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Psychology of People Who Grew Up in the 1960s (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 Dec 28 OP
Interesting take FHRRK Dec 28 #1
Never wanted to stay home from school sick. multigraincracker Dec 28 #16
This is AI slop from a channel posting videos on different subjects every couple of days, with highplainsdem Dec 28 #36
How to vilify a generation with a broad brush... NotHardly Dec 28 #43
It's almost like the well of resilience we need is in our 1960s generation bucolic_frolic Dec 28 #2
What stands out to me PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 28 #3
We were free range kids... ananda Dec 28 #5
Yep. Just be home by dinner. Martin Eden Dec 28 #7
my HS School years, we'd get 20 or so social misfits to play baseball. A lot of LL kids that never made it to JV OAITW r.2.0 Dec 28 #28
I remember that. And I got to be 11 or 12 years old in the boys told me I couldn't play anymore because I was a girl. Walleye Dec 29 #55
Me as well, I played from early morning until it was too dark to see. CanonRay Dec 29 #62
They're AI graphics. No Black people, either. Imagine, no Black people in a video ostensibly about the 60s. AI slop. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 28 #9
So the message lacks legitimacy? OAITW r.2.0 Dec 28 #15
This video describes fairly universal themes through a lens that makes "60s kids" feel unique -- which is catnip for just WhiskeyGrinder Dec 28 #21
You are 16 dimensions above me in your moral perspective. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 28 #31
To put it simply: "Every generation after mine is terrible" Orrex Dec 29 #57
I never thought that. But thanks for contributing to the conversation. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 30 #79
It wasn't aimed at you; it was a summary of and agreement with the post above yours Orrex Dec 30 #82
I guess, becasue I have 2 in their 30's, I beg to differ. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 30 #84
Again, it's not targeting you, and in any case it's not universal at the personal level Orrex Dec 30 #85
I started feeling like something was wrong extremely on, and I admit I quit half way to the end. 1WorldHope Dec 28 #32
The narrator is speaking with a British accent, I'm pretty sure this is mostly about the UK FakeNoose Dec 28 #42
You are right about no black people, but of course there would PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 29 #44
Whaaat? There are plenty of films and photos of Black people from the 1960s. But this video was made in 2025 with 2025 WhiskeyGrinder Dec 29 #50
I graduated in 1967 and I remember quite clearly when our schools desegregated. Walleye Dec 29 #56
I graduated also from h.s. in 1967! I may have seen, probably did see, Blacks..... ColoringFool Dec 29 #65
We always had a good percentage of Black people living in Delaware. And I live right next-door to a stone cold racist Walleye Dec 29 #68
"And how many of us White girls would "make an exception for" Sidney Poitier?" WhiskeyGrinder Dec 29 #72
Exception To The 1960s Milieu's View Of Mixed-Race Relationships ColoringFool Dec 30 #73
Okay but you do see how saying there is a single Black man out there for whom you would make an "exception" to society's WhiskeyGrinder Dec 30 #75
I have always said the downfall and the weight issues with this Country started with the remote control for tv. a kennedy Dec 28 #10
Right. Because you get so much exercise walking PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 28 #12
Yah, those how ever many steps they take from right after super to bed time, what 4 hours??? a kennedy Dec 28 #13
I had lots of PE in my school. Formal and informal. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 28 #17
California required 1 hour of PE daily mainer Dec 28 #18
I hated it because I have thick hair and Tree Lady Dec 28 #20
No PE in school Diamond_Dog Dec 29 #54
It wasn't changing the channel where moonscape Dec 28 #14
Well, that is part of it. OldBaldy1701E Dec 29 #53
There were plenty of so-called "overweight" kids then. Don't kid yourself. valleyrogue Dec 29 #63
We didn't eat out, or fast food mtngirl47 Dec 28 #40
People took diet pills, especially women. Girls were fat shamed to high heaven, often by their mothers. valleyrogue Dec 29 #47
This is my life MoonlightHillFarm Dec 28 #4
Who is When Jekyll Meets Hyde? What research goes into these assertions? What are these AI-voiced claims based on? WhiskeyGrinder Dec 28 #6
I watched, I related. You didn't? OAITW r.2.0 Dec 28 #19
You related to it because you were primed to and it's designed to be relatable. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 28 #22
It's fundamentally wrong because it's made with unethical tools trained on stolen intellectual highplainsdem Dec 28 #25
I get what you are sayings....and yes, maybe a warning should warn the consumer that AI content is involved. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 28 #37
Yeah, I watched a little of their, 'Psychology of People Who Grew Up in the 1980s" video. progressoid Dec 28 #27
I was curious myself.... IcyPeas Dec 28 #39
Some are copycats. Some apparently operate multiple channels. Some are likely from content farms highplainsdem Dec 29 #46
Interesting reply. I too have noticed... Pluvious Dec 29 #71
Ok Boomers.... multigraincracker Dec 28 #8
I kept my 50 cents a week allowance in a metal Bandaid can... 3catwoman3 Dec 28 #11
This is AI slop, from a channel set up a couple of months ago that already has 26 videos. This sort highplainsdem Dec 28 #23
Thank you canetoad Dec 28 #33
More than 20% of the videos that YouTube's algorithm shows to new users are "AI slop" chia Dec 29 #60
I used to think you were way off base ranting about AI and posting too often about it thebigidea Dec 30 #77
Well, thanks. LOL. I'm sorry you haven't liked my tactics, but without a way to directly transfer everything I've highplainsdem Dec 30 #78
Ty for your dedication to ethics & to educating others with your vast knowledge & experience SheltieLover Dec 30 #83
Thanks, SheltieLover! You're too kind, though. I'm just trying to keep with the news about genAI highplainsdem Dec 30 #86
You are doing great work, HPD SheltieLover Dec 31 #87
Those who didn't live through it and try to defend 3825-87867 Dec 28 #24
Not everyone's Keepthesoulalive Dec 28 #26
As a witness of the actual 60's (and the bullshit this video is trying to turn into "Happy Days"), Conjuay Dec 28 #29
You are absolutely right. my mom's 1st cousin never really returned from WW2 and OAITW r.2.0 Dec 28 #41
Also a reality back then: thucythucy Dec 29 #59
I'm not sure canetoad Dec 28 #30
Every generation has its challenges. BarbD Dec 28 #34
De rec. AI slop. Shallow, sweeping, pop psychology generalisations. It's self-congratulatory fortune cookie-style cringe Celerity Dec 28 #35
YouTube is rapidly becoming full of AI slop like this. tinrobot Dec 29 #69
Interesting. H2O Man Dec 28 #38
I kind of relate Historic NY Dec 29 #45
Pre and post The Wizard Dec 29 #48
My youth was spent... BH liberal Dec 29 #49
I am curious, will we just assume AI is slop, or will cachukis Dec 29 #51
I remember all the things in that video but I question the conclusions it draws. Ocelot II Dec 29 #52
49'er Here. We Have Been Labeled, Vilified, Praised, Envied, Etc. Boomers are NOT.... ColoringFool Dec 29 #67
We are so unprepared for people using AI to manipulate us ThreeNoSeep Dec 29 #58
And after all that, Turbineguy Dec 29 #61
EVERYONE should see reply 39 from IcyPeas. highplainsdem Dec 29 #64
I can't find reply #39 Mossfern Dec 30 #80
Sure! Here: highplainsdem Dec 30 #81
Not quite. I grew up a poor Southern California urban kid in the 1960's. haele Dec 29 #66
I hated "Leave it to Beaver" Wifes husband Dec 29 #70
Some people love AI Patton French Dec 30 #74
I grew up in the 1960s RazorbackExpat Dec 30 #76

