Abigail Spanberger says Democrats' election wins aren't a green light to extend shutdown

[SocialDemocrat61]

Abigail Spanberger says Democrats' election wins aren't a green light to extend shutdown
The Democratic Virginia governor-elect said both parties should vote to open the government even if there's no deal to extend health care subsidies.
By Alexandra Marquez and Katie Taylor

Virginia Gov.-elect Abigail Spanberger, a Democrat, said Sunday that Democrats in the Senate should join a majority of Senate Republicans to vote to reopen the government, regardless of whether both sides reach a deal on extending Affordable Care Act subsidies.

“The government needs to open and it needs to open immediately. We need the president to demonstrate leadership, bringing people together, endeavoring to get through whatever negotiations need to get through, whether it’s before or after,” Spanberger told CBS’ “Face the Nation” on Sunday.

She added that her priority as the incoming governor of Virginia is “focusing on the needs and the devastation, frankly, that more than 300,000 Virginians are facing.”

Asked whether congressional Democrats should view Democratic victories last week as a sign that voters support their push to keep the government closed until they reach a deal on ACA subsidies, Spanberger said, “Absolutely not.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/abigail-spanberger-democrats-election-shutdown-healthcare-virginia-rcna242859

[Blue Owl]

1. Isn't this ball in the Republican's court?

[johnnyfins]

2. I simply do NOT agree with her on this point

There is no "good faith" when negotiating with these MAGAS.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

3. And I had such high hopes for her.

[Irish_Dem]

16. They always fool us.

[dweller]

4. A little soon to be working

On your 2nd term reelection bid , isn’t it ?

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[Bookreadingliberal53]

12. Governors only serve 1 term in Virginia nt

[dweller]

32. In this case

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[ForgoTheConsequence]

5. "We need the president to demonstrate leadership, bringing people together"

Good luck with that, Governor.

[BlueKota]

45. Him demonstrating leadership

will happen when hell freezes over.

[RandySF]

6. Virginia has over 100,000 federal employees.

Again, Virginia is not NYC.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

18. And 388,000 with ACA marketplace plans.

335, 255 receive ACA subsidies, but I guess they don't matter.

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[krawhitham]

36. And 827,800 SNAP recipients

827,800 SNAP recipients, but I guess they don't matter.



https://usafacts.org/answers/how-many-people-receive-snap-benefits-in-the-us-every-month/state/virginia/

[ForgoTheConsequence]

37. Do you think it's the Democrats that are holding SNAP hostage?

Do you trust the Republicans who are keeping SNAP money hostage right now to keep their promises?

[krawhitham]

41. Hostage, no.

If you can stop a bad thing and don't, you are not BLAME FREE. This is not a zero sum game, people will starve, the GOP is good with that. Are you?

This stop gap is only til January (2 months), by which time the SNAP appeal will be won and you can start the whole shutdown over with a lot more staying power

[ForgoTheConsequence]

43. So you think Democrats are to blame?

Interesting take.

[Cha]

19. Right? That's what I was thinking of.. Gov

Spanberger is looking out for her Constituents, who Voted her into Office.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

21. And yet, the vast majority of Virginians, including those Fed. employees,

voted for her, so it seems that VA. is like NYC when it came to voting on Tues.

[EdmondDantes_]

34. Except she isn't Mamdani, two different electorates

Would you have said that just because they both won elections in 2012 that Elizabeth Warren's Massachusetts voters were the same as Joe Manchin's voters in West Virginia? Because that's obviously not true.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

35. Yeah, I know she's not like Mamdani, that's not the comparison I made,

I said that judging by the margins of victory between NYC and VA, then it was comparable.

[JI7]

7. She is going to be Governor Of Virginia

[bronxiteforever]

8. If Obamacare dies won't many fired Va fed employees

lose their opportunity to get insurance? I guess COBRA but good luck making those payments with no job.
Hopefully the Va Governor can cover those fired employees with a state health insurance program.

