Children are starving in Gaza.

[kentuck]

Everyone is starving. No food is permitted into the area, even though food trucks are just a few miles away.

Since Trump is in the area, why doesn't he work to get food to these starving children? Is he too busy "making deals"?

People are standing by and watching children starve. How much more inhumane can people be?

A young Doctor, who was with Doctors Without Borders, reported this on Morning Joe this morning.

It is too sad for words.

[k_buddy762]

1. My partner and I buy gift cards

for food at the beginning of every month, whatever we can afford, and hand them out to the homeless folks we see at stop lights. They're all starving too.

[EdmondDantes_]

35. I didn't read that as them justifying starvation anywhere

Seems to me like they were saying that they are helping to address people not having food where/how they can.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

58. All lives matter, eh?

Givemeafuckingbreak

[EdmondDantes_]

63. That's not what I said. But whatever makes you feel better

Strange that people insist on misinterpreting simple sentences to fit their own agenda.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

64. Yeah, it happens quite often here.

This sure ain't the DU I remember from the days of it's inception unfortunately.

[Dave Bowman]

59. Yeah, right.

Welcome to DU, I guess.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

62. What's with the snark?

Is there something fishy about the post?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

61. Good for you,

Thank you for thinking of and helping the homeless here in the US.

[Johnny2X2X]

2. "Since Trump is in the area, why doesn't he work to get food to these starving children? "

Because this was his plan. When the US re-elected Trump, there was no one left to reign in BiBi. This is the plan, every man woman, and child living in Gaza will be expelled or exterminated. Gaza will be wiped off the map and the real estate developers will carve it up amongst themselves.

[Irish_Dem]

3. Trump is clearing the land for his luxury resort.

The children are being sent to brand new beautiful homes in the sky.

[Johnny2X2X]

4. During the campaign

There was a lot of discussion on DU about Gaza. And there was a lot of discussions I participated on other websites about Gaza. I'm not sure if it was here or somewhere else, but I flat out told some Gaza supporters that a vote for Trump is a vote for the complete and total anhilation of Gaza. Gaza will no longer exist soon, and I don't think there is anything that can stop that now. It's incredibly sad.

Here in MI, the flip in Muslim votes alone from 2020 to 2024 cost Harris the state. Those people literally voted to end the existence of Gaza and they didn't know it. They were duped.

[Irish_Dem]

7. Yes the GAZA protestors were useful PutinGOP tools.

They voted for the complete annihilation of their people.

They were part of the plan to bring down Biden and the Dems.

I also said this right after the HAMAS attack.
It had Putin's fingerprints all over it.
I warned people not to take the bait.

[Big Blue Marble]

17. This crisis is far more than politics in the United States

This is a humanitarian crisis of the gravest kind. The only thing that we should be discussing is the hundreds of thousands of children are dying of forced starvation by the hands of what is supposedly a democratic society in a modern world and no one no one is doing anything about it. Not Europe, not the United States not Israel, not the Arab nations. And in all of my life, my long life I never dreamed that the modern world the western liberal world of the 21st century with allow this travesty. That is what we all should be talking about and demand that it stop now.

It. It’s happening there it can happen anywhere.

[Johnny2X2X]

22. Unfortunately, I am not surprised at all

There have been wars and starvation that the Western world has ignored. Gazans aren't the only ones suffering this fate today.

Biden was the only voice that mattered towards helping Gaza and his is gone. Harris would have continued that voice. Instead, we have Trump who wants to make money off this genocide.

FOr all the heat Biden got, he was the only one holding Netanyahu back from what is happening now.

To the people still in Gaza, they must leave or they will die. It's awful, but that's the reality.

[Big Blue Marble]

25. Regretfully, Biden allowed the starvation

during his presidency as well. For a year and a half the people of Gaza were deprived of the basics of life and children were staving.Nothing has changed, except we have reached the intended culmination of the crisis. Neither Trump nor Biden are responsible for this humanitarian disaster even as they allowed to unfold. It is the right wing Israeli government who is responsible.

[Johnny2X2X]

28. Biden fought tirelessly to prevent it

Allowed is a strong word. Did you allow it? Of course not, neither did I, we were powerless to stop it. Biden was powerless to stop it short of bombing Israel IMO. He threatned to withhold arms that he really couldn't withhold because Congress allocates that stuff. He used his bully pulpit to fight for the people there.