FHRRK

(1,375 posts)
1. Interesting take
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 09:29 PM
Dec 28

And I got cheated, I only recall two hours of decent Saturday morning cartoons.

multigraincracker

(37,046 posts)
16. Never wanted to stay home from school sick.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:28 PM
Dec 28

Have to watch soap operas. Rather be at school.

highplainsdem

(60,401 posts)
36. This is AI slop from a channel posting videos on different subjects every couple of days, with
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:26 PM
Dec 28

different styles of AI art and narration by different AI voices. Lots of channels like this all over YouTube, set up in the last several months.

 

NotHardly

(2,705 posts)
43. How to vilify a generation with a broad brush...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:51 PM
Dec 28
bull shit to continue divisiveness and to create a 'class' division... aways creating a devil in the deep whole so the Billionaires Boys Club and scape"

bucolic_frolic

(54,259 posts)
2. It's almost like the well of resilience we need is in our 1960s generation
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 09:36 PM
Dec 28

and it's the last time those values were part of life's lessons. The 80s and 90s were too soft, progress without obstacles was the goal. And now people can't think because their minds are streamed by the digital age.

Martin Eden

(15,397 posts)
7. Yep. Just be home by dinner.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:08 PM
Dec 28

Born in 1957, growing up on the SW outskirts of Chicago near Midway Airport, my parents seldom knew where I was or what I was up to.

These days, perhaps more so in the middle class suburbs where I now live, most parents feel they HAVE TO know at all times where their kids are and what they're doing.

On summer days I was usually at the park playing softball (Chicago 16" with no gloves) but I roamed around quite a bit as well.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,646 posts)
28. my HS School years, we'd get 20 or so social misfits to play baseball. A lot of LL kids that never made it to JV
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:14 PM
Dec 28

But loved the game. We'd play till sunset and whoever was ahead, won. Probably played in a few hundred of these games.

Walleye

(43,933 posts)
55. I remember that. And I got to be 11 or 12 years old in the boys told me I couldn't play anymore because I was a girl.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:25 AM
Dec 29

Misogyny is another lesson. You learned the hard way.

