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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(12,669 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 08:31 AM Nov 6

GOP members say Epstein files are bad for Trump

David Shuster on X: "A few GOP house members say they’ve heard from FBI/DOJ contacts that the Epstein files (with copies in different agencies) are worse than Michael Wolff’s description of Epstein photos showingTrump with half naked teenage girls. Speculation/rumors sweeping through GOP caucus. 1/" / X


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GOP members say Epstein files are bad for Trump (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 6 OP
Keep the drumbeats going! Easterncedar Nov 6 #1
Evading Bernardo de La Paz Nov 6 #58
No sh!t. C_U_L8R Nov 6 #2
You would think that a man PatSeg Nov 6 #20
He was existentially motivated to seize the Presidency. C_U_L8R Nov 6 #27
Yes, that is true PatSeg Nov 6 #30
pedophiles are not treated nicely in prison RainCaster Nov 6 #31
Apparently a lot of criminals PatSeg Nov 6 #32
Well, he pretty much have gotten away with zorbasd Nov 6 #35
I know and that still blows my mind PatSeg Nov 6 #38
Think about this misanthrope Nov 6 #78
Has it ever mattered? SergeStorms Nov 6 #50
they will happily offer their daughters for his use. rampartd Nov 6 #59
Probably PatSeg Nov 6 #62
Sadly, that is true PatSeg Nov 6 #61
Diaper 3auld6phart Nov 6 #77
I am sure the Epstein Pals PatSeg Nov 7 #86
Release the goddamned files. Preferably today. (nt) Paladin Nov 6 #3
also, the nmot swearing in of a new congress critter who said they wou d vote for a file release. AllaN01Bear Nov 6 #12
Gee. That would explain the shutdown. Kid Berwyn Nov 6 #4
That "doodle" UpInArms Nov 6 #5
You mean that doodle that was "planted into" Epstein's birthday book that was put together by Maxwell Botany Nov 6 #13
Deep state playing the long game IronLionZion Nov 6 #29
We dare not tell "them" we have the power of time travel. Botany Nov 6 #40
SHhhhhhhhhh!!! electric_blue68 Nov 6 #67
+1 dalton99a Nov 6 #9
Its really going to hurt his legacey when the Epstein Ballroom is finished Historic NY Nov 6 #6
Kick dalton99a Nov 6 #7
Duh.......... Lovie777 Nov 6 #8
No lie irisblue Nov 6 #10
Will Johnson convene the House after Sherrill leaves? Raven123 Nov 6 #11
There's also a TN seat in December leftstreet Nov 6 #43
Hmmm. Of course. yellow dahlia Nov 6 #73
They know it and we know it FakeNoose Nov 6 #14
The Epstein Files will be the blue semen-stained GAP dress. sop Nov 6 #26
I am certain that good ol jeffrey was blackmailing millionaires and billionaires lapfog_1 Nov 7 #80
They Had Better Be A Helluva Lot Worse ColoringFool Nov 7 #81
The amount of damage by NOT releasing them is huge. mn9driver Nov 6 #15
And a lot of orher people. nt Hotler Nov 6 #16
Damning info on others in the file is one way Trump controls so many others Attilatheblond Nov 6 #24
Bingo! purr-rat beauty Nov 6 #47
Mike Johnson protector of pedophiles. Emile Nov 6 #17
Dumpy's addiction to secrets is a high that supersedes all his other addictions Clouds Passing Nov 6 #18
They'll release the files only when... WestMichRad Nov 6 #19
If there were ONE Democrat in those secret files, it would have been released already FakeNoose Nov 6 #66
I would imagine a Dem or three might be involved. babylonsister Nov 6 #72
I'll take "the rapist" for $200 Alex. twodogsbarking Nov 6 #21
Wow! I had no idea! Fil1957 Nov 6 #22
Then why aren't they turning on him and releasing everything they know? Not just Epstein but everything. ChicagoTeamster Nov 6 #23
I wouldn't be too sure about tRump not having any blackmail on them. YodaMom2 Nov 6 #42
I was being sarcastic. I tried to put a sarcasm tag in angle brackets but it didn't show. New to posting. ChicagoTeamster Nov 6 #49
TRUMP'S "major source of money....mob" is equally true. ColoringFool Nov 7 #82
Of all things, it could be the Epstein scandal that breaks Trump's back. Martin68 Nov 6 #25
I hope you're right. sop Nov 6 #28
Seems like reason for impeachment once we take the House. CaptainTruth Nov 6 #33
I still expect that ... Kablooie Nov 6 #34
It's in the Bible somewhere.... N/T Ol Janx Spirit Nov 6 #46
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Nov 6 #36
Don't hold your breath. The files will probably never be released, if they still exist. If they are released, Trump Doodley Nov 6 #37
At thiss point I no longer really care about the Trumpstein files... Moostache Nov 6 #39
I will never understand why the Biden/Harris administration didn't release them MichMan Nov 6 #41
I Can Think Of Some Reasons ColoringFool Nov 7 #83
How did that work out? MichMan Nov 7 #85
And if they're *never* released (which is what I suspect will happen)? Buns_of_Fire Nov 6 #44
Even if there are no sex crimes described (and no doubt, they are. The guy has no discretion) then his empire is gone. usonian Nov 6 #45
Do we ForgedCrank Nov 6 #48
Interesting that it's GOP House members who are leaking this... tinrobot Nov 6 #51
I think a lot of them are disgusted by Chump FakeNoose Nov 6 #70
If the Epstein files exonerated Trump, they would have already been released surfered Nov 6 #52
Kash Patel refused to answer Swallwell about whether he told Bondi Trump was in the files. viva la Nov 6 #53
They say that... AND THEY ARE ACTIVELY COVERING IT UP. RockRaven Nov 6 #54
"...worse than Trump with half naked teenage girls." OF COURSE IT'S WORSE! Grins Nov 6 #55
How about completely naked teenage girls? Ocelot II Nov 6 #60
Children are children. Iggo Nov 6 #75
Yes, they are. Ocelot II Nov 6 #76
How young Putin ? republianmushroom Nov 6 #56
Even though some GOP House members know this truth about Trump democrank Nov 6 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author ificandream Nov 6 #63
The difference between Clinton's Lewinsky scandal and tRump's Epstein scandal Blue Owl Nov 6 #64
Well in that case: EPSTEIN! MAXWELL! TRUMP! Hekate Nov 6 #65
Maga Mike is the Gym Jordan of House Speakers Hassler Nov 6 #68
Well it appears to me that trump is bad for the gop. C Moon Nov 6 #69
Of course they are, that's why he's done everything possible to distract. spanone Nov 6 #71
Not sure how reliable Shuster is SamuelTheThird Nov 6 #74
The Epstein Card Coldwater Nov 6 #79
I am bagimin Nov 7 #84
They're not as worried about Trump as they are about their own asses when he crumbles. Ping Tung Nov 8 #87
Bad for Trump. Not that Trump is bad lame54 Nov 8 #88

