"The deal also includes voting in December to extend the Affordable Care Act subsidies..."

[Miles Archer]

Congressional Democrats have reached a deal to end the longest government shutdown in history, according to a new report.

Multiple sources granted anonymity told Axios that at least 10 Democrats plan to vote on the deal, which includes supporting a procedural motion to approve a series of short-term spending bills that fund the government through the end of the year. The deal also includes voting in December to extend the Affordable Care Act subsidies that Democrats have been fighting to preserve, according to the report.

There is also a negotiation to reinstate all of the federal workers Trump laid off during the shutdown, the report adds.

"Talks are fluid, and no deal is final until lawmakers have voted," Axios reported. "But the discussions are progressing toward a deal that would end weeks of deadlock in the Senate."

https://www.rawstory.com/government-shutdown-2674279992/

[EnergizedLib]

1. Our party isn't this stupid, right?

And when the vote comes in December, Republicans will vote no.

[rsdsharp]

29. Exactly. A vote to extend is not an extension.

That’s if they even hold the vote. I’m not holding my breath.

[Javaman]

31. Vote? What is the vote that you speak of? nt

[Hugin]

2. December is too late. The open season for the ACA ends on December seventh.

Once that happens, people are locked into agreements they absolutely can’t afford. Stupid.

[yellow dahlia]

10. Thanks for mentioning this.

I was going to comment about the same stumbling point.

[Chicken Magnet]

3. Is it a guarantee to hold a vote in the Senate or both the House and Senate?

Because if there is no guarantee to hold it in the House, you're basically doing a performative act here since the House won't take it up.

No matter, I doubt there are 60 votes in the Senate anyway to extend the subsidies.

The whole reason Democrats refused the deal originally was to hold the Republicans' feet to the fire and get them to accept a subsidy extension because they knew they weren't going to get it otherwise.

This deal basically guarantees nothing, so what the hell was the point?

[lastlib]

37. Apparently the point now is to get the GOPee to negotiate in good faith.

And the repuglikans are ROFL --"Good faith?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhahahaha!!"

[mcar]

4. "Talks are fluid and no deal is final"

[Miles Archer]

7. Yes, I made sure to include that

Headline was "Deal Reached," and that one line certainly doesn't tell me a deal has been reached. There may be a few versions of the truth before the truth is certain.

[MichMan]

5. After the end of the year, just shut it down again if needed

[Raven123]

8. You don't get many chances at this. Another shutdown may backfire.

[TBF]

15. We have more leverage NOW - before the holidays.

Republicans want to open because airports effect rich people - demand healthcare NOW.

[Lovie777]

6. -0- trust regarding Republicans........................

that said, please have it certified, notarized, assurance from GQP that the subsides will be honored and extended, although it should be included now.

[Raven123]

9. The House will not go along with it, IMO

[MarineCombatEngineer]

12. And neither will Been A Dick Donald,

he'll tell his toadies in the Sen. to blow up the deal and like the good little Nazis that they are, they'll do it and praise him for his "divine leadership".

[Miles Archer]

13. They're talking about a vote, not a guaranteed outcome

We need to realize that Trump does not want this, if for no other reason than the ACA is also referred to as ObamaCare, and Trump has an obsession with reversing or eradicating anything that carries his name.

I can tell you exactly what will happen.

Trump will "work" the Republicans every day between the "agreement" and the day the vote is taken.

He'll start with locker room coach pep talks, and if they don't work, he'll go directly to threats.

He will make sure that every single Republican feels that they have something to lose by voting for the extension.

So, none of them will.

But as the article says, "nothing is decided yet."

[TBF]

16. Here in Texas, Abbott has literally forced repugs to vote his way

by calling Trump and having Trump threaten them (to run people against them). It happened to our local rep who started out against vouchers. He caved after the call from Trump.

Trump gets down in the trenches and threatens these guys - and he will find the money to run people against them.

If we give in now that will be the end of ACA subsidies.

