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LogDog75

(1,123 posts)
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 01:52 PM Dec 29

States that will be hardest hit if ACA subsidies lapse

If Congress doesn't extend the ACA subsidies health insurance premiums under the ACA will increase dramatically. Those using the ACA can use Medicaid but only in those states that took advantage of expanding Medicaid under the ACA of 2010 and the 2021 American Rescue Act. But not all states expanded Medicaid and now people who rely upon the ACA subsidies will see their ACA premiums more than double. Citizens in 10 states will be hardest hit because they did not expand Medicaid. Below is the list of states and the number of people enrolled in the ACA subsidies and see what they all have in common.


Alabama: 456,972 enrollees
Florida: 4,565,216 enrollees
Georgia: 1,475,623 enrollees
Mississippi: 322,788 enrollees
North Carolina: 924,168 enrollees
South Carolina: 608,325 enrollees
Tennessee: 615,828 enrollees
Texas: 3,814,112 enrollees
Utah: 410,339 enrollees
Wyoming: 45,107 enrollees
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/retirement/here-are-the-states-that-will-be-hit-hardest-if-aca-subsidies-lapse-in-2026/ar-AA1TcjUf?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=766f1d729fc44fc083142bd125a5592b&ei=21

All are republican controlled states.

Why republicans don't believe in taking care of their citizens is beyond me.

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States that will be hardest hit if ACA subsidies lapse (Original Post) LogDog75 Dec 29 OP
Their citizens vote for them. piddyprints Dec 29 #1
A million people in my state of N.C. will lost health insurance. yardwork Dec 29 #10
They need to be sued again and again. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Dec 29 #20
The N.C. state Supreme Court and SCOTUS is in the bag for them. yardwork Dec 29 #21
I'm in NC, and I agree RetiredParatrooper Dec 29 #31
Welcome to DU and welcome to another North Carolinian! yardwork Dec 29 #34
Welcome to DU, RetiredParatrooper! calimary Dec 30 #35
Make them own it. OldBaldy1701E Dec 30 #53
Somehow we must put Fox News and then rest of these right wing liars out of business. travelingthrulife Dec 30 #49
The Fox lie machine must be shut down completely 31st Street Bridge Dec 30 #52
I understand why cable isn't regulated by the FCC, CrispyQ Dec 30 #59
There are several stories of Trump replacing signs with Biden's name & putting new ones with his name, CrispyQ Dec 30 #57
And they will blame Obama, Biden and dems kerouac2 Dec 29 #2
And these are reasons why I am finding it johnnyfins Dec 29 #4
I suspect a large percentage of those enrolled in the ACA - even in red states - vote Democratic. No state ... Whiskeytide Dec 29 #26
I agree. ShazzieB Dec 30 #37
Watch him propose to fund ACA only for red states. NH Ethylene Dec 29 #3
Yes, I think he will do this too. gristy Dec 29 #14
If SCOUTS lets that fly then the UNITED states is over. -nt CrispyQ Dec 30 #60
Republicans don't give a shit about... Lovie777 Dec 29 #5
Sounds like putin and his people...He does not care how many die.. Just like these red states and their people.. mitch96 Dec 29 #8
They don't care about the constituents who don't have money. haele Dec 29 #16
Wonder what they will do when no one has money to buy their shit? travelingthrulife Dec 30 #50
Very few of them have lived or run a business in the Real World haele Dec 30 #67
That's why they are so obsessed with forced birth. No contraception. ToxMarz Dec 30 #55
K&R UTUSN Dec 29 #6
Job Loses Gonna Hurt modrepub Dec 29 #7
Their goal is to remove the expendables The Madcap Dec 29 #11
They want a world where only the rich deserve a pleasant life & the rest of us suffer what we must to provide for them. CrispyQ Dec 30 #62
"Why republicans don't believe in taking care of their citizens is beyond me." J_William_Ryan Dec 29 #9
I would add... Pluvious Dec 29 #13
Getting big money out of our electoral process would solve many of our problems. CrispyQ Dec 30 #63
Hear, bloody, hear stage left Dec 29 #15
And many of these same states declined the expansion of Medicaid under the ACA surfered Dec 29 #12
Taking care of your citizens is derided as the "nanny state" DBoon Dec 29 #17
That's a good comeback. calimary Dec 30 #36
You forgot no regulation. That's nanny state, too. CrispyQ Dec 30 #65
When the reality is that the citizens are one of a nation's most prized resources! CrispyQ Dec 30 #64
If this doesn't get fixed, those states are about to get hit with a huge dose of voter backlash. patphil Dec 29 #18
No Nasruddin Dec 29 #19
Alabama will never vote Democratic again... COL Mustard Dec 29 #24
Anyone have a breakdown as to... BurnDoubt Dec 29 #22
All are former members of the Confederacy.... COL Mustard Dec 29 #23
And ALL of the former Confederate states Wednesdays Dec 30 #58
Red state takers Envirogal Dec 29 #25
Simple. They hate Obama. LNM Dec 29 #27
Tsk tsk Faux pas Dec 29 #28
Every state that went for orange piggy in 2024 ! kimbutgar Dec 29 #29
Their getting what they voted for! nt Unrepentant Fenian Dec 29 #30
Let's see them try to blame the Democrats for that. Martin68 Dec 29 #32
That's exactly what they'll try to do. calimary Dec 30 #40
They can try as usual but there has been way to much light on the expiring subsidies Bengus81 Dec 30 #45
Make sure to thank your local Republican politician next November. Buddyzbuddy Dec 29 #33
And sadly... Golfnbrew Dec 30 #38
Because Republicans are selfish and greedy GoodRaisin Dec 30 #39
And I don't know how to spin this any other way. calimary Dec 30 #41
They are a failure at marketing. It's maddening! CrispyQ Dec 30 #68
Frustrating, isn't it?! calimary Dec 30 #70
Problem is that they will all believe that the Democrats did this to them. Kablooie Dec 30 #42
Exactly. Blue_Roses Dec 30 #43
What they all have in common... llmart Dec 30 #44
Sadly there's no "if" to it Bengus81 Dec 30 #46
These subsidies JustAnotherGen Dec 30 #47
I say tough noogies, red states. mwb970 Dec 30 #48
Once again Abstractartist Dec 30 #51
Blue state republicans should be asked, CrispyQ Dec 30 #54
More fuel for the blue tsunami in Texas... CapnSteve Dec 30 #56
If? Bluetus Dec 30 #61
I'm surprised Arkansas isn't on this list RazorbackExpat Dec 30 #66
Red State Masochists duckworth969 Dec 30 #69

