Is anyone here familiar with "quantum consciousness"?

[kentuck]

I have seen a few videos on YouTube about it and it looks very interesting.

Basically, there is no reality.

We are all connected to a conscious universe. We do not perceive "reality" as an individual but as one consciousness.

With new experiments and discoveries, we can change the "reality" of the universe with our minds and our thoughts.

Pretty deep.

[FalloutShelter]

1. Old hippies used to call it cosmic consciousness.

The collective mind. TM types used to discuss this all the time.

[BoRaGard]

2. I wanna quanna

[C_U_L8R]

3. Imagine a world with no Trumps

It's easy if you try.

[Xavier Breath]

4. Whatever we're in, it sucks.

I knew I shouldn't have taken the red pill

[orangecrush]

28. I took both pills

That explains a lot

[leftyladyfrommo]

29. We are stuck in a bardo where everything

is in a state of constant change.

[multigraincracker]

5. Lately I've been interested in the concept of

Infinite time and space. Everything has, is and will happen infinitely over both time and space.

[Wounded Bear]

6. Been re-watching Matrix movies lately?

[kentuck]

9. No, but I am familiar with them.

But these are all new discoveries, many of them discovered with the help of the James Webb Telescope.

It is all new information that is coming out and many scientists are very scared with the new knowledge.

[Irish_Dem]

7. Carl Jung, renowned psychologist, believed in the collective unconscious.

From Google AI:

Carl Jung's theory of the collective unconscious posits that a portion of the unconscious mind is shared by all humans, representing a repository of inherited, universal psychological structures called archetypes. These archetypes, like the hero, mother, and shadow, are not individual memories, but rather symbolic representations of fundamental human experiences and instincts that shape our thoughts, behaviors, and perceptions.

Jung considered the collective unconscious to underpin and surround the unconscious mind, distinguishing it from the personal unconscious of Freudian psychoanalysis. He believed that the concept of the collective unconscious helps to explain why similar themes occur in mythologies around the world.

Jung defined the collective unconscious as a species-typical repository of ancestral history and memory accumulated over evolutionary time. Comprising the collective unconscious are an array of archetypes— categories of objects, people, and situations that have existed across evolutionary time.

[kentuck]

10. When we are asleep, we are in a state of unconsciousness....

But, maybe that is why the Earth goes around?

While half of the world is awake, the other half is asleep?

[Irish_Dem]

11. What might be happening in this process?

Half the world awake, half asleep?

Transfer of collective thought?

We often hear about people realizing something important, making decisions, or coming
up with unique ideas after a good nights sleep.

Jung would say it is the collective unconscious.
Freud would say it is just a person's subconscious at work.

[kentuck]

14. There is probably some sort of balance...

...if we buy into a universal consciousness theory? But, each of us would have the power of the universe within our conscious minds. Reality is created by the universal mind. They had one experiment with the new Google AI computer where they unhooked it totally from all power sources and it was able to retrieve information, that was not programmed, unlike anything they had ever seen done before.

[highplainsdem]

18. Source, please, for what you said here:

They had one experiment with the new Google AI computer where they unhooked it totally from all power sources and it was able to retrieve information, that was not programmed, unlike anything they had ever seen done before.

I haven't heard of anything remotely like that.

[hatrack]

19. What?

Unlikely. Computers run on electricity, not the cosmic consciousness.

[Mossfern]

23. Yup

The concept was the theme of my Masters Thesis in 1972.
Since then I've been made aware of morphic fields.

[Irish_Dem]

32. Wow, that is so neat.

Back when it was OK to be a Jungian.
Behavioralists then came into fashion in academia.
Jung and Freud thrown to the wayside.

What is a morphic field?

[Mossfern]

33. Morphic Fields

Sheldrake begins his book with a provocative hypothesis: Why are we so sure about the existence of the so-called laws of nature, especially in their current incarnation as immutable and eternal? Given that most scientists share a materialist worldview, belief in something so intangible, eternal, and almost deified seems like a contradiction, or a paradox. At the very least, it leaves an enormous opening for questions about cosmology that most scientists forcefully ignore, beyond a general belief in the Big Bang Theory. As an alternative, Sheldrake suggests that perhaps these laws of nature are simply habits of nature that have developed gradually over long periods of time so as to seem like immutable laws. Perhaps they were not inherent in the cosmic period that preceded the Big Bang but emerged out of that evolutionary process over billions of years. If the universe was born in a primordial explosion fourteen billion years ago, could the “laws of the universe” also have evolved over time? After all, as Sheldrake points out, this idea of natural laws arose from the minds of men obsessed with the laws of man.

Although many people no longer believe in [. . .] God, his changeless laws have survived him to this day. But when we pause to consider the nature of these laws, they rapidly become mysterious. They govern matter and motion, but they are not themselves material nor do they move. They cannot be seen or weighed or touched; they lie beyond the realm of sense experience. They are potentially present everywhere and always. They have no physical source or origin. Indeed, even in the absence of God, they still share many of his traditional attributes. They are omnipresent, immutable, universal, and self-subsistent. Nothing can be hidden from them, nor lie beyond their power. (p. 18)

This idea that the entire universe is a nested, self-organizing system powered by habit rather than “laws” is our entry point into the broader theory of morphic fields, or what Sheldrake calls “formative causation.” This memory that nature appears to exhibit at both the micro and macro levels might be a feature of manifest reality as much as gravitational or electromagnetic fields. And, as we will see, ancient yogis shared this view that reality is a series of nested, self-organizing systems with infinite intelligence embedded at every layer.

https://medium.com/the-wisdom-revolution/a-brief-introduction-to-morphic-fields-88fe09d2661d

There is much more on the website

[Irish_Dem]

34. Many thanks.

Yes our understanding of the universe and that which we can not see is quite primitive.

