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applegrove

(130,657 posts)
Thu May 15, 2025, 09:01 PM May 2025

DOGE took control of the FAA, fired hundreds of air traffic employees--and then our air traffic control system mysterious

DOGE took control of the FAA, fired hundreds of air traffic employees—and then our air traffic control system mysteriously started shitting itself.

Probably just a coincidence!

Max Berger (@maxberger.bsky.social) 2025-05-15T22:04:29.839Z


Denver Post

"Pilots flying into Denver International Airport on Monday couldn’t communicate with air traffic controllers for about six minutes after multiple radio transmitters failed, according to reporting from Denver7".

Max Berger:

"DOGE took control of the FAA, fired hundreds of air traffic employees—and then our air traffic control system mysteriously started shitting itself.

Probably just a coincidence!"
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DOGE took control of the FAA, fired hundreds of air traffic employees--and then our air traffic control system mysterious (Original Post) applegrove May 2025 OP
ATC has been understaffed and stuck with outdated equipment for decades, ever since Ocelot II May 2025 #1
Probably intentional sabotage so Musk can get paid Jacoby365 May 2025 #2
AND privatize it. dchill May 2025 #3
Pay to land? BidenRocks May 2025 #7
Our aviation system is under control of ? Russia? Musk is making billions Bread and Circuses May 2025 #4
It's pretty obvious they want to use Musk's AI technology for Air Traffic Control erodriguez May 2025 #5
And remember red don's idol is not averse to having planes fall out of the sky not fooled May 2025 #6
K&R spanone May 2025 #8
I wonder if this is also about controlling the ability of people MadameButterfly May 2025 #9
BINGO! Attilatheblond May 2025 #11
Anyone who thinks that you are paranoid markodochartaigh May 2025 #12
Great post. raccoon May 2025 #16
Musk wanted to do new SS system. BidenRocks May 2025 #10
I haven't been on an airplane since 2014. FoxNewsSucks May 2025 #13
They run off of 1970's and 1980's technology Melon May 2025 #14
G.O.P. has really screwed up air travel BoRaGard May 2025 #15
I've taken hundreds if not thousands of flights in my career. NNadir May 2025 #17
Efficiency the likes of which the world has never seen before dalton99a May 2025 #18

Ocelot II

(129,454 posts)
1. ATC has been understaffed and stuck with outdated equipment for decades, ever since
Thu May 15, 2025, 09:08 PM
May 2025

Reagan fired PATCO, and since then Congress has continued to underfund the FAA. But DOGE and Trump apparently seem to think cutting back even further will fix things. FAA's MAGA administrator talks about upgrading the technology, which should be done, but it seems like the intent is to give the contract to Melon Husk - and he'll slap together something that works about as well as a Cybertruck - with pieces falling off and intermittent explosions and fires. What could possibly go wrong?

erodriguez

(911 posts)
5. It's pretty obvious they want to use Musk's AI technology for Air Traffic Control
Thu May 15, 2025, 09:47 PM
May 2025

It's pretty simple. Break the system so much that humans would not want to ever do the job. Declare an national emergency and say only I have the tech to fix it.

not fooled

(6,613 posts)
6. And remember red don's idol is not averse to having planes fall out of the sky
Thu May 15, 2025, 09:51 PM
May 2025

what's a few hundred lives here or there?

MadameButterfly

(3,811 posts)
9. I wonder if this is also about controlling the ability of people
Thu May 15, 2025, 10:02 PM
May 2025

to travel freely. What if they are several steps ahead of us in the authoritarian playbook?
What if people can't flee the country? What if certain Congresspeople can't show up for an emergency vote? What if travel is restricted for some groups and not others?

I don't mean to be paranoid but there are many reasons I don't want Elon controlling air traffic.

markodochartaigh

(5,131 posts)
12. Anyone who thinks that you are paranoid
Thu May 15, 2025, 10:15 PM
May 2025

should ask themselves if they thought that the supreme court would ever stop an election to pick the president. Whether the Senate leader would ever refuse to hold a hearing for a supreme court justice because the president was from the opposite party. Whether a president would ever single-handedly form a new government agency and then appoint an unelected billionaire to head it.
If they predicted all of that then maybe they are wise enough to say who is paranoid.

BidenRocks

(2,862 posts)
10. Musk wanted to do new SS system.
Thu May 15, 2025, 10:06 PM
May 2025

Screw that!

Regardless who builds it, the old system needs to function until after a successful hand off.
Many years from now.
When they see the price tag, we'll see why it hasn't been fixed for many years.
It doesn't get funded.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,512 posts)
13. I haven't been on an airplane since 2014.
Thu May 15, 2025, 10:50 PM
May 2025

This just convinces me more that driving everywhere was the right decision.

As sucky as flying became back then, it's gotten even worse. And that's not even taking the other things posted here into consideration.

Melon

(1,133 posts)
14. They run off of 1970's and 1980's technology
Fri May 16, 2025, 03:50 AM
May 2025

Please update the systems and implement quickly. There is no reason not to modernize here.

NNadir

(37,388 posts)
17. I've taken hundreds if not thousands of flights in my career.
Fri May 16, 2025, 11:45 AM
May 2025

I had a few events that were close calls, one in which I was momentarily sure I was going to die.

That said I've never been as concerned with flying as I will be on Monday, when I fly out of Newark.

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