[Miles Archer]

19. If we go for the "settlement" as it's being reported, I think it's a safe bet that we can kiss the ACA goodbye

And, the problem is, if Republicans can ultimately "prevail" against the ACA, as long as they have the votes, they can "prevail" against anything that's not in the Project 2025 manifesto.

This is why we're hearing so much frenzied talk from Republicans regarding the midterms. This is why Trump is "rushing" them. He knows. He's got to check off every item on the wish list before next November. And I refuse to join the "WHAT IF HE CANCELS THE MIDTERMS" crowd. I know it's a possibility. I'm just not going to buy into it.

[TBF]

36. "WHAT IF HE CANCELS THE MIDTERMS" -

I mean, he could. But the problem with worrying about that is that it's another deflection, and we also can't control what he does anyway. All we can do is react. We've got a problem right now in front of us & we do have some power if we hold the line. Schumer should be on the phone to every one of those corporate dems and calling them out.

[hlthe2b]

11. I don't trust any R's in Congress nor WH any more than I would trust Putin. So, we are just supposed to take their

"promises?"

[ProfessorGAC]

14. The Obvious Concern...

...is precisely what you stated.
McConnell wouldn't being a SCOTUS nominee to the floor because it was an election year, then did exactly that 4 years later.
They can't be trusted.
Plus, if the do bring a vote to the floor, they simply vote en bloc and with the majority it gets killed.
This is not a shrewd deal in an way.

[TBF]

17. "We'll vote in Dec" is the new "Check is in the mail" - nt

[The Madcap]

18. Does thismean the house would re-open

And that the new Rep. from AZ would be sworn in? Epstein-218 Baby!

[lastlib]

20. Yeah, that'll be a big deal.....

...to the millions who will find their health insurance unaffordable.......

[The Madcap]

22. At least some price could be paid.

[Bettie]

26. LOL....NO.

Moses will find excuse after excuse to keep from swearing her in until the end of time.

[The Madcap]

32. You aren't wrong.

I should have emphasized that my question was somewhat rhetorical.

[Bettie]

35. I figured as much

but I am filled to the brim with snark tonight.

[SheltieLover]

21. Ridiculous

[yaesu]

23. any deal based on fascist promises will be a slap in the face of every Democratic voter, it will not end well. nt

[senseandsensibility]

24. I agree with this post by Aaron Rupar a few minutes ago:

"Dems backed Trump into a corner where he's advocating for starving Americans and hemorrhaging support. If they vote to let him off the hook in exchange for nothing it's a cataclysmic failure. I know people are in pain but insulating Republicans from political consequences is not the answer."

[Bettie]

25. So, from what this says

they got a promise to vote down ACA subsidies in December.

A "deal" to talk about the federal workers and then ensure that they stay fired...

In other words, if this is the "deal" they are taking, they are selling us all out for a handful of Republican lies.

[Miles Archer]

27. Seems like Republicans get everything they want, and the things we held out for aren't going to happen

And, the Republicans will position themselves as having "saved" America from having the shutdown continue.

I don't see that we gained a single thing.

[Bettie]

28. Exactly...

a handful of imaginary magic beans.

But, we're being told that these Dems did something. Well, I guess caving is "something" technically.

[Miles Archer]

30. I think they proved to a segment of America that Republicans were given a chance to do the right thing...

...and chose not to.

So the "value" of that is largely subjective, because it only matters if voters realuze that voting Republican is not in their best interests.

The Republican messaging, on Fox & Newsmax, is repetitive and designed to fan the flames of anger and resentment. And "low information voters" are glued to those channels.

I'd say the "value" of the Dems having held out is directly tied to how many voters they were able to "peel off" from Republicans, and I don't see how we have any way of knowing that until the next election.

[Demsrule86]

34. It is a betrayal.

[Demsrule86]

33. And you think the GOP will really allow the subsidies

Will get a real vote?If they wanted that , the GOP could have ended the shutdown on the second day. We got nothing. This is a betrayal. Primary every Democrat that votes for this.