CanonRay

(15,990 posts)
62. Me as well, I played from early morning until it was too dark to see.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 10:21 AM
Dec 29

Dinner and back out. Always a boatload ok kids to get a game up.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,506 posts)
9. They're AI graphics. No Black people, either. Imagine, no Black people in a video ostensibly about the 60s. AI slop.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:09 PM
Dec 28

This shit is so insidious.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,646 posts)
15. So the message lacks legitimacy?
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:28 PM
Dec 28

Give me a fucking break. All Americans born in the 50s lived through this. We realized skin color would not save us in a nuke blast. Kinda changed my thinking.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,506 posts)
21. This video describes fairly universal themes through a lens that makes "60s kids" feel unique -- which is catnip for just
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:39 PM
Dec 28

about anyone, no matter their generation. What’s illegitimate is the implication of exceptionalism among generations and uniformity of experience/results.

Orrex

(66,742 posts)
57. To put it simply: "Every generation after mine is terrible"
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:42 AM
Dec 29

...said every generation ever.

It's the essence of "okay, Boomer" thinking.

Orrex

(66,742 posts)
82. It wasn't aimed at you; it was a summary of and agreement with the post above yours
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:00 PM
Dec 30

The sentiment is seemingly universal, with each generation bemoaning the depravity and listlessness of the generations that follow. It manifests in tons of ways:

" (whichever) generation was just different."

"Kids today have no common sense."

"People today have no respect/work ethic/patience/discipline/manners."

"No one wants to work anymore."

That last one is a favorite because someone recently posted a collection of headlines spanning more than a century, each a complaint that no one is willing to do the work anymore.

The point is that the perception of generational specialness is, for the most part, simply a perception. And it's apparently a perception voiced by each generation in turn.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,646 posts)
84. I guess, becasue I have 2 in their 30's, I beg to differ.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:33 PM
Dec 30

They are doing as well as they can, given the current economic realities.

Orrex

(66,742 posts)
85. Again, it's not targeting you, and in any case it's not universal at the personal level
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:43 PM
Dec 30

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but from one generation to the next.

Part of it, I suspect, is society's asinine obsession with compartmentalizing into neatly market-targeted demographics: "Millennials vs. GenZ," etc. The distinctions are arbitrary and seemingly intended to create the illusion of group belonging while designating different arbitrarily chosen groups as "other."

So of course you know younger people who work like demons; my sons are two of those, in fact. I also know a few octogenarians who are absolute wizards with a smartphone. There are outliers and exceptions and in every subset.

As a group dynamic, however, the tendency to deride successor generations goes back a long way.

1WorldHope

(1,876 posts)
32. I started feeling like something was wrong extremely on, and I admit I quit half way to the end.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:19 PM
Dec 28

It felt like I was being manipulated into thinking my life time was special. And I wondered what comes next.

FakeNoose

(40,413 posts)
42. The narrator is speaking with a British accent, I'm pretty sure this is mostly about the UK
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:36 PM
Dec 28

However he's trying to appeal to American viewers, so they've thrown in photos and stories from the US also.
They're not going to photoshop in the black folks if they weren't in the actual, original snapshots and videos.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,483 posts)
44. You are right about no black people, but of course there would
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 12:10 AM
Dec 29

be no black people in a video made then.

And just in case the entire video is AI nonsense, simply find other old videos of real people then. Or look at a high school yearbook from 1965. That's the year I graduated high school, and I could name the two or three fat people in my class, and that version of fat wasn't remotely obese.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,506 posts)
50. Whaaat? There are plenty of films and photos of Black people from the 1960s. But this video was made in 2025 with 2025
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 08:32 AM
Dec 29

graphics, and Black people have been erased. As I say, it's insidious.

Walleye

(43,933 posts)
56. I graduated in 1967 and I remember quite clearly when our schools desegregated.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:29 AM
Dec 29

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And there were only three or four black kids in my class. And they were plenty of racist around. And watch the old TV shows anything from late 50s early 60s you won’t see a black person.

ColoringFool

(350 posts)
65. I graduated also from h.s. in 1967! I may have seen, probably did see, Blacks.....
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:49 AM
Dec 29

In our many family visits to NYC (from PA to relatives in Bayonne). However, my entire Lehigh Valley small town was White, no exceptions. 🤫

I was 18 when I first spoke to a Black person. He was running for Penn State Student Body President---and he won. Do you know how many of us White kids must have voted for him?! 👍 Ted Q. Thompson.

And how many of us White girls would "make an exception for" Sidney Poitier? "To Sir, With Love," 1967. 😁 😉 🥰

But even though de facto segregated in my younger days, I don't recall meeting a racist, either. I concede that I might have been oblivious (I wasn't naive; never naive. I watched AG Katzenbach at the schoolhouse door. And you and I were in college in 1968.)!



Walleye

(43,933 posts)
68. We always had a good percentage of Black people living in Delaware. And I live right next-door to a stone cold racist
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 12:08 PM
Dec 29

when I was growing up. They were ugly people, and they still are. I love the fact that my background includes Black people and Puerto Rican people. I would hate if everybody was just like me. I imagine you would too. my sixth grade class was held with in a two room schoolhouse that used to be one of the “colored schools“. We were always very cool because of it.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,506 posts)
72. "And how many of us White girls would "make an exception for" Sidney Poitier?"
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 04:15 PM
Dec 29

Exception to what?