piddyprints

(15,062 posts)
1. Their citizens vote for them.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 01:57 PM
Dec 29

There is such a level of ignorance about how government works that all you have to say is that the Democrats did it, and they will continue to vote for Republicans. Yes, I live in a red state. It is heartbreaking. I've tried talking to some of them but they just flat out down't believe me. Oh yeah, Fox "news" runs on most TVs in local businesses, even the gym.

The infrastructure project that has been ongoing for a few years now has a huge sign with the governor's name on it, not President Biden's. And everyone believes their reps and governor made it so.

yardwork

(69,011 posts)
10. A million people in my state of N.C. will lost health insurance.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 03:08 PM
Dec 29

We have a Democratic governor and attorney general, but the Republicans seized control of the state legislature in 2010. (Because voters were told to be angry about the ACA.) The Republicans seized control majority in our state legislature gerrymandered NC to the point where they hold a super majority, even though the state is split evenly between Democrats and Republicans.

The N.C. GOP was forced to redraw the maps but the Supreme Court overturned that, so we're back to one state rule. Not democratic at all.

31. I'm in NC, and I agree
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:25 PM
Dec 29

My statehouse guy (a Rep) was at the polling precinct last November, and was doing a little last minute campaigning (legally - didn't break the rules) and was talking to folks in line. When he got to me and my fam, I told him flat out that:

1. The GOP in it's current form is a criminal enterprise and should be loudly proclaimed as such.

2. I am far more dialed in to politics than the regular voter so he should talk to some of the others folks there.

calimary

(89,198 posts)
35. Welcome to DU, RetiredParatrooper!
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 02:05 AM
Dec 30

I’d say I love your first statement, but that might sound like that’s where the admiration ends. I appreciate your second statement too, for its sound follow-through advice. We should be talking to everybody we get a chance to.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,394 posts)
53. Make them own it.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:06 AM
Dec 30

Make them decide this way over and over.

