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kentuck

(115,170 posts)
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:40 AM 17 hrs ago

Finally, he has laid all his cards on the table.

Yes, he is a Russian asset.

For some, there has never been any doubt.

But, his threats against Greenland and the NATO alliance have removed all doubts.

All the countries of the world have denounced his intentions to invade Greenland, except one.

The newspapers in Moscow do not have one unkind word for Mr Trump. They applaud his "historical" actions. They stroke his ego and massage all the right places.

But to everyone else, he has gone insane.

He has shown over and over again that his loyalties are with Putin and Russia. From his very first day, when he kicked the American press out of the White House, and was photographed thru the window laughing and joking with Lavrov and the Russian Ambassador. From when he stood on the stage at Helsinki and tore down our own country in defense of Putin, that seemed to be the last straw. But then, he accuses Ukraine of being at fault for Russia invading them. He deserts the NATO alliance to side with Putin as he attempts to conquer Ukraine.

And now, he wants to finish the job for Putin. He is single-handedly tearing down the NATO alliance, the lifetime dream of Vladimir Putin. There can be no more denial. There can be no more excuses. Donald Trump is working for Russia. Putin could do no more damage to America if he was sitting in the White House.

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Finally, he has laid all his cards on the table. (Original Post) kentuck 17 hrs ago OP
Putin probably still calls Trump, Krasnov, like I do. gab13by13 17 hrs ago #1
gab... I wouldn't be suprised to find out that slightlv 15 hrs ago #15
I had that same thought. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #42
And once tsf is no longer useful to Putin? chicoescuela 16 hrs ago #2
I'm pretty sure they all feel unassailable until about five floors from the sidewalk. Harker 16 hrs ago #7
It does seem that way. chicoescuela 16 hrs ago #8
Maybe. Harker 15 hrs ago #11
Hopefully the same end as the others. And I hate feeling that way Callie1979 9 hrs ago #43
Can no one intercept Trump's calls with Putin and expose what's going on? Chasstev365 16 hrs ago #3
If only Hilary had felt free to elaborate on her puppet accusation Easterncedar 16 hrs ago #4
Puppet?! Puppet!! YOU'RE the puppet! Kid Berwyn 16 hrs ago #6
It's not " weaponizing" if it's a legitimate case questionseverything 13 hrs ago #36
Have to believe that EU/NATO is studying how they will defend themselves minus the US and maybe Turkey dutch777 16 hrs ago #5
NATO is strong even without the USA. OGBuzz 15 hrs ago #14
Well thought out statement, dutch... at least, IMO. slightlv 15 hrs ago #16
Dutch777, if you have a link on Turkey unwilling to defend NATO duckworth969 14 hrs ago #31
I don't. It's more an inkling that Turkey, really Erdogan, could go its own way. There have been disagreements.... dutch777 7 hrs ago #46
Fox News pushing the Putin agenda too. Doodley 16 hrs ago #9
treason... they are an evil force on this country LymphocyteLover 15 hrs ago #19
Add to this the US has been caught feeding Ukrainian intelligence to Russia MadameButterfly 15 hrs ago #10
just evil LymphocyteLover 15 hrs ago #20
I've Said This Since 2016. 😊 But One Nitpick: Putin Might .. ..... ColoringFool 15 hrs ago #12
Putin is a sick man and an evil kleptocrat.... Russia is a cruel shithole largely because of Putin's rule LymphocyteLover 15 hrs ago #22
Well stated PJMcK 15 hrs ago #13
Been saying it since 2015 Grins 15 hrs ago #17
Dumbo magats Clouds Passing 15 hrs ago #18
True words. spanone 15 hrs ago #21
He wants Rebl2 15 hrs ago #23
Brace for impact orangecrush 15 hrs ago #24
The real Manchurian candidate Picaro 14 hrs ago #25
try 1987... nt. SonOfNebanaube 3 hrs ago #53
Actually, he laid his remaining marbles on the table. Now he's lost them all. Martin68 14 hrs ago #26
Hillary tried to warn us. Some of us listened. llmart 14 hrs ago #27
Exactly, and... BurnDoubt 5 hrs ago #50
We made a HUGE mistake, not voting Hillary into the White House. A calimary 2 hrs ago #54
For anyone paying attention, you would know he was a Russian asset/stooge well before he was President. flashman13 14 hrs ago #28
Awesome! nt Exp 14 hrs ago #29
This message was self-deleted by its author duckworth969 14 hrs ago #30
9 repug Senators as of this morning won't stand with his Greenland take over. 634-5789 14 hrs ago #32
fetterman? rampartd 8 hrs ago #44
Not all. He's still got a run of Aces to play to end the midterms. ancianita 14 hrs ago #33
100% correct, Kentuck!! ElementaryPenguin 13 hrs ago #34
He's also creating a distraction for NATO countries so Putin could invade the Baltic nations Wicked Blue 13 hrs ago #35
opening a western front for nato rampartd 8 hrs ago #45
Will He Be Stopped Mr.Bee 13 hrs ago #37
Yup, Sooner or later all the unseemly details Joinfortmill 13 hrs ago #38
Trump says that Mblaze 12 hrs ago #39
If I was a member at MaraLago, I would stay away Captain Zero 4 hrs ago #51
France has "independent" nukes (home made, about 495 heads) Justice matters. 2 hrs ago #55
He's not playing chess. He no doubt, is helping Putin, he's also a selfish ahole who cares about nobody else. Nobody. themaguffin 12 hrs ago #40
Vladamir Putin is the Chairman of the Republican Party OMGWTF 11 hrs ago #41
I have felt that way for years LittleGirl 7 hrs ago #47
Absolutely 💯 debsy 6 hrs ago #48
Fulfilling Kruschev's Prophesy... BurnDoubt 5 hrs ago #49
Canada and esp Greenland would be a twofer popsdenver 4 hrs ago #52
Our pee resident IS bobalew 2 hrs ago #56

