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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(13,510 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 08:31 AM Nov 2025

GOP members say Epstein files are bad for Trump

David Shuster on X: "A few GOP house members say they’ve heard from FBI/DOJ contacts that the Epstein files (with copies in different agencies) are worse than Michael Wolff’s description of Epstein photos showingTrump with half naked teenage girls. Speculation/rumors sweeping through GOP caucus. 1/" / X


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GOP members say Epstein files are bad for Trump (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 2025 OP
Keep the drumbeats going! Easterncedar Nov 2025 #1
Evading Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #58
No sh!t. C_U_L8R Nov 2025 #2
You would think that a man PatSeg Nov 2025 #20
He was existentially motivated to seize the Presidency. C_U_L8R Nov 2025 #27
Yes, that is true PatSeg Nov 2025 #30
pedophiles are not treated nicely in prison RainCaster Nov 2025 #31
Apparently a lot of criminals PatSeg Nov 2025 #32
Well, he pretty much have gotten away with zorbasd Nov 2025 #35
I know and that still blows my mind PatSeg Nov 2025 #38
Think about this misanthrope Nov 2025 #78
Has it ever mattered? SergeStorms Nov 2025 #50
they will happily offer their daughters for his use. rampartd Nov 2025 #59
Probably PatSeg Nov 2025 #62
Sadly, that is true PatSeg Nov 2025 #61
Diaper 3auld6phart Nov 2025 #77
I am sure the Epstein Pals PatSeg Nov 2025 #86
Release the goddamned files. Preferably today. (nt) Paladin Nov 2025 #3
also, the nmot swearing in of a new congress critter who said they wou d vote for a file release. AllaN01Bear Nov 2025 #12
Gee. That would explain the shutdown. Kid Berwyn Nov 2025 #4
That "doodle" UpInArms Nov 2025 #5
You mean that doodle that was "planted into" Epstein's birthday book that was put together by Maxwell Botany Nov 2025 #13
Deep state playing the long game IronLionZion Nov 2025 #29
We dare not tell "them" we have the power of time travel. Botany Nov 2025 #40
SHhhhhhhhhh!!! electric_blue68 Nov 2025 #67
+1 dalton99a Nov 2025 #9
Its really going to hurt his legacey when the Epstein Ballroom is finished Historic NY Nov 2025 #6
Kick dalton99a Nov 2025 #7
Duh.......... Lovie777 Nov 2025 #8
No lie irisblue Nov 2025 #10
Will Johnson convene the House after Sherrill leaves? Raven123 Nov 2025 #11
There's also a TN seat in December leftstreet Nov 2025 #43
Hmmm. Of course. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #73
They know it and we know it FakeNoose Nov 2025 #14
The Epstein Files will be the blue semen-stained GAP dress. sop Nov 2025 #26
I am certain that good ol jeffrey was blackmailing millionaires and billionaires lapfog_1 Nov 2025 #80
They Had Better Be A Helluva Lot Worse ColoringFool Nov 2025 #81
The amount of damage by NOT releasing them is huge. mn9driver Nov 2025 #15
And a lot of orher people. nt Hotler Nov 2025 #16
Damning info on others in the file is one way Trump controls so many others Attilatheblond Nov 2025 #24
Bingo! purr-rat beauty Nov 2025 #47
Mike Johnson protector of pedophiles. Emile Nov 2025 #17
Dumpy's addiction to secrets is a high that supersedes all his other addictions Clouds Passing Nov 2025 #18
They'll release the files only when... WestMichRad Nov 2025 #19
