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snowybirdie

(6,545 posts)
Thu May 15, 2025, 02:22 PM May 2025

Got DOGED today

Hubby had to see our doc whom we've seen for five years. Presented his Medicare Card, and the computer showed no such person! Despite the number on his official Medicare card. Always worked before. After working with the office Manager and blood pressure rises, we found his number had been changed. Arbitrarily and with no notice. Now what the hell??????? Watch out folks.

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Got DOGED today (Original Post) snowybirdie May 2025 OP
Several years ago, they changed everyone's cards. Then, in 2023 there was a data breach and some cards #s Silent Type May 2025 #1
No, they never changed everyone's cards. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2025 #17
Everyone who had a Social Security Number on Medicare card darn sure did, and most did. I think around 2018 or so. Silent Type May 2025 #20
Nope. I didn't get a new card. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2025 #21
Here it is straight from the damn government in 2017. 60 Million cards changed. When did you go on Medicare. Silent Type May 2025 #22
I went on Medicare when I turned 65, and I'm now PoindexterOglethorpe May 2025 #23
Do you always debate truth based upon what happened solely to you vs. 60 Million people? Silent Type May 2025 #25
You two seem to be talking about two different cards. Ms. Toad May 2025 #33
My Mother RobinA May 2025 #42
Mine was changed from my SSN several years ago sinkingfeeling May 2025 #27
It's confirmation bias to blame every quirk in a system full of quirks on DOGE. Ms. Toad May 2025 #2
Right. But we can definitely suspect something is going on. erronis May 2025 #3
Hmm... MayReasonRule May 2025 #7
I love your post Dave says May 2025 #15
It is confirmation bias. Ms. Toad May 2025 #16
So You're Saying You Recognize Your Own Confirmation Bias? MayReasonRule May 2025 #31
Everyone has confirmation bias. Ms. Toad May 2025 #32
Well Said Y'all - Humanity Often Employs Confirmation Bias In Addition To Many "Logical" Divergences MayReasonRule May 2025 #34
Lucky you. Ms. Toad May 2025 #36
Understand... I've Got Four Tomato Varieties In The Front Vegetable And Flower Bed... MayReasonRule May 2025 #37
That's one of the tomatoes I grow. Ms. Toad May 2025 #38
Huh... I'm Surprised About The Lack Of Flavor... MayReasonRule May 2025 #39
Cherokee is a much more intense flavor. Ms. Toad May 2025 #40
Cherokee And Black Krim Are Always Stand Outs For Flavor And Production.. MayReasonRule May 2025 #41
Should I order a new Medicare card? I haven't used mine in a long time FakeNoose May 2025 #4
I'd check snowybirdie May 2025 #5
Why was it not good today? PoindexterOglethorpe May 2025 #19
The docs office snowybirdie May 2025 #29
No, no, no, no, no. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2025 #18
It's not snowybirdie May 2025 #30
It's not like a credit card, PoindexterOglethorpe May 2025 #24
Well, Maybe He Doesn't RobinA May 2025 #43
Terrible Meowmee May 2025 #6
Docs office snowybirdie May 2025 #8
Great 😀 Meowmee May 2025 #9
Yep the doctors' office staff will be busy busy busy it seems Attilatheblond May 2025 #10
I periodically get a phone call asking me if I've PoindexterOglethorpe May 2025 #11
I got that phone call twice Delmette2.0 May 2025 #14
Unbelievable incompetence. Joinfortmill May 2025 #12
...And people are saying the DOGE AI will solve all the alleged ills of the system. AI has too often been a generator Ford_Prefect May 2025 #13
Who the hell knows what doge has done with our personal data vapor2 May 2025 #26
Maybe those DOGE terrorists did it, Dark n Stormy Knight May 2025 #28
How much is that DOGE in the window................? n/t DFW May 2025 #35
 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
1. Several years ago, they changed everyone's cards. Then, in 2023 there was a data breach and some cards #s
Thu May 15, 2025, 02:28 PM
May 2025

were changed. It could have happened again.

