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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"YOU ARE A CHARLATAN" - Tina Peters sentencing.
"no respect for checks and balances"
This is what I dearly hope to see the rest of Trump's cabal get when just desserts are served.
This is why Trump is trying so hard to get her cut lose.
No one in their right mind wants to do nine years for the felon.
This Judge is incredible.
If Supreme Court justices had the integrity this guy has in his pinky finger, this country would be in much better shape.
drmeow
(5,946 posts)a "reverse Ghilaine Maxwell" and move Peters to a higher security prison while she demands that they violate the constitution.
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)This is a MUST WATCH.
And I agree.
dgauss
(1,490 posts)However that would be described, what a great F****** good thing to hear.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,348 posts)It is easy for the judge to go after her. It is easy for everyone to go after her.
Wake me when it is Miller, or Voight, or Hegseth, or the orange gibbon standing there.
Then, I might start thinking about justice again.
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)That shows MAGAT operatives they will NOT tamper with eiections with impunity.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,348 posts)Let's see if it works.
(I would not hold my breath, if I were you.)
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)dgauss
(1,490 posts)Wake up and the monsters are gone?
This, as long ago as it was, is how it will happen.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,348 posts)Destroying the machine is what needs to be done. Not slowly taking a piece here and there while it continues to damage our citizens.
That is going to create more suffering that does not have to happen, except for those who do not want things to change too much because of their own involvement with the underlying reasons for all of this, as well as their socioeconomic position which will allow them to hang on in this situation longer than most of us can.
Do the 'elite' in this country really expect the rest of us to just sit and suffer while they wait till this affects their own bottom line?
Why should the poor do that?
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)And when the strings to the puppets are cut, the show is over.
reACTIONary
(6,996 posts)... get that done? What's the plan?
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)However -

Billionaire oligarchs are for all practical purposes untouchable.
Not so their lackeys.
Legally going after the foot soldiers is effective.
It discourages others from committing illegal acts for their masters, knowing they will face consequences that can't be cancelled by the masters, in this case a state conviction that Trump can't pardon legally.
This is why he is putting on a show of trying to release Peters, even though he can do nothing
reACTIONary
(6,996 posts)orangecrush
(28,744 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(10,348 posts)Stop supporting the machine. Stop giving it the recourses it has to have to keep on running.
NO machine will work without some sort of power to make it run. Remove that power and the machine is useless.
Stop giving the machine what it needs to run. Stop with the money. Stop with the manpower. Just stop supporting them in any way.
(One of my favorite things to read around here is how people with large tracts of land just cannot comprehend that they need to start growing their own food so that they can stop supporting those corporations that run stores that constantly gouge people because they have convinced us that we cannot sustain ourselves. We most certainly can. We may have been programmed to not believe this, but all we have to do is start doing it.)
We don't have to play their games. We have just been too programmed to believe otherwise.
Time to break the chain, so to speak.
Easterncedar
(5,604 posts)What a professional demeanor that judge has. Gravitas!
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)And he was livid, but kept his bearing.
sagetea
(1,546 posts)And cathartic!!
sage
MarineCombatEngineer
(17,791 posts)didn't hold back his contempt for her and her lies and defiance.
My only regret is that she didn't receive more prison time but I'll take it and Flim Flam Man/Ed Martin can get fucked for trying to coerce CO. with threats if she's not released or transferred to Fed. custody, which would be a get out of jail free card.
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)Is because he wants his agents to believe he can pardon them when they try to tamper with future election results.
It's obviously not because he gives a flying fuck about her personally.
Which is why it's so important to keep her in prison.
It sends a message to these traitors.
A Republican judge?
That's even more incredible, considering he blasted her and compared her to the less fortunate defendants who appeared before him, for whom he expressed genuine compassion.
MarineCombatEngineer
(17,791 posts)so probably most of the jurors were republicans, and the majority of Election Clerks who condemned Tina Peters were repubs. also, so that should tell you just how bad her crimes were.
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)And Trump wants to manipulate the outcome.
Bluetus
(2,348 posts)Those people need to see that they can end up in a state prison if they break any laws.
So far, we have seen very little on this. There is a big struggle in Pennsylvania where Republicans are trying to pass legislation making ICE agents untouchable. But Dems are trying to pass legislation prohibiting masks and requiring identification.
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)Thank you!
I hope it passes and inspires other states to follow suit.