He did more to help than anyone on the planet, literally. So to say he "allowed" it, I take offense to.

People kept acting like "Biden as arming" Israel, he wasn't and he didn't, a President doesn't have that power, that power is Congress's and they voted to arm Israel. The same concept was at play when Trump illegally withheld Ukraine arms that Congress had allocated to them, it's part of what got Trump impeached the first time.

Are you saying that you expected Joe Biden to break the law?

[mcar]

33. Thank you. Nt

[AloeVera]

37. Not me.

Only to uphold it.

There is a law that bans arms sales to countries that commit war crimes and crimes against humanity like using starvation of civilians as a tool of war.

Biden was surrounded by staunch pro-Israel people who could not bring themselves to see the ugly truth about Israel's actions and motives and advised the President accordingly.

[rubbersole]

23. Cutting SNAP assistance is taking place today in congress.

[ShadesOfBlue]

14. While I disagreed with....

Muslims who decided to vote for Trump, I could understood them being angry enough to become delusional that Trump would be a better option than Biden. Especially if they were of Palestinian origin and had family members who were in immediate danger in Palestine or were recently killed in Palestine. I recognized they were in such an emotional state of distress they probably could not be counted on. So my hope was that the rest of us Democrats and Independents who were not directly tied to that conflict would compensate by stepping up our game and participating in larger numbers on Election Day. We failed to do so.

It’s beyond insufferable to see how liberals and progressives on this site and progressive commentators like Stephanie Miller and Hal Sparks lack such compassion when they keep spitefully tossing that Genocide Joe talk back in the faces of those who didn’t vote for Biden. Have some darn compassion. Many of those that made their error of voting for Trump or not voting at all did so out of grief over losing family members. Those who couldn’t relate to that should have just shut up, because those particular people certainly were not as vocal when they cosplayed being liberals while Israel kept up its deadly onslaught of children via American tax dollars. It is telling that many have more sympathy for white American voters who keep voting against their best interests by picking Trump, than they do for Arabic/Muslim Americans who just got caught up in the emotional baggage that resulted from the onslaught of their own family.

[ShadesOfBlue]

19. Also....

I save my contempt more for people who made a dumb voting decision over egg prices. Pure selfishness with a lack of a grasp of the big picture. Were the Russians influencing those fools too?

[AloeVera]

20. Thank you.

Thank you for saying what must be said.

[PufPuf23]

50. Genocide Biden was an ugly slur that mischaracterized POTUS Biden.

POTUS Biden was for a Gaza ceasefire and a two-state solution.

POTUS Biden did not have the full support of the Democratic Party nor the USA and was thwarted.

The hateful anti-Israel protecters harmed Gaza and POTUS Biden but were not alone.

[electric_blue68]

92. I sort of get that, but shouldn't some people have understand the kind of "president " he was from his first term....

Shouldn't they have known better?
At least enough of them to have made a difference this time around?

I place much more blame on the Non-voters!!!

[LisaM]

21. They should have known it.

Of all the things Biden got blamed for that weren't his fault, the war in Gaza was right up there. I think people now understand the line he was straddling, trying to balance a response to the terror attack with Netanyahu's bullheaded decisions and Hamas' recalcitrance.

The attacks on Biden over Gaza were extremely unwarranted. I said so at the time and I stand by that.

[bronxiteforever]

27. People that voted for Trump destroyed USAID

No sympathy for those who voted to destroy my Country either.

[AloeVera]

32. Where do you think he got the idea from, to exterminate Gaza?

That was Netanyahu's plan, from the evening of Oct. 7th. Even as it was increasingly obvious as the horiific months passed, no one reigned him in. Gaza was already destroyed. That is the tragedy and the travesty.

[Autumn]

5. As far as that ass and most other people in the US in power are concerned they

don't give a damn.

[malaise]

6. More here

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/05/1163166


Poor not chosen kids. They don’t count.

[IronLionZion]

8. By design

they want the people in Gaza to be gone one way or another.