[Emile]

9. Did she run as a centrist dem?

[SunSeeker]

28. Yes. And won by double digits. nt

[Emile]

29. So that's the future of our party?

God help us!

[SunSeeker]

44. She represents a large and crucial set of Democrats who will get us back in the White House and save our country.

God help us if we walk away from this coalition.

[Bread and Circuses]

10. NO. Send her back . She's another sellout

[Wanderlust988]

11. We have no power. At this point, we need to call it a day and claim VICTORY

We brought about intense media coverage on subsidies and SNAP. Before, you didn't hear a peep about it. Now, when those price hikes hit, they will blame Trump. Also, not getting SNAP is a big deal. The people on DU saying it's a cave don't worry about their food. People need to eat. This shutdown can't go on forever. It's about humanity, irrespective of Trump.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

14. Victory when millions are cut off from healthcare?

That isn't a fucking "victory".

[dem4decades]

15. So it was the Democrats that caused this all along? That's what you're saying.

[EdmondDantes_]

39. We did put the end to the subsidies to be now because we wanted to pass them via budget reconciliation.

So we are absolutely the cause of these subsidies expiring now because we were keeping the Inflation Reduction Act budget neutral to pass it without Republicans. But these subsidies were said to be necessary because of covid. Extending them indefinitely because healthcare costs have skyrocketed is an entirely different argument for why the subsidies are needed and frankly don't do anything to address the cost of healthcare being unsustainable.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

17. I really wish we still had the UnRec. function, but in light of the fact that we don't, this will suffice.

[SheLiberal]

20. I hate to say it

But I have to agree, I would love to stand on principle but if the Republicans will not compromise at all we have little choice and the government can not stay closed forever. We are dealing with sociopaths and there is a limit to how much pain Democrats are willing to put the people through. The question I have will losing the ACA be enough for people to vote in the midterms?

[ForgoTheConsequence]

24. Why would it be enough?

If the Democrats fail to protect it this time, why would they be trusted again?

[LearnedHand]

25. So it's okay to compromise on the lives of those on the ACA?

Do we even have a red line anymore?

[leftstreet]

42. It's not okay, but it makes sense

Most Americans don't get their coverage through the ACA

(roughly)
Employer - 165 million
Medicare - 70 million
Medicaid - 77 million
ACA - 24 million

[MarineCombatEngineer]

26. ....

The question I have will losing the ACA be enough for people to vote in the midterms?

If the Dems cave on this, then we will get our asses kicked in 2026 and 2028, why would we come out to vote after a betrayal like this if it's true?
All this will just prove that Dems don't stand on principles and will blame us for caving to the repigs.

[Emile]

27. I take it you are not on the ACA?

[SheLiberal]

33. No

But I have family members that used it and we were all very grateful for the ACA. I wish we had Medicare for all but I don’t see how we can get there with the current state of this country.

Maybe I am just too discouraged by the current government.

[Irish_Dem]

13. Good God.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

22. 335,255 Virginians receive subsidized healthcare insurance via an ACA plan.

They were all just thrown under the bus.



https://acasignups.net/tags/virginia#:~:text=How%20much%20more%20will%20VIRGINIA,ACA%20subsidies%20expire?%20

[Silent Type]

23. Could she be another moderate that we'll eat at some point.

[question everything]

30. Apparently we already do

[ForgoTheConsequence]

38. Better to "eat" a politician than let millions die without healthcare.

[EnergizedLib]

31. This is not a good day to be a Democrat

I might show up to the polls next year, but it won’t be to vote for Democrats. It will only be to vote against Republicans.

I’d rather drown in my own blood than vote Republican, but if Democrats wanted to depress and deflate my enthusiasm, they did so flawlessly.

And I highly doubt I’m the only one who feels this way.

[Mr.WeRP]

40. Of course she says this. She runs a state with a high percentage of gov contractors!

This doesn’t mean dems should cave! People’s lives are on the line. Fight for them!