Hope it works out.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,407 posts)
17. No, they never changed everyone's cards.
Thu May 15, 2025, 08:59 PM
May 2025

Data breach notwithstanding, trust me, everyone's cards have never been changed. Never.

Do tell me more about everyone's cards supposedly being changed.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
20. Everyone who had a Social Security Number on Medicare card darn sure did, and most did. I think around 2018 or so.
Thu May 15, 2025, 09:06 PM
May 2025

Next time I’ll use “virtually all.”

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,407 posts)
21. Nope. I didn't get a new card.
Thu May 15, 2025, 09:10 PM
May 2025

In fact, I still have my original SS card from 1964, which states clearly it is NOT to be used for identification.

Maybe for some reason you got a new card, but I have never gotten a new one. Well, okay, about twenty years ago I could not find my original, so I requested a replacement card, but that was my request. I feel quite certain they have never just sent out new cards.

Ms. Toad

(38,093 posts)
33. You two seem to be talking about two different cards.
Fri May 16, 2025, 08:58 AM
May 2025

The thread is about Medicare cards. You seem to be talking about Social Security cards.

In case you are talking about Medicare cards, from the article:

CMS will begin mailing the new cards to people with Medicare benefits in April 2018 to meet the statutory deadline for replacing all existing Medicare cards by April 2019. In addition to today’s announcement, people with Medicare will also be able to see the design of the new Medicare card in the 2018 Medicare & You Handbook. The handbooks are being mailed and will arrive throughout September.

RobinA

(10,464 posts)
42. My Mother
Fri May 16, 2025, 01:27 PM
May 2025

got a new card changing her old number, her social security number with a letter attached, to a new, completely random number. Maybe they aren't done yet, now maybe they never will be.

Ms. Toad

(38,093 posts)
2. It's confirmation bias to blame every quirk in a system full of quirks on DOGE.
Thu May 15, 2025, 02:31 PM
May 2025

Do some investigating and let us know if it really was DOGE, or something else.

erronis

(22,482 posts)
3. Right. But we can definitely suspect something is going on.
Thu May 15, 2025, 04:04 PM
May 2025

It's not "confirmation bias" when musk cancels deals an puts himself (his companies) in place of the canceled contracts.

And given the total transparency of what trump/musk/doge are doing, it should be really easy to find out what happened in this case.

/grins!

MayReasonRule

(4,008 posts)
7. Hmm...
Thu May 15, 2025, 04:49 PM
May 2025

Is it confirmation bias to blame confirmation bias for every quirk in a system full of quirks because of DOGE?

Time will tell.

Either way...

Here's to the ongoing battle for the restoration of our freedoms through our nation's defeat of fascism and a return to reason's rule.

Here's to eating well, sleeping well, and staying well!



Dave says

(5,312 posts)
15. I love your post
Thu May 15, 2025, 06:47 PM
May 2025

“ Here's to the ongoing battle for the restoration of our freedoms through our nation's defeat of fascism and a return to reason's rule.

Here's to eating well, sleeping well, and staying well!”

Ms. Toad

(38,093 posts)
16. It is confirmation bias.
Thu May 15, 2025, 07:02 PM
May 2025

Whether that bias is accurate in this particular instance will take time and research.

Ms. Toad

(38,093 posts)
32. Everyone has confirmation bias.
Fri May 16, 2025, 08:49 AM
May 2025

Because I am aware that, like everyone else, I want/expect certain things to be true, I spend a lot of time fact checking before I post things in line with that bias - or engage in substantive conversation about the current someone else has posted.

Occasionally I get caught reacting before fact checking - but not often.

MayReasonRule

(4,008 posts)
34. Well Said Y'all - Humanity Often Employs Confirmation Bias In Addition To Many "Logical" Divergences
Fri May 16, 2025, 09:34 AM
May 2025

Just got back from Red River Research Experiment Station in Bossier City, LA with one large box of green tomatoes, one large box of ripe tomatoes, and nearly three pounds of cherry tomatoes.

