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Trump defends Qatari jet "contribution"
From CNN's Michael Williams
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/us-china-tariffs-trade-talks-trump-05-12-25#cmal73pwj00053b5zdmjgwg0n
CNN reported Sunday that the Boeing 747-8 jet would be retrofitted to be used as Air Force One. The plan raised substantial ethical and legal questions about foreign influence over the US government because of the planes massive value. Acceptance of the plane would also raise significant security concerns.
I think its a great gesture from Qatar. I appreciate it very much. I would never be one to turn down that kind of an offer. I mean, I could be a stupid person say, No, we dont want a free, very expensive airplane. But it was, I thought it was a great gesture.
Trump said the plane will go directly to his presidential library after he leaves office.
I wouldnt be using it, he added.
Lovie777
(21,574 posts)Paladin
(32,208 posts)No---he'd be fucking SELLING IT and pocketing the money. Even by the outlandish standards put in place by trump, this is ridiculous.
Aristus
(71,536 posts)Keep on desk in Oval Office. Ven saying somethink important to naseeonale security, speak loudly eeto lamp, da?"
boonecreek
(1,364 posts)the Qataris would expect nothing in return.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,275 posts)Plane has been available on an unprotected runway for a long time for various groups to plant spyware and tracking devices. This plane may have to stripped down to the frame to check for extra hardware/spyware. It will NOT be cheap to get this plane to be ready to be Air Force One.
Link to tweet
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/turning-qatari-747-air-force-one-cost-1-billion-take-years-experts-say-rcna206582
They said that accepting the 13-year-old jet would likely cost U.S. taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars over time, noting that refurbishing the commercial plane would exceed its current value of $400 million. The project might also not be completed by the end of Trumps term in 2029, at which time the plane is expected to be handed over to Trumps presidential library foundation.
Richard Aboulafia, an analyst and consultant on commercial and military aviation, said he thought turning the Qatari jetliner into Air Force One would cost billions and take years.
Youre taking a 747, disassembling it, reassembling it, and then jacking it up to a very high level, said Aboulafia, a managing director at AeroDynamic Advisory, a consulting firm......
The Qatari jumbo jet would have to be effectively dismantled, part by part, to ensure there were no listening devices, spyware or other security vulnerabilities that could allow foreign powers to eavesdrop on the presidents plane.
It would then have to be fitted with costly, sophisticated systems for secure government communications, midair refueling, missile defense, countering electronic jamming and protecting against electro-magnetic pulse attack. There would likely need to be quarters added for White House medical staff and the Secret Service.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,275 posts)This plane has been on the market for five years and there are no buyers. This plane uses a ton of fuel and can only land on special runways. trump is bailing out a member of the royal family by taking a plane that is not marketable.
"Why The Qataris Are Happy To Dump Their 747 On Trump"
— Zach Everson (@zacheverson.com) 2025-05-15T17:36:13.733Z
"There may be a simpler rationale: they just donât want it anymore."
@jeremybogaisky.bsky.social for @forbes.com
"There may be a simpler rationale: they just dont want it anymore."
Link to tweet
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremybogaisky/2025/05/14/qatar-747-trump
The royals have failed to sell the plane, which was put on the market in 2020, according to an archived listing. Giving it away could save Qatars rulers a big chunk of change on maintenance and storage costs, aviation experts told Forbes. Making Trump happy would be an added bonus.
Qatar, which has given away another blinged-out 747 and may have mothballed two more, epitomizes the fading demand for these huge, fuel-guzzling, highly personalized airplanes. There arent many who want to buy them, and many of the governments and royal families who own them have been trying to ditch them over the past decade.
Qatar, like many modern states, is shifting toward leaner, more versatile aircraft, which offer better economics and more discreet presence for official travel, Linus Bauer, managing director of the Dubai-based aviation consulting firm BAA & Partners, told Forbes. Giving the plane to Trump would be a creative disposal strategy that marks a farewell to a bygone model of geopolitical theater in the skies......
Beyond poor fuel efficiency, large ostentatious planes are a security risk, notes Richard Aboulafia, an aerospace consultant with Aerodynamic Advisory. These things are big targets. And bigger planes can only land on longer runways, limiting their usage. There are a lot more airports you can get into if you have a narrowbody, and many more still if you have a traditional business jet, he said......
Giving the 747-8 to the U.S. would also allow the Qataris to avoid maintenance costs that are only getting higher with the 747 fleet shrinking worldwide and fewer mechanics available who know how to work on them, said John Goglia, a former airline mechanic and member of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board. The 2020 sales brochure noted that the plane was due for a landing gear overhaul in 2024 and a 12-year check in 2027. A check in which the airplane and engines are taken apart, typically carried out every six to 12 years, can take months to complete and cost millions of dollars. The numbers are staggering, said Goglia.
LetMyPeopleVote
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