gab13by13

(31,380 posts)
1. Putin probably still calls Trump, Krasnov, like I do.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:50 AM
17 hrs ago

Everything Krasnov touches dies.

He has sided with Russia in the invasion of Ukraine, Ukraine is going to win. This will be the telling year for Putin, if he doesn't make major gains this year he is going to have to retreat in humiliation. Ukraine is going to win without any help from Krasnov.

Putin only has a war economy right now, his domestic economy is in the shitter. He can't bring back the troops from Ukraine, he has to place to put them in Russia, no jobs.

slightlv

(7,477 posts)
15. gab... I wouldn't be suprised to find out that
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:28 AM
15 hrs ago

many of our tax dollars are surreptitiously finding their way into Russia to prop up Putin...

chicoescuela

(2,677 posts)
2. And once tsf is no longer useful to Putin?
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:54 AM
16 hrs ago

Out comes all the kompromat and the fall out of a tenth floor window.
The dumbass doesn’t realize that either.

Harker

(17,490 posts)
7. I'm pretty sure they all feel unassailable until about five floors from the sidewalk.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:46 AM
16 hrs ago

Callie1979

(1,182 posts)
43. Hopefully the same end as the others. And I hate feeling that way
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:13 PM
9 hrs ago

I would've never said such a thing about George Bush. Or Reagan Or HW Bush. OR McCain.
But none of them were openly backing our enemies as traitors do

Easterncedar

(5,622 posts)
4. If only Hilary had felt free to elaborate on her puppet accusation
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:14 AM
16 hrs ago

I am sure as Sec of State she knew more than she felt she could say. He should have been prosecuted. If only the Dems had weaponized the DoJ as they were accused of doing. They should have.

dutch777

(4,938 posts)
5. Have to believe that EU/NATO is studying how they will defend themselves minus the US and maybe Turkey
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:27 AM
16 hrs ago