I do think that morphic fields are real.

After 40 years of being a therapist I realized that there is a lot more going on in terms of reality
than we know. I saw and heard too many things that cannot be explained by current laws of nature.

[Mossfern]

35. Yes

My new therapist's eyes lit up when I started talking about the collective unconscious. My former therapist would disregard this notion - couldn't relate. I'm glad I switched to one who seems to operate on a similar wavelength as I do. It's pretty heady stuff and I tread cautiously because I tend to disassociate...
No, it's not the focus of our sessions. lol

My feeling is that there are many in your field who are studying, or have explored Jung in more depth.

[anciano]

8. Sounds interesting....

IMO, however, the idea of universal oneness and a collective subconscious is not mutually exclusive of having individual experiences that we perceive as reality.

[W_HAMILTON]

12. Yes, I've been looking into it more myself.

I don't buy into religion, but it does seem like there is something ... more. I don't know what that is, but I've been watching/reading about quantum immortality and the like and it seems as good an explanation as I've heard so far.

It's a pretty fascinating subject.

[prodigitalson]

38. That feeling that someone or somwthing is there

is the result of evolution favoring false positives over false negatives when it comes to detecting agency behind events. As a result we tend to assume agency (someone or something did it as opposed to it just happened) when there is none.

Imagine an Australopithecus hears a rustle in the bushes. It might just be the wind—but if it assumes it's a predator and runs, it survives. If it ignores it and it's a lion, it dies. So over time, the ones that always assumed someone or something was there survived more. That same instinct to see hidden agents eventually evolved into imagining spirits, gods, or other unseen beings behind natural events.

[W_HAMILTON]

40. It's not so much that, but increasing occurrences of "the Mandela effect..."

...along with some other instances of events I experienced directly that I couldn't otherwise explain.

Regarding "the Mandela effect," sure, I could even understand if you chalked it up to my brain misremembering things, even when I would swear up and down that isn't the case, but how is it that so many of us are not only misremembering the same things, but misremembering them in the exact same way?

Like the Fruit of the Loom cornucopia that apparently never existed. I vividly remember the logo having a cornucopia in it. So do many others. But, sure, chalk it up to our brains misremembering things -- but why are we all misremembering that it was a cornucopia? Why not just a regular basket? Or fruit trees? Why do so many of us misremember this relatively unusual item being a part of the logo? I don't know that I've ever even seen a cornucopia in real life, and the only time I've seen it otherwise is usually around Thanksgiving...

[dweller]

13. . . .

✌🏻

[kentuck]

15. That seems to define what is happening...

...but according to one source that I saw, even Einstein had pooh-poohed the whole idea. But the difference now, is that they are collecting evidence.

[eppur_se_muova]

16. Yes, I am. No, I'm not. Simultaneously. nt

[tinrobot]

17. So the Orange Idiot's consciousness is also mine?

[Chemical Bill]

20. I don't believe it...

But I don't believe anything. I recognize that there is a shared version of reality, but I also recognize that individuals can accept more or less of the shared reality based on our individual consciousness. Many cultures use drugs to help people change their perception of reality, as well as meditation and physical movements.

So sure, get down with the dance that you want to dance.

[Beringia]

21. Vietnamese buddhist, Thich Nhat Hanh on collective consciousness called Manas

Part II

Just as the moon’s gravitational pull on the Earth causes the tides, the grip of manas on the store consciousness is the energy that brings about the maniíestation of seeds as mental formations in our mind consciousness. Our habit energies, delusions, and craving come together and create a tremendous source of energy that conditions our actions, speech, and thinking. This energy is called manas. The function of manas is grasping.

https://archive.org/stream/ThichNhatHanhTheArtOfPower58pp/Thich%20Nhat%20Hanh%20%26%20Rachel%20Neumann%20-%20Understanding%20Our%20Mind_djvu.txt

[MineralMan]

22. There is a reality. We cannot alter it as individuals.

Our perception of it, however, can be altered. However, our understanding of reality will always be inaccurate, due to our weak perceptions.

[Mossfern]

24. Yeah, but

I still have to clean the litter box and make dinner....

[WhiteTara]

26. before enlightenment, carrying water, chopping wood

after enlightenment, carrying water, chopping wood.

[Mossfern]

27. Exactly

[Rebl2]

25. My husband

has talked about that before, but it was years ago.

[orangecrush]

30. It's a helluva thing...

[leftyladyfrommo]

31. The Buddhists were on to this 2500 years ago.

The early writers called it the Dark Ignigma and it is a never ending energy source.
Our consciousness is able to convert that energy into solid form.

Our reality is an illusion.

That's the short version. It's complicated and the idea is mind blowing.

[delisen]

37. Yes, I lean toward some theories concerning this and away from others

I lean toward those in physics who think that consciousness is fundamental and lean away from those who think consciousness is emergent. So I

If you were to start a discussion group, count me in.

[ananda]

39. I really like the books on the idea of the universe as a hologram...

based on the works of quantum physicists.

Michael Talbot's book *The Holographic Universe*
lays it all out extremely well.

David Peat's book *Blackfoot Physics* is based on
the work of David Bohm and deep research into
Native American beliefs and practices which fit
well into this idea.