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babylonsister

(172,547 posts)
Thu May 15, 2025, 11:53 AM May 2025

Trump Trashes the U.S. as a 'STUPID Country' of 'SUCKERS' in Birthright Citizenship Rant

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Trump Trashes the U.S. as a ‘STUPID Country’ of ‘SUCKERS’ in Birthright Citizenship Rant
LISTEN UP, SCOTUS
The president also offered the Supreme Court a very questionable history lesson about the 14th Amendment.
Janna Brancolini
Updated May 15 2025 11:53AM EDT
Published May 15 2025 11:23AM EDT


President Donald Trump ranted against the U.S. and its centuries-long tradition of birthright citizenship, saying the U.S. is a “STUPID Country” of “SUCKERS,” as the Supreme Court prepared to take up the issue Thursday.

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“Birthright Citizenship was not meant for people taking vacations to become permanent Citizens of the United States of America, and bringing their families with them, all the time laughing at the ‘SUCKERS’ that we are!” Trump wrote that morning in a Truth Social post.

“The drug cartels love it! We are, for the sake of being politically correct, a STUPID Country,” he added.


The issue hasn’t got anything to do with political correctness, though, and everything to do with the Constitution. The 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause states: “All persons born… in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.”

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Trump Trashes the U.S. as a 'STUPID Country' of 'SUCKERS' in Birthright Citizenship Rant (Original Post) babylonsister May 2025 OP
Isn't there even one Republican, who can object to Trump's trashing of the constitution, they're all there to protect Walleye May 2025 #1
Nation? No. Party of cowards. BadgerMom May 2025 #34
Yes, that's more accurate Walleye May 2025 #38
Meanwhile, he's welcoming 17 members of El Chapo's family into the US. jls4561 May 2025 #2
Thx for the link. That's hair-raising. Hekate May 2025 #36
In his (partial) defense, his supporters *are* stupid suckers, so there's that. UTUSN May 2025 #3
He shouldn't talk about his voters that way. greatauntoftriplets May 2025 #4
Meanwhile he pushes a $5,000,000 buy your citizenship "card". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #5
Meanwhile he welcomes 59 white supremacist Afrikaners to the US, presumably fast-tracked to citizenship. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #6
The declining birth rate is a concern, I thought Johonny May 2025 #7
You see, when he says re-populate America zorbasd May 2025 #10
Caucasian Dullards, you mean Vogon_Glory May 2025 #11
Particularly white supremacists and the South Africans. ananda May 2025 #16
That's exactly what he wants! ShazzieB May 2025 #23
Now we are a stupid country?.... Lovie777 May 2025 #8
Stupid country??????? bdamomma May 2025 #13
Well hildegaard28 May 2025 #40
Then you must be... President Dumbass J Stupid. C_U_L8R May 2025 #9
Would the middle initial stand for Joke? Delmette2.0 May 2025 #45
You know bdamomma May 2025 #12
so, if your parents weren't citizens then you aren't either. ret5hd May 2025 #14
The boob who is bragging about being gifted an old, used airplane GoCubsGo May 2025 #15
I grew up hearing this phrase from war Hawks... 1WorldHope May 2025 #17
One portion I heard involved having some states with birthright citizenship -- and other allegorical oracle May 2025 #18
ah yes! et tu May 2025 #19
A broken clock is right twice a day .... CloudWatcher May 2025 #20
So Trump apparently thinks that millions of women in their ninth month of pregnancy are vacationing in the US? Wiz Imp May 2025 #21
While legal, there is a problem with birth tourism. Women who come to have their children in the U.S. for citizenship. chowder66 May 2025 #39
Not exactly a big problem Wiz Imp May 2025 #42
Never said it was. Just pointing out that there are those that abuse it. chowder66 May 2025 #46
Trump would know. He had lots of Russian birth tourism at a trump property in south Florida. (Link) lostnfound May 2025 #44
Birther Trump Mr.Bee May 2025 #22
A list of "suckers" who signed the U.S. Constitution: Botany May 2025 #24
The G.O.P. draft dodger first called America's soldiers "suckers and losers" BoRaGard May 2025 #25
So he think drug cartels love it? Balatro May 2025 #26
Truer word were never spoken xuplate May 2025 #27
If he hates the drug cartels, why is he letting them in?? Vinca May 2025 #28
Ask Trump how much he made providing this service? mgardener May 2025 #29
Children Iamscrewed May 2025 #30
Chinese people were the scourge Henry203 May 2025 #31
He is correct, as much as I hate to admit it. He did witn the majority of votes so if the majority are Wonder Why May 2025 #32
What, no video? 😱 ShazzieB May 2025 #33
Well, Krasnov, if you think* we are a stupid country of "suckers," MLWR May 2025 #35
kick his stinking lousy grifting nasty offspring out now! UpInArms May 2025 #37
Was Melania a citizen when she birthed Barron? Were Trump's parents citizens when they spawned him? Jit423 May 2025 #41
Melania was NOT a citizen when Barron was born. Nor was Ivanna a citizen when Don Jr, Eric & Ivanka were born. Wiz Imp May 2025 #43

