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mcar

(45,597 posts)
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:42 PM Nov 9

A word of caution

I don't want to get in the way of the mass hysteria, but:

A word of caution about the new Axios report that Dem Senators are caving. Remember the NYT ran articles for months claiming that Harvard was caving, which.. never happened. Turns out their anonymous sources were Trump staffers. Axios may be similar.

But, it never hurts to call your Senator.
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capitolhunters (@capitolhunters.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T21:29:05.773Z


Here's the Axios article. They claim to have sources in "both parties" but they have zero people on the record, nor do they provide any explanation for why their sources were granted anonymity. Anonymous, possibly motivated rumor didn't used to be considered journalism. 2/

capitolhunters (@capitolhunters.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T21:29:05.807Z


Semafor reports the same story - "Deal to reopen government starts to come together" - but while they quote 3 GOP Senators, they have no Dems on the record. Mullin and Rounds say things like "It’s just a matter of one or two things to be worked out". No specifics. 3/
www.yahoo.com/news/article...

capitolhunters (@capitolhunters.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T21:34:22.063Z
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A word of caution (Original Post) mcar Nov 9 OP
It doesn't make sense the Dems would cave. The recent election gave them a mandate. Irish_Dem Nov 9 #1
It did and I hope I'm not wrong about this mcar Nov 9 #2
Yes of course. We should do what we can because we never know what will happen these days. Irish_Dem Nov 9 #8
Spot on! Emile Nov 9 #7
I think the real problem is, we can see this happening. Oneironaut Nov 9 #25
There will be many angry people. Irish_Dem Nov 9 #30
Thank you. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #3
It's a poorly sourced MSM pile on, IMO mcar Nov 9 #5
The dictator wannabe con artist has a lot of control over the media Quiet Em Nov 9 #4
"There are so very few sources I trust at this point" mcar Nov 9 #6
You are correct, mcar. sheshe2 Nov 9 #9
The House only needs 50 percent plus one. If all Republicans back it karynnj Nov 9 #23
Thanks for the info canetoad Nov 9 #10
Mullins Said It? ProfessorGAC Nov 9 #11
Right? Why is the MSM pushing poorly sourced "news?" mcar Nov 9 #12
I'll bet that these Sen. that are reported, not confirmed, but reported to sign on to this MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #13
We should call, but from a position of support mcar Nov 9 #14
Yeah, this is beginning to smell like the typical repig bullshit, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #15
It's not just at BSky that I am seeing it. 😢 sheshe2 Nov 9 #28
Because that's what the lazy ass media****** Cha Nov 9 #17
What a Grand PSA, mcar... Cha Nov 9 #16
Thanks, mcar. brer cat Nov 9 #18
It's not just Axios - it's in many sources TBF Nov 9 #19
Call my senator? Ernst or Grassley? progressoid Nov 9 #20
In my case, "Runnin' Josh" Hawley or Schmitt-for-brains..... lastlib Nov 9 #22
For me, it's unfortunately evolves Nov 9 #24
I'll see you a Cornyn and raise you a Cruz. tanyev Nov 9 #26
Dems would be fools to cave on a promise. spanone Nov 9 #21
I'm sure they understand that to cave would be the end of the party and the end of any chance yaesu Nov 9 #27
I just called Schumer at 3:15 PM and his mailbox is NOT full.... BigmanPigman Nov 9 #29
I took that OP with a pound of salt Warpy Nov 9 #31
CNN (yeah right) just blared out a "bipartisan deal" breaking news (as a live updates) but they would still have to vote BumRushDaShow Nov 9 #32
I will believe it when I see it mcar Nov 9 #33
I agree, although CNBC just blared something out BumRushDaShow Nov 9 #34
But, it's what we do. Talk tough for two Weeks then fold like a card table. Hotler Nov 9 #35

Irish_Dem

(79,367 posts)
1. It doesn't make sense the Dems would cave. The recent election gave them a mandate.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:48 PM
Nov 9

To fight and fight hard.

Irish_Dem

(79,367 posts)
8. Yes of course. We should do what we can because we never know what will happen these days.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:03 PM
Nov 9

Oneironaut

(6,195 posts)
25. I think the real problem is, we can see this happening.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:38 PM
Nov 9

It would indeed be monumentally stupid and hurt so many people. Hopefully the Democrats are not caving and do not give Trump a massive victory and boost to his popularity, which he will gloat about for weeks while killing the most vulnerable people in society.

Caving with no compromise should not even be a possibility. It would be absolutely brain dead.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,552 posts)
3. Thank you.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:52 PM
Nov 9

I basically wanted to say pretty much the same thing, but my words would've been a lot harsher which probably would've earned me a post removal, but you said it much more diplomatically.

mcar

(45,597 posts)
5. It's a poorly sourced MSM pile on, IMO
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:58 PM
Nov 9

I would have thought that, by now, we'd all be a bit more skeptical.

