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WhiskeyGrinder

(26,166 posts)
Wed May 14, 2025, 07:16 AM May 2025

'It behooves us to be prepared': Walz, other MN agencies weigh in on rumors Trump will pardon Derek Chauvin

https://www.startribune.com/it-behooves-us-to-be-prepared-walz-other-mn-agencies-weigh-in-on-rumors-trump-will-pardon-derek-chauvin/601350785

archive link: https://archive.ph/7npfi

State political and law enforcement leaders are preparing for the possibility that President Donald Trump could pardon former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin’s federal conviction in connection with the murder of George Floyd.

Responding to questions from reporters this week, Gov. Tim Walz said the White House has given him no indication that a federal pardon for Chauvin is imminent. Nonetheless, he’s bracing for the possibility, reminding people that even if Chauvin’s sentence is commuted on the federal level, he would be transferred to Minnesota to serve out the remainder of his lengthy state prison term.

“If Donald Trump exercises his constitutional right to do so, whether I agree — and I strongly disagree with him — if he issues that pardon we will simply transfer Derek Chauvin to serve out his 22-and-a-half years in prison in Minnesota," Walz said. “So, no indication whether they’re going to do it or not, but I think it behooves us to be prepared for it. With this presidency, it seems like that might be something they would do.”

Government leaders in Minneapolis acknowledged that rumors of a potential pardon are widespread. With the fifth anniversary of Floyd’s death approaching later this month, they are being cautious in preparing for any civil unrest that could erupt.
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'It behooves us to be prepared': Walz, other MN agencies weigh in on rumors Trump will pardon Derek Chauvin (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder May 2025 OP
If it's cruel and unjust, it's guaranteed to happen with Trump newdeal2 May 2025 #1
There must be some state charges Chauvin was found guilty of. brush May 2025 #3
Yes, he was convicted on both state and federal charges. He's expected to be released from state custody in 2035. WhiskeyGrinder May 2025 #4
Thanks, so why do trump and his handlers think he can spring Chauvin from prison... brush May 2025 #6
I don't think there's been any indication about that's what they think. The point is chaos and red meat for the base. WhiskeyGrinder May 2025 #8
Probably, but Trump's DOJ IS interferring with Tina Peter's 9 year STATE sentence in CO for election interference. hlthe2b May 2025 #12
The riots would be instant k_buddy762 May 2025 #2
By whom? mzmolly May 2025 #9
Sure, send him to state prison. underpants May 2025 #5
K&R UTUSN May 2025 #7
NOTE: Chauvin is currently serving FEDERAL 21 year sentence at Big Spring, TX--a LOW-security prison... hlthe2b May 2025 #10
You can get parole on a state sentence. There is no parole on federal sentences. PSPS May 2025 #17
NO way... Unless they turn over the MN courts, Governor, and state legislature to R's. hlthe2b May 2025 #18
There's no parole or good time credit in Minnesota GregariousGroundhog May 2025 #20
It varies from state to state but parole is never an option on a federal conviction. PSPS May 2025 #21
I also seem to recall serving his time in federal prison to be part of his plea deal GregariousGroundhog May 2025 #19
Of course he will. Leave no criminal in jail. travelingthrulife May 2025 #11
If he does do this, the purpose is to incite violence, imo. Oneironaut May 2025 #13
do it RJ-MacReady May 2025 #14
... Solly Mack May 2025 #15
Keep on rotting Chauvin, you fucking racist POS Blue Owl May 2025 #16
Post removed Post removed May 2025 #22
Sucker troll. So simple minded. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #23
Enjoy your stay MAGAT. BannonsLiver May 2025 #24

newdeal2

(4,700 posts)
1. If it's cruel and unjust, it's guaranteed to happen with Trump
Wed May 14, 2025, 07:20 AM
May 2025

Anything to help his base aka white men who blame everything on woke DEI.

He may also do it to stir a potentially violent protest so he can declare martial law.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
3. There must be some state charges Chauvin was found guilty of.
Wed May 14, 2025, 07:28 AM
May 2025

trump can't pardon those. And Gov. Walz has the right idea, just transfer the killer to a state penn.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,166 posts)
4. Yes, he was convicted on both state and federal charges. He's expected to be released from state custody in 2035.
Wed May 14, 2025, 07:29 AM
May 2025
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
6. Thanks, so why do trump and his handlers think he can spring Chauvin from prison...
Wed May 14, 2025, 07:44 AM
May 2025

on those state charges? I think it's really Steven Miller and others who are coming up with these racist, anti-DEI ideas. IMO trump is not thinking up this stuff. They keep him happy with golf and McDonnell's meals so that he signs whatever EO or pardon they put in front of him as he's in steep, mental decline.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,166 posts)
8. I don't think there's been any indication about that's what they think. The point is chaos and red meat for the base.
Wed May 14, 2025, 07:48 AM
May 2025

hlthe2b

(112,625 posts)
12. Probably, but Trump's DOJ IS interferring with Tina Peter's 9 year STATE sentence in CO for election interference.
Wed May 14, 2025, 08:38 AM
May 2025