The writing is on the wall whether over a political issue like Greenland or just that Trump walks us away unilaterally, the fact that they cannot count on us being there when they need us vs. Russia is clear. Not a question of if, just when. Their hard internal issues are that many of their economies are not in great shape, hard tradeoffs between social programs and military spending will have to be made (or taxes increased) and their populations are really not interested in being part of bigger and truly capable militaries which means very unpopular mandatory drafts. Having served in Germany in my army days in the late 70s, while they had a much bigger military force (2500 tanks vs. now 350; 450,000 troops vs. now maybe 200,000), the majority were very poorly motivated draftees just doing their two years and then gone. Certainly actually defending their homeland against immediate aggression would stiffen their resolve but if your training has been nonchalant and you have no serious warfighting experience in the ranks and officer corps, its a big lift to be a capable force overnight. Their other major problem is that the US has the only comprehensive intelligence network-- the satellites, eavesdropping and large scale analysis capability that has the experience in depth as well. Must be a lot of hard conversations and hand wringing going on behind closed doors in the EU.

OGBuzz

(26 posts)
14. NATO is strong even without the USA.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:16 AM
15 hrs ago

Europe is fully armed and nuclear capable. Putin bit off more than he can chew with Ukraine and is already conscripting men well over the conscription age of 18-30. Putin is a POS but I don't think he is a suicidal POS. Europe will need to maintain the NATO alliance even without America.

NATO minus the United States fields approximately:
▪️2.1 to 2.3 million Active-Duty Personnel
▪️1.7 to 1.9 million Reserves
▪️3.8 to 4.1 million Total Personnel.

duckworth969

(1,259 posts)
31. Dutch777, if you have a link on Turkey unwilling to defend NATO
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:35 AM
14 hrs ago

Would appreciate a share 👍🏻

dutch777

(4,938 posts)
46. I don't. It's more an inkling that Turkey, really Erdogan, could go its own way. There have been disagreements....
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 06:13 PM
7 hrs ago

between the EU and Erdogan's Turkey on substantive matters economic, political and military over the last decade that opens the strength of relationship to some question in my mind. At the end of the day, Turkey has much more economic interdependency with the EU than Russia and that may be an insurance policy to Turkey's support to NATO. My worry with Turkey, Hungary and even Spain is that for various different reasons at different times they row in their own direction and at their own pace. In matters of political discussion, that is inconvenient but fine. In a military confrontation, arriving late to the matter can be terribly consequential.

MadameButterfly

(3,802 posts)
10. Add to this the US has been caught feeding Ukrainian intelligence to Russia
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:07 AM
15 hrs ago

so we are actually committing espionage against an ally for Putin's benefit.

ColoringFool

(324 posts)
12. I've Said This Since 2016. 😊 But One Nitpick: Putin Might .. .....
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:12 AM
15 hrs ago

Actually do LESS harm as POTUS!

That is, were Putin made our leader, he would probably want a STRONG economy! An undestroyed White House! Maybe restore the booze trade with Canada!

😁😁😁😁😁

LymphocyteLover

(9,442 posts)
22. Putin is a sick man and an evil kleptocrat.... Russia is a cruel shithole largely because of Putin's rule
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:45 AM
15 hrs ago

PJMcK

(24,817 posts)
13. Well stated
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:12 AM
15 hrs ago

One quibble, though. Netanyahu sides with Trump. The rest of the world does not.

Grins

(9,284 posts)
17. Been saying it since 2015
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:32 AM
15 hrs ago

Over and over it was right in front of everyone's eyes. And the decent media DID NOTHING!

Picaro

(2,342 posts)
25. The real Manchurian candidate
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:58 AM
14 hrs ago

Been a few decades since I’ve watched the movie, but Trump has always been the Manchurian candidate.

But that was a movie and this is brutally real.

He is clearly doing Putin’s bidding. Has been since at least 2015.