If there were ONE Democrat in those secret files, it would have been released already FakeNoose Nov 2025 #66
I would imagine a Dem or three might be involved. babylonsister Nov 2025 #72
I'll take "the rapist" for $200 Alex. twodogsbarking Nov 2025 #21
Wow! I had no idea! Fil1957 Nov 2025 #22
Then why aren't they turning on him and releasing everything they know? Not just Epstein but everything. ChicagoTeamster Nov 2025 #23
I wouldn't be too sure about tRump not having any blackmail on them. YodaMom2 Nov 2025 #42
I was being sarcastic. I tried to put a sarcasm tag in angle brackets but it didn't show. New to posting. ChicagoTeamster Nov 2025 #49
TRUMP'S "major source of money....mob" is equally true. ColoringFool Nov 2025 #82
Of all things, it could be the Epstein scandal that breaks Trump's back. Martin68 Nov 2025 #25
I hope you're right. sop Nov 2025 #28
Seems like reason for impeachment once we take the House. CaptainTruth Nov 2025 #33
I still expect that ... Kablooie Nov 2025 #34
It's in the Bible somewhere.... N/T Ol Janx Spirit Nov 2025 #46
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Nov 2025 #36
Don't hold your breath. The files will probably never be released, if they still exist. If they are released, Trump Doodley Nov 2025 #37
At thiss point I no longer really care about the Trumpstein files... Moostache Nov 2025 #39
I will never understand why the Biden/Harris administration didn't release them MichMan Nov 2025 #41
I Can Think Of Some Reasons ColoringFool Nov 2025 #83
How did that work out? MichMan Nov 2025 #85
And if they're *never* released (which is what I suspect will happen)? Buns_of_Fire Nov 2025 #44
Even if there are no sex crimes described (and no doubt, they are. The guy has no discretion) then his empire is gone. usonian Nov 2025 #45
Do we ForgedCrank Nov 2025 #48
Interesting that it's GOP House members who are leaking this... tinrobot Nov 2025 #51
I think a lot of them are disgusted by Chump FakeNoose Nov 2025 #70
If the Epstein files exonerated Trump, they would have already been released surfered Nov 2025 #52
Kash Patel refused to answer Swallwell about whether he told Bondi Trump was in the files. viva la Nov 2025 #53
They say that... AND THEY ARE ACTIVELY COVERING IT UP. RockRaven Nov 2025 #54
"...worse than Trump with half naked teenage girls." OF COURSE IT'S WORSE! Grins Nov 2025 #55
How about completely naked teenage girls? Ocelot II Nov 2025 #60
Children are children. Iggo Nov 2025 #75
Yes, they are. Ocelot II Nov 2025 #76
How young Putin ? republianmushroom Nov 2025 #56
Even though some GOP House members know this truth about Trump democrank Nov 2025 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author ificandream Nov 2025 #63
The difference between Clinton's Lewinsky scandal and tRump's Epstein scandal Blue Owl Nov 2025 #64
Well in that case: EPSTEIN! MAXWELL! TRUMP! Hekate Nov 2025 #65
Maga Mike is the Gym Jordan of House Speakers Hassler Nov 2025 #68
Well it appears to me that trump is bad for the gop. C Moon Nov 2025 #69
Of course they are, that's why he's done everything possible to distract. spanone Nov 2025 #71
Not sure how reliable Shuster is SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #74
The Epstein Card Coldwater Nov 2025 #79
I am bagimin Nov 2025 #84
They're not as worried about Trump as they are about their own asses when he crumbles. Ping Tung Nov 2025 #87
Bad for Trump. Not that Trump is bad lame54 Nov 2025 #88

