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malaise

(293,443 posts)
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 03:07 PM Dec 25

Everyone got the gag here. I don't think she's long for this White House."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/25/trump-chief-of-staff-susie-wiles

“It was Susie Wiles saying out loud what she thinks and what she says in private to her colleagues. I don’t think she was taking a shot at JD Vance in order to elevate Marco Rubio or prepare the next step of her career. I just don’t think it’s that complicated.”

But some political commentators regard Wiles’s seemingly indiscreet remarks as the rumblings of a conscience and an attempt to rescue her legacy before a departure from the White House that may come to seem inevitable.

Rick Wilson, a political strategist and cofounder of the Lincoln Project, an anti-Trump group, said: “I’ve known Susie all my political life. There is 0.000 chance that this incredibly sophisticated and experienced political operative did 11 interviews on tape and did not know exactly what she was doing.

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Everyone got the gag here. I don't think she's long for this White House." (Original Post) malaise Dec 25 OP
Second para from the top canetoad Dec 25 #1
Haha - good morning😀 malaise Dec 25 #6
Go WI! nt spooky3 Dec 25 #7
Go OZ malaise Dec 25 #8
Maybe she is trying to sabotage the election. Irish_Dem Dec 25 #17
My Magic 8 Ball says if/when Wiles is cut loose, she's gonna sing like a songbird Brother Buzz Dec 25 #2
And maybe that is why she hasn't been fired. Bluetus Dec 25 #9
Oh my, she better take the sheets off of her bed! nt Hope22 Dec 25 #11
She's gonna have to change the sheets when she wakes up with a horse head in the bed Brother Buzz Dec 25 #13
And that will be the kindest thing they do to here. Hope22 Dec 25 #14
If only to save what's left of her career and legacy... paleotn Dec 25 #19
Susie doesn't need a career ... when she's out the door she'll write a book and live off it forever FakeNoose Dec 25 #26
Yep! mountain grammy Dec 25 #30
Yep. She is smart so she's sees the pendulum is changing directions Attilatheblond Dec 26 #33
Legacy. People care about that. paleotn Dec 26 #34
I said a few months back that Wiles would be the first out the door Aviation Pro Dec 25 #3
Stephen Miller liberalgunwilltravel Dec 25 #10
Pretty much goes for all of them. The inner circle. paleotn Dec 25 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author lrucks1952 Dec 26 #35
Spot on Aviation Pro duckworth969 Dec 25 #12
"Woke as Fuck" here too! Evolve Dammit Dec 25 #27
"...she's gonna sing like a songbird." J_William_Ryan Dec 25 #4
I would suggest that there might be one or two strongly worded letters Permanut Dec 25 #5
Chris Whipple, who did the VF interviews, has a different perspective. GoCubsGo Dec 25 #15
Thanks malaise Dec 25 #16
I just watched this about an hour ago and NJCher Dec 25 #22
Excellent malaise Dec 25 #24
No rescuing your legacy if you were in Trump's close orbit. You just go on to your next grift or you fade to black. dutch777 Dec 25 #18
My takeaway: Vile is a horrible, horrible person Wild blueberry Dec 25 #21
from the interview mentioned above NJCher Dec 25 #23
The real bloodbath will be after the midterms Warpy Dec 25 #25
I think what we are seeing is an awakening of those within the republican party who want Trump out. patphil Dec 25 #28
"the rumblings of a conscience" LudwigPastorius Dec 25 #29
Conscience, nonsense. (I almost made a rime here.) She was up his orange ass during the 1st administration. 3Hotdogs Dec 25 #31
K&R red dog 1 Dec 25 #32
I think Rick Wilson has this right. But it doesn't explain why she would have let herself be drawn Texin Dec 26 #36
Power is enticing & she probably thought she could handle him TBF Dec 26 #37

canetoad

(20,314 posts)
1. Second para from the top
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 03:17 PM
Dec 25

"The US president was referring to his chief of staff, who he said had persuaded him to return to the campaign trail ahead of the 2026 congressional midterm elections."

That sounds like she's secretly trying to kill him. Good morning!

Irish_Dem

(80,156 posts)
17. Maybe she is trying to sabotage the election.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 04:50 PM
Dec 25

Or just wanted the SOB out of the WH for a couple of weeks.

Bluetus

(2,370 posts)
9. And maybe that is why she hasn't been fired.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 04:06 PM
Dec 25

"Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer."

Hope22

(4,500 posts)
14. And that will be the kindest thing they do to here.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 04:35 PM
Dec 25

Amazing how many dead people are related to this case!

paleotn

(21,695 posts)
19. If only to save what's left of her career and legacy...
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 05:52 PM
Dec 25

This is going to end one way or another. And if history is any guide, it swings hard to the other side. When it does, those without an "I really wasn't one of them" card may very well get clobbered. After all this shit, the concept "for the good of the country" may have a whole different meaning than it has the last 20 years. Investigations, prosecutions and perhaps jail. I don't think Dems are going to hold back one bit this time. They damn sure better not. With something like that in mind, perhaps this is the beginning of Wiles putting some separation between her and the regime.

FakeNoose

(40,407 posts)
26. Susie doesn't need a career ... when she's out the door she'll write a book and live off it forever
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 07:19 PM
Dec 25

And I totally believe Rick Wilson - she knew exactly what she was doing in those interviews.


Attilatheblond

(8,389 posts)
33. Yep. She is smart so she's sees the pendulum is changing directions
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 08:36 AM
Dec 26

These recent interviews seem like a pre-publication book tour, maybe a campaign to get publishers in a bidding war for her upcoming book.

