Former President Bill Clinton is demanding full transparency from the Epstein files and accuses trump of coverup

[LetMyPeopleVote]

trump is trying to use President Clinton to distract. This will not work

Link to tweet

[Uncle Joe]

1. Kicked and recommended

Thanks for the thread LetMyPeopleVote

[FakeNoose]

2. Bill Clinton is not "running and hiding" anywhere - he's been right out in the open on this thing

Chump is the one who's try to hide. Chump is such a lying weasel and now he's getting the Repukes to believe that it's all about Clinton and not him.

Once again, the mistaken belief in "presidential immunity" has no bearing here. Whatever crimes Chump committed in cahoots with Epstein happened long before he was president. He has no immunity and he can't claim it now. The Supreme Court cannot get him out of this one.

[CentralMass]

4. The Orange Pantoad has as of yet been untouchable.

[dem4decades]

7. He only gets richer and more powerful, some lesson.

[PatSeg]

18. But he also get older and sicker at the same time

All that money and power won't mean squat if he is sick and dying.

[pandr32]

113. Yes, and much of the wealth is our money.

[CentralMass]

23. Well we have him for 1,125 more days. I suspect he'll last the term and beyond

[LetMyPeopleVote]

109. I hope that you are wrong

Trump is not well and may not last much longer

[OldBaldy1701E]

112. He is not untouchable.

No one wants to 'touch' him is the problem.

Mainly because of what will come out once they start that snowball rolling.

So, they won't do it because they are beholden to their 'sugar daddies'.

[ChazInAz]

114. I Fervently hope

That "Pantoad" is the word you were aiming for!
Somehow it evokes a wonderfully surreal image of the Hellbeast.
Thank you.

[Trueblue1968]

58. President Clinton.should investigate to see if he can Sue donald Rump !!!!!!

[ananda]

62. Also, if they try to prosecute him...

they would have to make full disclosure.

[Silent Type]

3. Sorry, but was disappointed in seeing Clinton's photos. trump is still a POS and rapist, but Clinton shouldn't escape.

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Would be interested in how folks feel about these photos. The second one below is kind of hard to excuse. trump is still guilty, but what about others-- Clinton, Gates, Dimon, Chomsky, Derkowhich (?), etc.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/see-photos-and-documents-from-the-latest-epstein-file-release

Here’s Tim Kaine saying he owes an explanation.

Guess we’ll bash him too.

[regnaD kciN]

6. No fan of Clinton, but...

…his demand that they make public all information in the files about him suggests he feels he has nothing to hide.

And the fact that Bondi released a long-available, public domain photo of Clinton, Michael Jackson, and Diana Ross, along with their children, except that the kids have their faces redacted to give the impression that they were some of Epstein’s trafficked children, makes me even more suspicious that this may be a deliberate hit-job. I’m all in favor of tossing Bill behind bars if he was found to be involved in sexually assaulting children, but his response here is the first time I’ve thought there might be nothing behind such accusations.

[dem4decades]

8. If there was any dirty on Clinton it would have been released before.

[NCDem47]

19. Agree. Trump would have relased it in his first term!

[calimary]

95. Good point.

Actually, an EXCELLENT point!

That old “drag Clinton into it” distraction strategy won’t be working so well for trump anymore.

[Silent Type]

9. Sorry, I think he feels he can lie to us about it, just like trump. Clinton's hot tub photo was it for me. Clinton ought

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to be apologizing and trying to make it right for the victims, not trying to blame it on trump DOJ.

Again, trump is still a rapist and POS, but not impressed with Clinton's press release.

Would be interested in how folks feel about these photos. The second one below is kind of hard to excuse. trump is still guilty, but what about others-- Clinton, Gates, Dimon, Chomsky, Derkowhich (?), etc.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/see-photos-and-documents-from-the-latest-epstein-file-release

[NotHardly]

10. It was likely Hillary in the redacted photo

You jumped the shark honey.

[ShazzieB]

21. Do you have a link to that photo?

I have not seen it.

[obamanut2012]

30. He was not at Epstein's place lol

He was in a public pool surrounded by people.

You are saying stuff that isn't accurate.

[Silent Type]

38. Assuming you accept BBC as factual, look at these. If it's not Epstein's or one of his his "parties,"

Where is it?

Like trump, Clinton should explain.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8r38ne1x2mo

[doublethink]

63. It was specifically Brunei Darussalm Boerno Southeast Asia at the ...

Empire Hotel. Fact. Again see post #35 in this thread. Have to debunk this shit propaganda, nip it in the bud immediately. Peace.