C_U_L8R

(48,796 posts)
2. No sh!t.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 08:39 AM
Nov 6

Trump knows that if he could hide his taxes for this long, he can surely keep his Epstein child sex crime evidence buried.

PatSeg

(51,976 posts)
20. You would think that a man
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:10 AM
Nov 6

who has SO MANY awful secrets would keep more of a low profile. If a person is trying to hide something(s), politics is probably the worst career choice he/she could make. By running for national office, Trump was just asking to be exposed, though I am surprised he ever got as far as he did.

Of course, Trump is both arrogant and naive enough to think he can get away with such crap.

PatSeg

(51,976 posts)
30. Yes, that is true
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:55 AM
Nov 6

He was really scared of prison, though clearly he loves having so much power as well.

RainCaster

(13,372 posts)
31. pedophiles are not treated nicely in prison
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:01 AM
Nov 6

Even criminals have a sense of honor when it comes to children.

PatSeg

(51,976 posts)
32. Apparently a lot of criminals
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:04 AM
Nov 6

were victims of child abuse and have no sympathy for abusers.

zorbasd

(512 posts)
35. Well, he pretty much have gotten away with
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:05 AM
Nov 6

everything he has done all his life, with very little repricusions.

PatSeg

(51,976 posts)
38. I know and that still blows my mind
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:12 AM
Nov 6

Meanwhile, the things he did over the years were public knowledge, yet he still got away with it.

misanthrope

(9,349 posts)
78. Think about this
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:25 PM
Nov 6

How many other rotten humans are there out there with access to near-comparable wealth and power who have gotten away with similar because they were smart enough not to draw attention to themself in the same way as Trump did?

