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Botany

(76,464 posts)
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 12:59 PM Aug 2025

I am seeing the smoke from the Canadian and other wildfires @ 2 pm 8/13/25 Central Ohio

https://firesmoke.ca/forecasts/current/

We are cooking the planet. In Germany something like 150 years ago it was proven that the more CO 2 you have
in a body of gas the more heat that body of gas will hold. Our planet, the Earth will always be here (except when
the Sun becomes a red giant) but humans don’t have to be.

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Botany

(76,464 posts)
3. The planet's boreal forests are burning.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 01:16 PM
Aug 2025


I know that we get dead trees in these Tiaga forests but they should be under snow for 4 to 8
months out of the year and the ground layer should be damp the rest of the year with moss,
lichens, ferns, rotting timber, leaf litter, surface water, and evergreens. These lands used
to almost never “carry fires” likely do now.



The bottoms of the cumulus clouds I am looking @ now are grey from the forest fire smoke.

North Coast Lawyer

(232 posts)
5. things are indeed changing fast
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 01:41 PM
Aug 2025

The northern boreal forest - the words largest terrestrial biome -- is rapidly transitioning to steppe grassland. This change is undeniable. However, the impacts may not be so bad. Steppe grassland is actually more biologically productive than boreal forest. Increasing agricultural productivity on the Canadian prairies and in Russia will likely more than offset any decreased productivity in areas that become too hot to effectively farm. West Texas may be screwed but things are looking up for northern Saskatchewan.

Botany

(76,464 posts)
8. Yes losing its boreal forests and being on fire are good things for Saskatchewan.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 04:05 PM
Aug 2025

Last edited Thu Aug 14, 2025, 11:21 AM - Edit history (1)



Nice try.

North Coast Lawyer

(232 posts)
10. things change
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:16 PM
Aug 2025

The Earth's environment's are always changing with or without human help. Recent human activity is indeed impacting the environment -- climate change is real. However, not everyone will lose -- there will be winners and losers. Before I gave it up and went to law school I spent a lot of time studying boreal forest environments (at university and with the Canadian Forest Service). There have been times in the past when the boreal forest was much smaller than it is today. Such times weren't better or worse than today -- just different.

There's no reason to believe that human aided climate change will be catastrophic. Things will be different for sure. However, there's no reason to think that detrimental impacts won't be outweighed by new opportunities.

Botany

(76,464 posts)
11. Stop it you're killing me that is some funny writing.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:34 PM
Aug 2025

“Before I gave it up and went to law school I spent a lot of time studying boreal forest environments (at university and with the Canadian Forest Service).” A.I. much?



“There have been times in the past when the boreal forest was much smaller than it is today. Such times weren't better or worse than today -- just different.”

Words of wisdom!

NowsTheTime

(1,254 posts)
6. Forest fires release heat and co2 into the atmosphere while simultaneosly destroying available carbon storage.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 02:34 PM
Aug 2025

....exponentially f****** the planet.

Botany

(76,464 posts)
7. Yup and even better is the planetary death factory that are the Canadian "tar sands" where you cut down hundreds if not
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 03:59 PM
Aug 2025

….thousand of acres of boreal forest ecosystems in order to mine the tar sands which need to be heated so they
can pipe it down to deferent ports, refineries, and chemical plants and that sand sludge mix is called bitumen and it is
dense with greenhouse gases when burned along with sulfur and metals. Btw bitumen is really hard to clean up
when spilled.


NowsTheTime

(1,254 posts)
12. Good point...There is a video on Neil Young singing Mother Earth as a protest and video of the tar sands...
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 06:20 AM
Aug 2025
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