I wanted to stick around for the yellow crookneck squash they were harvesting...
Unfortunately I needed to hurry on back to slap some front pads on our GLE.

They offer pesticide free vegetables from mid March generally through September. We're frequent customers!

Happy Friday again...

May your day be bright and your enjoyment immense!

Ms. Toad

(38,093 posts)
36. Lucky you.
Fri May 16, 2025, 10:23 AM
May 2025

My tomatoes are about 8-12" high, and ready to get planted. Tomatoes are months' off.

MayReasonRule

(4,008 posts)
37. Understand... I've Got Four Tomato Varieties In The Front Vegetable And Flower Bed...
Fri May 16, 2025, 10:30 AM
May 2025

Life difficulties precluded my usual spring plant starts this year...

So I'm working on getting up our greenhouse for the fall and winter.
I can start greenhouse pepper plants now... I'll have to wait a bit before I plant seeds for outdoor fall tomatoes and greenhouse tomatoes for the winter.
I'm excited about getting my Japanese Black Trifele tomato seeds finally started!

Looking forward to some friend green tomatoes today!

I generally make a little fermented chow chow as well!!

Ms. Toad

(38,093 posts)
38. That's one of the tomatoes I grow.
Fri May 16, 2025, 10:35 AM
May 2025

Prolific little critters - and the shape is much more varied than any other variety I've seen. "Pear-shaped" is only true for around half of them. I'm less fond of the flavor than of my other varieties, but any fresh tomato is better than none - and it fills in the gaps when the others are slower to provide fruit.

MayReasonRule

(4,008 posts)
39. Huh... I'm Surprised About The Lack Of Flavor...
Fri May 16, 2025, 10:44 AM
May 2025

Here in North Louisiana the Japanese Black Trifele flavor rivaled Black Cherry, Brandywine, Cherokee and various Boarcreek varieties.

Somewhere I've got a garden notebook where I detailed the various varieties plant brix level at the time of harvest paired with the flavor characteristics of each variety.

My best results were in conjunction with foliar feedings and feeding my soil compost tea.

There are soooooo many great varieties it's always a challenge to even decide which to roll with in a given season.

I like that challenge!!

Ms. Toad

(38,093 posts)
40. Cherokee is a much more intense flavor.
Fri May 16, 2025, 10:58 AM
May 2025

It and Black Krim are similar enough that I can't tell them apart in a blind taste test, but JBT isn't in that category.

I've got a standard rotation of 9 - with a 10th I haven't settled on. It lives on my deck so it needs to be a determinate (or compact indeterminate) and I haven't found a reliable one yet - and its purpose in life is to give me something earlier in the season. Haven't found a reliable one yet. The one I planted last year was supposed to be early and disease resistant. It turned out to be the last to produce - and the first to disease.

Unfortunately, my sun is limited - and the only spot with enough sun to get a decent crop is on a concrete pad. So mine are all grown in fabric pots with the same soil mixture. It does give me a way to compare apples to apples, though, in terms of taste/productivity since there is virtually no soil variation from plant to plant.

MayReasonRule

(4,008 posts)
41. Cherokee And Black Krim Are Always Stand Outs For Flavor And Production..
Fri May 16, 2025, 12:08 PM
May 2025

I wonder if perhaps I have some particular variant of Japanese Black Trifele...

Or perhaps it's just the difference in our climate and soil...

Either way Happy Gardening!!

Back out to finish up front pads on the Benz...

snowybirdie

(6,545 posts)
5. I'd check
Thu May 15, 2025, 04:41 PM
May 2025

Your number on the Medicare website. Hubby's card was good in March but not today.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,407 posts)
19. Why was it not good today?
Thu May 15, 2025, 09:04 PM
May 2025

And I need specifics, not just a vague thing about it not being accepted somewhere. Why was it not accepted? Where was it not accepted? Why?