ColoringFool

(350 posts)
73. Exception To The 1960s Milieu's View Of Mixed-Race Relationships
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 08:07 AM
Dec 30

Where Sammy Davis Jr and Mai Britt made international headlines. And where Frank Sinatra had to basically force hotels to allow Sammy to stay there.

And so on. It's called "US Civil Rights history."

So the OBVIOUS "exception" was that we would go against society and marry Sydney Poitier.

Context is everything.

And please do not dare criticize a then-17-year-old from a lily-white town. I was a Flaming Liberal Democrat then, and I'm a Flaming Liberal Democrat now.


WhiskeyGrinder

(26,506 posts)
75. Okay but you do see how saying there is a single Black man out there for whom you would make an "exception" to society's
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 08:59 AM
Dec 30

rule against interracial marriage is actually racist, right?

a kennedy

(35,433 posts)
10. I have always said the downfall and the weight issues with this Country started with the remote control for tv.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:10 PM
Dec 28

We always had to physically get up off the chair to turn the channel on the 3 networks that our tv’s carried. Now??? We hit a button.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,483 posts)
12. Right. Because you get so much exercise walking
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:19 PM
Dec 28

those three or four feet, enough to eliminate obesity, right?

The real problem is more likely no PE in school.

a kennedy

(35,433 posts)
13. Yah, those how ever many steps they take from right after super to bed time, what 4 hours???
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:23 PM
Dec 28

Lotsa steps. And is there a little machine that you can “ride” while you’re sitting??? Oh my yes there is. And PE in school would be a huge help too.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,646 posts)
17. I had lots of PE in my school. Formal and informal.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:32 PM
Dec 28

Never played organized baseball, but played many games, pick up. Does this still happen?

mainer

(12,502 posts)
18. California required 1 hour of PE daily
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:33 PM
Dec 28

At least it did when I grew up in the 60's. I hated it.

Diamond_Dog

(39,925 posts)
54. No PE in school
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:25 AM
Dec 29

And a food supply riddled with chemicals and additives to make junk food addictive and cheap.

moonscape

(5,644 posts)
14. It wasn't changing the channel where
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:28 PM
Dec 28

we got exercise, but popping up and down to stop the horizontal scrolling!

OldBaldy1701E

(10,438 posts)
53. Well, that is part of it.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:19 AM
Dec 29

But it is the fact that nowadays most of us do not have to do the vast majority of what our ancestors had to do just to survive.

Most of us do not worry about survival. That is the biggest thing that created the issues with our bodies as well as society.

valleyrogue

(2,614 posts)
63. There were plenty of so-called "overweight" kids then. Don't kid yourself.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:29 AM
Dec 29

Diet pill abuse was rampant back then, especially by women. The "diet" industry was HUGE then with products like Metrical and Ayds selling briskly.

Girls were pressured to be skinny and as small as possible so as to attract men and get married young, preferably right out of high school. They were fat-shamed by disgusting, judgmental, and shallow mothers to be thin and "marriageable." Both girls and boys were relentlessly bullied by their peers because their peers were raised with disgusting, shallow values to hate on people different from themselves.

I work in the schools and have for around three decades. There really isn't an "increase" of "overweight" kids in those schools than when I was a kid. What ISN'T tolerated is teasing, bullying, and shaming those kids.

mtngirl47

(1,212 posts)
40. We didn't eat out, or fast food
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:34 PM
Dec 28

Well, the only fast food was a PB&J sandwich!

As a child the only time we went to a restaurant was a very special occasion. We took our lunches to school, and we even took picnics when we went on trips.

We didn't have soda....I remember that if my parents went out on a Saturday night, the babysitter was told that we could split two cokes between the four of us and that she could have a whole one.

We had to clean our plates but it wasn't the over processed stuff that we all have now.

valleyrogue

(2,614 posts)
47. People took diet pills, especially women. Girls were fat shamed to high heaven, often by their mothers.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 12:33 AM
Dec 29

Don't think for one minute people were "naturally skinny." That didn't happen. There were plenty of overweight kids back then, and they were relentlessly bullied.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,506 posts)
6. Who is When Jekyll Meets Hyde? What research goes into these assertions? What are these AI-voiced claims based on?
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:02 PM
Dec 28

Hard to see how this isn't like a two-bit horoscope telling people what they want to hear tbh. I mean lol come on:

Maybe it's the way they carry themselves through crisis without falling apart. Maybe it's how they can navigate uncertainty with an
almost eerie calm. Or maybe it's that peculiar blend of optimism and pragmatism that seems hardwired into their very being.
Feels good, doesn't it?

highplainsdem

(60,401 posts)
25. It's fundamentally wrong because it's made with unethical tools trained on stolen intellectual
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:10 PM
Dec 28

property. And it takes attention away from what's created by humans. I don't think you'd post AI music from tools trained on stolen music. This is just as fake.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,646 posts)
37. I get what you are sayings....and yes, maybe a warning should warn the consumer that AI content is involved.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:28 PM
Dec 28

I don't disagree. But I found the content real,,,,,as much as I can remember living this timeframe.

progressoid

(52,668 posts)
27. Yeah, I watched a little of their, 'Psychology of People Who Grew Up in the 1980s" video.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:14 PM
Dec 28

Slightly different wording, same slop.

