BREAKING SCHUMER IS CAVING [phone]

[orangecrush]

A handful of Senate Democrats on Sunday indicated they are ready to advance a package of bills that could end the government shutdown, multiple sources told Axios.

Why it matters: It is the most significant movement toward a bipartisan breakthrough in the talks to reopen the government in over a month.

At least 10 Senate Democrats are expected to support a procedural motion to advance a package of spending bills and a short term funding measure through the end of January, multiple sources from both parties told Axios.
The deal would include a December vote on a Democratic proposal to extend ACA tax credits for one year, multiple sources said. It would take 60 votes to pass.
It could also include some kind of language to help federal workers who have been laid off under the shutdown.

https://www.axios.com/2025/11/09/senate-deal-to-end-government-shutdown-sunday-vote

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[senseandsensibility]

1. I agree with Aaron Rupar

A promise of a vote on healthcare is nothing.

[Maru Kitteh]

75. The promise of a Republican IS nothing.

[Ms. Toad]

88. This is worse than nothing -

even if they follow through on their promise to vote, they can still vote no and not break their promise.

[Catbird]

2. Lucy will pull the ball again!

[Baitball Blogger]

17. Is there any way to remove Schumer from his position of power if Lucy pulls the ball?

This is exactly the reason why no one is showing much sorrow for Pelosi's announcement of retirement. It will be worse for Schumer.

[tritsofme]

18. He serves at the pleasure of the Democratic caucus.

He could be sacked this afternoon, it’s just that no members are interested in such a thing.

He was reelected unanimously.

[Shipwack]

90. Schumer is doing what he was elected to do.

Preserve the status quo for Third Way Democrats and centrists.

No rocking the boat.

No push for progressive policies.

Fight a little, but not so hard that you win.

Don’t fire up the base, piss on progressives, don’t challenge the Right.

[LonePirate]

28. AOC for Senate 2026. She would have some backbone here.

[mcar]

4. Article says 10 Senate Democrats

Why do you lead with "Schumer is caving?"

[Samael13]

7. Because threats no way in hell they'd do it without his approval

[mcar]

9. Hmm. Except no. This appears to be more MSM bullshit

Yeah, despite the rumblings from other reporters this still feels like another bit of Axios wishcasting.

What's for certain is that any Democrat who votes to cave now and betray the base in exchange for nothing at all will live to regret it.

— Kevin M. Kruse (@kevinmkruse.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T20:25:27.137Z

"No Democrats have publicly flipped their position."

[MarineCombatEngineer]

12. Thank you.

This is why I'm waiting on further information before I jump on the Jump on Sen. Schumer bandwagon.

[Samael13]

20. Glad to know its bs

I hate that im supporting a shutdown but I dont trust republicans to deal fair or above board

[mcar]

21. I agree.

I can also see why some Democrats really do want to re-open government, as their constituents are suffering. But I hope this is BS.

[Attilatheblond]

81. We suffer now or suffer a lot more later if we cave now

[Cha]

52. Seems Sen Schumer is the Favoeite

GD Punching Bag.

Mahalo for All your Information That "There Is No Deal".

[mcar]

58. Thanks Cha

So tired of the pile on.

[Cha]

60. Yeah, it's a Freaking Epidemic.

So ready to jump on our Dems here on DU.

I really Appreciate all of us who don't get in on the Constant Bashing of Dems.. We've seen this bad scene before.. it led to the Traitor getting in our WH in the 1st place.

[Demsrule86]

74. I write this in the hospital. I have cardiac catherization tomorrow

And other stuff as well. Healthcare is important. Schumer supported the stupid bill in the first place and he has done this. And Snap is already cancelled so who did we help? I will support a primary for Schumer I think AOC could beat him. I will donate. Democrats need to stop caving. This empowers Trump and folks won’t believe Democrats anymore.

I hope you are well Cha…,

[Cha]

77. Best Healing Vibes for you, Dems.

[Demsrule86]

78. Thanks. I have issues with congestive heart failure

They are checking the heart thoroughly. I had a valve replacement in 2023.

[Demsrule86]

72. He whipped and negotiated it.

We will never get the ACA back. There will be no negotiation on it. And Democrats will be blamed.

[hadEnuf]

82. We give in to the Republicans,

we inherit and own millions losing their healthcare or making insurance premiums unaffordable.

[Mr.WeRP]

5. If true, Schumer's career is over

He turned his back on New Yorkers.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

6. No disrespect to you and I'm not saying whether or not I believe,

but with all the inaccurate and fake news, I think I'll wait for more information before I jump on the jump on Schumer bandwagon.

[mcar]

10. It appears to be more Axios/MSM stenography

and some here seem determined to push the "Schumer caved" narrative. I'll wait and see.