[malaise]

9. THIS

Rec

[Bettie]

48. I suspect that they would prefer that they be dead

because dead people can't speak of what happened or ask to return to their homes. They are just gone and will be forgotten as their lives are paved over to make a big resort playground for the ultra wealthy.

[twodogsbarking]

11. I support people but not military bullies.

[spanone]

12. ...and our 'president' couldn't care less.

[milestogo]

13. Adults are starving in Gaza too.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016404675

[Ping Tung]

15. The kids will have to get by with just 2 dolls from now on. Food, shelter, and medical care are unneeded luxuries.

for Palestinian terrorist children.

“What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or in the holy name of liberty or democracy?” Gandhi

[artemisia1]

16. Sad and also sad that DU still has apologists for Israeli behavior in Gaza. /nt

[BuddhaGirl]

18. It is absolutely sickening, isn't it?

Genocide is happening there before our eyes

[brush]

29. Yes, but curiously, they seem to stay away form the Iraelis starvig the Gazans posts...

as there's no way to justify starving people. They show up and defend the bombing atrocities by saying they're trying to bomb Hamas.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

60. People will remember who the "good Germans were"

And the Kapos.

[Bev54]

24. He is too busy stuffing his face with Big Macs

From his new mobile Mickey Dee truck

[Deep State Witch]

26. News Flash

Trump doesn't give a shit about the people in Gaza. They're just in the way of the Mar-a-lago on the Med.

[AloeVera]

30. So malnourished the children are losing their eyesight.

Suffering a host of other ailments like rickets and skin diseases.

The prolonged lack of proper nutrition over most of a year and a half will harm their brain development. A whole generation of stunted children. What else is this but the destruction of a people, the very definition of genocide?

They are begging us now.

“Even if you cannot stop the massacre, do not be complicit in the silence. Our message to the world: we are not asking for luxury. We are begging for survival.

We need the world to feel us, to hear the cry of a hungry child, and to see the tears of a grieving mother. We need life.”

Israel continues to deny their lived reality and wants us to disbelieve our eyes. Its far-right ministers openly brag that in a few months Gaza will be "utterly destroyed" and “The Gazan citizens will be concentrated in the south. They will be totally despairing, understanding that there is no hope and nothing to look for in Gaza, and will be looking for relocation to begin a new life in other places.”[Smotrich]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/gaza-hunger-israel-idf-netanyahu-b2745801.html

Israel's supporters are silent or engaged in denial. What will it take for them to say enough? Was "Never Again" not meant for all of humanity?

[Mosby]

31. Hamas stole most of the aid and then resell it.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[AloeVera]

34. Are you fucking kidding me? N/T.

[Mosby]

36. Do you or anyone have anything besides anecdotal evidence for this starvation claim?

This isn't the first time these spurious claims have been made.

[SocialDemocrat61]

38. Ok

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/13/world/middleeast/gaza-famine-starvation-israel.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz63jnx52l0o
https://www.who.int/news/item/12-05-2025-people-in-gaza-starving--sick-and-dying-as-aid-blockade-continues

[Mountainguy]

39. I watched video of a few thousand people

Shouting at hostages being transfered. None of them looked to be starving to me.

[AloeVera]

41. That was three and a half months ago.

Israel cut off food and all aid nearly three months ago.

And if starvation doesn't phase you, perhaps the thought of babies and kids horribly wounded by airstrikes dying slowly for lack of working hospitals and medicines? Not even painkillers...

I can't imagine any level of hatred that would prevent me from feeling sickened by it all.

[Mountainguy]

45. And I remember articles from 6 months before that

Claiming gazans were starving and that it was the worst food insecurity ever.

Reports on Gaza rely on data from Hamas, and Hamas lies.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

46. It always amazes me that there are those that take the word of HAMAs as the gospel,

even here on DU.

[Mountainguy]

47. Especially here on DU

The favored type of religion fundamentalists I guess.

[PufPuf23]

54. That is a slur and untrue. nt

[MarineCombatEngineer]

56. If you think so, then push that button that says alert,

in the meantime, I stand by my post.

[Eko]

82. Cmon now, Israel says itself it stopped all aid going in 3 months ago.

What do you think is happening?