IcyPeas

(24,973 posts)
39. I was curious myself....
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:32 PM
Dec 28

It says their channel only started in October.

I did a search in YouTube for "psychology of people who grew up in the 1960s" interestingly there are a lot of videos that come up. Curiously all uploaded within the past couple of weeks. They are of different lengths and the graphics are different.... but weird. AI like you said.

I was listening to the words and noticed when he was saying "record" as in to record a song off the radio, he pronounced it "record" as in vinyl record. So i figured it was AI. If you listen to the other similar videos the voices are similar to downright funny. E.g., sounds like Edward g. Robinson:



And look at the name of the channel in the video below… Hyde Saves Jekyll with the same content as When Jekyll meets Hyde. All recent uploads. Right?



Also very similar videos from ...70s, ...80s....., 90s . There's a slew of them. Copy and paste with some updates. Not much diversity.

Were actual psychologists consulted for this content? Or just ChatGpt? AI has just begun…..

So I wonder too where things like this originate. AI content with slight changes here and there? Do you think this is one creator making different channels for getting clicks and dollars? Or people copying content for their own channel? I guess it's not illegal to create multiple channels.

highplainsdem

(60,401 posts)
46. Some are copycats. Some apparently operate multiple channels. Some are likely from content farms
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 12:25 AM
Dec 29

in other countries.

I doubt any real experts were consulted for this type of AI video.

It's already a flood of slop, but a lot if data on what people like or fall for is also being gathered, and that data is likely to be sold and used in the future. What hooked someone on this video could be used in an ad aimed at voters of the same age.

And most of these channels ask for donations, as this one does.

Pluvious

(5,280 posts)
71. Interesting reply. I too have noticed...
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 03:54 PM
Dec 29

... when some AI narration uses a heteronym, and uses the wrong pronunciation.

Such as "...they live to be free." Pronouncing "live" as in "the show is live"

I guess they still have a little more learning to do...

AI Overview :

A word spelled the same but with different meanings and pronunciations is called a heteronym, which is a specific type of homograph, while the broader term for words that are spelled or pronounced the same but have different meanings is homonym, so your example is a heteronym, like 'bow' (to bend) vs. 'bow' (for arrows) or 'desert' (dry land) vs. 'desert' (to abandon).

3catwoman3

(28,717 posts)
11. I kept my 50 cents a week allowance in a metal Bandaid can...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:18 PM
Dec 28

…and remember calculating how long it would take for me to afford to buy a horse. It never came to pass.

highplainsdem

(60,401 posts)
23. This is AI slop, from a channel set up a couple of months ago that already has 26 videos. This sort
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:04 PM
Dec 28

of garbage is all over YouTube now. AI slop art in different styles, fake expertise, AI narration in a variety of fake voices, and videos cobbled together by AI and posted every day or two. This channel uploaded 7 videos between Dec. 11 and Dec. 20. Some of these AI channels soon start posting multiple videos a day as they get their formula down pat and figure out which clickbait works best. There's no real expertise here and some of these channels are from foreign content farms, not the US. This one is requesting donations through Buy Me A Coffee.

canetoad

(20,318 posts)
33. Thank you
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:19 PM
Dec 28

I didn't investigate that far.

It looks like AI will provide any and all validation you would like. Sad.

thebigidea

(13,561 posts)
77. I used to think you were way off base ranting about AI and posting too often about it
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:31 AM
Dec 30

Seeing the horrific responses from most of the commenters here made me realize... oh. No. You've been right all along even if your tactics are not to my taste. I've just been in a bubble of savvy tech people who make fun of it or maybe use it successfully to help with coding, knowing full well it's limitations and sneering at it's pathetic attempts to generate "art."

More people need to wake up, but most people won't.

God this is so infuriating and sad. Is that how easy it is to manipulate people? Some of you actually fall for this goddamn tripe? All you need to do is be made to feel special by a fucking algorithm? That voice convinces you? Ugh.

So depressing.


highplainsdem

(60,401 posts)
78. Well, thanks. LOL. I'm sorry you haven't liked my tactics, but without a way to directly transfer everything I've
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 02:41 PM
Dec 30

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read and heard about AI for years - thousands of articles, tens of thousands of social media posts, private correspondence with some of the experts whose public statements I've quoted on DU - all I can do is post about a small percentage of the articles and social media posts to inform people, repeat warnings when it's relevant...and get blunter if it seems a blunter message might be necessary to get through. I can't introduce people here to the despairing artists I've met who hint or talk more openly about feeling suicidal because of the harm done by generative AI. Or introduce them to the exasperated and demoralized teachers I've met who are at wit's end trying to cope with what's far and away the worst level of school cheating we've ever seen, and who in some cases are talking about quitting teaching entirely because genAI has made a mockery of it.