Walleye

(43,710 posts)
1. Isn't there even one Republican, who can object to Trump's trashing of the constitution, they're all there to protect
Thu May 15, 2025, 11:58 AM
May 2025

Nobody will even write a tweet to contradict him. Nation of cowards.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
6. Meanwhile he welcomes 59 white supremacist Afrikaners to the US, presumably fast-tracked to citizenship. . . . nt
Thu May 15, 2025, 12:06 PM
May 2025

Johonny

(25,291 posts)
7. The declining birth rate is a concern, I thought
Thu May 15, 2025, 12:06 PM
May 2025

But if being born in America doesn't bring citizenship, isn't that a big turnoff to his whole let's repopulate America campaign?

zorbasd

(511 posts)
10. You see, when he says re-populate America
Thu May 15, 2025, 12:23 PM
May 2025

he means re-populate with only white people.

Vogon_Glory

(10,171 posts)
11. Caucasian Dullards, you mean
Thu May 15, 2025, 12:44 PM
May 2025

The sort of white people that some far right Xenophobic ideologues and theoreticians fantasize about would be too clever to vote for MAGA candidates .

As a straight white male of a certain age, I find these MAGA influencers and politicos to be extremely embarrassing.

ananda

(34,308 posts)
16. Particularly white supremacists and the South Africans.
Thu May 15, 2025, 01:12 PM
May 2025

If much of my extended family is anything to go by,
he's succeeding here in Texas.

ShazzieB

(22,148 posts)
23. That's exactly what he wants!
Thu May 15, 2025, 02:01 PM
May 2025

He wants to make this country a white supremacist paradise!

bdamomma

(69,139 posts)
12. You know
Thu May 15, 2025, 12:48 PM
May 2025

he can STFU, move to Qatar, or Saudi Arabia or any dictatorship country and leave us the fuck alone to have some sanity.

ret5hd

(22,128 posts)
14. so, if your parents weren't citizens then you aren't either.
Thu May 15, 2025, 12:57 PM
May 2025

what if your grandparents weren’t? Then your parents weren’t so you aren’t.

what about great grandparents? Then your grandparents weren’t, so your parents weren’t , so you aren’t.

okay…so great great grandparents. See where i’m going? The only citizens are native americans.

i may be able to live with that.

GoCubsGo

(34,636 posts)
15. The boob who is bragging about being gifted an old, used airplane
Thu May 15, 2025, 01:09 PM
May 2025

that those gifting it to him were trying to get rid of the heap for decades, is calling other people "stupid"? Holy shit. Talk about projection. I don't know who is more stupid, that drug-addled motherfucker, or the imbeciles who voted for him.

IIRC, one of his professors at Penn called him "the dumbest goddam student I ever had."

1WorldHope

(1,829 posts)
17. I grew up hearing this phrase from war Hawks...
Thu May 15, 2025, 01:15 PM
May 2025

America, love it, or leave it.
Me thinks he should leave Now!
Move to the middle east and see how much they like you when you don't have a country to offer them anymore.

allegorical oracle

(6,136 posts)
18. One portion I heard involved having some states with birthright citizenship -- and other
Thu May 15, 2025, 01:27 PM
May 2025

states opting out.