Amazing that our illustrious media (the orgs that aren’t already fully captured) cannot discern a very obvious pattern of behavior.

llmart

(17,365 posts)
27. Hillary tried to warn us. Some of us listened.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:09 AM
14 hrs ago

The smart ones did. She was Secretary of State and knew more about what was going on behind the scenes than the orange monster could ever know. Because of that, Putin was afraid she would win so he did all he could to get Fat Hitler in office.

The gullible ones in our country just couldn't stand the thought of a woman being smarter and more experienced than a man.

calimary

(89,188 posts)
54. We made a HUGE mistake, not voting Hillary into the White House. A
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:18 PM
2 hrs ago

HUGE mistake. I’m still upset about it.

She would have been GREAT. Absolutely OUTSTANDING.

And instead, we got the Orange Disaster.

flashman13

(2,113 posts)
28. For anyone paying attention, you would know he was a Russian asset/stooge well before he was President.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:22 AM
14 hrs ago

They bailed him out financially on several occasions. I don't have any doubt that Epstein was also a Russian asset. They have all the pedo dirt on Trump as well from that source.

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wicked Blue

(8,535 posts)
35. He's also creating a distraction for NATO countries so Putin could invade the Baltic nations
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:20 PM
13 hrs ago

At least that is my considered opinion. What could be more convenient for Putzin than to have the major European powers deploy military personnel and equipment to defend Greenland? This would slow down NATO's rapid response plan to protect Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania from being quickly overrun by Ruzzia.

I saw in the news from Estonia yesterday that they will send no more than a handful of personnel to Greenland for the planned European military exercises. This tells me they feel the need to keep their defense forces at home in case of an invasion.

rampartd

(3,958 posts)
45. opening a western front for nato
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:58 PM
8 hrs ago

weakens the east.

does anyone still doubt whose side we are on?

Joinfortmill

(20,233 posts)
38. Yup, Sooner or later all the unseemly details
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:46 PM
13 hrs ago

will emerge. I hope he's still alive to feel the shame. His name will become a curse.

Mblaze

(929 posts)
39. Trump says that
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:07 PM
12 hrs ago

If Greenland isn't given to America, Russia or China would take it over. That is an admission that Trump would not join with the rest of NATO to protect Greenland in the unlikely event that China or Russia would attack that country.

Putin has Trump in his back pocket.

Captain Zero

(8,766 posts)
51. If I was a member at MaraLago, I would stay away
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:31 PM
4 hrs ago

From the club if he invades Greenland.
Things could get surgical quickly.

Justice matters.

(9,468 posts)
55. France has "independent" nukes (home made, about 495 heads)
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:39 PM
2 hrs ago

France is a member of NATO (signatory of the Article 5 clause by adhesion).

Both Russia and China are well aware. It's called "a MAD" deterent...

The fearmongering lie (called Fascist propaganda) that Russia and China would take over Greenland is just that: Fascistic fearmongering propaganda to distract from the Trump-Epstein files.

Of course, they deny being Nazis using Nazi methods...


themaguffin

(4,943 posts)
40. He's not playing chess. He no doubt, is helping Putin, he's also a selfish ahole who cares about nobody else. Nobody.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:18 PM
12 hrs ago

LittleGirl

(8,958 posts)
47. I have felt that way for years
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 06:35 PM
7 hrs ago

Just his actions show his favoritism to Vlad.
It’s disgusting so many were fooled.

His wife, Epstein and the whole list of suicides/hits on people…what is it going to take?

Are we there yet? Enough is enough.

popsdenver

(1,701 posts)
52. Canada and esp Greenland would be a twofer
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:32 PM
4 hrs ago

Pleasing the Trump CABAL of Republican Oligarchs and Politicians.........

AND most of all

Pleasing Putin immensely.......Everyone is missing that Putin wants them both, in the worst way, and later on Alaska.....

So anything that Trump does, he pleases both of his masters: 2025 Group AND Putin

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