I was able yesterday, thanks to the American Federation of Teachers president foolishly posting AI slop on Bluesky, to point people to the hundreds of replies in that thread expressing outrage over her treating that example of the serious harm done by AI as "fun" - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220895856 . But I don't know if the people here who think it's fun to create or share AI slop were willing to read their messages, either.

I talk a lot about ethics because it's not only the bedrock of liberal values, but because keeping ethics in mind, including for technology, is the only safe way to.navigate the future and advances in technology. I first got online in the mid-1980s, before there was a world wide web, and for two years then I ran a forum on technology and society and foreign affairs. I brought in as my comod a new friend who was a spokesperson for Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility, a worldwide organization that unfortunately no longer exists, but that we could really use now. If there's anything that needs more emphasis in the debate about AI, it's social responsibility - which the AI bros seem almost entirely unconcerned with, though they sometimes pay it lip service.

I expect DUers to be concerned about social responsibility, too, and I have been stunned at times here when some DUers seem to have little or no concern for the intellectual property theft and all the other harms from generative AI that are obvious and have been documented in news articles and studies for years. And that FAR outweigh the benefits of generative AI.

We're in real trouble if we're fine with those harms because AI might amuse or flatter us, or if we think we're somehow smarter or more talented and creative using AI tools that only work because the AI companies stole all that intellectual property.

Too many people are sleepwalking into a dystopia the AI bros are peddling as utopia.

And I can't watch them doing that without trying to wake them up.

The threat posed by genAI is just as serious as the threat posed by Trump and those aligned with him - who now include the AI bros, even though that wasn't as obvious a few years ago. Not as obvious to me, anyway. Some people, like journalist Gil Duran, did see this nightmare alliance of tech lords and right wing authoritarianism coming.

People have to wake up.

SheltieLover

(77,460 posts)
83. Ty for your dedication to ethics & to educating others with your vast knowledge & experience
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:04 PM
Dec 30

I detest AI.

highplainsdem

(60,401 posts)
86. Thanks, SheltieLover! You're too kind, though. I'm just trying to keep with the news about genAI
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:55 PM
Dec 30

3825-87867

(1,809 posts)
24. Those who didn't live through it and try to defend
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:07 PM
Dec 28

THEIR era, have no basis for judgement. Just as we who did live through it can not really relate to what OUR parents lived through during the 20s and 30s.
Feelings get hurt by succeeding generations who don't understand how much better each succeeding generation has it.
I would love to have grown up today with all the new technology and not have to put up with the problems we had which of, course are never as bad as current generations.

Conjuay

(2,934 posts)
29. As a witness of the actual 60's (and the bullshit this video is trying to turn into "Happy Days"),
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:17 PM
Dec 28

I remember A LOT of heavy drinking men, who never really 'came home from the war'.

The rage against women was accepted as normal- remember how Ralph Cramden would wave his fist around and threaten "TO THE MOON, ALICE!" played over a laugh track?
Of course not.
One girl in my glass showed up with TWO black eyes.
Were the cops ever called?
How about Child Protective Services?
Did the teacher intercede?

Nope.


Anyone who wants to buy into this DrPhil-osophy, go right ahead, but it wasn't the golden age depicted:

AND EVEN IF it was so perfect in 'boomer times'- why are so many hateful, bigoted, INSANE boomers running around now, cheering a madman like trump?

OAITW r.2.0

(31,646 posts)
41. You are absolutely right. my mom's 1st cousin never really returned from WW2 and
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:34 PM
Dec 28

suicided in lock-up in 1962

thucythucy

(9,043 posts)
59. Also a reality back then:
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:57 AM
Dec 29

sexual abuse of children--and not just by billionaires--but by parents, older kids, ministers and priests--with absolutely no recourse for the victims.

No rape crisis centers.

No understanding of rape trauma syndrome or sympathy for survivors.

Then too: rampant, out in the open homophobia, and god help any kid labeled gay, whether or not it was true.

Not that any of these problems have gone away, but at least they're seen--by some of us anyway--as problems.

I'm always skeptical of "good old days" mythology. Scratch the surface of any era and you'll find the same old atrocities, more or less well hidden, and often completely denied.

canetoad

(20,318 posts)
30. I'm not sure
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:18 PM
Dec 28

If intergenerational comparisons are a productive excercise.

I'm a classic product of the boomer gen (b. 1954), Never, ever did a nuke excercise but I grew up in the UK.

The accent is Brit, but I suspect this is an American AI product. It's very flattering to boomers which is unusual; looking for boomer clicks?

BarbD

(1,379 posts)
34. Every generation has its challenges.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:23 PM
Dec 28

Life was not that much better back then, it was just different. People still have the same basic needs and we need one another. Born in 1937 with a childhood in the 1940's and a teen in the 1950's.

We need to acknowledge the truth of history and not sanitize it. We are always learning and adjusting. That's life.

