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David Shuster on X: "A few GOP house members say theyve heard from FBI/DOJ contacts that the Epstein files (with copies in different agencies) are worse than Michael Wolffs description of Epstein photos showingTrump with half naked teenage girls. Speculation/rumors sweeping through GOP caucus. 1/" / X
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Easterncedar
(5,426 posts)And hope something of those files survives.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)C_U_L8R
(48,796 posts)Trump knows that if he could hide his taxes for this long, he can surely keep his Epstein child sex crime evidence buried.
PatSeg
(51,976 posts)who has SO MANY awful secrets would keep more of a low profile. If a person is trying to hide something(s), politics is probably the worst career choice he/she could make. By running for national office, Trump was just asking to be exposed, though I am surprised he ever got as far as he did.
Of course, Trump is both arrogant and naive enough to think he can get away with such crap.
C_U_L8R
(48,796 posts)It was that or go to jail.
PatSeg
(51,976 posts)He was really scared of prison, though clearly he loves having so much power as well.
RainCaster
(13,372 posts)Even criminals have a sense of honor when it comes to children.
PatSeg
(51,976 posts)were victims of child abuse and have no sympathy for abusers.
zorbasd
(512 posts)everything he has done all his life, with very little repricusions.
PatSeg
(51,976 posts)Meanwhile, the things he did over the years were public knowledge, yet he still got away with it.
misanthrope
(9,349 posts)How many other rotten humans are there out there with access to near-comparable wealth and power who have gotten away with similar because they were smart enough not to draw attention to themself in the same way as Trump did?
While the world contains stupefying wonder and beauty there is also a heap of heartbreaking awfulness in it.
SergeStorms
(19,906 posts)His cult doesn't seem to care what he does just as long as he hates like they hate.
rampartd
(3,597 posts)I suppose they see it as a worthy cause, plus he is rich and powerful.
PatSeg
(51,976 posts)I remember lots of exposes on Trump back in 2016 and throughout his first term. Just one or two of those scandals would have destroyed anyone else's career in a heartbeat, but it all just slides off his fat back. They decided early on that he was their guy and refused to listen to any well documented information on the man or as you say, they just don't care.
Ah but now his bullshit policies are hurting them personally, not just those they hate. Maybe he's not so great after all?
Don is not a wise man. The Guardians Of Pedo party will cover for him and many others that are on the Epstein files..
PatSeg
(51,976 posts)stick together and protect one another. Kind of like a fraternity.
Paladin
(32,217 posts)AllaN01Bear
(28,492 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,731 posts)
UpInArms
(53,963 posts)is disgustingly and revolting
and exposes so much darkness
Evil inhabits our countrys highest office
Botany
(76,264 posts)
.. 22 years ago just to make Trump look bad in 2025.
Wonderful Secrets
IronLionZion
(50,738 posts)Botany
(76,264 posts)After all that was how Barack Obama was able to go back in time to plant his birth announcement
in 3 different Hawaiian newspapers.
electric_blue68
(25,641 posts)😉
Historic NY
(39,581 posts)dalton99a
(91,859 posts)Lovie777
(21,583 posts)irisblue
(36,690 posts)Raven123
(7,472 posts)And adjourn before her replacement is elected?
leftstreet
(38,739 posts)I don't know if it leans D or R
But yeah Johnson will be playing Musical Chairs
yellow dahlia
(4,305 posts)FakeNoose
(40,015 posts)Nobody's fooling anybody. Let's get this out in the open.
Remember when Bill Clinton got a blowjob in the White House? Remember when we all had to hear the nasty details, no matter who got embarrassed. How is this any different?

sop
(17,294 posts)lapfog_1
(31,574 posts)by getting them to engage him as their financial advisor... and then skimming the money deposited with him as "fees" ( thus hiding the blackmail as legitimate services, paying taxes on the blackmail money.