C_U_L8R

(49,144 posts)
2. No sh!t.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 08:39 AM
Nov 2025

Trump knows that if he could hide his taxes for this long, he can surely keep his Epstein child sex crime evidence buried.

PatSeg

(52,675 posts)
20. You would think that a man
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:10 AM
Nov 2025

who has SO MANY awful secrets would keep more of a low profile. If a person is trying to hide something(s), politics is probably the worst career choice he/she could make. By running for national office, Trump was just asking to be exposed, though I am surprised he ever got as far as he did.

Of course, Trump is both arrogant and naive enough to think he can get away with such crap.

PatSeg

(52,675 posts)
38. I know and that still blows my mind
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:12 AM
Nov 2025

Meanwhile, the things he did over the years were public knowledge, yet he still got away with it.

misanthrope

(9,432 posts)
78. Think about this
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:25 PM
Nov 2025

How many other rotten humans are there out there with access to near-comparable wealth and power who have gotten away with similar because they were smart enough not to draw attention to themself in the same way as Trump did?

While the world contains stupefying wonder and beauty there is also a heap of heartbreaking awfulness in it.

PatSeg

(52,675 posts)
61. Sadly, that is true
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 02:05 PM
Nov 2025

I remember lots of exposes on Trump back in 2016 and throughout his first term. Just one or two of those scandals would have destroyed anyone else's career in a heartbeat, but it all just slides off his fat back. They decided early on that he was their guy and refused to listen to any well documented information on the man or as you say, they just don't care.

Ah but now his bullshit policies are hurting them personally, not just those they hate. Maybe he's not so great after all?

3auld6phart

(1,683 posts)
77. Diaper
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:55 PM
Nov 2025

Don is not a wise man. The Guardians Of Pedo party will cover for him and many others that are on the Epstein files..

UpInArms

(54,511 posts)
5. That "doodle"
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 08:46 AM
Nov 2025

is disgustingly and revolting … and exposes so much darkness

Evil inhabits our country’s highest office

Botany

(76,780 posts)
13. You mean that doodle that was "planted into" Epstein's birthday book that was put together by Maxwell
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 09:30 AM
Nov 2025

….. 22 years ago just to make Trump look bad in 2025.

Wonderful Secrets

Botany

(76,780 posts)
40. We dare not tell "them" we have the power of time travel.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:13 AM
Nov 2025

After all that was how Barack Obama was able to go back in time to plant his birth announcement
in 3 different Hawaiian newspapers.

leftstreet

(39,604 posts)
43. There's also a TN seat in December
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:37 AM
Nov 2025

I don't know if it leans D or R

But yeah Johnson will be playing Musical Chairs

FakeNoose

(40,837 posts)
14. They know it and we know it
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 09:32 AM
Nov 2025

Nobody's fooling anybody. Let's get this out in the open.

Remember when Bill Clinton got a blowjob in the White House? Remember when we all had to hear the nasty details, no matter who got embarrassed. How is this any different?


lapfog_1

(31,806 posts)
80. I am certain that good ol jeffrey was blackmailing millionaires and billionaires
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 02:14 AM
Nov 2025

by getting them to engage him as their financial advisor... and then skimming the money deposited with him as "fees" ( thus hiding the blackmail as legitimate services, paying taxes on the blackmail money.

The disturbing thing is that the description of what these men did to the young girls... they didn't just have sex or get a hand-job or something, they beat them and humiliated them and forced them to do things that people would find very disgusting, especially on an underage girl of 13 or 14 or so. Remember the Moscow hookers and the pee tape... now take that even further. We are talking about very rough sex and crying / screaming young girls... just getting a hand-job from an underage partner is rape... but taking it to forcible rape, beatings, whippings, maybe to the point of blood and possible broken bones... and maybe even past that with some the the hundreds to thousands of eastern European / Asian girls that were trafficked by Epstein and Maxwell, it would not surprise me that possibly one or more vanished when one of these monsters that think they are above the law unleashed their full depravity on one of the unfortunate girls ( or boys, but I think Jeffery was only into young girls ).

now who was Epstein's best friend, who thinks he can jut "grab them by the pussy", who had a teenage talent show where he could walk around into dressing rooms without anyone stopping him, who had a modeling agency that imported young girls from Eastern Europe, who had a "thing" for Eastern Slavic women ( so much that he married two of them )?

And one girl told a story ( and then disappeared ) about that same person violently raping her when she was one of Epstein's girls...

And then there is the birthday card that hints at a confession to all of this... secrets indeed.

and Epstein would have had multiple videos of each and every rape / beating / assault / humiliation. Probably from multiple angles and he probably made multiple copies...

ColoringFool

(458 posts)
81. They Had Better Be A Helluva Lot Worse
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 04:47 AM
Nov 2025

Monica was an adult, age 23. Willing, by some reports eager.

But more to the point, President Clinton was not convicted.

Not exactly the outcome to be wished for Trump.

mn9driver

(4,836 posts)
15. The amount of damage by NOT releasing them is huge.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 09:38 AM
Nov 2025

It has become obvious that they contain absolutely damning evidence against Trump.