While the world contains stupefying wonder and beauty there is also a heap of heartbreaking awfulness in it.

SergeStorms

(19,906 posts)
50. Has it ever mattered?
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:43 PM
Nov 6

His cult doesn't seem to care what he does just as long as he hates like they hate.

PatSeg

(51,976 posts)
61. Sadly, that is true
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 02:05 PM
Nov 6

I remember lots of exposes on Trump back in 2016 and throughout his first term. Just one or two of those scandals would have destroyed anyone else's career in a heartbeat, but it all just slides off his fat back. They decided early on that he was their guy and refused to listen to any well documented information on the man or as you say, they just don't care.

Ah but now his bullshit policies are hurting them personally, not just those they hate. Maybe he's not so great after all?

3auld6phart

(1,669 posts)
77. Diaper
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:55 PM
Nov 6

Don is not a wise man. The Guardians Of Pedo party will cover for him and many others that are on the Epstein files..

PatSeg

(51,976 posts)
86. I am sure the Epstein Pals
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 09:46 AM
Nov 7

stick together and protect one another. Kind of like a fraternity.

AllaN01Bear

(28,492 posts)
12. also, the nmot swearing in of a new congress critter who said they wou d vote for a file release.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 09:27 AM
Nov 6

UpInArms

(53,963 posts)
5. That "doodle"
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 08:46 AM
Nov 6

is disgustingly and revolting … and exposes so much darkness

Evil inhabits our country’s highest office

Botany

(76,264 posts)
13. You mean that doodle that was "planted into" Epstein's birthday book that was put together by Maxwell
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 09:30 AM
Nov 6

….. 22 years ago just to make Trump look bad in 2025.

Wonderful Secrets

Botany

(76,264 posts)
40. We dare not tell "them" we have the power of time travel.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:13 AM
Nov 6

After all that was how Barack Obama was able to go back in time to plant his birth announcement
in 3 different Hawaiian newspapers.

Raven123

(7,472 posts)
11. Will Johnson convene the House after Sherrill leaves?
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 09:16 AM
Nov 6

And adjourn before her replacement is elected?

leftstreet

(38,739 posts)
43. There's also a TN seat in December
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:37 AM
Nov 6

I don't know if it leans D or R

But yeah Johnson will be playing Musical Chairs

FakeNoose

(40,015 posts)
14. They know it and we know it
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 09:32 AM
Nov 6

Nobody's fooling anybody. Let's get this out in the open.

Remember when Bill Clinton got a blowjob in the White House? Remember when we all had to hear the nasty details, no matter who got embarrassed. How is this any different?


lapfog_1

(31,574 posts)
80. I am certain that good ol jeffrey was blackmailing millionaires and billionaires
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 02:14 AM
Nov 7

by getting them to engage him as their financial advisor... and then skimming the money deposited with him as "fees" ( thus hiding the blackmail as legitimate services, paying taxes on the blackmail money.

The disturbing thing is that the description of what these men did to the young girls... they didn't just have sex or get a hand-job or something, they beat them and humiliated them and forced them to do things that people would find very disgusting, especially on an underage girl of 13 or 14 or so. Remember the Moscow hookers and the pee tape... now take that even further. We are talking about very rough sex and crying / screaming young girls... just getting a hand-job from an underage partner is rape... but taking it to forcible rape, beatings, whippings, maybe to the point of blood and possible broken bones... and maybe even past that with some the the hundreds to thousands of eastern European / Asian girls that were trafficked by Epstein and Maxwell, it would not surprise me that possibly one or more vanished when one of these monsters that think they are above the law unleashed their full depravity on one of the unfortunate girls ( or boys, but I think Jeffery was only into young girls ).

now who was Epstein's best friend, who thinks he can jut "grab them by the pussy", who had a teenage talent show where he could walk around into dressing rooms without anyone stopping him, who had a modeling agency that imported young girls from Eastern Europe, who had a "thing" for Eastern Slavic women ( so much that he married two of them )?

And one girl told a story ( and then disappeared ) about that same person violently raping her when she was one of Epstein's girls...

And then there is the birthday card that hints at a confession to all of this... secrets indeed.

and Epstein would have had multiple videos of each and every rape / beating / assault / humiliation. Probably from multiple angles and he probably made multiple copies...