[muriel_volestrangler]

52. No, this is data collected by international experts on famine, including UN bodies

From 28 April to 6 May 2025, around 50 experts from 17 organisations conducted
the joint IPC Acute Food Insecurity and Acute Malnutrition analysis for the Gaza
Strip. This exercise was conducted remotely, fully adhering to the standard IPC
protocols. It drew on data made available to the analysis team from multiple
sources and includes information available until 6 May 2025.

According to IPC protocols, the evidence level for each of the five units of
analysis (Governorates) was rated as “Medium” (level 2), with the exception
of the Acute Malnutrition analysis for Rafah Governorate, which relied on IPC
special protocols for areas with limited or no humanitarian access. Food security
outcomes were assessed using Computer Assisted Telephone Interviews (CATI)
from two sources. Nutrition data included global acute malnutrition based
on mid-upper arm circumference (MUAC) from comprehensive screenings
conducted in the field. Food security and nutrition experts verified the quality
of the food security and MUAC data, discarding any data that did not meet IPC
standards. The analysis included both residents and internally displaced persons
(IDPs) within and outside camps.

https://www.ipcinfo.org/fileadmin/user_upload/ipcinfo/docs/IPC_Gaza_Strip_Acute_Food_Insecurity_Malnutrition_Apr_Sept2025_Special_Snapshot.pdf

At the global level, the IPC partnership includes 19 organizations and intergovernmental institutions: Action Against Hunger, CARE International, Comité Permanent Inter-États de Lutte Contre la Sécheresse au Sahel (CILSS), the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO), the Famine Early Warning Systems Network (FEWS NET), the Global Food Security Cluster, the Global Nutrition Cluster, the International Food Policy Research Institute (IFPRI), the Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD), the Joint Research Centre (JRC) of the European Commission, Oxford Committee for Famine Relief (Oxfam), the Southern African Development Community (SADC), Save the Children, the Sistema de la Integración Centroamericana (SICA), the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP), the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF), the World Bank, the World Food Programme (WFP) and the World Health Organization (WHO).

https://www.ipcinfo.org/ipcinfo-website/ipc-overview-and-classification-system/en/

[AloeVera]

69. And the IPC determined that 244K people are at Levet 5.

Catastrophe/famine. As of May 10th.

Thanks for the info. It won't make any difference to the "it comes from Hamas" "Hamas lies" crowd. It's much easier, simpler to believe that than to face the ugly truth of what Israel has become. That it is capable of starving children to get what it wants.

[Mountainguy]

74. Like i said

This exercise was conducted remotely, fully adhering to the standard IPC
protocols. It drew on data made available to the analysis team...

[Beastly Boy]

49. How much weight do you think these starving children lost in the past three and a half months?

https://wol.com/militants-killing-would-be-blow-to-hamas-but-long-term-impact-is-unclear/

[AloeVera]

75. Still can't or won't distinguish between Hamas militants and civilians - or starving kids, for that matter.

Neither can Israel.

Fifty-seven children dead from starvation so far and you're still going on about Hamas.


Might be time to abandon the sinking ship. Israel's pariah state status is firmly cemented. Its defenders are shrinking, with their credibility in tatters.

I always had faith that people would eventually see through Israel's lies and propaganda.

[Beastly Boy]

78. Sure I can. I can also tell what their hefty weight has to do with the starving children.

Something you apparently can't do.

[AloeVera]

80. They ate for a million kids?

Stole food from 2 million mouths?

Sigh.

[Beastly Boy]

81. Yes, they also hoarded food and taxed it to, literally, death.

For a million kids. Those missiles and tunnels are pretty expensive, you know. Not to mention the lifestyles of their leaders in Doha.

[AloeVera]

83. There has been no food, medicine, or fuel going in for nearly 3 months.

Israel is starving Gaza and Gaza's children. On purpose.

The suffering there is beyond comprehension.

It makes me sick that anyone could make excuses for it. Ridiculous and absurd ones to boot.

I'm finished with you.

[Beastly Boy]

87. Spare me. You are impervious to reality. Hamas has controlled the food and energy markets in Gaza since at least

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the beginning of the war.

Not for three months. But if anything doesn't involve blaming Israel, you close your eyes and shut your ears to it. And, apparently, it makes you sick too.

Well, starving children in Gaza will certainly appreciate such intellectually honest stance.

