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LetMyPeopleVote

(175,800 posts)
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:58 AM Dec 24

'Hugely consequential': Experts say Supreme Court just wrecked Trump's plans

I admit that I was surprised by this ruling. SCOTUS may be waking up as to trump's misuse of the military.

'Hugely consequential': Experts say Supreme Court just wrecked Trump's plans

www.rawstory.com/supreme-cour...

Michael Byron #Fella (@michaelby.bsky.social) 2025-12-24T02:30:22.213Z

https://www.rawstory.com/supreme-court-2674826050/

President Donald Trump got a rare and devastating blow at the Supreme Court on Tuesday, as three right-wing justices joined with the three liberals to deny a stay of a lower court ruling that prevents him from federalizing the National Guard to deploy troops to Chicago — and said the administration is unlikely to prevail when the case is litigated on the merits.....

"The Supreme Court just agreed: President Trump violated the law by deploying the National Guard in Illinois," wrote New Jersey Attorney General Matt Platkin. "Proud to stand with @ILAttyGeneral [and] my colleagues in successfully opposing this unnecessary and unlawful deployment."

Yet another key analysis came from American Immigration Council senior fellow Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, a lawyer who has frequently criticized the Trump administration's immigration policy.

"Wow. Genuinely shocked, and a hugely consequential decision. This is a case where [law professor] Marty Lederman's amicus brief appears to have made a MAJOR impact. Before he wrote it, courts were sidestepping the 'regular forces' issue entirely. And that's what the Trump admin lost on," wrote Reichlin-Melnick. "The law Trump used to federalize the National Guard requires him to be 'unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States.' The Court today agrees with Professor Lederman that 'regular forces' means the U.S. military, which used to be called 'the regulars.'"

"There are other laws which permit the President to call up the National Guard, the most famous of which is the Insurrection Act. But Trump has not invoked that law. Instead, he invoked a law which had strict prerequisites, which the Supreme Court ruled were not met," wrote Reichlin-Melnick. Additionally, "the majority finds at this stage that the President does not have inherent authority to deploy the military to protect ICE property, therefore allowing him to 'execute' the laws with the military. The majority says no."
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'Hugely consequential': Experts say Supreme Court just wrecked Trump's plans (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Dec 24 OP
They'll just send in more ICE goons... johnnyplankton Dec 24 #1
Yea popsdenver Dec 24 #24
The Sick Fuck BlueMTexpat Dec 24 #2
I would hope that the Supreme Court is waking up to their stupid decision to give Trump immunity for most actions. Lonestarblue Dec 24 #3
well, yes. but a completely different issue (of course) stopdiggin Dec 24 #4
Well immunity gives him the ability Farmer-Rick Dec 25 #33
non sequitur. that is not what 'immunity' means - nor what the court said. stopdiggin Dec 25 #36
In all practical purpose it does Farmer-Rick Dec 26 #37
The Supreme Court hasn't ruled yet on Trump's global tariffs. sop Dec 24 #5
If SCOTUS goes against Trump on the tariffs.... RussBLib Dec 24 #7
Promise? vapor2 Dec 24 #19
no RussBLib Dec 24 #20
The Republican Party popsdenver Dec 24 #25
Yes. Although Steve Miller and Russell Vought already use Project 2025 as a day-to-day game plan... Mister Ed Dec 25 #29
BINGO........M.E. popsdenver Dec 25 #35
Either way Akakoji Dec 25 #31
This received very little coverage on M$Greedia malaise Dec 24 #6
on Wed., 12-12:30 NJCher Dec 24 #8
True - but it was barely mentioned in Prime Time malaise Dec 24 #12
2 of the 3 major networks covered it RussBLib Dec 24 #22
Precisely malaise Dec 25 #30
CBS News reported it online. Thats where I saw it Callie1979 Dec 24 #23
In the dissent: Chellee Dec 24 #9
There you have it Mysterian Dec 24 #13
I was sure that 2 of them were Alito and Thomas and was not disappointed there! ShazzieB Dec 24 #15
Good news. Martin68 Dec 24 #10
So I expect he will invoke the insurrection act very soon. Bev54 Dec 24 #11
They always do -- for him. live love laugh Dec 24 #18
This decision could impact Trump's ability to deploy national guard to other states LetMyPeopleVote Dec 24 #14
Yeah, Psycho PEDO's fucking Cha Dec 24 #17
Uh oh.. mountain grammy Dec 24 #16
Negotiating time lame54 Dec 24 #21
K&R spanone Dec 24 #26
He needs to be stopped in regards to Greenland. C Moon Dec 24 #27
As if he cares JoseBalow Dec 25 #28
I know... weird, isn't it? OldBaldy1701E Dec 25 #32
"... no one seems capable of stopping this crap." JoseBalow Dec 25 #34
Two late Trump court defeats 'could make a big difference in 2026': analyst LetMyPeopleVote Dec 26 #38
So, what does he do? kentuck Dec 26 #39

popsdenver

(1,722 posts)
24. Yea
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:10 PM
Dec 24

or just send them to other cities.............

In addition to amassing an even bigger military presence off shore of some sovereign nation that has done NOTHING WRONG.....

Lonestarblue

(13,271 posts)
3. I would hope that the Supreme Court is waking up to their stupid decision to give Trump immunity for most actions.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:48 AM
Dec 24

He has interpreted that decision as him being above the law and free to do whatever he wants.

stopdiggin

(15,091 posts)
4. well, yes. but a completely different issue (of course)
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:58 AM
Dec 24

Last edited Thu Dec 25, 2025, 02:24 PM - Edit history (1)

Here the administration argues that the president has the power and every right ..
(and nothing to do with immunity)

Farmer-Rick

(12,520 posts)
33. Well immunity gives him the ability
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 08:23 AM
Dec 25

To ignore any ruling the Supremes spit out without repercussions. What happens to the pedo if he violated all the rulings of the Supremes? The answer is Nothing. He has immunity to everything. No one can hold him accountable so why not just act out his every whim?