The disturbing thing is that the description of what these men did to the young girls... they didn't just have sex or get a hand-job or something, they beat them and humiliated them and forced them to do things that people would find very disgusting, especially on an underage girl of 13 or 14 or so. Remember the Moscow hookers and the pee tape... now take that even further. We are talking about very rough sex and crying / screaming young girls... just getting a hand-job from an underage partner is rape... but taking it to forcible rape, beatings, whippings, maybe to the point of blood and possible broken bones... and maybe even past that with some the the hundreds to thousands of eastern European / Asian girls that were trafficked by Epstein and Maxwell, it would not surprise me that possibly one or more vanished when one of these monsters that think they are above the law unleashed their full depravity on one of the unfortunate girls ( or boys, but I think Jeffery was only into young girls ).
now who was Epstein's best friend, who thinks he can jut "grab them by the pussy", who had a teenage talent show where he could walk around into dressing rooms without anyone stopping him, who had a modeling agency that imported young girls from Eastern Europe, who had a "thing" for Eastern Slavic women ( so much that he married two of them )?
And one girl told a story ( and then disappeared ) about that same person violently raping her when she was one of Epstein's girls...
And then there is the birthday card that hints at a confession to all of this... secrets indeed.
and Epstein would have had multiple videos of each and every rape / beating / assault / humiliation. Probably from multiple angles and he probably made multiple copies...
ColoringFool
(203 posts)Monica was an adult, age 23. Willing, by some reports eager.
But more to the point, President Clinton was not convicted.
Not exactly the outcome to be wished for Trump.
mn9driver
(4,815 posts)It has become obvious that they contain absolutely damning evidence against Trump.
Hotler
(13,719 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,156 posts)and gets millions in 'donations' from many. If the files are wide open, Donald loses EVERYTHING and is left with no power but a lot of indictments still to face. President Out On Bail is fucked.
purr-rat beauty
(945 posts)It's a circular blackmail ring
Emile
(40,335 posts)Clouds Passing
(6,850 posts)WestMichRad
(2,889 posts)pedophilia and sex trafficking have been normalized.
Or when they can replace every single Repuke and billionaire donor named with Democratic names.
FakeNoose
(40,015 posts)They have scoured the Epstein files backwards and forwards, and they can't find a single D name in there. That's why they haven't been released, and why it's kept hushed up. Somebody call Ken Starr ... oh that's right, he's dead.
babylonsister
(172,551 posts)I think there are a lot more rethugs named, some high rollers, and the mango, the one who is in it up to his eyeballs.
twodogsbarking
(17,499 posts)Fil1957
(506 posts)ChicagoTeamster
(382 posts)Kevin McCarthy said Trump was on Putin's payroll along with other Republicans . Release everything from the Epstein files and Mueller investigation. What are these MAGA morons afraid of? Trump couldn't possibly have anything to blackmail them with .
YodaMom2
(148 posts)We all know tRump himself is compromised and that Putin has so much dirt on him Russia could build their own tRump hillock. But youve gotta assume they have similar dirt on *numerous* US Congress members, especially anyone who traveled to Russia for any reason (they spy on virtually everyone).
Given that the Epstein operations major source of money is widely believed to have come from laundering money for Russian oligarchs and the Russian mob (I know, thats redundant), they would have motive to share some of their dirt with Mango Mussolini so he can use it to keep them in line and continuing to stall and impede on his/their behalf.
ChicagoTeamster
(382 posts)I'm sure there are many compromised Republicans. Madison Cawthorne and George Santos were among the newest, others like former Congressman Dana Rohrabacher go way back.
ColoringFool
(203 posts)A Trump son even stated that fact outright (well, he might have omitted the word "mob" ).
The EF contain damning evidence of BOTH PEDOPHILIA AND TREASON by Trump.
Remember: He's a textbook Projection case. And just this week he accused Pres. Obama of treason.
Martin68
(26,947 posts)sop
(17,294 posts)If pictures with naked underage girls doesn't break Trump's back, nothing will.
CaptainTruth
(8,026 posts)Force GOP members of Congress to vote to protect a pedophile.