[electric_blue68]

95. You can do more than one thing at a time...why Not

continue to condemn Hamas since they still want to murder, and destabilize, or destroy Jews, and Israel, as well as condemn Netanyahoo for this over extended indiscriminate killing war! Starving children and adults! Massive bombing when they could at times send more dedicated IDF, special ops to take out some of Hamas's control centers. Yes, they might lose some more soldiers (not good), but if the bombing is that indiscriminate that's not good either.
Away from the Gaza war, in the West Bank Jewish settlers taking away and messing with Palestinian homes, and land, tree groves rightfully theirs! Not good!
But Iarael also has to defend itself against too many Arab Nations their whole existence!. Wth! Terrible!

Can there be some empathy when things are bad on either side?

[AloeVera]

40. Only the UN, NGOs, Western doctors that have returned from Gaza, some Western media..

I could send you a hundred links but I figure if you really wanted to know you would by now.

On the other hand, your only source is "Imshin" on X. Who has had an agenda for years, trying to prove there is a wealthy class in Gaza. As if the existence of the 1% - the scourge of most every society- could be used to deny the suffering of the other 99%.

Perhaps you could expand your horizons to include some international NGOs, the WFP, doctors that have returned from Gaza etc. - if real Palestinian voices are a bridge too far for you.

[uponit7771]

70. Not an excuse any longer and no one believes BB or his homies. If an NGO shows Hamas caused the ...

... famine I'll believe them but not anyone connected to BBs gov

[AloeVera]

72. Wise to do so.

In fact, aid agencies say they have stringent mechanisms in place to prevent what they term "leakage" and that Hamas steals little, IF ANY, aid.

It's all bullshit by Israel, like the "human shields" bullshit used to rationalize the indiscriminate bombing of civilians.

This one is used to rationalize starving people so they will "choose" to leave their homeland and have the settlers take their land. Again.

[uponit7771]

73. BB is a monster

[MorbidButterflyTat]

84. What

are these TikTok/X rando posts supposed to prove?

[Mosby]

86. Nothing.

But it suggests that the claims of starvation could be a bit inaccurate.

[EX500rider]

42. Wonder why no one cares about food crisis in other countries...

Sudan is experiencing a severe humanitarian crisis with widespread starvation and acute malnutrition, particularly among children, due to conflict and displacement. Over half of Sudan's population is facing acute food insecurity, with many in a state of famine or emergency. The conflict has led to mass displacement, disrupted livelihoods, and limited access to food and healthcare.

About half of Sudan's population (24.6 million people) is experiencing acute food insecurity, with 638,000 facing catastrophic hunger (famine).

[MarineCombatEngineer]

43. I think I can answer that one,

because it's...................ISRAEL!!!!

[muriel_volestrangler]

44. The USA and other western countries are not arming either the Sudan government or the RSF

The ICC does have warrants out for past actions in Sudan: https://www.icc-cpi.int/darfur

The Biden administration said RSF is committing genocide in Sudan - and Trump's lot have affirmed that: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/may/05/dossier-of-alleged-sudan-war-crimes-rsf-committed-handed-to-metropolitan-police , with sanctions against members of the government as well. So people are doing more about Sudan than about Gaza.

[Beastly Boy]

51. That's a ridiculous argument.

If it were Qatar that funded Israel, would you be posting about hungry children in Sudan?

Something tells me you wouldn't.

[muriel_volestrangler]

53. I'm not Qatari, so your post looks like a red herring (nt)

[Beastly Boy]

55. I am asking you as a US citizen.

If it were anyone other than the US, would your objections disappear?

It is the likelihood of red herring in your post that I am addressing.

[muriel_volestrangler]

57. I'm not a US citizen for that matter - I'm British, though this is of course an American website

Yes, I do post about Sudan, and famine there: https://www.democraticunderground.com/113347476

But you are claiming to not understand that people show more interest in war crimes by governments allied to their own, than by ones that are getting general condemnation. Which is unbelievably naïve of you.

[Beastly Boy]

89. Ok, so your objection is not on behalf of the US taxpayer. Good, one flagrantly ridiculous objection out of the way.

Absent of this popular absurdity, it took me a while to understand what exactly your talking points are. Based on your latest post, it appears that you are surprised with my presumed naivete regarding people who are more interested in the war crimes of the governments of allies of their home countries than others.

