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Uncle Joe

(61,736 posts)
Fri May 2, 2025, 02:46 PM May 2

Why Smart People Don't Care About Social Life - Schopenhauer



Have you ever wondered why some of the smartest people prefer solitude over parties? 🧠 In this video, we explore Arthur Schopenhauer’s fascinating philosophy on why intelligent individuals often withdraw from social life—not because they hate people, but because they find most interactions shallow and draining.
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Why Smart People Don't Care About Social Life - Schopenhauer (Original Post) Uncle Joe May 2 OP
"free from the exhausting performance of social approval" leftstreet May 2 #1
Read Schopenhauer's 'On Women' GenThePerservering May 2 #2
Well, he was born in the late 1700s and had Mommy issues leftstreet May 2 #3
Thank you. ❤️ littlemissmartypants May 2 #20
Maybe because they ask themselves SocialDemocrat61 May 2 #4
Schopenhauer held that one's tolerance for noise was in inverse proportion to their intelligence. Harker May 2 #5
I know way more men who are immature so screw him. Dave Bowman May 2 #21
(Yawn) Was gonna check this out but... 3825-87867 May 2 #6
As someone once said, if you really like to be alone in a room, it is not enough that no one spike jones May 2 #7
That's not true. I love isolation. Orrex May 2 #8
Same here. That's why I live in the middle of nowhere. Just trees, birds, twinkling fireflies, clean allegorical oracle May 2 #14
That sounds Rebl2 May 2 #29
It is. But I have to keep reminding myself of those nice things. It's so easy to get caught allegorical oracle May 2 #32
Me too Rebl2 May 2 #27
We're just dismayed by how many stupid people there are in the world. Aristus May 2 #9
I'm a natural introvert and prefer my own company (and my husband's and dog's) to others. Texin May 2 #10
I am the same type of person as you. I prefer talking with my close acquaintances about history and culture. John1956PA May 2 #30
Have you read 'An abridged version of Arthur Schopenhauer's famous essay On Women' Uncle Joe? littlemissmartypants May 2 #11
Do you believe a person can be right about one thing and wrong on another? Uncle Joe May 2 #15
I believe that one man can be deeply disturbing and disturbed. ... littlemissmartypants May 2 #22
The OP isn't about women. n/t Uncle Joe May 2 #23
But just smart people... littlemissmartypants May 2 #25
and introverts along with the need or lack of need for social interaction. Uncle Joe May 2 #26
An incel! 58Sunliner May 2 #19
Lol, yeah he was a pioneer in red pill nonsense. What a dick. Dave Bowman May 2 #24
I worry about you. littlemissmartypants May 2 #12
I worry about all of us. Uncle Joe May 2 #16
I'm not sure about that. littlemissmartypants May 2 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles May 2 #13
Religion? Cherokee100 May 2 #17
Knr UTUSN May 2 #28
I wonder what he would have said about left handed ambiverts. chowder66 May 2 #31
Hey.... that's me! 😄👍 electric_blue68 May 2 #33
I'm considered quite high IQ . I enjoy having a social life. First had to do w testing as a kid to see if different.... electric_blue68 May 2 #34
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leftstreet

(36,755 posts)
1. "free from the exhausting performance of social approval"
Fri May 2, 2025, 03:22 PM
May 2

Schopenhauer rocks! (rocked)

Thanks for posting this

Harker

(16,243 posts)
5. Schopenhauer held that one's tolerance for noise was in inverse proportion to their intelligence.
Fri May 2, 2025, 04:09 PM
May 2

I suppose that made him feel better about himself.

He also stated that women were the perfect caregivers for children because they themselves remained children throughout their lives.

Being a philosopher doesn't mean that one's smart and doesn't preclude their being an asshole.

spike jones

(1,872 posts)
7. As someone once said, if you really like to be alone in a room, it is not enough that no one
Fri May 2, 2025, 04:14 PM
May 2

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is in there with you, there has to be empty chairs.

allegorical oracle

(4,970 posts)
14. Same here. That's why I live in the middle of nowhere. Just trees, birds, twinkling fireflies, clean
Fri May 2, 2025, 05:24 PM
May 2

air, spring water to drink, the call of sandhill cranes migrating north, aroma of newly mown hay, sunrises, sunsets, full moons, deer with their fawns, bubbling blue springs, fragrant magnolias, calving season -- with all the little ones playing like puppies in the fields.

So, it's easy to be alone if you know what to look and listen for.

allegorical oracle

(4,970 posts)
32. It is. But I have to keep reminding myself of those nice things. It's so easy to get caught
Fri May 2, 2025, 07:52 PM
May 2

up in the terror of the news and our politics. Didn't appreciate how much calmer and kinder it was when Biden was in office.

Rebl2

(16,376 posts)
27. Me too
Fri May 2, 2025, 05:54 PM
May 2

I have always been introverted when it comes to parties. I can’t stand them unless it’s a family gathering. When I was young I did go to bars with girlfriends, but wasn’t crazy about it. I would have rather been in an interesting class at college than a bar.

Aristus

(70,008 posts)
9. We're just dismayed by how many stupid people there are in the world.
Fri May 2, 2025, 04:34 PM
May 2

And just really, really sick of their shit.