Don't let them win because we don't want to put that much effort into it.

Make them eat their position so that everyone can see how they operate.

travelingthrulife

(4,590 posts)
49. Somehow we must put Fox News and then rest of these right wing liars out of business.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 09:12 AM
Dec 30

They ought not to be able to lie 24/7.

CrispyQ

(40,728 posts)
59. I understand why cable isn't regulated by the FCC,
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:55 AM
Dec 30

but it seems an exception to stations that call themselves "NEWS" should be made. It's just wrong that you can knowing lie & call yourself a news station. Or that you can ignore real & consequential stories cuz they don't fit your narrative.

I was talking with some right wing relatives who couldn't defend their positions & they ended the conversation by saying, "Well, we all have our own sources so we'll just have to agree to disagree." I responded, "Except my sources have never had to pay out three quarters of a billion dollars for lying to their audience."

Remind right wingers of that every chance you get, especially when asking an establishment to change the channel. "You know Fox News had to pay three quarters of a BILLION dollars for lying to their audience. Can you switch to something more palatable, please?"

CrispyQ

(40,728 posts)
57. There are several stories of Trump replacing signs with Biden's name & putting new ones with his name,
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:24 AM
Dec 30

even though he strenuously opposed the infrastructure bill. He's such a shit.

May the universe grace Earth with a tiny bit of undeserved compassion & take this fucker before midnight tomorrow. We want to start 2026 fresh.

johnnyfins

(3,499 posts)
4. And these are reasons why I am finding it
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 02:17 PM
Dec 29

very difficult to have any sympathy for these people.

Whiskeytide

(4,640 posts)
26. I suspect a large percentage of those enrolled in the ACA - even in red states - vote Democratic. No state ...
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 07:25 PM
Dec 29

… electorate is a monolith. We should have a great deal of sympathy for those folks.

ShazzieB

(22,276 posts)
37. I agree.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 02:52 AM
Dec 30

My late sister, who didn't have a political affiliation but was very conservative, told me and everyone else she knew that she and her husband didn't sign up for an insurance plan under the ACA because it was "too expensive." Curious, I asked her how much it would have cost them. It turned out that she had no idea because she had never bothered to check out the ACA portal for out state! I don't think her husbsnd checked it, either. He evidently just decided it cost too much and told her so, and she took his word for it. They were still uninsured when she died.

It kind of makes me wonder how many other MAGAs did the same thing.

NH Ethylene

(31,298 posts)
3. Watch him propose to fund ACA only for red states.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 02:09 PM
Dec 29

He is so blatant I wouldn't put it past him.

mitch96

(15,680 posts)
8. Sounds like putin and his people...He does not care how many die.. Just like these red states and their people..
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 02:47 PM
Dec 29

but, But, BUT!!!!! They "owned" the Libs...uff what assholes..
m

haele

(15,133 posts)
16. They don't care about the constituents who don't have money.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 03:36 PM
Dec 29

Republicans only care about consumers who can pay prices.
Republicans only care about costs and profits to be made in the rather simplistic, rigged game they want to play.
They don't care about any actual value, sustainability, or real, tangible life outside their game.

travelingthrulife

(4,590 posts)
50. Wonder what they will do when no one has money to buy their shit?
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 09:15 AM
Dec 30

Between AI taking jobs and the death of our government...

haele

(15,133 posts)
67. Very few of them have lived or run a business in the Real World
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:56 AM
Dec 30

The majority came from families with money or connections; upper "middle class" professionals or outright wealthy. I would almost say none of them actually worked, if they did work, it was more for the adventure or experience, not for actual survival.
Musk and Theil, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Altman, Ellison, the others...all had fallback options if they failed throughout their lives. Whether it was government subsidies or the gift of BS-ing idiots with lots of money.
And they collect parasitic acolytes to support their curation of reality. Because - Money begets money.
They never had to considered the majority of people who couldn't or didn't want to join their "vision". Or if they did consider them, those people are useless and not worthy.