[obamanut2012]

77. It was at a public hotel with many other people

Just stop it.

[doublethink]

35. WASN'T EPSTEIN'S HOT TUB OR EPSTEIN'S PLACE !!!

Geesh... Sorry for yelling lol ... but first get your facts straight. The pics were taken in the Empire Hotel, Brunei Darussalm. Borneo, Southeast Asia. The Pool and Hot Tub ....

Start from the 9 minute mark of this video for proof.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220881023

If Bill wants all this stuff out there .... lets see it then. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty in this country? Assumptions make a fool out of you and me etc .... lol. Same ol same ol... NOT EPSTEIN'S POOL. Let's just start with 'facts'. Have a great afternoon.

[doublethink]

54. Where is your proof on that assumption why Clinton was there?

WTF? EPSTEIN IS DEAD. AND NOT IN THE POOL PICS EITHER. HOW THE HELL IS A DEAD PERSON GOING TO EXPLAIN? RELEASE THE FILES F%$#k !!! Geesh ... you're NOT being at all logical and just again being incoherent. Not worth my time anymore conversing with you. All the best and Merry Christmas anyway.

[KS Toronado]

60. Thanks for your #35

In a hotel pool overseas, wonder how much MSM will mention this?

[doublethink]

65. No problem, the pics of the pool are easily accessible online.

But our MSM is either complicit or just lazy now-a-days. Our power is debunking IMMEDIATELY, AND spreading the truth fast, far and wide. Either on Social Media, Word Of Mouth, however we can like a wildfire. We all have a part. Merry Christmas!

[pnwmom]

69. Clinton is ASKING for all the records to be released. He needs to explain nothing. nt

[KS Toronado]

97. "hot tub at Epstein's place" ?

Video provided by post #35 proves it was an overseas hotel swimming pool and everyone was wearing
swimming suits and no Epstein in sight. Simply more of the DOJ lying about President Clinton as another
distraction from dumpie's own Epstein problem. That's two sets of photos now there was absolutely no way
the DOJ found them in the Epstein files.

Pam Bondi and others in the DOJ should be behind bars for their masquerade.

[Tommy Carcetti]

98. Not at Epstein's place

It was a hotel pool at a stop during one of the Clinton Foundation’s tours.

Epstein helped fundraise for the Foundation and lent it his plane since the Clintons didn’t have a plane of their own. I’m assuming he came along for the ride.

In 20/20 hindsight it’s shitty optics but this was before Epstein’s crimes were known.

[obamanut2012]

28. He was literally at a public pool

At a conference. How do you know who was next to him? It wasn't Hillary, but it could have been. They blacked out Diana Ross' own kids to make it look like she and Clinton were being pedos, instead of presenting together at a fundraiser.

You are really buying into the Bondi Coverup hook, line, and sinker.

[Silent Type]

41. Or an Epstein party. I'm for going after rapists, whether trump, Gates, Clinton, Dimon, a prince, etc.

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Would be interested in how folks feel about these photos. The second one below is kind of hard to excuse. trump is still guilty, but what about others-- Clinton, Gates, Dimon, Chomsky, Derkowhich (?), etc.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/see-photos-and-documents-from-the-latest-epstein-file-release

[doublethink]

64. For a 'Silent Type' ...

you sure uhhh got a lot to say ... all in fun. Thanks for keeping it uhhh interesting

[obamanut2012]

78. Dude, please just stop it

You just called Bill Clinton a rapist with no proof.

[FHRRK]

88. While you and I likely would agree on one thing

That is, why the fuck would the Clintons come within 100 yards of the pieces of shit Epstein and Maxwell, we are on much different paths.

I see a picture with Clinton in a pool, one female blocked out, one looks like Maxwell. You seem ready to convict based on that. Possible explanations, the Clintons were swimming in a pool, Maxwell jumps in and a pic is snapped.

Now, we also should agree that the Jackson/Ross photo was absolute bullshit, agree?

So if one bullshit pic is pushed by the DOJ, I am definitely going to question the veracity of other photos.

[NBachers]

51. *#%$&@(?)*

[MorbidButterflyTat]

66. "Just like" Piggy??

Why do you keep apologizing?

There's no comparison. Clinton is demanding the complete files' release; Piggy is a pedophile rapist and sex trafficker.

Sorry. There's no comparison.

