Are you watching Rachel with report about a home invasion - and these were US citizens

[malaise]

https://kfor.com/news/local/were-citizens-oklahoma-city-family-traumatized-after-ice-raids-home-but-they-werent-suspects/

I am in tears

Adding this link https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220280338

[LymphocyteLover]

1. I read about that earlier. Horrifying. They have to sue for this insanity.

[Irish_Dem]

12. I read about it, but the TV news story makes it real and horrifying.

Who does the family sue?

The family has no idea which agency broke into their home, destroyed it and took
their possessions. Most likely ICE.

[IzzaNuDay]

2. Listening to it in my car.

this is so effing shameful.
I wouldn’t be surprised if more of this happens.

[montanacowboy]

3. I can hardly believe

what I am hearing, it's like a bad dream and you can't wake up

[malaise]

4. Dragged her and her daughters out in their underwear

In the fucking rain.

This has to be stopped.

[Irish_Dem]

13. With guns shoved in their faces in the dark.

[Bayard]

22. AND took all their money!

[markodochartaigh]

25. Civil asset forfeiture is a racket

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/08/18/civil-asset-forfeiture-explained/74802279007/

[Ilsa]

5. And then she lists many others who were told

to self-deport, doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc.

[TommyT139]

6. Secret police

With no way to find out who it was.

If she had tried to resist (as she said, if she had a gun as is her right) -- she would be dead, with her daughters, and the Trumpists addding "+3" to their win column.

[AntiFascist]

28. I doubt having a gun would have helped, but this is clearly a situation covered under the 2nd Amendment...

"being necessary to the security of a free State". What's needed is a well regulated militia to protect those freedoms.

[TommyT139]

32. I referenced that

...because the citizen victim had mentioned it. And one can assume that if the family has a dog, the gestapo would have shot it.

[AntiFascist]

40. It's interesting to note that Kamala Harris has mentioned owning a glock...

I wonder what she would have done or will do, in that circumstance?

[Ilsa]

7. And no one is taking responsibility. Meanwhile, the

invaders have the family's phones, computers, cash. They broke in, breaking glass in the rental home. They left no calling card, no list of what they stole. NO ONE IS TAKING RESPONSIBILITY!!!

[tishaLA]

8. SCOTUS has a case in front of it regardubg whether victims of this shit

can sue. It's hard to believe it's even an open question.

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-fbi-raid-wrong-house-df4fd6235660a67e4b34a1f790c674ca

The Supreme Court seemed likely Tuesday to rule narrowly in favor of a family trying to hold federal law enforcement accountable in court after an FBI raid wrongly targeted their Atlanta home.

The justices seemed open to giving them another chance to sue over the raid, but wary of handing down a more sweeping ruling on federal liability in law enforcement cases.

[Irish_Dem]

9. Shocking story, so brave of Oklahoma to run the story.

[DET]

10. Absolutely Horrific

Heartbreaking. That poor woman and her kids have been traumatized for life. And - incredibly - they took her life savings in cash. Why? This is not who we are. This has to stop.

[Irish_Dem]

16. Took all their cash, computer equipment and phones.

Wouldn't tell her who they were, how to get her stuff back.
They told her maybe months to get it back.

These are US citizens.

[Mike Nelson]

11. I saw the main one...

... about the woman and her kids, on FB. I wondered, "Why isn't this on the news?" Good for Rachel... to report this and the similar stories. Hope the stories get even more play tomorrow. It's just surreal... and Canada saying the US no longer a friend. AND, his fans cheer him, at the rally tonight, saying he's the greatest President in history. His fans love the cruelty. It's horrifying... what we've become...

[senseandsensibility]

14. Kudos to Rachel for covering this horrific story

Is tonight her last show?

[Moostache]

15. Sickening... just no words. (n/t)

[JT45242]

17. In a sane world the entire crew would be suspended pending internal affairs

Every one of them should lose badges, pensions, and potentially face criminal charges.

[Blue Owl]

18. K&R for visibility

What. The. Fuck.

[Hekate]

19. I did. That poor woman sobbed uncontrollably during the whole interview. I read about it here yesterday...

…so I was somewhat prepared. They stuck a gun in her face, put her and her daughters out in the rain in their underwear, smashed the house, and STOLE her electronics and her LIFE SAVINGS.