Hypothetical given was NJ and PA. If, say, you were born in NJ, you would be born a citizen. If you were born in PA, you wouldn't. But if you traveled from PA to NJ (and it's a "porous" state, the attorney said), you would be a citizen while in NJ, but not a citizen when you returned to PA. The reverse would be the case if you were in NJ and traveled to PA.

Likewise, if you were born in a birthright citizenship state, you would be issued a SS upon birth. Not so in PA. And if a family moved from PA to NJ (the attorney said 6,000 such moves occur each year), NJ would have to spend money and time establishing citizenship for "new families" that arrived.

This concept sounds like a nightmare akin to the abortion issue -- where it's legal in some states and not others. The logical result is people would flock to birthright citizenship states. Then what? A law would be passed that requires everyone to remain in the state where they were born for their lifetime?

CloudWatcher

(2,127 posts)
20. A broken clock is right twice a day ....
Thu May 15, 2025, 01:42 PM
May 2025

I can agree with him on this. For proof we just have to look at the last election and note the number of people that voted for him, or didn't bother to vote. Stupid Country of Suckers doesn't begin to describe my disgust with the lazy fools and maggots.

Ofc the current court case should never have made it this far. The 14th Amendment is not hard to understand. The first part of the 14th Amendment:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Perhaps they'd like to get rid of the "due process" part as well, since that appears to be effectively being ignored by this administration.

Oh! And all of the rest of it too, there's Section 3 that should have disqualified Trump from holding office:

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Anyone with a working neuron would know that Trump has at least "given aid or comfort" to the insurrectionists of January 6. And Congress did not by 2/3 vote remove the ban against him running for high office.

I wonder if they want the whole 14th removed as it was passed under duress?

From the Senate page on the 14th: Congress required former Confederate states to ratify the Fourteenth Amendment as a condition of regaining federal representation.

So surely this amendment in its entitreity is null and void?

But the Supreme Court has no right to "overturn" the 14th, so I suggest we amend the constitution to remove Birthright Citizenship retroactively to 1776. A nation run only by Native Americans could be interesting.

In the meantime, how about we require people swearing to uphold the Constitution to affirm that they have actually read the thing? Trump wasn't lying when he said "I don't know" if he had to uphold the Constitution. I suspect he's never read any of it.


Wiz Imp

(8,748 posts)
21. So Trump apparently thinks that millions of women in their ninth month of pregnancy are vacationing in the US?
Thu May 15, 2025, 01:50 PM
May 2025

chowder66

(11,761 posts)
39. While legal, there is a problem with birth tourism. Women who come to have their children in the U.S. for citizenship.
Thu May 15, 2025, 03:23 PM
May 2025

It's abused by people from other countries. They come here very pregnant and have their child who gets citizenship, then they typically go back home.

Our building complex in L.A. had two waves of Russian women who did this. There are minders that charge a big fee and help them with the process, find lodging, hospitals, etc.

Wiz Imp

(8,748 posts)
42. Not exactly a big problem
Thu May 15, 2025, 06:17 PM
May 2025

According to the Niskanen Center, the likely number is only about 2000 per year, hardly an existential crisis.

https://www.niskanencenter.org/the-birth-tourism-bogeyman/

chowder66

(11,761 posts)
46. Never said it was. Just pointing out that there are those that abuse it.
Thu May 15, 2025, 08:07 PM
May 2025

And make money off of it.

Botany

(76,254 posts)
24. A list of "suckers" who signed the U.S. Constitution:
Thu May 15, 2025, 02:02 PM
May 2025

The 39 delegates who signed the Constitution on September 17, 1787, and the states they represented were as follows:

Washington, George, Virginia
Franklin, Benjamin, Pennsylvania
Madison, James, Virginia Hamilton, Alexander, New York
Morris, Gouverneur, Pennsylvania
Morris, Robert, Pennsylvania
Wilson, James, Pennsylvania
Pinckney, Chas. Cotesworth, South Carolina
Pinckney, Chas, South Carolina
Rutledge, John, South Carolina
Butler, Pierce, South Carolina
Sherman, Roger, Connecticut
Johnson, William Samuel, Connecticut
McHenry, James, Maryland
Read, George, Delaware
Bassett, Richard, Delaware
Spaight, Richard Dobbs, North Carolina
Blount, William, North Carolina
Williamson, Hugh, North Carolina
Jenifer, Daniel of St. Thomas, Maryland
King, Rufus, Massachusetts
Gorham, Nathaniel, Massachusetts
Dayton, Jonathan, New Jersey
Carroll, Daniel, Maryland
Few, William, Georgia
Baldwin, Abraham, Georgia
Langdon, John, New Hampshire
Gilman, Nicholas, New Hampshire
Livingston, William, New Jersey
Paterson, William, New Jersey
Mifflin, Thomas, Pennsylvania
Clymer, George, Pennsylvania
FitzSimons, Thomas, Pennsylvania
Ingersoll, Jared, Pennsylvania
Bedford, Gunning, Jr., Delaware
Brearley, David, New Jersey
Dickinson, John, Delaware
Blair, John, Virginia
Broom, Jacob, Delaware

******
If we really had a legitimate free press Krasnov would have been asked about
our founding fathers and which one were suckers?

Good God in Butter this is madness.

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
25. The G.O.P. draft dodger first called America's soldiers "suckers and losers"
Thu May 15, 2025, 02:12 PM
May 2025

So now it's everyone.

Screw you Krasnov, and your billionaire bro republicon parasites.

 

Balatro

(51 posts)
26. So he think drug cartels love it?
Thu May 15, 2025, 02:14 PM
May 2025

So drug cartels love coming here,

1. having babies then
2. ?????
3. Profit?

Henry203

(832 posts)
31. Chinese people were the scourge
Thu May 15, 2025, 02:33 PM
May 2025

and were the people treated like the "brown people" today. They are the only people who had a law passed to keep them out. My Grandfather was a birthright citizen who was deported. It took him 15 years to get back and the 1898 ruling for Wong is probably the only reason he got back.
Seventeen of my eighteen cousinds received their 4 year degrees. The only one who didn't finished 3 years. She was so a smart she skipped a grade. Compare that to the losers on the typical republican side.
My other grandfateher was ILLEGAL and his wife( my grandmother ) was arrested for being with him in 1910.

TODAY'S republicans are racist assholes.

Wonder Why

(6,513 posts)
32. He is correct, as much as I hate to admit it. He did witn the majority of votes so if the majority are
Thu May 15, 2025, 02:34 PM
May 2025

stupid, what would you call a country they live in?

I live in a stupid MAGAt state (NC) and a stupid country. Doesn't mean all of us are, but the country qualifies.

ShazzieB

(22,148 posts)
33. What, no video? 😱
Thu May 15, 2025, 02:36 PM
May 2025

I was a little disappointed to find that the article was about a Truth Social post. I clicked on it hoping to see some juicy video footage.

Also, who wants to bet Stephen Miller wrote this for him? Not just because of the correct grammar, punctuation, and spelling, and the lack of typos, but because Schlump could never write something this long that stays on track to the end and contains facts like the year the Civil War ended. He couldn't even read something this long much less write it!

Before I go, here's an archive link that doesn't require registration to read it:

https://archive.ph/2025.05.15-154857/https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-trashes-the-us-as-a-stupid-country-of-suckers-in-birthright-citizenship-rant/

MLWR

(746 posts)
35. Well, Krasnov, if you think* we are a stupid country of "suckers,"
Thu May 15, 2025, 02:51 PM
May 2025

you can always leave. Most of us won't try to keep you here against your will.

Jit423

(1,568 posts)
41. Was Melania a citizen when she birthed Barron? Were Trump's parents citizens when they spawned him?
Thu May 15, 2025, 05:58 PM
May 2025

Just asking.

Wiz Imp

(8,748 posts)
43. Melania was NOT a citizen when Barron was born. Nor was Ivanna a citizen when Don Jr, Eric & Ivanka were born.
Thu May 15, 2025, 06:32 PM
May 2025

However since they all still had one parent who was a US citizen at the time of their birth, they would still be citizens.

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