That should win over a lot of voters. [sarcasm]
Kablooie
(19,032 posts)If strong evidence came out that Trump raped children we will hear plenty of excuses why raping children isnt so bad.
Ol Janx Spirit
(614 posts)Upthevibe
(9,999 posts)Doodley
(11,576 posts)will blame Democrats for creating fakes and MAGA will be furious with Democrats, not Trump . As long as Trump is deporting immigrants and being racist, they will worship him.
Moostache
(10,958 posts)Let him die believing that he successfully dodged accountability. Once he is dead, the tell-all books and accounts will sprout like weeds and sully his (already) worthless reputation in the history books as a hateful, incompetent pedo/sex criminal and he will be reviled and the "Trump" name soiled for the next 7 generations.
He thinks in one-day intervals. His legacy is fouled beyond repair already, and these sexual deviant acts with Epstein will eventually be just as known as his sexual assaults and lying and cheating life. He is the very lowest humanity can sink to in pursuit of fame and attention seeking. But in death, he will be brutalized like no one since Nero or Idi Amin perhaps?
MichMan
(16,546 posts)As an October surprise
ColoringFool
(203 posts)Taking "the high road."
Protecting some Democrats.
Having a misguided notion of National Security.
MichMan
(16,546 posts)We could have had President Harris
Buns_of_Fire
(18,983 posts)Well, it's giving people lots of time to speculate on what must be in them to merit the delay. The longer the wait, the more damaging the speculations become. That's what happens (ask Nixon).
In that respect, the refusal to release them may be worse politically for the Guardians Of Pedophiles. Just keep linking "Epstein" to "Trump" and/or "Republicans" at every opportunity.
usonian
(23,333 posts)And all his friends, enablers and partners in the criminal enterprise.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220735608
👆👆👆👆👆
ForgedCrank
(3,005 posts)really believe that if there were something actually tangible there, that it wouldn't have already been produced before Trump took office?
This is still nothing more than tabloid talk, just like when the Republicans were saying the same crap about various Democrats including Clinton, and all of that was BS too. We need to move on to policy, this stuff is really making us look silly. This is just Pizza-Gate reinvented.
tinrobot
(11,939 posts)Drip... drip... drip...
I sense that the dam is about to break.
FakeNoose
(40,015 posts)They're starting to realize that getting rid of him would be a good thing. Even a GREAT thing.
surfered
(11,130 posts)
viva la
(4,469 posts)He got more and more agitated and started screeching about sanctuary cities.
No one could have looked more guilty.
RockRaven
(18,628 posts)No self-awareness.
"Oh man, this is really bad for him" as if they aren't party to it because of their choice to actively cover for him.
It is really bad for YOU because YOU are engaged in hiding it.
Grins
(9,222 posts)Its Trump! A barrel of sleez with no bottom.
What I learned in the Army: When they say things are bad - THEYRE WORSE!!
Ocelot II
(128,853 posts)Or boys?
Iggo
(49,591 posts)Ocelot II
(128,853 posts)republianmushroom
(22,122 posts)democrank
(12,068 posts)they still refuse to take action. Protecting the Grand Old Party is of utmost importance as is protecting their members who abuse children. Anything goes .Nazis, child groomers, insurrectionists, white nationalists, and a whole lot more. They are a disgusting group of people who have abandoned all principles of decency.
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Blue Owl
(58,124 posts)In terms of the seriousness-to-media coverage ratio is absolutely ridiculous and should destroy any thinking persons trust in the corporate mainstream media.
Hekate
(100,131 posts)Hassler
(4,742 posts)C Moon
(13,429 posts)But if they cant see that, so be it.
spanone
(140,922 posts)GUILTY AS HELL
AN INNOCENT MAN WOULD INSIST ON RELEASING THEM
SamuelTheThird
(560 posts)He has had a big come-down in his journalistic career.
Coldwater
(836 posts)
bagimin
(1,659 posts)SHOCKED, SHOCKED, I tell you.
Ping Tung
(4,121 posts)They won't be boasting about their attachments to Trump and MAGA.