The local prosecutor was a Republican, and he's standing firm, as is our State AG, but they are trying to get a FEDERAL court to review the charges, sentence, and process. It is an appalling level of interference but given the pardon of the Jan 6 insurrectionist, we shall see what happens... The sentence and conviction are under review by the CO appellate court, but the DOJ simultaneously has arm-twisted the Federal Court on, of all ironies, a habeas corpus appeal. Hmmm

underpants

(194,588 posts)
5. Sure, send him to state prison.
Wed May 14, 2025, 07:41 AM
May 2025

Chaivin, his family, and his lawyers have to be pleading with DOJ et al not to do this.

Trump doesn’t care. Chauvin serves a racist purpose to him.

hlthe2b

(112,625 posts)
10. NOTE: Chauvin is currently serving FEDERAL 21 year sentence at Big Spring, TX--a LOW-security prison...
Wed May 14, 2025, 08:19 AM
May 2025
Derek Chauvin's federal sentence was 21 years, which he is currently serving. He is incarcerated at the Federal Correctional Institution (FCI) in Big Spring, Texas, a low-security prison. This federal sentence was imposed alongside a state sentence of 22.5 years for second-degree murder, and they are being served concurrently


So, not only is his state sentence longer, but he may well be serving in a considerably HIGHER security prison if transferred to a Minnesota state prison. I have zero knowledge of MN state prisons, but in many states, you MIGHT be better off in the Federal facility.

So, I don't think this is going to be the "favor" that Chauvin's "fans" think it will be.

On edit, that MN Star Tribune has more on what might happen and where he would go (and it would be medium, rather than low security):
If Derek Chauvin were transferred to a Minnesota state prison, he would likely be sent to the Minnesota Correctional Facility in Oak Park Heights, which is a medium-security facility. While Chauvin is currently serving his federal sentence at a low-security federal prison in Texas, his state prison sentence would require him to be housed in a state facility. The move would be necessary because his federal conviction was served concurrently with his state conviction, according to MPR News and the Star Tribune.


It would appear that a Trump pardon would be doing him zero favors.

hlthe2b

(112,625 posts)
18. NO way... Unless they turn over the MN courts, Governor, and state legislature to R's.
Wed May 14, 2025, 09:55 AM
May 2025

Tim Walz will do everything possible to prevent that (and most state prison pardon boards are not prone to pardoning those convicted so decisively for murder--even 2nd degree). Chauvin (to my knowledge) has never taken responsibility nor expressed regret--another factor. Plus, a lot can happen when (hopefully) R's are out of the WH and more limited in Congress. Until then, Chauvin will be firmly tucked into a state prison (assuming he is pardoned of Federal charges).

GregariousGroundhog

(7,593 posts)
20. There's no parole or good time credit in Minnesota
Wed May 14, 2025, 09:59 AM
May 2025

By law, prisoners serve 2/3 of their sentence behind bars and 1/3 on supervised release.

PSPS

(15,195 posts)
21. It varies from state to state but parole is never an option on a federal conviction.
Wed May 14, 2025, 10:18 AM
May 2025

I'm not saying he would get parole on a state conviction but it's not an option at all on a federal conviction.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,593 posts)
19. I also seem to recall serving his time in federal prison to be part of his plea deal
Wed May 14, 2025, 09:58 AM
May 2025

If my memory serves, after he was convicted on the state charges, he agreed to plea guilty to the federal charges on the condition that he serve both sentences concurrently in a federal prison. Minnesota agreed to that deal.

Chauvin would probably decline a federal pardon if it meant him going to a state prison.

Oneironaut

(6,195 posts)
13. If he does do this, the purpose is to incite violence, imo.
Wed May 14, 2025, 08:41 AM
May 2025

This will give him the pretext to invoke martial law and a draconian crackdown everywhere.

He will likely wait until June or July, if so. The hot weather means everyone will be outside and more likely to protest violently.

 

RJ-MacReady

(603 posts)
14. do it
Wed May 14, 2025, 08:51 AM
May 2025

It would be the worst thing for Chauvin. He would be transferred from his federal medium security prison to a maximum security state prison where he won't be nearly as protected.

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