I'm staying home. Best way to avoid the 'the world is run by the lizard people' people.

Texin

(2,724 posts)
10. I'm a natural introvert and prefer my own company (and my husband's and dog's) to others.
Fri May 2, 2025, 04:54 PM
May 2

I don't hate people, but I don't like to mingle in larger gatherings with people I don't know and don't really care to know. Cocktail party jibbering just makes me tired and anxious.

John1956PA

(4,091 posts)
30. I am the same type of person as you. I prefer talking with my close acquaintances about history and culture.
Fri May 2, 2025, 06:14 PM
May 2

littlemissmartypants

(27,743 posts)
11. Have you read 'An abridged version of Arthur Schopenhauer's famous essay On Women' Uncle Joe?
Fri May 2, 2025, 05:10 PM
May 2
An abridged version of Arthur Schopenhauer’s famous essay
On Women

Updated translation
The nature of the female
One needs only to see the way she is built to realize that woman is not intended for great mental or for great physical labor. She expiates the guilt of life not through activity but through suffering, through the pains of childbirth, caring for the child and subjection to the man, to whom she should be a patient and cheering companion. Great suffering, joy, exertion, is not for her: her life should flow by more quietly, trivially, gently than the man’s without being essentially happier or unhappier.

Women are suited to being the nurses and teachers of our earliest childhood precisely because they themselves are childish, silly and short-sighted, in a word big children, their whole lives long: a kind of intermediate stage between the child and the man, who is the actual human being, ‘man.’ One has only to watch a girl playing with a child, dancing and singing with it the whole day, and then ask oneself what, with the best will in the world, a man could do in her place.

Natural weapons
In the girl nature has had in view what could in theatrical terms be called a stage-effect: it has provided her with superabundant beauty and charm for a few years at the expense of the whole remainder of her life, so that during these years she may so capture the imagination of a man that he is carried away into undertaking to support her honorably in some form or another for the rest of her life, a step he would seem hardly likely to take for purely rational considerations. Thus nature has equipped women, as it has all its creatures, with the tools and weapons she needs for securing her existence, and at just the time she needs them; in doing which nature has acted with its usual economy. For just as the female ant loses its wings after mating, since they are then superfluous, indeed harmful to the business of raising the family, so the woman usually loses her beauty after one or two childbeds, and probably for the same reason.

Female truth
The fundamental defect of the female character is a lack of a sense of justice. This originates first and foremost in their want of rationality and capacity for reflexion but it is strengthened by the fact that, as the weaker sex, they are driven to rely not on force but on cunning: hence their instinctive subtlety and their ineradicable tendency to tell lies: for, as nature has equipped the lion with claws and teeth, the elephant with tusks, the wild boar with fangs, the bull with horns and the cuttlefish with ink, so it has equipped woman with the power of dissimulation as her means of attack and defence, and has transformed into this gift all the strength it has bestowed on man in the form of physical strength and the power of reasoning. Dissimulation is thus inborn in her and consequently to be found in the stupid woman almost as often as in the clever one. To make use of it at every opportunity is as natural to her as it is for an animal to employ its means of defence whenever it is attacked, and when she does so she feels that to some extent she is only exercising her rights. A completely truthful woman who does not practice dissimulation is perhaps an impossibility, which is why women see through the dissimulation of others so easily it is inadvisable to attempt it with them. – But this fundamental defect which I have said they possess, together with all that is associated with it, gives rise to falsity, unfaithfulness, treachery, ingratitude, etc. Women are guilty of perjury far more often than men. It is questionable whether they ought to be allowed to take an oath at all.
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https://heretical.com/miscella/onwomen.html

Uncle Joe

(61,736 posts)
15. Do you believe a person can be right about one thing and wrong on another?
Fri May 2, 2025, 05:24 PM
May 2

I don't agree with his reason toward women.

littlemissmartypants

(27,743 posts)
22. I believe that one man can be deeply disturbing and disturbed. ...
Fri May 2, 2025, 05:41 PM
May 2

I also see that there's no "right about one/wrong on another" disclaimer on this OP. So, that's a bandaid question and it's leaky.

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Cherokee100

(394 posts)
17. Religion?
Fri May 2, 2025, 05:26 PM
May 2

'Religion is the opiate of the masses', per Karl Marx. Along with the term 'Critical Thinking' in my opinion, reinforces the above. Think for yourself.

electric_blue68

(21,475 posts)
34. I'm considered quite high IQ . I enjoy having a social life. First had to do w testing as a kid to see if different....
Fri May 2, 2025, 10:59 PM
May 2

new different oxygen levels in the incubators [7 wks premature] to prevent blindness (like how it affected Stevie Wonder) might have affected IQ.

Then later on as a ?teen tested by a psychological student neighbor reinforced this.

Anyway, I enjoy chatting with people. I have a lot of interests so I can find something to talk about.
Otoh, I've been shy at parties at times bc for a lot of my life I've felt not lived up to my hopes, dreams, life expectations, and goals so I've felt "less than".

Always had a bunch of friends to talk with.

I do enjoy my alone time for reading, making art, and doing crafts all my life.

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