[FHRRK]

87. What do you see in that photo?

Serious question.

[PatSeg]

20. Yeah, talk about the gang who couldn't shoot straight

That was such a lame attempt to incriminate Clinton as a distraction. These idiots are very good at this kind of deceit.

[Autumn]

11. You might want to read the statement. What he is demanding of the DOJ proved to me

Bill Clinton has nothing to hide and has done nothing wrong.

[Silent Type]

17. Yeah, like trump and all the others called for full release. Clinton and trump need to explain, rather than cover up.

[Kingofalldems]

25. I notice you put Clinton's name first.

He doesn't have the files--Trump does.

[Silent Type]

29. Read. I didn't say files. I said they need to "explain." trump can go first for all I care. Clinton is just

covering his rear, shifting blame from his own actions, etc. Lawyers probably told him to do it.

[sheshe2]

67. By your own words...

Clinton is just covering his rear, shifting blame from his own actions, etc. Lawyers probably told him to do it.

Seems to me that you have tried and convicted Clinton. Correct me if I am wrong, but if he is "covering his own rear" as you stated then he is, in your mind guilty.

[orangecrush]

85. I already smashed the button

On the bullshit.

[sheshe2]

89. Thank you, orangecrush.

It is unbelievable to see this here on DU.

[orangecrush]

92. My pleasure

[obamanut2012]

33. There is literally nothing to explain

It is gobsmacking to me you are putting a spin on pix that show nothing weird, and one of them was 100% manipulated and added (the one with him and Jackosn, and Diana Ross and her kids).


Interesting to me you are buying the coverup.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

70. And doubling

tripling, and quadrupling down.

[obamanut2012]

79. Seriously

And the poster is literally making stuff up and posting it ie was an Epstein Party at Epstein Island, when it was literally at a public hotel pool with other people cropped out by the DOJ, like teh Diana Ross pic.

[Easterncedar]

90. He's a troll

If it had been incriminating of Clinton, all of it would have been released. Note how the DoJ included a publicity photo of Clinton and Diana Ross? They’ve got nothing.

[Autumn]

45. Then you have not paid any attention. Bill Clinton has talked several times about

why he was on Epstein's plane. Clinton has never been on that rape Island and Bill has never had events with him like the orange sack of shit has.

[NBachers]

55. Dog gnawing at a bone.

[Gosmudgeyourself]

86. Getting a seriously uneasy feeling regarding your ABSOLUTE INSISTENCE

Mr Clinton is guilty of sheesh 🙄, must be guilty of SOMETHING, no matter what facts with appropriate links, are put before you. Just wondering WHY you are really here? Finding it IMPOSSIBLE you are fighting so bloody hard for this particular DOJ, which at this point should carry the label DOf INJUSTICE. They’ve shown who and what they’re about ad nauseum. Where you been?? Not paying attention it appears

[Cha]

121. You Are Wrong.. Why Won't you just Admit it?

[maxrandb]

12. Sure Jan

Your post sounds a little like this; "Hey, Mega dittos Rush. Let me tell you, I am a lifelong Democrat, but......."

[obamanut2012]

34. Source was Bill Clinton is implicated as a pedo/rapist?

You are creating that from nothing but air.

[EdmondDantes_]

14. But those pictures don't show anything

I find Clinton's affairs awful and if true the multiple accusations of sexual violence even worse, but sitting in a hot tub or with his arm around but not touching a girl/young woman's waist aren't crimes.

This is the problem with releasing random pictures that aren't part of a specific allegation. Shockingly a rich guy trying to maximize his power met with lots of powerful, rich, or important people. Doesn't mean they were involved with any crime.

[KS Toronado]

24. Wish I'd seen the photos you people are talking about

if dumpie will manipulate a photo with Bill, Diana Ross and Jackson and claim "look what we found in the
Epstein files", I'd damn sure add 2 & 2 together and assume this hot tub photo was manipulated also.

Where can this hot tub photo be found? Time for a little search by image.

[Silent Type]

31. Simply search under "Clinton in hot tub at Epstein's place." We can't hide it, unfortunately.

[doublethink]

42. See my post #35 up thread Proof, not Epsteins Pool or hot tub. ...

Fact.

[Silent Type]

46. I'm sorry, Epstein's party in Asia.

[obamanut2012]

81. WILL YOU STOP SPREADING DISINFORMATION

You have been told many times this was at a public pool at a conference and not a party on anyone's island.