Celerity

(53,852 posts)
35. De rec. AI slop. Shallow, sweeping, pop psychology generalisations. It's self-congratulatory fortune cookie-style cringe
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:25 PM
Dec 28

tinrobot

(11,972 posts)
69. YouTube is rapidly becoming full of AI slop like this.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 12:16 PM
Dec 29
More than 20% of YouTube's feed is now "AI slop," report finds

Not only are more than half the articles on the web created by AI, but over 21% of YouTube videos being show to new users is "AI Slop." That's according to a new report, which also found that the US is in third place when it comes to consumption of these low-quality generated videos.

Video editing firm Kapwing highlights AI slop's definition as careless, low-quality content generated by computer applications and used to farm views and subscriptions or sway political opinion.

But for all the pushback against AI slop and brainrot – low-quality, trivial online content -- their proliferation on YouTube is hard to avoid.

To get an idea of how much of YouTube consists of AI-generated videos, Kapwing simulated the experience of an untainted YouTube Shorts algorithm by establishing a new YouTube account. It then noted the occurrence of AI slop among the first 500 videos in the feed. In total, 104 (21%) of the first 500 videos were AI-generated, while 165 (33%) were classed as brainrot.


https://www.techspot.com/news/110735-over-21-youtube-now-ai-slop-report.html

H2O Man

(78,774 posts)
38. Interesting.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:30 PM
Dec 28

Recommended for the OP and discussion.

I got older in the '60s, though one could argue that I've never given up. Thus, I found this interesting, and having some good information. I do think it might fit white, middle class kids from that era, but not so much for many -- perhaps most -- minority and low-income kids. And I think that in some areas, there may be some errors. For example, those who grew up during the Great Depression knew the value of pennies and mastered delayed gratification. It left off Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali, too,

There are, exactly as it notes, differences between kids then and now. However, I remember a study of college students in the mid-'70s, indicating the majority said being alone for a weekend, with nothing but books, would be very difficult. Stereos and televions were considered essential then. Cell phones are more so today, but the idea is the same.

I shall end by telling about a second grade "tuck your head" in the hallway, rather than under our desks. A classmate I'll call Bob was so anxious he shit his pants. This made the next kid puke, and then a girl a few kids away puked as well. This remains etched in my memory, as if Bob's shit and the other two's puke were an uncanny prediction of the felon, Stephen Miller, and Steve Bannon being in and around the White House.

Historic NY

(39,720 posts)
45. I kind of relate
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 12:11 AM
Dec 29

both of my parent were deceased by the time I was 12. My twin and I left an abusive step-mother.. We just walked out the door and never went back for anything. We changed schools a couple of times. An aunt and uncle took us in and meager SS survivor checks helped pay for food and cloths. We both worked from 12 forward and we involved in the community. I put myself through college and bought my own vehicles. My father was a WWII Vet and some of his pals looked after us. We always had one or two for advice. It wasn't easy, things were hard.

The Wizard

(13,611 posts)
48. Pre and post
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 07:05 AM
Dec 29

the nuclear weapons threat determines much of how we view the world and where we see ourselves in it.

BH liberal

(128 posts)
49. My youth was spent...
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 08:14 AM
Dec 29

in a very small town in the Midwest. Can relate to the post above about kids roaming loose from breakfast to dinnertime, especially during the summers. We did all sorts of things that seem to be pretty rare now with the proliferation of helicopter parents terrified at the prospect of their children being snatched from playgrounds and swimming pools. Sports and physical activities were our main focus...all the levels of youth baseball, for example, that allowed for all skill levels to participate. Very few overweight kids at all...and, yes, they did at least get teased to no end or worse.

Our school was never very big on duck and cover drills, and I think the focus was as much on tornado protection as nuclear. One of our neighbors had a bomb shelter in their basement, but I was never curious enough about it to ask to see it. For many of us, our parents' relationship with alcohol was a greater source of anxiety. Not much to do for them in our small town...only a bowling alley, movie theater and a dozen or so bars and restaurants that served liquor within a 10 mile radius. Private parties on weekends centered around drinking were also popular. In fact, one of my first-ever memories was reaching up as far as I could on my tip-toes to grab off the kitchen counter a glass full of what I thought was Coca-Cola and taking a drink. Turned out to be booze and I gagged on it.

Most of my uncles served in WWII, yet I never heard one war story from them. One survived D-Day and subsequent duty in France and another participated in a handful of the Pacific island-hopping landings and survived them all. Alcohol became a big part of their lives as well. I started work at 12 years old in a grocery store for 25 cents an hour after school and on Saturdays 7 AM to 7PM. Watching what was happening all around me made me want to become independent as soon as possible. Bought my own used car at 15 and worked summers on vacation fill-in jobs on the railroad that my father found for me. Got out of there at 18, worked my way through college and rarely returned.