[senseandsensibility]

11. It's on CNN and MSNBC right now

Jonathan Karl posted about it. I think it's true. Claire McCaskill at this moment is on MSNBC with "inside" info about 10 Dems voting for this. MSNBC is saying the vote will be Monday though.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

15. So it's still not a done deal.

If, if this is true, then there will be hell to pay for this betrayal, but until I see it's true, I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt.

[senseandsensibility]

16. No not a done deal

MSNBC is now saying that Senate Dems will meet today and vote Monday.

[vanessa_ca]

45. Hope you're right. I still called. -eom

[MarineCombatEngineer]

46. I called also and left a very polite but forceful don't give up message.

[vanessa_ca]

47. Thank you!

[orangecrush]

50. Same

[mcar]

19. Weren't they all reporting last week

that Mikie Sherrill was in deep trouble, per the polls? I'd like to know their sources - and that it's not just Republicans saying this.

[mcar]

8. does this sound like a deal that's done

or someone trying to pressure Dems into one?

[richdj25]

13. I called Schumer's office.....

and left a message that I'm a progressive voter, who won't be pleased if Dems caved without actual extended benefits for Americans on the brink.

[Prairie_Seagull]

14. He better damn well have the 60 votes.

Or he is done.

[mzmolly]

22. Caving?

Democrats want people to have access to food and healthcare. As I understand it, the 'deals' being discussed would extend the ACA tax credits and reopen the Government.

[senseandsensibility]

24. Do you have a source for the extending ACA credits?

That hasn't been part of any of the reporting I've seen but would be great if true.

[mzmolly]

30. CBS and others are reporting on it.

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/government-shutdown-latest-senate-weekend-session/

Jeffries indicates House Democrats wouldn't support a promise to vote on extension of health insurance tax credits
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said Sunday that House Democrats would be unlikely to support a promise to vote on extension of health insurance tax credits as part of a deal to reopen the government. Senate Majority Leader John Thune has offered to hold a vote on a pre-determined date, and the idea has been part of bipartisan talks in the Senate aimed at finding an offramp to end the shutdown.

"I don't think that the House Democratic caucus is prepared to support a promise, a wing and a prayer, from folks who have been devastating the health care of the American people for years," Jeffries said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

Jeffries outlined his support for a one-year extension of the tax credits, which Senate Democrats proposed Friday in exchange for reopening the government. Jeffries had previously opposed the idea, but said Sunday that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's proposal was "was offered in good faith," while noting that it "provides a path toward bipartisan negotiations for a multi-year extension."

[senseandsensibility]

37. Okay, but the OP is about the Senate "caving"

not the House. They've been in session all day today and things are moving fast, apparently. If you believe Claire McCaskill on MSNBC, there are 10 Dems willing to vote for reopening the govt with only a promise to vote on the ACA extensions.

[mzmolly]

39. Surely the house and senate

have conversations and any bill passed will go through the reconcilliation process.

.... which Senate Democrats proposed Friday in exchange for reopening the government.

[Polybius]

69. The House has no filibuster though

They can pass it even without any Democrat's voting Yes.

[Dangling0826]

25. They got a deal for a vote in the senate

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What about the House? A vote is nothing it takes five minutes for the republicans to vote it done that is no deal it's a surrender.

[mzmolly]

31. See here:

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/government-shutdown-latest-senate-weekend-session/

Jeffries indicates House Democrats wouldn't support a promise to vote on extension of health insurance tax credits

[onenote]

33. In which case, the repubs and only the repubs are the reason the government stays shut

Hard for Johnson to spin his way out of that.

[Dangling0826]

23. Kyle never misses a chance to make a video dumping on democrats

[standingtall]

26. There not getting 60 votes

Doing this would be a horrible mistake. Personally I think it's b.s. they should need 60 votes anyway. Republicans never needed 60 votes when they tried to repeal the affordable health care act or when they gutted medicaid while giving massive tax breaks to the ultra wealthy. They did it all under reconciliation so they can find a way to extend the ACA subsidies under reconciliation too.

If Democrats do this they will get absolutely nothing out of it.

[MichMan]

32. When was the ACA repealed?

[standingtall]

79. Did you see the word tried in my post?

They tried to repeal it with a simply majority vote and didn't get it. Thanks to John McCain.

[LudwigPastorius]

27. Sooo, you're saying, "THIS IS SERIES!!1! CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!111!!!"?

[TBF]

35. A blast from the past - nt

[orangecrush]

51. Yup

[Emile]

29. Axios political bias, leans left.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

34. Oh no! A center left news outlet?!?!

Would you prefer Newsmax?