First, this statement is very contestable. I would suggest that people would be as interested, if not more so, in the war crimes of the adversaries of their home countries (for some inexplicable reason, Hamas immediately comes to mind. Maybe because there isn't much interest, and much evident desire to deflect from THEIR war crimes But apparently, I am too naive to bring it up).

Second, to allege naivete, one must produce evidence of it. I am claiming that I fully understand people showing more interest in the above. With that understanding, I am claiming that I also fully understand the nature of the discriminatory false equivalencies that those interested people are throwing around. This is why I brought up Sudan. As evidence of bias on the part of self-appointed humanitarians claiming impartiality, and not for the apples to apples comparison.

Getting back to your previous posts, "The ICC does have warrants out for past actions in Sudan, but not Israel" is inaccurate. Actually there are two warrants out for two Israelis, both being currently contested, versus 6 warrants against 6 Sudanese. Regardless, as I illustrated above, this has no bearing on what I am talking about.

And the accuracy of "So people are doing more about Sudan than about Gaza." is dubious. It depends on who you count as "people" and who you don't, as well as what "doing something" entails. Certainly, there are way more people on social media spreading false information, to put it mildly, about the Israel/Gaza war, including misinformation about ICC in this regard, than there are people doing anything about Sudan.

[muriel_volestrangler]

90. You've added a phrase to my quote, and then claimed it's inaccurate

I did not write the ", but not Israel" part. Yet you added it, inside the quotation marks, and proceeded to say it's inaccurate. Well, yes, you made it up, and it's inaccurate. "People", in the context of the post, is the ICC and the US government. And my point is that, with those people doing more about Sudan, that the public, or the media, is going to spend less time noting "both sides in the Sudan war are bad, but both are sanctioned and called out by our western governments, and international bodies" - which is a message of "our representatives continue to do the basic right thing", and more time noting "western governments, and the US government in particular, may condemn the awful Hamas, but they're far too lenient on the odious Netanyahu, and his deliberate campaign of starvation being waged against the people of Gaza, plus his daily bombing of them".

And I think you are capable of understanding human nature, despite your written claims here that the way an average person thinks is a mystery to you. But your claimed inability gives you an excuse to say this human nature is "discriminatory", as if being fair to Netanyahu and his government would require letting them kill tens of thousands of people.

[Beastly Boy]

93. My apologies for misquoting you.

I did it from memory and obviously I erred. The "not Israel" part should have been outside the quotation marks, and it referred to your leaving the ICC's identical action in Israel's case out of your consideration. And if the "people" in that post referred to ICC among others, as you are clarifying now, that would make your later statement, "So people are doing more about Sudan than about Gaza", partially inaccurate, raising questions about who the "people" you are referring to are.

It is inaccurate to describe courts and administrations as "people", no matter the context. Adding to the confusion is your later statement, "But you are claiming to not understand that people show more interest in war crimes by governments allied to their own", which uses "people" in the correct context, hence the ambiguity of your statement is rather evident.

Now that I know who "those people" are, I can tell you that your allusion to them doing "more" having any chilling effect on the public and the media is absolutely unfounded. There is simply no correlation between the two. Case in point: when the ICC prosecutor announced charges against Netanyahu and Gallant, both the mainstream and the social media exploded with comments, a phenomenon that still reverberates unabated. Not so with Sudan, in whose case the ICC charges barely made a ripple.

So the correlation you are proposing, notwithstanding the leniency of the US government towards Israel, which I happen to agree with, is just not there. And the correlation I am proposing becomes self-evident.

And where did you get the idea that I claimed here, in writing no less, that the way an average person thinks is a mystery to me? My claim is the exact opposite:

I am claiming that I fully understand people showing more interest in the above [ that people would be as interested, if not more so, in the war crimes of the adversaries of their home countries]. With that understanding, I am claiming that I also fully understand the nature of the discriminatory false equivalencies that those interested people are throwing around.

. On the contrary, I proposed that your understanding of what people think leaves a good portion of it out of your consideration, and is therefore less complete than my own.

[AloeVera]

65. Usual distraction from the painful subject at hand.

So what do you think about the plight of the people in Gaza? Any thoughts?

