
Apr 29

Grins

(8,439 posts)
33. Love the "Heckofajob!"
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:16 PM
Apr 29

First said by the 3rd worst president, the smirking dry-drunk who said it to his director of FEMA, Mike Brown. Before he fired him….

BobTheSubgenius

(12,016 posts)
34. "polling doldrums" doesn't begin to cover this turnaround.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:31 PM
Apr 29

I was actually worried that Carney was campaigning much, MUCH too little. I have no idea what the numbers were, but I'd venture to say that the Liberals were outspent at least 5 to 1...but perhaps that was a parallax view, so to speak, because of living in coastal BCGreater Vancouver. It's fairly reliably both lower case "l" and upper case "L" and they were spending money more judiciously.

I disliked Poilievre and his campaign from the first time I saw his OFT-repeated campaign video. It was simplistic and unrealistic to the point of being insulting. His "common sense budget" was going to stop crime, make housing (a nice house in a good, safe neighbourhood!!!!), make us all able to put "good food" on the table and several other ridiculous claims.

If that was possible, you'd think someone before him would have stumbled onto "common sense." When it became obvious (or more obvious) that he was a Junior Drumpf. my dislike became disdain, then outright loathing.

dawn5651

(707 posts)
35. i just hope that the crap party as i call them sends pp a message that they no longer want him as leader.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:58 PM
Apr 29

ClarencesBrother

(18 posts)
43. There's a sound of knives being sharpened in the Canadian Conservative Party as I write this.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:09 PM
Apr 29

Many Conservatives are pissed that PP blew this election, nor do they appreciate his style, arrogant, egotistical, leading by fear and not allowing any of his party to speak to the press without him and his cronies vetting every word. Sound familiar? Trust me, the knives are coming out.

dawn5651

(707 posts)
47. that is what i believe is going to happen...saw his interview where he was eating a apple..and if you
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 12:41 AM
Apr 30

haven't seen the billboard that fanjoy paid for its worth a look...i honestly believe that the support of the freedumb convoy is what made people start to think..that was disgusting him supporting them while they were terrorizing people in that neighbourhood.

yliza

(149 posts)
45. What I hate about all this is that the NDP is pretty much dead now
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:23 PM
Apr 29

I hope they can make a comeback. I don’t want Canada to become a two party country like the US. We just got national dental care because the Liberals needed the NDP to form a government in the last election.

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