ColoringFool

(203 posts)
81. They Had Better Be A Helluva Lot Worse
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 04:47 AM
Nov 7

Monica was an adult, age 23. Willing, by some reports eager.

But more to the point, President Clinton was not convicted.

Not exactly the outcome to be wished for Trump.

mn9driver

(4,815 posts)
15. The amount of damage by NOT releasing them is huge.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 09:38 AM
Nov 6

It has become obvious that they contain absolutely damning evidence against Trump.

Attilatheblond

(8,156 posts)
24. Damning info on others in the file is one way Trump controls so many others
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:30 AM
Nov 6

and gets millions in 'donations' from many. If the files are wide open, Donald loses EVERYTHING and is left with no power but a lot of indictments still to face. President Out On Bail is fucked.

WestMichRad

(2,889 posts)
19. They'll release the files only when...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:07 AM
Nov 6

pedophilia and sex trafficking have been normalized.
Or when they can replace every single Repuke and billionaire donor named with Democratic names.

FakeNoose

(40,015 posts)
66. If there were ONE Democrat in those secret files, it would have been released already
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 05:42 PM
Nov 6

They have scoured the Epstein files backwards and forwards, and they can't find a single D name in there. That's why they haven't been released, and why it's kept hushed up. Somebody call Ken Starr ... oh that's right, he's dead.

babylonsister

(172,551 posts)
72. I would imagine a Dem or three might be involved.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 08:23 PM
Nov 6

I think there are a lot more rethugs named, some high rollers, and the mango, the one who is in it up to his eyeballs.

ChicagoTeamster

(382 posts)
23. Then why aren't they turning on him and releasing everything they know? Not just Epstein but everything.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:25 AM
Nov 6

Kevin McCarthy said Trump was on Putin's payroll along with other Republicans . Release everything from the Epstein files and Mueller investigation. What are these MAGA morons afraid of? Trump couldn't possibly have anything to blackmail them with .

YodaMom2

(148 posts)
42. I wouldn't be too sure about tRump not having any blackmail on them.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:37 AM
Nov 6

We all know tRump himself is compromised and that Putin has so much dirt on him Russia could build their own tRump hillock. But you’ve gotta assume they have similar dirt on *numerous* US Congress members, especially anyone who traveled to Russia for any reason (they spy on virtually everyone).

Given that the Epstein operation’s major source of money is widely believed to have come from laundering money for Russian oligarchs and the Russian mob (I know, that’s redundant), they would have motive to share some of their dirt with Mango Mussolini so he can use it to keep them in line and continuing to stall and impede on his/their behalf.

ChicagoTeamster

(382 posts)
49. I was being sarcastic. I tried to put a sarcasm tag in angle brackets but it didn't show. New to posting.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:34 PM
Nov 6

I'm sure there are many compromised Republicans. Madison Cawthorne and George Santos were among the newest, others like former Congressman Dana Rohrabacher go way back.

ColoringFool

(203 posts)
82. TRUMP'S "major source of money....mob" is equally true.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 04:55 AM
Nov 7

A Trump son even stated that fact outright (well, he might have omitted the word "mob" ).

The EF contain damning evidence of BOTH PEDOPHILIA AND TREASON by Trump.

Remember: He's a textbook Projection case. And just this week he accused Pres. Obama of treason.

sop

(17,294 posts)
28. I hope you're right.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:40 AM
Nov 6

If pictures with naked underage girls doesn't break Trump's back, nothing will.

CaptainTruth

(8,026 posts)
33. Seems like reason for impeachment once we take the House.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:05 AM
Nov 6

Force GOP members of Congress to vote to protect a pedophile.

That should win over a lot of voters. [sarcasm]

Kablooie

(19,032 posts)
34. I still expect that ...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:05 AM
Nov 6

If strong evidence came out that Trump raped children we will hear plenty of excuses why raping children isn’t so bad.

Doodley

(11,576 posts)
37. Don't hold your breath. The files will probably never be released, if they still exist. If they are released, Trump
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:11 AM
Nov 6

will blame Democrats for creating fakes and MAGA will be furious with Democrats, not Trump . As long as Trump is deporting immigrants and being racist, they will worship him.

Moostache

(10,958 posts)
39. At thiss point I no longer really care about the Trumpstein files...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:13 AM
Nov 6

Let him die believing that he successfully dodged accountability. Once he is dead, the tell-all books and accounts will sprout like weeds and sully his (already) worthless reputation in the history books as a hateful, incompetent pedo/sex criminal and he will be reviled and the "Trump" name soiled for the next 7 generations.