NO SECRET POLICE!
markodochartaigh
(5,093 posts)However, in my opinion, trying to subvert an election is tantamount to overthrowing the government and should be prosecuted and punished the same. I should think life in prison.
erronis
(22,794 posts)Agree, the proceeding was riveting.
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)It sounds like he intended to address Trump indirectly.
Mr. Mustard 2023
(350 posts)Thoughts and prayers Tina. Honest, I wouldn't lie to you Ms. Tina Peters. Nah.
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)Seinan Sensei
(1,388 posts)It short-circuits Mango Canks power & wherewithal
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)And he knows that.
MarineCombatEngineer
(17,791 posts)I love it.
Ilsa
(63,893 posts)calimary
(89,173 posts)I THINK I know who were talking about, here
Is he the one who always looks like he has a big blond carefully-barbered fibrous haystack on his head?
electric_blue68
(26,088 posts)flvegan
(65,842 posts)Glorious.
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)democrank
(12,214 posts)in spite of the DO-YOU-KNOW-WHO-I-AM? Tina Peters.
hatrack
(64,335 posts)Your Honor,
durablend
(8,911 posts)The death threats gonna be coming in hard
Blue_Adept
(6,498 posts)orangecrush
(28,744 posts)stopdiggin
(15,076 posts)(for those that were not aware?)
You did have words to say about the clip. Why not include .. ?
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orangecrush
(28,744 posts)To explain this was a sentencing proceeding for a MAGAT who tried to tamper with voting machines.
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orangecrush
(28,744 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(17,791 posts)but this was about a year ago and, as is usually the case, the threats are hollow from a bunch of hollow RW lunatics.
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)Called "The Judge".
BeneteauBum
(342 posts)I cant wait until Krasnov faces the same objectivity.
Peace ☮️
Hope22
(4,497 posts)This judge is amazing! Thanks for posting.
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)To see there is still justice.
HAB911
(10,300 posts)orangecrush
(28,744 posts)Like one of Musk's rockets
liberalla
(10,861 posts)?si=1MwphHrZJ3975atw
UpInArms
(54,155 posts)Just the facts and a full measure of unrelenting justice
Ruby the Liberal
(26,612 posts)That was a great clip.
It will never cease to amaze me that so many people are willing to destroy their lives just to curry fleeting favor with a grifter con artist.
SunSeeker
(57,672 posts)She's lucky she only got 9 years. Her lies have damaged our democracy and violated her oath of office. She has zero remorse. She is an ongoing threat to our democracy with her continued spewing of lies online about our election system. I'm so glad she is locked up now!
soldierant
(9,292 posts)IIRC, they were trying to serve a warrant and she was in a bar. and resisted for real. I don't do newspapers, but Colorado Public Radio's email newsletter had a photo or two.
Before I moved in Colorado Springs, I lived for about a decade and a half in Alamosa Bounty in Central southern Colorado. Our county Clerk for most of that time was a Republican who took her oath seriously and was really nice. Sigh. Those were the days.
RetiredParatrooper
(93 posts)Cant say I feel bad for Ms. Peters,
infullview
(1,108 posts)orangecrush
(28,744 posts)soldierant
(9,292 posts)in that Colorado has one of the best prison systems in the nation. She will not be served food with maggots in it, as she might be in parts of the South. She won't like the uniforms, but she'll get them laundered regularly. If there's anyone who wants to visit her (which considering her attitude seems unlikely, but certainly possible), that visitor or visitors will have to fill out a form and have their background checked, but the process will be fair and likely fast, and if approved and they come to visit, they will be treated with grace.
However, they will not put up with being disrespected. Hopefully, that will impact her defiant attitude. I suspect that, if it doesn't, nothing will.
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)Solitary confinement.
I gather you have to try really hard to get that in a low security women's prison.
soldierant
(9,292 posts)Some years ago, after the head of our DOC had been shot by a former inmate, his replacement (whom a lot of people had been worried about since the murdered guy had been so good) spent 24 hours in solitary himself so he would know what it was like - and use it appropriately. So I don't doubt one would have to work to get into it here.
orangecrush
(28,744 posts)Because they received threats from nuts that said they were going to break her out by force.
That actually happened.
soldierant
(9,292 posts)Most likely pardoned JAn6-ers. So Trumpian.I wouldn't put it past him to senf the FBI for that.
nwduke
(487 posts)she was on camera acting as privileged obnoxious you cant touch me crook! Now, trump the felon cant touch her! 😂Throw away the key!
oasis
(53,372 posts)orangecrush
(28,744 posts)Takedown of the entire MAGA by this judge.