[niyad]

107. JFC, just stop already. You only continue to embarrass yourself.

[obamanut2012]

80. Again, not at Epstein's place

At a public hotel pool.

[EdmondDantes_]

32. Here you go

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/19/trump-world-takes-shots-at-favorite-boogeyman-bill-clinton-in-epstein-file-dump-00701780

The two pictures I referenced are at the top of this article.

[KS Toronado]

52. Did a search for the photos

found a couple really large ones that show Bill is wearing his dark colored swimming trunks, and the one
with the 2 women in a swimming pool with him, they both have their bikinis on. Believe the one FQX is
calling a hot tub is in the same swimming pool. Surprised someone here hasn't gotten a hide.

[NBachers]

56. I am subtly trying, but maybe it's time for more direct activity.

[obamanut2012]

82. Yup

Now saying it was an Epstein Party in Asia.

They keep moving the goalposts.

[obamanut2012]

36. The "hot tub" photo was at a public pool with a bunch of people

It is being misrepresented in thsi thread.

Clinton is a cheater, not a rapist of minors.

[questionseverything]

91. I'm old enough to remember clinton looking into the camera, swearing to the American people

I did not have sexual relations with that woman!

Guess what, that was a lie. Why is this different?

[Tommy Carcetti]

102. Claiming Clinton's past consensual affairs is somehow proof he is guilty of sexual abuse of minors...

…is no different than bigots who claim gay men who have consensual relationships with other gay men are all child sex abusers.

For God’s sake, man…

[questionseverything]

103. I didn't say it was proof or even accuse him of anything but

The poster I responded to thought clinton should be believed while I pointed out he has lied before

[W_HAMILTON]

106. Do you believe Epstein's victims?

Because none of them have said Clinton ever did anything inappropriate with them; in fact, one of the victims (Davies) in the pictures that some deplorables are using to try to smear Clinton has said that Clinton was a "perfect gentleman" when she met him during a humanitarian trip to Africa to help with AIDS awareness.

[obamanut2012]

110. I am talking about the facts of the photo

It has nothing to do what Bill Clinton is saying. The facts of the photo are that it was at a public pool at a hotel while Clinton was at a conference/fundraising tour. Epstein was not there.

[doublethink]

40. See my post in this thread #35 up there ....

Not Epstein's pool or hot tub. Fact.

[doublethink]

50. Fundraiser.

[obamanut2012]

83. INFO: Why do you keep psoting up made up stuff?

None of this is true.

[pnwmom]

22. Escape what? It's important to know the dates of those photos and other details

before judging what Clinton may or may not have done.

[doublethink]

44. See post # 35 up thread.

Not Epsteins pool.

[obamanut2012]

27. Epstein did a huge amount of fundraising and hobnobbing

Not everyone in the photos are pedophiles, and survivors have pointedly said Bill Clinton didn't do anything with them.

None of the photos show anything sketchy of him.

[Kali]

43. Hell, Susie Wiles said Clinton wasn't involved

[obamanut2012]

84. Right?!

[radical noodle]

61. There was a time when Epstein's crimes were unknown to most

Epstein worked hard to seem legit and as a wealthy person familiar with financial matters he was often in the company of important people who knew nothing at the time of his crimes.

[lostnfound]

104. Epstein's schtick was to lure the famous, whether guilty or innocent, under guise of charity, to create opportunity

influence peddling. Epstein got credibility by pulling in famous people, pretending to be interested in supporting their foundations and charity work, creating opportunity and networking for himself and his guests.

Some wanted his perverse activities, while others might have been lured in just enough to be subject to blackmail based on ‘appearance of impropriety’.

So photos of Clinton prove nothing. If he was participating with underage girls, disclose it and prosecute. The DOJ would have shown it if they had anything actually incriminating. Epstein’s victim Chauntae Davies was 22 years old, and she was photographed — fully clothed — massaging the shoulders of a fully clothed Bill Clinton; she described him as ‘a perfect gentleman’.

[niyad]

108. I see this poster is ffr'd, 6 hides in last 90 days.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

118. I notice that also

[MustLoveBeagles]

5. K&R

[Volaris]

16. Ha! Trump has no idea how fucked he is lol...

Bill Clinton is a lot of things to a lot of people, but he's never been that kind of dumb. He just called trumps bluff, and there will be a screaming fit in the WH today, and I'm here for it.
Played like a master...Bill knows they have NOTHING on him.