To the Tech Bros, the True Believers, the Investor/Money Manager types, people are fungible - consumers, resources, pawns. Basically, if you don't have the money or power base to be the undisputed hero of your own story, you're just an NPC...so no, they don't realize what will happen when large amounts of people can no longer afford to buy not only shitty products, they can't afford the basics - food, shelter, clothing...
When the world becomes a wasteland.

ToxMarz

(2,776 posts)
55. That's why they are so obsessed with forced birth. No contraception.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:18 AM
Dec 30

It's cheaper for them to replace than to repair.

modrepub

(4,004 posts)
7. Job Loses Gonna Hurt
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 02:36 PM
Dec 29

Healthcare is one of the better job generators. Once the insurance payments dry up, healthcare workers are going to lose jobs. And I suspect cuts will be most pronounced in low density population areas.

What a lot of folks miss is that the ACA is really a job creation program.

The Madcap

(1,793 posts)
11. Their goal is to remove the expendables
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 03:18 PM
Dec 29

And to work the needed until they die. No more retirements except for the very wealthy.

CrispyQ

(40,728 posts)
62. They want a world where only the rich deserve a pleasant life & the rest of us suffer what we must to provide for them.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:07 AM
Dec 30


I have deep loathing for the WE FOOL YOU level. Evil fuckers.

J_William_Ryan

(3,375 posts)
9. "Why republicans don't believe in taking care of their citizens is beyond me."
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 02:50 PM
Dec 29

Because they don’t believe in government.

Because they’re fundamentally fascists and social Darwinists.

And because they believe – incorrectly – that programs such as the ACA ‘foster dependence’ on government; affording health insurance is like having a nice house or car, if you can’t afford it, you don’t deserve it, if you can’t afford health insurance, it’s your fault, it’s neither the role nor responsibility of government to save you from your faults and failures.

This is one of countless reasons why Republicans are unfit to govern; why Republicans are incapable of sound public policy and responsible governance.

Pluvious

(5,278 posts)
13. I would add...
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 03:23 PM
Dec 29

These Republicans perceive this demographic which needs these subsidies are unlikely to make campaign contributions to them

CrispyQ

(40,728 posts)
63. Getting big money out of our electoral process would solve many of our problems.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:12 AM
Dec 30

Voting has become a profit making industry, & the ones who can change that, are a subset of those who benefit from it. It's fucking killing us & the planet!!

DBoon

(24,788 posts)
17. Taking care of your citizens is derided as the "nanny state"
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 03:42 PM
Dec 29

Rpublicans instead believe in the violent aĺcoholic "daddy state"

calimary

(89,198 posts)
36. That's a good comeback.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 02:08 AM
Dec 30

And why not? What else do they say besides 437 versions of “no new taxes”?

CrispyQ

(40,728 posts)
65. You forgot no regulation. That's nanny state, too.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:32 AM
Dec 30

But they want to track our periods & check in our panties before letting us use the restroom to pee.

CrispyQ

(40,728 posts)
64. When the reality is that the citizens are one of a nation's most prized resources!
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:28 AM
Dec 30

But the only ones we value are those with money. The rest of us have been pigeonholed from birth. That's not to say you can't break out, but the system was built to favor those at the top. We've made a lot of progress in 250 years & that orange piece of shit has done so much damage in one year it's staggering. Throughout the day, I vacillate from a sick feeling in my gut to rage. It's exhausting.

patphil

(8,757 posts)
18. If this doesn't get fixed, those states are about to get hit with a huge dose of voter backlash.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 04:12 PM
Dec 29

The comment "all are republican controlled states" may not be true by this time next year.

Nasruddin

(1,194 posts)
19. No
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 04:18 PM
Dec 29

Either
- Kamala would be/have been worse
or
- Yay! This is what I voted for! Beat me harder!

COL Mustard

(8,021 posts)
24. Alabama will never vote Democratic again...
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 07:09 PM
Dec 29

Unless the Republicans go completely off the rails in Alabama voters' eyes. And I can't imagine what it would take to switch them back. It wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure.

