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mcar

(45,874 posts)
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:42 PM Nov 2025

A word of caution

I don't want to get in the way of the mass hysteria, but:

A word of caution about the new Axios report that Dem Senators are caving. Remember the NYT ran articles for months claiming that Harvard was caving, which.. never happened. Turns out their anonymous sources were Trump staffers. Axios may be similar.

But, it never hurts to call your Senator.
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capitolhunters (@capitolhunters.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T21:29:05.773Z


Here's the Axios article. They claim to have sources in "both parties" but they have zero people on the record, nor do they provide any explanation for why their sources were granted anonymity. Anonymous, possibly motivated rumor didn't used to be considered journalism. 2/

capitolhunters (@capitolhunters.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T21:29:05.807Z


Semafor reports the same story - "Deal to reopen government starts to come together" - but while they quote 3 GOP Senators, they have no Dems on the record. Mullin and Rounds say things like "It’s just a matter of one or two things to be worked out". No specifics. 3/
www.yahoo.com/news/article...

capitolhunters (@capitolhunters.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T21:34:22.063Z
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A word of caution (Original Post) mcar Nov 2025 OP
It doesn't make sense the Dems would cave. The recent election gave them a mandate. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #1
It did and I hope I'm not wrong about this mcar Nov 2025 #2
Yes of course. We should do what we can because we never know what will happen these days. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #8
Spot on! Emile Nov 2025 #7
I think the real problem is, we can see this happening. Oneironaut Nov 2025 #25
There will be many angry people. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #30
Thank you. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #3
It's a poorly sourced MSM pile on, IMO mcar Nov 2025 #5
The dictator wannabe con artist has a lot of control over the media Quiet Em Nov 2025 #4
"There are so very few sources I trust at this point" mcar Nov 2025 #6
You are correct, mcar. sheshe2 Nov 2025 #9
The House only needs 50 percent plus one. If all Republicans back it karynnj Nov 2025 #23
Thanks for the info canetoad Nov 2025 #10
Mullins Said It? ProfessorGAC Nov 2025 #11
Right? Why is the MSM pushing poorly sourced "news?" mcar Nov 2025 #12
I'll bet that these Sen. that are reported, not confirmed, but reported to sign on to this MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #13
We should call, but from a position of support mcar Nov 2025 #14
Yeah, this is beginning to smell like the typical repig bullshit, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #15
It's not just at BSky that I am seeing it. 😢 sheshe2 Nov 2025 #28
Because that's what the lazy ass media****** Cha Nov 2025 #17
What a Grand PSA, mcar... Cha Nov 2025 #16
Thanks, mcar. brer cat Nov 2025 #18
It's not just Axios - it's in many sources TBF Nov 2025 #19
Call my senator? Ernst or Grassley? progressoid Nov 2025 #20
In my case, "Runnin' Josh" Hawley or Schmitt-for-brains..... lastlib Nov 2025 #22
For me, it's unfortunately evolves Nov 2025 #24
I'll see you a Cornyn and raise you a Cruz. tanyev Nov 2025 #26
Dems would be fools to cave on a promise. spanone Nov 2025 #21
I'm sure they understand that to cave would be the end of the party and the end of any chance yaesu Nov 2025 #27
I just called Schumer at 3:15 PM and his mailbox is NOT full.... BigmanPigman Nov 2025 #29
I took that OP with a pound of salt Warpy Nov 2025 #31
CNN (yeah right) just blared out a "bipartisan deal" breaking news (as a live updates) but they would still have to vote BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 #32
I will believe it when I see it mcar Nov 2025 #33
I agree, although CNBC just blared something out BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 #34
But, it's what we do. Talk tough for two Weeks then fold like a card table. Hotler Nov 2025 #35

Irish_Dem

(80,632 posts)
1. It doesn't make sense the Dems would cave. The recent election gave them a mandate.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:48 PM
Nov 2025

To fight and fight hard.

Irish_Dem

(80,632 posts)
8. Yes of course. We should do what we can because we never know what will happen these days.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:03 PM
Nov 2025

Oneironaut

(6,264 posts)
25. I think the real problem is, we can see this happening.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:38 PM
Nov 2025

It would indeed be monumentally stupid and hurt so many people. Hopefully the Democrats are not caving and do not give Trump a massive victory and boost to his popularity, which he will gloat about for weeks while killing the most vulnerable people in society.

Caving with no compromise should not even be a possibility. It would be absolutely brain dead.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,933 posts)
3. Thank you.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:52 PM
Nov 2025

I basically wanted to say pretty much the same thing, but my words would've been a lot harsher which probably would've earned me a post removal, but you said it much more diplomatically.

mcar

(45,874 posts)
5. It's a poorly sourced MSM pile on, IMO
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:58 PM
Nov 2025

I would have thought that, by now, we'd all be a bit more skeptical.