No ID, no warrant, no nothing. THEY STOLE. They TERRORIZED. And NO agency will claim them.

Fucking Nazi Gestapo THUGS.

[skypilot]

20. Civil forfeiture has always been abused...

...and now it can be unleashed in the name of cracking down on illegal immigrants even when the victims are actually citizens. This family was simply ROBBED.

[KT2000]

21. the way this was conducted

could have been perpetrated by idiot MAGAs. Probably not, but they did not give their names or cards. How are citizens supposed to know who is invading their homes?

[soldierant]

23. I might point out

that people of color, citizens, have been having experiences like this forever in this country, and under administrations ranging from very Republican to very Democratic.

And it's always horrifying. It's always been horrifying to anyone with any empathy. Oklahoma in particular has quite the history.

This is indeed terrible, But it isn't on the Mango Monster, or at least no to the point people seem to think it is.

[malaise]

33. Valid point

Rec

[soldierant]

39. Thanks.

"Approbation from Sir Hubert Stanley is praise indeed."

[Bayard]

24. This is a horrifying story

Wondering if it would have been any different if the husband was there.

I've been wondering about how this would go down in, "hold your ground," states..... They break into your house, waving guns around, no badges, no I.D., no paperwork--and rob you. Unreasonable search and seizure, at the least.

[MuirHero]

29. What happens if they break into the wrong citizen's home

And those citizens are heavily armed and shoot the intruders as they are breaking down the door? I am armed and any intruder who breaks into my home is going to get shot. We have a constitutional right to protest our persons and our property.

[malaise]

34. They did

Right here

[ReRe]

26. Imagine how women

all over this country must feel after seeing this on Rachel tonight! Locked doors and windows mean nothing to thugs like this. Just think, a woman and her three daughters! Just when I think I couldn't be more enraged by this administration of thugs, here it comes again, only this is physical for cripes sakes. A crack Police department should be able to glean evidence out of the scene, her description of the people, the vehicles they drove, etc. Did she have a land line phone? What about the neighbors, did they not see/hear anything? With 4 females, you know there had to be screaming! Even if this group were not governmental in any way, Trump is totally responsible for it.

[czarjak]

27. "What have you got to lose."

It was a test.

[róisín_dubh]

30. I'd be getting a gun and getting trained

First time in my life I’ve ever uttered those words.
I’m 48 years old. Fuck these people

[malaise]

35. Her fear and tears were too much for me

This is unacceptable

[Irish_Dem]

45. I feel exactly the same way.

First time in my life I want to own a gun.
For when the ICE nazi gestapo starts manhandling me or my family.

[Greybnk48]

31. Tom Franz, the Fox Valley University (of Wisconsin) administrator, is someone I worked with daily for 18 years.

I taught at that campus, knew him well. Our kids were friends in school.

When this story came out, I was shocked beyond words! Tom immediately contacted Senator Tammy Baldwin, (D-WI), and she went after Homeland Security. They immediately backed off and said it was a mistake, and want to say "no harm, no foul." But as Tom said to the media, that's what they said about Kilmar Garcia. He doesn't trust it at all.

This is so shocking to know someone who was targeted!

[allegorical oracle]

36. Was outraged and confused. If whatever agencies involved in that raid were acting

legally, wouldn't the law require them to wear/show ID? And wouldn't they proudly show ID, unless they're ashamed of what they're doing?

Made me wonder if there are some "freelance" militia-type groups invading homes, stealing money, phones, and laptops from homeowners. Women with children and without a male in the home would seem most vulnerable. It could also be that the previous occupants of that home were the intended prey.

Hope there are follow-ups to this story.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

42. Saw an article that they are now using "Trump supporters."

[Grins]

37. Yes! And the stories that followed!

Equally horrifying!

[malaise]

38. More here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220281762

[kerry-is-my-prez]

41. And how many criminals are going to start impersonating "Ice Agents"?

If I were a criminal, I might plan breaking into a home with some other thugs, take their money, jewelry, valuables. These thugs often have no uniforms, search warrants, IDs. Right now, it seems they’re breaking into “brown people’s” homes so it seems to “cover them.” Then, they can go down the line: Asians, blacks, pesky intellectuals.

[malaise]

43. Rachel in this again

Says it was HSI

How does she get her home repaired and have her money etc returned.

[malaise]

44. HSI is an armed Homeland Security group

Hmmmmmmm.