I hope I'm right about it and will be sorely disappointed if it turns out to be true.

Quiet Em

(2,520 posts)
4. The dictator wannabe con artist has a lot of control over the media
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:56 PM
Nov 9

and it seems that some are pushing what the con and the Republicans want the narrative to be.

There are so very few sources I trust at this point.

But Hakeem Jeffries said today that House Democrats will not pass any legislation that only offers a future discussion on health care prices. Any such legislation will be DOA.

mcar

(45,597 posts)
6. "There are so very few sources I trust at this point"
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:00 PM
Nov 9

This exactly! They all just want the "breaking news!!11" and "Dems in disarray."

And, of course, too many on social media want to knee jerk hate Democrats.

karynnj

(60,765 posts)
23. The House only needs 50 percent plus one. If all Republicans back it
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:18 PM
Nov 9

it would not be DOA.

Our best hope is that at least several R representatives realize that they will lose if they vote for something that eliminates the subsidies.

canetoad

(20,076 posts)
10. Thanks for the info
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:10 PM
Nov 9

This is the kind of thing trump, miller etc would gleefully spread around.

ProfessorGAC

(75,682 posts)
11. Mullins Said It?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:15 PM
Nov 9

And we're supposed to believe anything he says?
He just got caught making up a lie about working with Trump in DC while Trump was actually in Florida.
Nothing he says should be taken as fact.

mcar

(45,597 posts)
12. Right? Why is the MSM pushing poorly sourced "news?"
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:18 PM
Nov 9

I see no Democrats stepping up, even Fetterman.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,552 posts)
13. I'll bet that these Sen. that are reported, not confirmed, but reported to sign on to this
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:22 PM
Nov 9

are having their phones blowing up right about now, I called my Sen., Kelly, to voice my opinion and then I called Sen. Schumer's office and did the same thing.

If this is the typical repub. attempt at a rat fuck, I feel for these Sen.

mcar

(45,597 posts)
14. We should call, but from a position of support
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:25 PM
Nov 9

I'm reading reports on Bluesky of people screaming and cursing at their senators. I'm still waiting to hear from a D Senator who says they are voting for this, rather than Redneck Mullin and a few other RWNJs.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,552 posts)
15. Yeah, this is beginning to smell like the typical repig bullshit,
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:28 PM
Nov 9

they're pretty well known for this, but it still doesn't hurt to call and respectfully leave an opinion.

lastlib

(27,418 posts)
22. In my case, "Runnin' Josh" Hawley or Schmitt-for-brains.....
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:12 PM
Nov 9

Yeah, that'll get it all worked out........



evolves

(5,725 posts)
24. For me, it's unfortunately
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:32 PM
Nov 9

Marsha “Ms. Hair” Blackburn or Bill “Worthless Tool” Hagerty.

yaesu

(8,893 posts)
27. I'm sure they understand that to cave would be the end of the party and the end of any chance
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:45 PM
Nov 9

to see a democracy in this country ever again.

BigmanPigman

(54,533 posts)
29. I just called Schumer at 3:15 PM and his mailbox is NOT full....
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:50 PM
Nov 9

I call senators and congressmen a lot and it is always a good thing when I hear that the politicians' voice mail/messages is full.

This leads me to believe that not enough people are calling and expressing their opinions to Schumer.

Pleeeeeeaaaaaase call him!!!!! +1 (202) 224-6542.

Warpy

(114,363 posts)
31. I took that OP with a pound of salt
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:11 PM
Nov 9

because Democrats, even the jellyfish among them, are not in a caving sort of mood, not after last Tiesday confirmaed the fact that America by and large isn't buiying that Republican pack of lies about the shutdown.

"Aw, go ahead and tun that story. It's worked in the past, the American people are really stupid, they'll buy it again."

It's why I knew the NYT was nothing but fishwrap 50 years ago.

BumRushDaShow

(165,151 posts)
32. CNN (yeah right) just blared out a "bipartisan deal" breaking news (as a live updates) but they would still have to vote
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:13 PM
Nov 9

mcar

(45,597 posts)
33. I will believe it when I see it
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:19 PM
Nov 9

I hope it's just the usual media "Dems in disarray" pile on.

BumRushDaShow

(165,151 posts)
34. I agree, although CNBC just blared something out
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:29 PM
Nov 9

But again - the caveats are "the vote", and then if what they have isn't what the House passed, then it HAS to go BACK to the House that Johnson refuses to call into session in order to stifle the Epstein discharge petition and it will really put the pressure on him to swear in Adelita Grijalva.

Hotler

(13,717 posts)
35. But, it's what we do. Talk tough for two Weeks then fold like a card table.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:41 PM
Nov 9

Cry bag about not having the votes then give votes away when they have some leverage.

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