Attilatheblond

(8,546 posts)
24. Damning info on others in the file is one way Trump controls so many others
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:30 AM
Nov 2025

and gets millions in 'donations' from many. If the files are wide open, Donald loses EVERYTHING and is left with no power but a lot of indictments still to face. President Out On Bail is fucked.

WestMichRad

(3,088 posts)
19. They'll release the files only when...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:07 AM
Nov 2025

pedophilia and sex trafficking have been normalized.
Or when they can replace every single Repuke and billionaire donor named with Democratic names.

FakeNoose

(40,837 posts)
66. If there were ONE Democrat in those secret files, it would have been released already
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 05:42 PM
Nov 2025

They have scoured the Epstein files backwards and forwards, and they can't find a single D name in there. That's why they haven't been released, and why it's kept hushed up. Somebody call Ken Starr ... oh that's right, he's dead.

babylonsister

(172,671 posts)
72. I would imagine a Dem or three might be involved.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 08:23 PM
Nov 2025

I think there are a lot more rethugs named, some high rollers, and the mango, the one who is in it up to his eyeballs.

ChicagoTeamster

(630 posts)
23. Then why aren't they turning on him and releasing everything they know? Not just Epstein but everything.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:25 AM
Nov 2025

Kevin McCarthy said Trump was on Putin's payroll along with other Republicans . Release everything from the Epstein files and Mueller investigation. What are these MAGA morons afraid of? Trump couldn't possibly have anything to blackmail them with .

YodaMom2

(161 posts)
42. I wouldn't be too sure about tRump not having any blackmail on them.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:37 AM
Nov 2025

We all know tRump himself is compromised and that Putin has so much dirt on him Russia could build their own tRump hillock. But you’ve gotta assume they have similar dirt on *numerous* US Congress members, especially anyone who traveled to Russia for any reason (they spy on virtually everyone).

Given that the Epstein operation’s major source of money is widely believed to have come from laundering money for Russian oligarchs and the Russian mob (I know, that’s redundant), they would have motive to share some of their dirt with Mango Mussolini so he can use it to keep them in line and continuing to stall and impede on his/their behalf.

ChicagoTeamster

(630 posts)
49. I was being sarcastic. I tried to put a sarcasm tag in angle brackets but it didn't show. New to posting.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:34 PM
Nov 2025

I'm sure there are many compromised Republicans. Madison Cawthorne and George Santos were among the newest, others like former Congressman Dana Rohrabacher go way back.

ColoringFool

(458 posts)
82. TRUMP'S "major source of money....mob" is equally true.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 04:55 AM
Nov 2025

A Trump son even stated that fact outright (well, he might have omitted the word "mob" ).

The EF contain damning evidence of BOTH PEDOPHILIA AND TREASON by Trump.

Remember: He's a textbook Projection case. And just this week he accused Pres. Obama of treason.

CaptainTruth

(8,104 posts)
33. Seems like reason for impeachment once we take the House.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:05 AM
Nov 2025

Force GOP members of Congress to vote to protect a pedophile.

That should win over a lot of voters. [sarcasm]

Kablooie

(19,076 posts)
34. I still expect that ...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:05 AM
Nov 2025

If strong evidence came out that Trump raped children we will hear plenty of excuses why raping children isn’t so bad.

Doodley

(11,789 posts)
37. Don't hold your breath. The files will probably never be released, if they still exist. If they are released, Trump
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:11 AM
Nov 2025

will blame Democrats for creating fakes and MAGA will be furious with Democrats, not Trump . As long as Trump is deporting immigrants and being racist, they will worship him.

Moostache

(11,128 posts)
39. At thiss point I no longer really care about the Trumpstein files...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:13 AM
Nov 2025

Let him die believing that he successfully dodged accountability. Once he is dead, the tell-all books and accounts will sprout like weeds and sully his (already) worthless reputation in the history books as a hateful, incompetent pedo/sex criminal and he will be reviled and the "Trump" name soiled for the next 7 generations.