Asking questions helps.

snowybirdie

(6,545 posts)
29. The docs office
Fri May 16, 2025, 05:35 AM
May 2025

Said their computer refused to accept the number. It wasn't valid. The office manager eventually used his social security number to get into Medicare site and got a totally new number! No notice to him at all. The card he carries for Medicare for years is now incorrect according to them. Huh?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,407 posts)
18. No, no, no, no, no.
Thu May 15, 2025, 09:03 PM
May 2025

You do NOT need a new card. Your SS# should not have changed, ever. If it has, you need to be in touch with your nearest SS office.

Meanwhile, you DO NOT NEED A NEW CARD. You don't. Notice that you don't need to actually show the card to get any kind of services or information or anything at all related to SS. So, at the risk of repeating myself, you don't need a new card.

snowybirdie

(6,545 posts)
30. It's not
Fri May 16, 2025, 05:38 AM
May 2025

His Social Security card. It's the card Medicare card sent us all several years ago. It carries a random number with numbers and letters. Different

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,407 posts)
24. It's not like a credit card,
Thu May 15, 2025, 09:18 PM
May 2025

that might go inactive if you don't use it. It's your SS# on the Medicare card. Or a serial number connected to your SS#. You don't need a new card.

RobinA

(10,464 posts)
43. Well, Maybe He Doesn't
Fri May 16, 2025, 01:39 PM
May 2025

technically NEED a new card, but if his doctor won't honor his old card with an old number, he's gotta get a new card with the right number. In fact, one doesn't really technically NEED to have a card in hand at all. They can easily look up your number pretty quickly if they want to. To me this demand for an actual card is a fun way of exercising control over the patients they aren't allowed to be outright nasty to.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
6. Terrible
Thu May 15, 2025, 04:44 PM
May 2025

Did you call Medicare? Hopefully they can straighten it out ASAP.


I think in New York, they are planning to maybe have a state wide health insurance that will be paid for from peoples jobs / taxes or something. I’m not sure. Because there was a survey from one of our new reps sent about that. It says it’s also going to cover dental, vision, and ears.

But I’m not clear on who is going to be allowed to be on it and if it will apply to people that are on Medicare, etc. If it means tremendously higher taxes, though I’m not sure about this so I would like to hear more about it.

Attilatheblond

(8,142 posts)
10. Yep the doctors' office staff will be busy busy busy it seems
Thu May 15, 2025, 05:02 PM
May 2025

When enough financially stable medical clinics have to put on more staff to deal with problems this administration's idiots create and start raising bloody hell with their reps, maybe the GOP hack on the Hill with do something.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,407 posts)
11. I periodically get a phone call asking me if I've
Thu May 15, 2025, 05:17 PM
May 2025

received a new Medicare card. No, never. I'm pretty sure they never just send out new cards, nor do they phone people to ask them if they've gotten the new cards. Usually they say they need to verify the last four digits. Nope. Never gonna do that.

I will say, that given how many millions of people collect Medicare in some way, it's not surprising that on occasion someone gets listed as dead who really is still alive. That kind of thing has always happened, and I know they can be quite slow in un-deading someone.

Delmette2.0

(4,464 posts)
14. I got that phone call twice
Thu May 15, 2025, 06:38 PM
May 2025

The second caller got an earful.
I launched in right away. By the time I was done she should have been too embarrassed to keep working there.
But I know she probably needed a job. I feel more sorry for elderly people like me who couldn't go to work if they needed to.

Ford_Prefect

(8,500 posts)
13. ...And people are saying the DOGE AI will solve all the alleged ills of the system. AI has too often been a generator
Thu May 15, 2025, 05:24 PM
May 2025

of such problems, so far.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,480 posts)
28. Maybe those DOGE terrorists did it,
Thu May 15, 2025, 10:10 PM
May 2025

but they changed mine last year supposedly due to some security breach. They did inform me by mail.

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