I hope I'm right about it and will be sorely disappointed if it turns out to be true.

Quiet Em

(2,740 posts)
4. The dictator wannabe con artist has a lot of control over the media
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:56 PM
Nov 2025

and it seems that some are pushing what the con and the Republicans want the narrative to be.

There are so very few sources I trust at this point.

But Hakeem Jeffries said today that House Democrats will not pass any legislation that only offers a future discussion on health care prices. Any such legislation will be DOA.

mcar

(45,874 posts)
6. "There are so very few sources I trust at this point"
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:00 PM
Nov 2025

This exactly! They all just want the "breaking news!!11" and "Dems in disarray."

And, of course, too many on social media want to knee jerk hate Democrats.

karynnj

(60,870 posts)
23. The House only needs 50 percent plus one. If all Republicans back it
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:18 PM
Nov 2025

it would not be DOA.

Our best hope is that at least several R representatives realize that they will lose if they vote for something that eliminates the subsidies.

canetoad

(20,584 posts)
10. Thanks for the info
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:10 PM
Nov 2025

This is the kind of thing trump, miller etc would gleefully spread around.

ProfessorGAC

(76,376 posts)
11. Mullins Said It?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:15 PM
Nov 2025

And we're supposed to believe anything he says?
He just got caught making up a lie about working with Trump in DC while Trump was actually in Florida.
Nothing he says should be taken as fact.

mcar

(45,874 posts)
12. Right? Why is the MSM pushing poorly sourced "news?"
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:18 PM
Nov 2025

I see no Democrats stepping up, even Fetterman.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,933 posts)
13. I'll bet that these Sen. that are reported, not confirmed, but reported to sign on to this
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:22 PM
Nov 2025

are having their phones blowing up right about now, I called my Sen., Kelly, to voice my opinion and then I called Sen. Schumer's office and did the same thing.

If this is the typical repub. attempt at a rat fuck, I feel for these Sen.

mcar

(45,874 posts)
14. We should call, but from a position of support
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:25 PM
Nov 2025

I'm reading reports on Bluesky of people screaming and cursing at their senators. I'm still waiting to hear from a D Senator who says they are voting for this, rather than Redneck Mullin and a few other RWNJs.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,933 posts)
15. Yeah, this is beginning to smell like the typical repig bullshit,
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:28 PM
Nov 2025

they're pretty well known for this, but it still doesn't hurt to call and respectfully leave an opinion.

lastlib

(27,951 posts)
22. In my case, "Runnin' Josh" Hawley or Schmitt-for-brains.....
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:12 PM
Nov 2025

Yeah, that'll get it all worked out........



evolves

(5,816 posts)
24. For me, it's unfortunately
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:32 PM
Nov 2025

Marsha “Ms. Hair” Blackburn or Bill “Worthless Tool” Hagerty.

yaesu

(9,189 posts)
27. I'm sure they understand that to cave would be the end of the party and the end of any chance
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:45 PM
Nov 2025

to see a democracy in this country ever again.

BigmanPigman

(54,931 posts)
29. I just called Schumer at 3:15 PM and his mailbox is NOT full....
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:50 PM
Nov 2025

I call senators and congressmen a lot and it is always a good thing when I hear that the politicians' voice mail/messages is full.

This leads me to believe that not enough people are calling and expressing their opinions to Schumer.

Pleeeeeeaaaaaase call him!!!!! +1 (202) 224-6542.

Warpy

(114,544 posts)
31. I took that OP with a pound of salt
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:11 PM
Nov 2025

because Democrats, even the jellyfish among them, are not in a caving sort of mood, not after last Tiesday confirmaed the fact that America by and large isn't buiying that Republican pack of lies about the shutdown.

"Aw, go ahead and tun that story. It's worked in the past, the American people are really stupid, they'll buy it again."

It's why I knew the NYT was nothing but fishwrap 50 years ago.

BumRushDaShow

(168,062 posts)
32. CNN (yeah right) just blared out a "bipartisan deal" breaking news (as a live updates) but they would still have to vote
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:13 PM
Nov 2025

mcar

(45,874 posts)
33. I will believe it when I see it
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:19 PM
Nov 2025

I hope it's just the usual media "Dems in disarray" pile on.

BumRushDaShow

(168,062 posts)
34. I agree, although CNBC just blared something out
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:29 PM
Nov 2025

But again - the caveats are "the vote", and then if what they have isn't what the House passed, then it HAS to go BACK to the House that Johnson refuses to call into session in order to stifle the Epstein discharge petition and it will really put the pressure on him to swear in Adelita Grijalva.

Hotler

(13,746 posts)
35. But, it's what we do. Talk tough for two Weeks then fold like a card table.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:41 PM
Nov 2025

Cry bag about not having the votes then give votes away when they have some leverage.

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