[mzmolly]

36. I think we'd prefer less spin

period.

[Deuxcents]

40. I'd prefer some communication from leadership and not talking heads.

[mzmolly]

42. Agree. I'm sure once any deal is made

we'll hear from leadership.

[Deuxcents]

48. I'd like some facts and some plans..they know how to email and mail out for donations.. some facts, please

[Wiz Imp]

55. I don't care what some anonymous website says

Axios is not remotely "left leaning".

[Emile]

59. Media bias analysts generally rate Axios as centrist or middle on the political spectrum.

[TBF]

38. If 10 democrats vote for this, they will be primaried.

We need to primary out anybody supporting this. Enough is enough.

[hamsterjill]

41. All is know is this:

If the Dems have come THIS far, then they need to see it through all the way. No fake promises from Republicans without ironclad issues written in stone. if the Dems have not learned YET that Republicans lie, cheat and steal, then they are never going to learn that concept.

Hoping this is NOT true, but my comment holds regardless. Democrats need to stick to their guns.

[vanessa_ca]

43. I hope not, but I called. So did my mom -eom

[Deuxcents]

44. I just called Schumer's DC office..I said we marched, we voted and we gave you momentum..do not cave

[everyonematters]

49. Trump doesn't give a shit. All he cares about is his ego. That's why there would never be a good ending to this.

[EnergizedLib]

53. I'm sick

I should be thrilled the Bears won, ruined by this.

[orangecrush]

54. Same

Sorry.

[SamuelTheThird]

56. If they do this they will demoralize voters and they wont come out in 2018

[MarineCombatEngineer]

57. I'm guessing that you meant to write 2028 instead of 2018. nt

[Maru Kitteh]

91. Everything old is new again?

It’s a theme. You know, like fascism.

[red dog 1]

61. "Chuck Schumer doing what he does best:"

Chuck Schumer doing what he does best: folding to Trump’s authoritarian regime and failing the American people. You’d think after last week, he’d understand the moment we’re in and the leverage he has. He must be replaced as leader immediately, and the out-of-touch corporate old guard needs to go.

— 50501: The People’s Movement ❌👑 (@50501movement.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T21:05:23.472Z

[Paladin]

64. Agreed. Schumer has been unequal to the task, from the beginning.

New Democratic leadership, just as soon as possible. Enough of this trump enablement.

[Javaman]

63. The repukes are pressing the bullshit hard to change the narrative

Schumer is a senator not a rep.

Until I hear something from Jeffries, this is all bullshit

[Ars Longa]

65. 4 Words.. Schumer needs to GO!!!

Period!!

[Lancero]

66. ACA subsidies for our time. Surely the word of Donadolf Trumpler and his party can be trusted...

Right?

[Javaman]

67. Nope. It's bullshit. Right wing propaganda. Nt

[Polybius]

89. Welp, that comment didn't age well

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/09/politics/government-shutdown-reopen-deal-senate

[Javaman]

92. Nope it didn't.. because as spineless as the repukes are to trump

The Dems are now showing them a thing or two

[C_U_L8R]

68. No confidence

The pasture is calling.
We need leaders on our side that fight vigorously for the people of this country.

[Demsrule86]

70. I called.

[orangecrush]

71. Same

[Jacson6]

73. Good news. Federal & military workers will get paid! n/t

[Demsrule86]

76. Oh yeah for sure. I guess the ACA doesn't matter

And some rich guy was getting the military money. And Democrats who supports this dead to me.

[BigmanPigman]

80. I just called Schumer and there is still room for more voice mails!

Pleeeease call. There is room for more messages to be sent via voice mail so your message WILL be listened to. It takes 30 seconds. Tell Schumer not to cave!!!

[senseandsensibility]

83. Yup

Hubby called first, and then finally said aren't you calling? Don't know why I was procrastinating, but I finally did it about a half hour ago and his voicemail wasn't full. Keep calling!

[orangecrush]

84. Thank you

[BigmanPigman]

85. I posted the phone number on YouTube podcast comments section and

?si=W84Pe4QUCv3gTYto

I got replies right away....very cool!!!!! People ARE calling. I hope it's not too late for Schumer to get "the message".

[orangecrush]

86. Thanks

[Ms. Toad]

87. I could support actually extending the credits for a year.

Not ideal - but liveable, since I think we'll be in a better position a year from now to make a permanent extension.

But a promise to vote on whether or not to extend them is a whole lot of nothing. Nope.

[flying-skeleton]

93. Traitors are amongst us ‼️

These traitorous senators better have gotten rich from surrendering because they just ended their political careers and will have to live their lives in shame ‼️

I will donate to every one who primaries these traitors ‼️