BurnDoubt

(1,549 posts)
22. Anyone have a breakdown as to...
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 05:53 PM
Dec 29

how that translates to resources made available to KKKristi’s Hobby?
Or, maybe how many Bombs For Venezuela?
WINNING!!!!!

COL Mustard

(8,021 posts)
23. All are former members of the Confederacy....
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 07:06 PM
Dec 29

Except Utah and Wyoming, which weren't states then. Kind of makes me wonder which side they would have been on in 1861.

Wednesdays

(21,699 posts)
58. And ALL of the former Confederate states
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:41 AM
Dec 30

Except for Arkansas and Virginia.

Doubt it's a coincidence.

Envirogal

(279 posts)
25. Red state takers
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 07:18 PM
Dec 29

It’s amazing that Texas now has a surplus in revenue (from poaching California’s wealthy and their industries) yet is near the bottom of services it provides its citizens.

Easy to have a surplus when you don’t offer services to make the state run or help the poorest and working class.

LNM

(1,229 posts)
27. Simple. They hate Obama.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 07:27 PM
Dec 29

They can’t abide anything to do with him even if it screws their constituents.

calimary

(89,198 posts)
40. That's exactly what they'll try to do.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 03:28 AM
Dec 30

I hope our Dems find the cojones to fight this. Somehow.

Bengus81

(9,881 posts)
45. They can try as usual but there has been way to much light on the expiring subsidies
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 08:03 AM
Dec 30

They know exactly who's at fault,but they can bury their heads if they wish. I don't give a shit.

Golfnbrew

(78 posts)
38. And sadly...
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 02:53 AM
Dec 30

Some of us stuck in a red state, need not just the ACA, but the subsidies, to help us afford health insurance.

GoodRaisin

(10,759 posts)
39. Because Republicans are selfish and greedy
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 02:57 AM
Dec 30

is why they don’t want to take care of citizens.

calimary

(89,198 posts)
41. And I don't know how to spin this any other way.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 03:30 AM
Dec 30

C’mon, Dems! Get loud and nasty and unrelenting about this! Give America reason to stand with you!!!

CrispyQ

(40,728 posts)
68. They are a failure at marketing. It's maddening!
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 12:08 PM
Dec 30


Ken Martin is probably the most unmemorable DNC chair we've ever had! I associate his name with a plea for money & that is all.

Kablooie

(19,066 posts)
42. Problem is that they will all believe that the Democrats did this to them.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 03:32 AM
Dec 30

Republicans and Fox News will tell them Democrats are to blame and they won’t listen to anything else.

llmart

(17,368 posts)
44. What they all have in common...
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 07:49 AM
Dec 30

most of them are in the South. Or, most of them are also in the list of least educated populace. Or, most of them are in the list of poorest. See how all that goes hand in hand with red states in general?

mwb970

(12,098 posts)
48. I say tough noogies, red states.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 09:09 AM
Dec 30

Those people hate "Obamacare" and voted against their own interests in a truly spectacular manner. Now they are Finding Out. Am I supposed to feel sorry for them for bringing this on themselves? That's a heavy lift.

CrispyQ

(40,728 posts)
54. Blue state republicans should be asked,
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:16 AM
Dec 30

if you think republicans are so good at governance, why don't you move to a red state?

CapnSteve

(393 posts)
56. More fuel for the blue tsunami in Texas...
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:18 AM
Dec 30

Wow! 3.8 million. Add this to the Trump economy and his pedophile past (and present), Texas will turn blue in 2026.

No wonder so many Texas republicans are heading for the exits.

Blue Tsunami in 2026.
Impeachment in 2027.
In hospice, broken, and broke 2028.

Bluetus

(2,367 posts)
61. If?
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:03 AM
Dec 30

What are you talking about, "if"?

They have already lapsed. We are already through most of the enrollment period. Policies lapse tomorrow and there won't be any action on this for at least a month

RazorbackExpat

(909 posts)
66. I'm surprised Arkansas isn't on this list
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:39 AM
Dec 30

But the state was fucked over when Gov. Hutchinson gave the finger to ACA subsidies to the state for no goddam reason other than the fact that those subsidies helped people at the low end of the economic spectrum.

Just another reason why I hate the Republican Party

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