He thinks in one-day intervals. His legacy is fouled beyond repair already, and these sexual deviant acts with Epstein will eventually be just as known as his sexual assaults and lying and cheating life. He is the very lowest humanity can sink to in pursuit of fame and attention seeking. But in death, he will be brutalized like no one since Nero or Idi Amin perhaps?

ColoringFool

(458 posts)
83. I Can Think Of Some Reasons
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 05:00 AM
Nov 2025

Taking "the high road."

Protecting some Democrats.

Having a misguided notion of National Security.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,061 posts)
44. And if they're *never* released (which is what I suspect will happen)?
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:53 AM
Nov 2025

Well, it's giving people lots of time to speculate on what must be in them to merit the delay. The longer the wait, the more damaging the speculations become. That's what happens (ask Nixon).

In that respect, the refusal to release them may be worse politically for the Guardians Of Pedophiles. Just keep linking "Epstein" to "Trump" and/or "Republicans" at every opportunity.

usonian

(24,203 posts)
45. Even if there are no sex crimes described (and no doubt, they are. The guy has no discretion) then his empire is gone.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:10 PM
Nov 2025

And all his friends, enablers and partners in the criminal enterprise.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220735608

👆👆👆👆👆

ForgedCrank

(3,048 posts)
48. Do we
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:31 PM
Nov 2025

really believe that if there were something actually tangible there, that it wouldn't have already been produced before Trump took office?
This is still nothing more than tabloid talk, just like when the Republicans were saying the same crap about various Democrats including Clinton, and all of that was BS too. We need to move on to policy, this stuff is really making us look silly. This is just Pizza-Gate reinvented.

tinrobot

(12,001 posts)
51. Interesting that it's GOP House members who are leaking this...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:47 PM
Nov 2025

Drip... drip... drip...

I sense that the dam is about to break.

FakeNoose

(40,837 posts)
70. I think a lot of them are disgusted by Chump
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 07:04 PM
Nov 2025

They're starting to realize that getting rid of him would be a good thing. Even a GREAT thing.

viva la

(4,553 posts)
53. Kash Patel refused to answer Swallwell about whether he told Bondi Trump was in the files.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:50 PM
Nov 2025

He got more and more agitated and started screeching about sanctuary cities.
No one could have looked more guilty.

RockRaven

(18,980 posts)
54. They say that... AND THEY ARE ACTIVELY COVERING IT UP.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:56 PM
Nov 2025

No self-awareness.

"Oh man, this is really bad for him" as if they aren't party to it because of their choice to actively cover for him.

It is really bad for YOU because YOU are engaged in hiding it.

Grins

(9,347 posts)
55. "...worse than Trump with half naked teenage girls." OF COURSE IT'S WORSE!
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 01:01 PM
Nov 2025

It’s Trump! A barrel of sleez with no bottom.

What I learned in the Army: “When they say things are bad - THEY’RE WORSE!!”

democrank

(12,432 posts)
57. Even though some GOP House members know this truth about Trump
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 01:17 PM
Nov 2025

they still refuse to take action. Protecting the Grand Old Party is of utmost importance as is protecting their members who abuse children. Anything goes….Nazis, child groomers, insurrectionists, white nationalists, and a whole lot more. They are a disgusting group of people who have abandoned all principles of decency.

Response to BlueWaveNeverEnd (Original post)

Blue Owl

(58,634 posts)
64. The difference between Clinton's Lewinsky scandal and tRump's Epstein scandal
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 03:12 PM
Nov 2025

In terms of the seriousness-to-media coverage ratio is absolutely ridiculous and should destroy any thinking person’s trust in the corporate mainstream media.

spanone

(141,236 posts)
71. Of course they are, that's why he's done everything possible to distract.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 07:09 PM
Nov 2025

GUILTY AS HELL

AN INNOCENT MAN WOULD INSIST ON RELEASING THEM

Ping Tung

(4,258 posts)
87. They're not as worried about Trump as they are about their own asses when he crumbles.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 11:58 AM
Nov 2025

They won't be boasting about their attachments to Trump and MAGA.

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