Aviation Pro

(15,291 posts)
3. I said a few months back that Wiles would be the first out the door
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 03:21 PM
Dec 25

She is anticipating the political bloodbath when the fucking pedophile goes horizontal and wants no part of it.

Just you watch as that fucking cuck Stephen Miller tries a coup to take the top job from the Couch Fucker.

Also, the first casualty in this circular firing squad will be MAGAt Mike Masterbater Johnson, the knives are out for that motherfucker.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,099 posts)
10. Stephen Miller
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 04:21 PM
Dec 25

Has the personality of a demented porcupine. He has no friends, no following, and no chance. And should he somehow get even close, the line to piss on his impending grave would be hundreds of miles long.

paleotn

(21,695 posts)
20. Pretty much goes for all of them. The inner circle.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 06:00 PM
Dec 25

Perhaps they're too stupid to know this doesn't end well for them. Not after all this. When their benefactor is gone, they'll all be pulled apart like rag dolls. With that in mind, maybe Wiles feels it's time to check the parachute and start looking for the exit.

In other news...Mitt Romney is worried about pitchforks. He should be. The reckoning is going to get ugly and it isn't going to just be this regime. Better get on the right side or his 0.1% buds might find their heads on figurative spikes. They were also part of this.

https://adamkinzinger.substack.com/p/mitt-romney-is-right-tax-the-rich

Response to liberalgunwilltravel (Reply #10)

duckworth969

(1,265 posts)
12. Spot on Aviation Pro
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 04:28 PM
Dec 25

Miller will make a play for Vance’s power and he’ll only get one chance to do it. JD is already getting slowly pushed aside. Rubio is brown and has no chance at the Big Chair. The wild card is Thiel. Will he toss aside Vance for Miller and Vought if they play ball with him?

GoCubsGo

(34,705 posts)
15. Chris Whipple, who did the VF interviews, has a different perspective.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 04:36 PM
Dec 25

He and Harry Litman had a discussion about her, and Whipple pretty much said she, like the rest of the White House, is in a media bubble, and they're pretty much detached from reality. He doesn't think Susie is going anywhere.

This interview is definitely worth your time:

NJCher

(42,591 posts)
22. I just watched this about an hour ago and
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 06:12 PM
Dec 25

yes, it's definitely worth the time. I'd add to your comments that she feels free to do anything she wants because she knows the orange gibbon needs her.

dutch777

(4,938 posts)
18. No rescuing your legacy if you were in Trump's close orbit. You just go on to your next grift or you fade to black.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 05:19 PM
Dec 25

I suppose dying from embarrassment and shame is also a possibility but that would assume some level of self respect and I think they all had to have that removed before they could work with Trump.

NJCher

(42,591 posts)
23. from the interview mentioned above
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 06:14 PM
Dec 25

She doesn't put the brakes on him. She lets him do any old stupid thing he wants.

She's a gatekeeper. In the first trump maladministration, anybody could walk in and throw something on his desk. No longer.

Big deal. Certainly not how I'd spend my career.

Warpy

(114,445 posts)
25. The real bloodbath will be after the midterms
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 06:56 PM
Dec 25

because even if we don't flip both houses of Congress we're going to make a big enough dent in the GOP's absolute control that Fatso will be shrieking with fear and rage and since it couldn't possibly be his fault,, he will be firing people all over the place.

I also don't think they're going to keep both houses of Congress, FWIW. (plink, plink)

patphil

(8,758 posts)
28. I think what we are seeing is an awakening of those within the republican party who want Trump out.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 10:12 PM
Dec 25

They smell blood on the water; the beginning of the end of the MAGAts. This is their chance to get rid of this guy without causing too much damage to themselves.
Yes, they're going to lose control of the House, and possible the Senate. But in the end they'll be free, even if it means a decade of rebuilding the republican party into something that can actually work for America.

The MAGAts were never a sustainable movement; too radical, and too focused on one man's perverse view of America. They were too consumed by hate to ever carry this nation forward. Their view of the future was too dependent on hate as a driving force force to propel the nation into the future.
It could never work.
I see this as a tactical sacrifice of position to allow a chance for traditional republicans to actually rally their forces.

We shall see what happens.

LudwigPastorius

(14,288 posts)
29. "the rumblings of a conscience"
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 11:07 PM
Dec 25

LOL

It's contract signer's remorse, but the joke's on her. Satan already has her soul in perpetuity.

3Hotdogs

(15,091 posts)
31. Conscience, nonsense. (I almost made a rime here.) She was up his orange ass during the 1st administration.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 11:39 PM
Dec 25

She knew what he was about but did whatever she could to get him elected.

red dog 1

(32,585 posts)
32. K&R
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 11:51 PM
Dec 25

I think this is the most important line in this article:
(From the OP)
"Her critics argue, however, that she has been unable to say no to Trump and is therefore complicit in his authoritarian expansion of presidential power, which has included the indiscriminate firing of federal employees, a draconian immigration crackdown, and deadly strikes on alleged drug boats in the Caribbean."

Texin

(2,835 posts)
36. I think Rick Wilson has this right. But it doesn't explain why she would have let herself be drawn
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 01:24 PM
Dec 26

into TSF's orbit unless she intended to ambush him with her observations down the road in an interview just like the one she gave to VF. Trump is a completely chaotic being and always has been. He's never changed except for the worst.

TBF

(35,821 posts)
37. Power is enticing & she probably thought she could handle him
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 03:08 PM
Dec 26

He's certainly not the sharpest tool in the shed. But, alas, between dementia and the cover of the Supreme Court there is no bottom here. Once she realized that she started planning her escape.

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