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iemanja

(57,314 posts)
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 09:58 PM Nov 9

Are these all the Democratic Senators who voted with the GOP?

How did they get this through without Schumer? I thought he was supposed to be in charge of the Democratic Senate caucus.


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Are these all the Democratic Senators who voted with the GOP? (Original Post) iemanja Nov 9 OP
"I thought (Schumer) was supposed to be in charge of the Democratic Senate caucus." LudwigPastorius Nov 9 #1
Remember when Schumer had 68 Senate Democrats? tritsofme Nov 9 #3
Yeah, LBJ had that many Dems, and he STILL... LudwigPastorius Nov 9 #4
All Democrats did not support the Bill Rights bill iemanja Nov 9 #5
That was my point. LudwigPastorius Nov 9 #6
You're giving him the benefit of the doubt iemanja Nov 9 #7
Any evidence at all for your theory? LudwigPastorius Nov 9 #8
I never claimed I had evidence iemanja Nov 9 #9
So, prove he wasn't, eh? LudwigPastorius Nov 9 #10
So you must have heard Schumer denounce iemanja Nov 9 #11
Linkee LudwigPastorius Nov 9 #12
It's late, so I won't watch the video now. iemanja Nov 10 #13
Well, they are probably going to need their great government healthcare to get braces for their weak knees yaesu Nov 9 #2

LudwigPastorius

(14,047 posts)
1. "I thought (Schumer) was supposed to be in charge of the Democratic Senate caucus."
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:09 PM
Nov 9

You're confusing him with LBJ.


LudwigPastorius

(14,047 posts)
4. Yeah, LBJ had that many Dems, and he STILL...
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:21 PM
Nov 9

had to give some "The Treatment" to get the 1960 Civil Rights Bill through.

My point was, the OP was being a bit unrealistic to think that Schumer could have controlled the 10 who sold us out.

LudwigPastorius

(14,047 posts)
6. That was my point.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:45 PM
Nov 9

LBJ was a unique Democratic Senate leader, capable of manipulating the caucus despite opposing forces in the party.

Expecting Schumer to “herd cats” like that is overly optimistic. What leverage could he hold over Senators that are retiring, or lost causes like Fetterman?

iemanja

(57,314 posts)
9. I never claimed I had evidence
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:54 PM
Nov 9

I asked how you knew he wasn’t behind it. Your response was to turn it on me, which doesn’t answer the question.

LudwigPastorius

(14,047 posts)
10. So, prove he wasn't, eh?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:26 PM
Nov 9

Setting aside just how it might be possible to prove a negative, I'll just say that I take the Democratic leader of the Senate for his word...and his NO vote for its face value.

iemanja

(57,314 posts)
11. So you must have heard Schumer denounce
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:29 PM
Nov 9

the deal, given your certainty that he opposed it. Can you provide a link to that announcement?

iemanja

(57,314 posts)
13. It's late, so I won't watch the video now.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:04 AM
Nov 10

But I thank you for providing it. I’ll have a look tomorrow.

yaesu

(8,893 posts)
2. Well, they are probably going to need their great government healthcare to get braces for their weak knees
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:09 PM
Nov 9

or brain worm meds.

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