The only thing that remains that might hold the pedo accountable would be impeachment.

stopdiggin

(15,091 posts)
36. non sequitur. that is not what 'immunity' means - nor what the court said.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 02:34 PM
Dec 25

Plus it is logically inconsistent. If you ignore court rulings (intentionally) - then immunity de facto has become an irrelevancy. It is only when you are constrained by the court and its rulings - that immunity means anything.

(And it should go without saying - that the court has NEVER said that the executive (or president) may ignore court rulings.)

Farmer-Rick

(12,520 posts)
37. In all practical purpose it does
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 03:08 PM
Dec 26

And once a court gives such sweeping immunity to an office holder, the court has given up their power to prosecute him. Then the office holder can take illegal action to ensure they stay in that office.

The supremes did not give him power to ignore their rulings but they gave up their power to prosecute him for ignoring their rulings and hold him accountable for ignoring their rulings while he is in office, as long as he cloaks it as official duties verbage. In all practical purpose he can claim he ignored them in his official capacity.

RussBLib

(10,443 posts)
20. no
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:22 PM
Dec 24

I did say "I think...."

That orange fucker is going down, however (eventually! lol)

popsdenver

(1,722 posts)
25. The Republican Party
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:13 PM
Dec 24

would love to get rid of Trump. They just want to not lose all his Trumphumper 70 Million voters.
They would much rather install Steve Miller AND Russell Vought and have them use the 2025 document as a day by day game plan.......

Mister Ed

(6,847 posts)
29. Yes. Although Steve Miller and Russell Vought already use Project 2025 as a day-to-day game plan...
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 04:10 AM
Dec 25

...the GOP would rather have someone doing that directly, rather than having to do it through the unstable and erratic Trump.

malaise

(293,484 posts)
12. True - but it was barely mentioned in Prime Time
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:51 PM
Dec 24

I saw it when the news broke

🎄🎄🎄

RussBLib

(10,443 posts)
22. 2 of the 3 major networks covered it
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:29 PM
Dec 24

I record ABC, CBS, and NBC Nightly News on the DVR and (usually) play them back shortly after recording. I'm pretty sure that ABC and NBC covered it. ABC even previewed it, NBC just snuck the story in without a preview, and CBS didn't mention it at all. Not surprising, I guess, considering the recent stomach-turning events at CBS. Still, it was only "reported" with no editorial comment.

Chellee

(2,290 posts)
9. In the dissent:
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:35 PM
Dec 24

Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch.

Just so you know who does believe that the military should be roaming the streets of American cities.

ShazzieB

(22,279 posts)
15. I was sure that 2 of them were Alito and Thomas and was not disappointed there!
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 07:15 PM
Dec 24

This means that the "supermajority" split 3-3 over this. It's good to see them not acting as a monolith for once.

Bev54

(13,268 posts)
11. So I expect he will invoke the insurrection act very soon.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:48 PM
Dec 24

SCOTUS guided him on the way to go.

Cha

(317,370 posts)
17. Yeah, Psycho PEDO's fucking
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 07:40 PM
Dec 24

agenda is Destroying America.. unless we STOPO him & Nazi boy Miller and Couch boy Vance.

mountain grammy

(28,747 posts)
16. Uh oh..
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 07:24 PM
Dec 24

now I fear for the 14th Amendment. They always follow a sane ruling with absolute insanity.

JoseBalow

(9,220 posts)
28. As if he cares
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 02:58 AM
Dec 25

Give me a break. Those douchebags gave him immunity, he'll keep doing whatever he wants. Who's going to stop him?

OldBaldy1701E

(10,438 posts)
32. I know... weird, isn't it?
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 07:52 AM
Dec 25

340.1 million people in this country and no one seems capable of stopping this crap.

I find that VERY telling...

VERY...

JoseBalow

(9,220 posts)
34. "... no one seems capable of stopping this crap."
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 11:52 AM
Dec 25

Which just emboldens him to keep doubling down.

We are in a death spiral, and nobody is stopping it. He won't stop on his own.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,800 posts)
38. Two late Trump court defeats 'could make a big difference in 2026': analyst
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 04:26 PM
Dec 26

Maybe SCOTUS is not going to give trump everything he wants

Two late Trump court defeats 'could make a big difference in 2026': analyst

Raw Story (@rawstory.com) 2025-12-26T20:01:22.528Z

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-cpourt-loss/

Two significant legal setbacks for Donald Trump's administration are likely to have substantial implications as the president enters 2026.

According to former White House correspondent Brian Karem, the Trump administration's winning streak with the conservative Supreme Court ended abruptly when the court blocked the president's attempt to deploy the National Guard to cities on a whim and as a show of force. A separate defeat came when a federal court rejected administration efforts to revoke security clearances from Trump critics.....

The Supreme Court's ruling represented a rare rebuke of the administration. Trump had argued in an October appeal that violence directed at Department of Homeland Security agents conducting immigration enforcement operations in Chicago justified deploying the National Guard.

"The conservative Supreme Court didn’t buy it," he wrote.

According to the decision, "At this preliminary stage, the Government has failed to identify a source of authority that would allow the military to execute the laws in Illinois." The court noted there was no legal basis for overriding the Posse Comitatus Act, which severely restricts the use of U.S. military forces within the United States.



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