He thinks in one-day intervals. His legacy is fouled beyond repair already, and these sexual deviant acts with Epstein will eventually be just as known as his sexual assaults and lying and cheating life. He is the very lowest humanity can sink to in pursuit of fame and attention seeking. But in death, he will be brutalized like no one since Nero or Idi Amin perhaps?

MichMan

(16,546 posts)
41. I will never understand why the Biden/Harris administration didn't release them
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:27 AM
Nov 6

As an October surprise

ColoringFool

(203 posts)
83. I Can Think Of Some Reasons
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 05:00 AM
Nov 7

Taking "the high road."

Protecting some Democrats.

Having a misguided notion of National Security.

Buns_of_Fire

(18,983 posts)
44. And if they're *never* released (which is what I suspect will happen)?
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:53 AM
Nov 6

Well, it's giving people lots of time to speculate on what must be in them to merit the delay. The longer the wait, the more damaging the speculations become. That's what happens (ask Nixon).

In that respect, the refusal to release them may be worse politically for the Guardians Of Pedophiles. Just keep linking "Epstein" to "Trump" and/or "Republicans" at every opportunity.

usonian

(23,333 posts)
45. Even if there are no sex crimes described (and no doubt, they are. The guy has no discretion) then his empire is gone.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:10 PM
Nov 6

And all his friends, enablers and partners in the criminal enterprise.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220735608

👆👆👆👆👆

ForgedCrank

(3,005 posts)
48. Do we
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:31 PM
Nov 6

really believe that if there were something actually tangible there, that it wouldn't have already been produced before Trump took office?
This is still nothing more than tabloid talk, just like when the Republicans were saying the same crap about various Democrats including Clinton, and all of that was BS too. We need to move on to policy, this stuff is really making us look silly. This is just Pizza-Gate reinvented.

tinrobot

(11,939 posts)
51. Interesting that it's GOP House members who are leaking this...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:47 PM
Nov 6

Drip... drip... drip...

I sense that the dam is about to break.

FakeNoose

(40,015 posts)
70. I think a lot of them are disgusted by Chump
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 07:04 PM
Nov 6

They're starting to realize that getting rid of him would be a good thing. Even a GREAT thing.

viva la

(4,469 posts)
53. Kash Patel refused to answer Swallwell about whether he told Bondi Trump was in the files.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:50 PM
Nov 6

He got more and more agitated and started screeching about sanctuary cities.
No one could have looked more guilty.

RockRaven

(18,628 posts)
54. They say that... AND THEY ARE ACTIVELY COVERING IT UP.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:56 PM
Nov 6

No self-awareness.

"Oh man, this is really bad for him" as if they aren't party to it because of their choice to actively cover for him.

It is really bad for YOU because YOU are engaged in hiding it.

Grins

(9,222 posts)
55. "...worse than Trump with half naked teenage girls." OF COURSE IT'S WORSE!
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 01:01 PM
Nov 6

It’s Trump! A barrel of sleez with no bottom.

What I learned in the Army: “When they say things are bad - THEY’RE WORSE!!”

democrank

(12,068 posts)
57. Even though some GOP House members know this truth about Trump
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 01:17 PM
Nov 6

they still refuse to take action. Protecting the Grand Old Party is of utmost importance as is protecting their members who abuse children. Anything goes….Nazis, child groomers, insurrectionists, white nationalists, and a whole lot more. They are a disgusting group of people who have abandoned all principles of decency.

Response to BlueWaveNeverEnd (Original post)

Blue Owl

(58,124 posts)
64. The difference between Clinton's Lewinsky scandal and tRump's Epstein scandal
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 03:12 PM
Nov 6

In terms of the seriousness-to-media coverage ratio is absolutely ridiculous and should destroy any thinking person’s trust in the corporate mainstream media.

spanone

(140,922 posts)
71. Of course they are, that's why he's done everything possible to distract.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 07:09 PM
Nov 6

GUILTY AS HELL

AN INNOCENT MAN WOULD INSIST ON RELEASING THEM

Ping Tung

(4,121 posts)
87. They're not as worried about Trump as they are about their own asses when he crumbles.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 11:58 AM
Nov 8

They won't be boasting about their attachments to Trump and MAGA.

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