[EX500rider]

66. I think their government started a war they knew they were going to lose....

...and refuses to surrender and is dragging out the war to their citizens detriment. The cheering crowds in Gaza as they bought back bloodied & raped Israeli citizens did not make it look like a unpopular action either. "sow the wind and reap the whirlwind" has come home to roost.

Hamas surrenders and gives up their hostages and the war and the killing ends then, that's how you know it's not attempted "genocide", genocide would be if they did that and Israel continued the airstrikes etc.

US killed over 2.5 million+ Japanese after losing 2,400 dead at Pearl, the US stopped the bombing after Japan surrendered, ie not genocide but warfare.

The European Jews could have surrendered all they wanted to Hitler and the trains to the death camps would have kept on rolling, = genocide

[AloeVera]

68. But what do you think about deliberately blockimg food from starving people?

Do you think it's justified, do you support it? Is that reap the whirlwind too?

[EX500rider]

77. It is a frequent tactic in war to up the pressure to surrender.

I think it is sad that Gaza has a Hamas government that cares so little for it's people that it won't do the right thing and surrender.

I also understand Israel upping the pressure until they do, they do not want another Oct 7th to ever happen again.

The US actually called it's late war plan to starve the Japanese home islands "Operation Starvation"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Starvation

Israel wants control over the aid to keep it out of Hamas hands, the are building new aid distribution centers right now:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce82ene10p0o

Israel is preparing a series of sites in Gaza that could be used as distribution centres for humanitarian aid in a controversial new plan, satellite images show.
The Israeli government suspended food and medicine deliveries into Gaza in March.

Ministers said the move, which has been condemned by UN, European and Middle Eastern leaders, was intended to put pressure on Hamas to release its remaining hostages. Israel also accused Hamas of stealing aid – an allegation the group has denied.

The US confirmed last week that it was preparing a new system for providing aid from a series of hubs inside Gaza, which would be run by private companies and protected by security contractors and Israeli forces.

[AloeVera]

79. Do you understand why the laws of war and Geneva were created?

Because the world realized the barbarity of wars and the price paid by civilians in wars not governed by these laws.

This is why we now have a law that says you can't blockade food to civilians. Doing so is considered a crime against humanity.

I suppose if you don't care about those new-fangled "humanitarian" ideals, you would tout horrific events like Hiroshima, Dresden and the Holomodor - or the Starvation Project- as simply the inevitable result of war or conflict and acceptable.

I vehemently disagree. Those were choices, as is the starvation of Gaza.

As for Israel's new "plan" it is execrable. Designed to feed only 60% of the population, reducing aid centres to 1/100 th of existing levels, having the IDF determine who is eligible based on some (black)list, and setting up de facto checkpoints complete with facial recognition and "welcoming" IDF soldiers...etc etc. ...

It is a plan to ensure Palestinians remain at least on the verge of starvation until they become convinced they must leave to stay alive. Sickening tp me.

[uponit7771]

71. We can walk and chew gum at same time, this issue we have more control over and ditect input

[Delmette2.0]

67. He is always making a deal.

Never an agreement or treaty.
That alone tells us he is getting something in the deal, always transactional.

[Mike Nelson]

76. I am a child...

... we are all children. All the people in Gaza are children. They are blockaded from receiving food. I think people create more friends by feeding people - and more terrorists when bombing them.

[womanofthehills]

85. The images out of Gaza this week are some of the worst

So many dead babies- more than usual. So many pics of babies still barely alive missing limbs. I can’t count how many times they bombed hospitals this week. Can you imagine the horror of a kid being in a hospital because you lost limbs and you are bombed again. Just the pollution of all the bombing, will probably equal huge rates of cancer too.

A little child is asked what they wish for. The child says a fruit. Can you imagine living on bread for months - if that?

[Initech]

88. And motherfucker and his Israli warlord BFF want to turn it into a billionaire beach paradise.

[electric_blue68]

91. Because he doesn't care!

[Jack Valentino]

94. Trump is too busy trying to starve the children of AMERICA while feeding the uber-rich,

(with his "big beautiful bill" ), to worry about starving children in Gaza....


We should fucking eat Trump--- maybe with enough ketchup, we could make it go down....