[Srkdqltr]

26. Is there a "clean" copy of all this material?

[obamanut2012]

37. No

[Srkdqltr]

71. So there is absolutely no copy that is readable? Without blackouts? I mean the government papers.

That's scary.

[obamanut2012]

75. Nope

Some documents other parties will have, bit not all.

[Wiz Imp]

101. There is absolutely no way to know whether that is true or not. I suspect it is not.

[doublethink]

49. Again see post 35 upthread ...

Pool and hot tub is in Brunei Darussalm Boreno Souteast Asia. Fact.

[Mike Nelson]

47. The obvious attempt...

... to make Clinton seem like the abuser will fail. Researching the "scandalous" photos reveals they are presented falsely. The one with Diana Ross has her kids "redacted". It's NOT even an Epstein photo! Plus, the singer has always had tight caregivers - not even Michael Jackson would get near her kids. And, the "hot tub" photo isn't an Epstein photo, either... distract, distract, distract...

[Wiz Imp]

100. The picture actually includes Michael Jackson's kids Paris & Prince and Diana Ross' son.

[Aussie105]

53. A purely innocent photo

can be made suspicious by simply 'redacting' the face of a person in it.

Those black blobs work both ways.
Protect the guilty and implicate the innocent.

[IcyPeas]

93. True. Reminds me of the Jimmy Kimmel skit "This Week in Unnecessary Censorship"

where he bleeps out certain words but our brains automatically fill in the blanks.....

[doc03]

57. I have seen absolutely nothing that shows Clinton had

relations with a minor. Bill Clinton must be confident he is in the clear or he wouldn't want
the files released.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

59. Also, none of the victims have ever accused him of anything n/t

[obamanut2012]

76. They have actually done the opposite

They say he didn't do anything to any of them.

[Wiz Imp]

99. I'm not aware of any victims who've come out publicly of having ever even met Clinton.

Now, none of the public victims have accused Trump of any wrongdoing but quite a few met him and several have said they felt uncomfortable when they were in the presence of Trump and Epstein at the same time.

[questionseverything]

94. He was named as an abuser by sarah ransome in 2008

When she went to the police they ignored and ridiculed her and we know Florida gave Epstein a sweetheart deal

The rich men she named harassed her to the point she recanted but I choose to believe the victims

There’s a guardian article from jan 8, 2024 that lays things out but he has been accused

[obamanut2012]

111. She retracted those accusations, why didn't you say that, too?

She said she was mistaken.

Very interesting you left that part of.

As I said, Bill Clinton is not implicated. I am right.

[Buddyzbuddy]

68. Hey! You fat orange Felon, that's how you clear your name,

if you're innocent, which you clearly are not.
Bill Clinton, although far from perfect knows he's not guilty of the crimes you are being accused of and therefore demands full disclosure of all evidence. Only the actual guilty parties would object to it's release.

GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!

[Torchlight]

72. This bad for trump.

And worse for those who want the narrative to be about anyone else.

[erronis]

73. I know I can hide comments from a one disruptive poster (ST)

but I still like to see the lies that they promulgate.

How about down votes?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

117. I think that the poster you are referring to has been dealt with

[thought crime]

74. Demanding full transparency is the right thing to do.

Release the evidence. All of it. Clinton was not Epstein's best buddy.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

119. Compare and contrast how President Clinton handled this matter to trump's lies

[Kingofalldems]

96. Gatekeepers not liking this thread.

Kick and Rec.

[Catherine Vincent]

105. Yes!

I was waiting on Clinton and his team to step up. They should sue Trump's DOJ!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

115. Clinton is NOT afraid of these files

[LetMyPeopleVote]

116. What would someone who is mentioned in the #Epstein files do, if he or she believes that he or she is totally innocent

Lawrence asked the question "With the world now wondering about the 10 co-conspirators who Jeffrey #Epstein referred to in some of the #EpsteinFiles released today, it is worth considering...what would someone who is mentioned in the #Epstein files do, if he or she believes that he or she is totally innocent of any wrongdoing with Jeffrey Epstein?"

Former President Bill Clinton's office (told DOJ to release everything)...and there it is, that's the model for how you handle the situation if...you believe you did nothing wrong...Donald Trump has never demanded that

@lawrenceodonnell.bsky.social: Trump was flying with Epstein around the time FBI got its first tip about Epstein youtu.be/mhPvffgGBbc?...

— The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell (@lastwordmsnow.bsky.social) 2025-12-24T04:44:38.269Z

[oasis]

120. Stay on Trump's ass and don't let up!!!