That was my 50's and 60's experience...

cachukis

(3,696 posts)
51. I am curious, will we just assume AI is slop, or will
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 08:37 AM
Dec 29

we see it as just a modern approach to telling a story. We all have critical eyes and ears and some of us appreciate the sentiments while others see something else.
Someone pointed out that many of these same boomers support trump.
The New York Post presents their version of the truth as does the NYT. It is all an attempt to inform and share a world view.
Ken Burns' piece on the revolution depicted the war as a seminal event, but did it really describe the real revolution that came before; the actual philosophical change of the minds of English men to Americans?
AI is here. It will get better and trashing it will continue, but not everyone using it is out to get us anymore than media outlets want our clicks.

Ocelot II

(129,445 posts)
52. I remember all the things in that video but I question the conclusions it draws.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:14 AM
Dec 29

Yes, we did the duck-and-cover thing, and there were scary movies about nuclear war - there was a chilling show on TV, maybe it was a made for tv movie, called Alas, Babylon that I still remember. A neighbor even built a bomb shelter. There were sonic booms that would startle the hell out of us. But we also did kid stuff and didn't think about those things all the time. We were free-range kids who were left pretty much to our own devices - go out and play with your friends, don't go too far, come in when it gets dark. Here's a quarter, go to the bakery and buy a loaf of bread and bring back the change. I saw the Beatles on Ed Sullivan but didn't think they were earth-shattering. I remember the civil rights marches, the assassinations of JFK, RFK and MLK, the Vietnam war body counts on TV. A lot of consequential shit happened during the '60s but a lot of shit always happens. You are always affected by whatever it is you grew up with. Maybe handling real money and being left unsupervised most of the time made us more independent; I don't know. It didn't necessarily make us better people, though. Some of us grew up to be assholes. The analysis is shallow, probably AI.

ColoringFool

(350 posts)
67. 49'er Here. We Have Been Labeled, Vilified, Praised, Envied, Etc. Boomers are NOT....
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 12:06 PM
Dec 29

Monolithic!

I do think, though, that SEVERAL MAJOR ASSASSINATIONS during our teens might be different from the experiences of the previous two generations. Plus, we had a war that was controversial relative to our engagement and purpose.

But then, we had no Great Depression. And many of us lived a Middle Class upbringing because of the hard work and sacrifice of our elders.

We still had heroes and ideals, on all sides of the political spectrum. I mean, Clean For Gene. Bobby. Hey, Hey, LBJ. Tricky Dick. Nixon's the One. Even Hillary was a Goldwater Girl.

Obama came close. But then, but then......

ThreeNoSeep

(276 posts)
58. We are so unprepared for people using AI to manipulate us
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:45 AM
Dec 29

At the very least, the video makers should disclose how they used AI in the video. The OP, if they reasonably suspect it is AI, should also disclose that suspicion if the makers did not.



haele

(15,137 posts)
66. Not quite. I grew up a poor Southern California urban kid in the 1960's.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:56 AM
Dec 29

As a kid in the 1960's, you were still expected to respect your elders..
School days, maybe you got to play after school, but most times you were doing homework and cleaning up before and after dinner. The stereo was for background music while cleaning. The TV was for watching the news and maybe one show your parents approved of. The rest of the night was for homework, a family game or project, or to spend an hour bringing out the toys you were going to play with or reading. Then pick up and get ready for beds.

Weekends were never "carefree and casual" - you still had to get up "early" (by 06:30/07:00) on Saturday to gather up your dirty clothes to put in the laundry, make your bed, put up everything in your room, and go out and get a broom to sweep your room (including under your bed) before coming out to a cooked breakfast and a short time watching cartoons on TV if you had one.
Then you helped with heavy cleaning until late morning.
And then...the Family weekend - day trip to a park (walk or bike), home or furniture repair (basic carpentry, auto, painting, plumbing, roofing, yard work, ect...), going berry picking, walking the dog, family games, club events (camp fire, sports or hobby groups) heading to the library...

Summer was for the family camping trip, hanging out at the city park or running around the block, or a hobby jobs "for pin or sweets money", or charity work - whether or not you belonged to a church, there was always some sort of local charitable organization that needed quick hands or a kid with a bike or wagon to check on people or deliver items.

Spending the day sitting on your ass in the morning or afternoon watching TV was only for the days there was a televised sports event to watch.

I've always believed Teen Age as we know it in the US is a product of Marketing and a conservative economic push to create generations of passive drones forcing families to have two working adults and a lot of unsupervised or non-directed free time for adolescents.

Teens aren't necessarily stupid, but they can be selfish and pig-headed in thinking they're adults without understanding the responsibility on what being an adult in a community entails.

And the "Leave it to Beaver/Happy Days/Brady Bunch" BS TV was pushing on kids of the 60's and 70's was not what most of their parents experienced growing up, unless their folks were well off enough to have a housekeeper or nanny.

Most urban/suburban kids grew up with chores, neighborhood friends, and periods of family boredom where they had to read, make things, explore the local area, or otherwise figure out ways of entertaining themselves in the 1960's and 70's.

Wifes husband

(698 posts)
70. I hated "Leave it to Beaver"
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 12:43 PM
Dec 29

Beaver was always screwing up and then "learning his lesson". Then I had to have mom give me the " look" to learn from Beaver.

Hated the show. Only people who could act were Eddie and Lumpy

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