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Welp, there goes our mandate. (Original Post) MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 OP
Again and again and again. FoxNewsSucks Nov 9 #1
That didn't last long leftstreet Nov 9 #2
That Jon Stewart post from a few days ago... OneGrassRoot Nov 9 #3
Bookmark the thread FHRRK Nov 9 #12
That is so apropos True Dough Nov 10 #28
Tuesday made me feel hopeful Bettie Nov 9 #4
Yep, I thought we had the momentum heading into the 2026 mid terms, but Chucky and friends MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #5
Roger that! flashman13 Nov 10 #24
We proved that the American people like the fight for healthcare applegrove Nov 9 #6
And Dems will be blamed 100% for the shutdown Arazi Nov 9 #7
How so? applegrove Nov 9 #8
Dems caved without getting anything so why do it in the first place? Arazi Nov 9 #10
They gained the respect of millions as the protectors applegrove Nov 9 #20
No they didn't. They caused immense suffering and anger Arazi Nov 10 #22
Yes they did. They caused immense suffering and get to keep on doing it w/o giving up a thing. CountMyVote4Reality Nov 10 #29
Protectors of healthcare??? Onama Biden Man Nov 10 #23
B.S. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #11
We're furious and feel duped. Independents will feel the same Arazi Nov 9 #16
Nailed it!! MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #18
And the momentum. Maru Kitteh Nov 9 #9
Yep, and, as much as I hate to say it, we are going to get our asses kicked in 2026 and 2028. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #13
It is almost like some Dems are working to help trump FHRRK Nov 9 #14
Well it sure doesn't feel random, gotta say. Maru Kitteh Nov 9 #17
That's a record fujiyamasan Nov 9 #15
Johnson will not let the House vote on this. AverageOldGuy Nov 9 #19
Dems caved to White Power LuvLoogie Nov 9 #21
The capitulationist wing will be the death of us. JHB Nov 10 #25
Trump didn't care if people were unable to feed their families. yliza Nov 10 #26
A huge strategic blunder C_U_L8R Nov 10 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #30

OneGrassRoot

(23,927 posts)
3. That Jon Stewart post from a few days ago...
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:17 PM
Nov 9

where he said something to the effect “how will Dems squander this amazing victory” - and of course 98% of the comments were basically “fuck him, he’s dead to me” - is all I can think about. It took a mere few days.

FHRRK

(1,354 posts)
12. Bookmark the thread
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:33 PM
Nov 9

Like the Garland defenders, you will at least know who you are dealing with.

True Dough

(25,635 posts)
28. That is so apropos
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:53 AM
Nov 10

Let's see those "Stewart is a turncoat" types defend their misdirected anger at a man who is a longtime ally to the Dems -- his only "crime" being that he just happens to voice his valid criticism.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,552 posts)
5. Yep, I thought we had the momentum heading into the 2026 mid terms, but Chucky and friends
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:23 PM
Nov 9

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fucked us and didn't even use lotion.
He may have voted no, but make no mistake, he already knew he had the votes to pass this CR, so he could confidently vote no knowing that his vote would not count.

Time for Chucky to retire and let someone who's in tune with the American people to take the reins and fight for the principles of this country.

applegrove

(129,953 posts)
6. We proved that the American people like the fight for healthcare
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:16 PM
Nov 9

and backed Democrats while they were doing that over-the-top. So healthcare is the issue of our times.

Arazi

(8,682 posts)
10. Dems caved without getting anything so why do it in the first place?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:31 PM
Nov 9

If they weren’t going to fight til the end, they’ve caused weeks of anguish and hardship for nothing.

I’m furious and disgusted at them now for the shutdown and I’m a hardcore Dem.

applegrove

(129,953 posts)
20. They gained the respect of millions as the protectors
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:54 PM
Nov 9

of food and healthcare for Americans. Do you really think anyone thinks the MAGA Republicans gained on either of those two issues?

Arazi

(8,682 posts)
22. No they didn't. They caused immense suffering and anger
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:02 AM
Nov 10

Many federal workers, soldiers and their families have been in food lines for weeks. For nothing.

And this is literally the death knell of the ACA.

Millions of people will leave the marketplace effectively destroying it. The only way the ACA works is if there’s a large pool of people participating.

29. Yes they did. They caused immense suffering and get to keep on doing it w/o giving up a thing.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:10 AM
Nov 10

bc the Democratic “opposition” leadership will cave every time. FOR WHAT?
Happy Holidays, Suckers! Even more goes away on 1/30/2026.

Arazi

(8,682 posts)
16. We're furious and feel duped. Independents will feel the same
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:42 PM
Nov 9

The reasons for doing the shutdown are contradictory and nonsensical in light of the capitulation; claiming they won something on health care when they didn't; saying they won things that were already law.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,552 posts)
18. Nailed it!!
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:45 PM
Nov 9

I truly thought that we had the momentum and high road, only to get screwed by our fellow Dem Senators.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,552 posts)
13. Yep, and, as much as I hate to say it, we are going to get our asses kicked in 2026 and 2028.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:35 PM
Nov 9

Why, as a loyal progressive Democrat, should I vote if my Party constantly kowtows to the repigs when the going gets tough?
I suspect that a lot of Dems are questioning why we support only to get fucked in the end.

FHRRK

(1,354 posts)
14. It is almost like some Dems are working to help trump
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:35 PM
Nov 9

Wonder what the payout is to screw over your own party.

fujiyamasan

(1,127 posts)
15. That's a record
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:41 PM
Nov 9

Didn’t even last a week.

And with that, all excitement for 2026 is deflated. Good luck to the leadership telling the base they’re fighting Trump. Trump can claim to be the best and toughest negotiator.

Easy to claim when the likes of Schumer are your opponent. Lol

AverageOldGuy

(3,279 posts)
19. Johnson will not let the House vote on this.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:52 PM
Nov 9

Senate Democrats are caving on the shutdown.

The broad framework for agreement, which was negotiated in part by Sens. Angus King, Jeanne Shaheen, and Maggie Hassan, as well as GOP senators, has “more than enough” members of the Senate Democratic Caucus to advance, according to two people granted anonymity to disclose the terms,” Politico reported.

In exchange for their votes, these handful of “moderate” Democrats—which notably does not include Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer—are getting nothing.

Well, that’s not true.

They’re getting a promise of a vote on ACA subsidies in the Senate, which will easily go down in defeat. Not to mention, Speaker Mike Johnson has said he’ll never even bring the matter up for a vote in the House.

LuvLoogie

(8,471 posts)
21. Dems caved to White Power
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:59 PM
Nov 9

to a criminal, racist regime.

For donor largess and 4 hour K Street lunches.

yliza

(196 posts)
26. Trump didn't care if people were unable to feed their families.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:38 AM
Nov 10

That’s what he has over us, his willingness to let others suffer and die to get what he wants. I’m not happy about the deal, but I’m not a parent who is wondering how I’m going to feed my kids if the orange shitstain doesn’t release the hold on SNAP benefits. I’m pretty pissed off, but what I’m mostly pissed about is that it came to this. The entire republican caucus, including Moses Mike, is willing to put people in existential danger just to force their agenda.

This is actually the messaging that dems need to go with, loud and clear. Trump was going to let Americans starve, he didn’t care. Dems took a black eye so that Americans could put food on the table.

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